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March 05, 2020, 12:02:05 PM

Little fun fact on Chinese hospitals, they're fucking garbage.

I worked with some Chinese investors, one who owned two hospitals back in china, had a coworker visit and see them, he could not believe how shitty they were. Like weirdly shitty tiled dirty looking hotels almost. He said don't get fucking sick in china and if you do hope you can make it to the west.

I can’t easily find it on youtube but there is a video of hospital staff casually riding a smoking two stroke motorcycle down the hospital corridor to park it in their office.  

If you are an expat in China, you go to the expat hospital.  Which isn’t a hospital, it’s more like a clinic in Shanghai run by Western trained Chinese doctors.  But it’s all they got.  Heaven help you if you get sick in a rural area.  They will probably try to give you pangolin tea.  
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March 05, 2020, 12:41:30 PM

I'm absolutely ecstatically overwhelmed, every time I get tax returns and flip them over to BTC.

Once again I advised my accountant to buy BTC, "time is running out" I said.
"I will" he replied, for the first time ever. Shocked

Touche, got him by the balls, I'll just have to pay him in advance in BTC for this year.
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Residents of urban areas are not provided with free healthcare, and must either pay for treatment or purchase health insurance.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_China

https://www.internations.org/go/moving-to-china/healthcare

"China does have free public healthcare which is under the country’s social insurance plan. The healthcare system provides basic coverage for the majority of the native population and, in most cases, expats as well. However, it will depend on the region you reside in. As some areas don’t require their foreign residents to support the local healthcare system by paying the appropriate taxes, those residents will not be covered by public healthcare."  

These sources appear to be in conflict as slightly more people live in urban areas than not. One of them seems incorrect and Im not flying to Wuhan to find out.  Cheesy

Either way, I would still say that even if Wikipedia is the correct source, that free healthcare is available to all, bc everyone in an urban area is free to move out to the suburbs or country to get free healthcare.  Cheesy





Except you aren’t, because you cant change suburbs in China without a government permit, called a Hukou.  

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hukou



Good find. I stand corrected. Although Im sure people can and do get permits and move, it never occurred to me they couldn't live where they wanted if they could afford it.

Seems I overestimated what an an authoritarian shithole it really is. LOL, nice goin commies!  Roll Eyes Shit like this is why Bernie got rekt by an old man who barely knows where he is when he is tired. Capitalism beats central planning based systems like communism.

Well Ill let V8s go on a fact finding mission and investigate who is correct, wikipedia or  internations.org

Perhaps I got bad info from what looked to be a decent source.

Doesn't change the crux of my Diamond Princess argument in the slightest.

Nitpicking imo is merely a time wasting strategy to fill the void where good arguments are lacking. This statement is not directed at you HM. You presented an interesting fact that I'm happy to learn.

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March 05, 2020, 01:05:09 PM

If you're not on the verge of death, there's no need to go to a hospital.

Fix a broken bone or whatever...

Most of the time going to the hospital is worse for you than staying home and taking care of yourself.

wait till youre a boomer with a 15 page med list, 14 specialist MDs, a list of conditions and operations, some so cutting edge that they have been published.

without regular labs and MD visits.. well thats life support for some of us.

@Ibian, youre welcome.  well no, thats a lie.

Nah, my family tends to treat everything naturally. Most family members die around 100. Medical doctors are for when you're ready to die. Or you're in an accident.

I've never had an aspirin in my life.

Hospitals are not as sterile as they would have you believe. Go there if you want to catch Coronavirus.
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March 05, 2020, 01:19:39 PM

I think it's time we called in the real Guardians. These fakes are toast.



They really do think they are superheros. Always talking about ammunition, toolboxes, tool belts and tool kits.  Roll Eyes I suppose to elites looking for easy money they are heroes.
ok i see you're interested in elites, christine lagard and making money. Watch this video. If you can break the code you'lll probably be rich. She is talking about numerology. She is giving something only a minority of elites can decode watch https://youtu.be/QYmViPTndxw
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If you're not on the verge of death, there's no need to go to a hospital.

Fix a broken bone or whatever...

Most of the time going to the hospital is worse for you than staying home and taking care of yourself.

wait till youre a boomer with a 15 page med list, 14 specialist MDs, a list of conditions and operations, some so cutting edge that they have been published.

without regular labs and MD visits.. well thats life support for some of us.

@Ibian, youre welcome.  well no, thats a lie.

Nah, my family tends to treat everything naturally. Most family members die around 100. Medical doctors are for when you're ready to die. Or you're in