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[vapourminer]

Da fuck! What country are you in?!?? Never saw capital gains taxed so fucking high. That percentage is ridiculous even for regular salary income FFS!

50% income tax, give or take depending. 25% sales tax. Hidden taxes on everytyhing, not sure how much but not less than 50%. In total, 80-90% taxation.

Which is why there is no fucking way I will get off with ONLY 20% when they get around to bitcoin. States always want More.

Denmark, by the way.

50% ?? wtf.

makes that check i wrote to the irs a lot less painful.

much as i hate taxes and the fact i have no say in its distribution, at least i only pay if i made profit. capitol gains for stuff over a year old is 15%, of course the short term stuff is worse and varies with income and such (USA).

EDIT: of course we tax everything in site in addition to that so the actual figure is higher. sales tax varies per state and "built in" taxes can be pretty high.. cigarettes and gas in particular get taxed at a fairly high rate. so total tax paid varies considerably depending on how you count it.

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Whose is this one? Roach?

Is it because all their relatives died suddenly having once recovered of cytokine storm and pneumonia and were incinerated without ceremonies and dumped without fanfare, their numbers not even added to a total on a list somewhere?

I have a Chinese friend who has a sister and she keeps staring at me but I am married 😂

[Wekkel]

I think BTC is going to rise.

The legendary rpietila.

More evidence that this wil be ‘The One’....

[ChuckBuck]

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I don't think we can see that

Damned! Can't find anything like that, it's unexpected  
Need some help, someone who knows how to quote a smaller image like BitcoinGirl.Club did? I feel I take up a lot of space with image quotes, it's bad  

I have a Chinese friend who has a sister and she keeps staring at me but I am married 😂

Who cares if you're married or not? What she cares about is what you have there, because you are there

[Ibian]

I'm just gonna leave this here. https://whnt.com/news/proposed-bill-would-require-men-in-alabama-to-get-vasectomy/

Link doesn't seem to work for IPs outside the US, but it speaks for itself anyway. Cliffnotes from what I was told, men over 50 or who has 3 kids would be required to become infertile via surgery if this passes.

[mindrust]

Personal Income Tax Rates

Country	Tax Rate
Sweden	57.20
Japan	55.95
Denmark	55.80
Netherlands	51.75
Portugal	48.00
Australia	45.00
China	45.00
France	45.00
Germany	45.00
Greece	45.00
South Africa	45.00
Spain	45.00
United Kingdom	45.00
Italy	43.00
South Korea	42.00
Switzerland	40.00
United States	37.00
India	35.88
Argentina	35.00
Mexico	35.00
Turkey	35.00
Canada	33.00
Indonesia	30.00
Brazil	27.50
Singapore	22.00
Russia	13.00

USA looks like a bargain compared to  the others. The only dealbreaker is, you get taxed twice if your income is outside of the US. I don't know if there are other countries doing this.

[vapourminer]

The real bitch of a problem in all this is to find a place where people speak proper english.

that rules out the USA for you then (not that i think thats on your list btw).

[Ibian]

The real bitch of a problem in all this is to find a place where people speak proper english.

that rules out the USA for you then (not that i think thats on your list btw).

Honestly Romania is looking better and better. Communism is illegal, you can live in a castle cheaper than a danish apartment, beautiful girls and everything is cheap, and their language appears to be reasonable to learn, and they speak decent to good english anyway. Couple months till my eastern europe tour, just hope corona-chan doesn't get all the borders closed before then.

[JSRAW]

@ChuckBuck

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[JSRAW]

I have a Chinese friend who has a sister and she keeps staring at me but I am married 😂

Don't get too cocky..

May be she hates brown sugar...

[JimboToronto]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

The battle for $10k rages on. Now we're about halfway back after Wednesday's big dip... currently $9757USD/$12935CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

We're a month away from springtime (northern hemisphere) and the halving is only a few weeks after that. In the meantime, we can enjoy the show with contented anticipation.

Go Bitcoin go.

In any case, it was all acquired in 2012, so it's a few years before the crime was committed, and should not have been seized.

LOL

In most many places the cops simply take everything they find and don't report it. This includes cash, electronics, jewelry, personal items, anything the individual officers might fancy for themselves. There is no accountability.

Then later the official part begins where they seize bank accounts, real estate, automobiles, etc. This is where good lawyers might block or reverse the seizures. The onus is generally on the accused to prove the assets were acquired through legal channels.

The cops must be fuming over this one.    

[bitserve]

Then later the official part begins where they seize bank accounts, real estate, automobiles, etc. This is where good lawyers might block or reverse the seizures. The onus is generally on the accused to prove the assets were acquired through legal channels.

Yup, that's worldwide practise. And since he probably bought it with CASH and he is now a known convicted "drug" seller he will have a VERY hard time proving the money he used to buy those Bitcoins did come from legal "channels" and the source was "clean" money... hence the "fishing rod" accident (lol).

[goldkingcoiner]

Good morning Bitcoinland.

The battle for $10k rages on. Now we're about halfway back after Wednesday's big dip... currently $9757USD/$12935CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

We're a month away from springtime (northern hemisphere) and the halving is only a few weeks after that. In the meantime, we can enjoy the show with contented anticipation.

Go Bitcoin go.

Can't make heads or tails of the current market. We are either going up again after bouncing off the current support or we are dropping to 9000. We should see on the 23rd or 24th of this month a more clear direction. Either way, market is still too overbought for longing.

In any case, it was all acquired in 2012, so it's a few years before the crime was committed, and should not have been seized.

Then later the official part begins where they seize bank accounts, real estate, automobiles, etc. This is where good lawyers might block or reverse the seizures. The onus is generally on the accused to prove the assets were acquired through legal channels.

Yup, that's worldwide practise. And since he probably bought it with CASH and he is now a known convicted "drug" seller he will have a VERY hard time proving the money he used to buy those Bitcoins did come from legal "channels" and the source was "clean" money... hence the "fishing rod" accident.

This is why Bitcoin is so awesome. It creates a truly free market. And if people learn better OPSEC, the money will always be theirs.

[pressnegl]

Personal Income Tax Rates

Country	Tax Rate
Sweden	57.20
Japan	55.95
Denmark	55.80
Netherlands	51.75
Portugal	48.00
Australia	45.00
China	45.00
France	45.00
Germany	45.00
Greece	45.00
South Africa	45.00
Spain	45.00
United Kingdom	45.00
Italy	43.00
South Korea	42.00
Switzerland	40.00
United States	37.00
India	35.88
Argentina	35.00
Mexico	35.00
Turkey	35.00
Canada	33.00
Indonesia	30.00
Brazil	27.50
Singapore	22.00
Russia	13.00

USA looks like a bargain compared to  the others. The only dealbreaker is, you get taxed twice if your income is outside of the US. I don't know if there are other countries doing this.

I find taxes that high seem unreasonably high. It's a shame to pay the tax twice, it's a robbery!

[xhomerx10]

The real bitch of a problem in all this is to find a place where people speak proper english.

that rules out the USA for you then (not that i think thats on your list btw).

Honestly Romania is looking better and better. Communism is illegal, you can live in a castle cheaper than a danish apartment, beautiful girls and everything is cheap, and their language appears to be reasonable to learn, and they speak decent to good english anyway. Couple months till my eastern europe tour, just hope corona-chan doesn't get all the borders closed before then.

 All true ...but the bureaucracy is killer; a holdover from the communist era.  You need papers and papers need translations, legalization, (sometimes) superlegalization, notorization and stamps but you cant pay for the stamps at the place you get the stamp, you have to pay somewhere else where you are issued a receipt... you ask a question and they are happy to oblige but when you get to the office you were told had what you need, you find out that the helpful person didnt know what they were talking about OR maybe they did and the person at the office you've arrived at just sucks at their job... and everything happens a little slower than you'd expect and then some.

[bitserve]

Personal Income Tax Rates

Country	Tax Rate
Sweden	57.20
Japan	55.95
Denmark	55.80
Netherlands	51.75
Portugal	48.00
Australia	45.00
China	45.00
France	45.00
Germany	45.00
Greece	45.00
South Africa	45.00
Spain	45.00
United Kingdom	45.00
Italy	43.00
South Korea	42.00
Switzerland	40.00
United States	37.00
India	35.88
Argentina	35.00
Mexico	35.00
Turkey	35.00
Canada	33.00
Indonesia	30.00
Brazil	27.50
Singapore	22.00
Russia	13.00

USA looks like a bargain compared to  the others. The only dealbreaker is, you get taxed twice if your income is outside of the US. I don't know if there are other countries doing this.

Those are regular income taxes, not capital gains which is what should apply to Bitcoin profits. Also, max rate doesn't mean anything. It is way more important to check the corresponding tax for each income bracket. I.e. In Spain you need to earn a lot to reach that 45%. In Denmark it seems you reach the max pretty easily.

[nutildah]

I'm just gonna leave this here. https://whnt.com/news/proposed-bill-would-require-men-in-alabama-to-get-vasectomy/

Link doesn't seem to work for IPs outside the US, but it speaks for itself anyway. Cliffnotes from what I was told, men over 50 or who has 3 kids would be required to become infertile via surgery if this passes.

However poorly conceived, its a joke.

An Alabama lawmaker fed up with her colleagues' attempts to outlaw abortion has filed legislation to require all men over 50 to get vasectomies.

Democratic Rep. Rolanda Hollis said Friday that she introduced the bill to send "the message that men should not be legislating what women do with their bodies."

https://abc7news.com/5944620/

It would be funny if it passed, however, I don't think that it will.

[jojo69]

typical fauxism taken out of context


people who restrict their news intake to one faction frequently fall for these

[VB1001]

https://twitter.com/TradeSatoshi/status/1230509341142220800

[DeathAngel]

RIP TradeSatoshi, wonder why they’re closing down. I don’t see any reason how an exchange can go bust unless they’ve had a really bad hack.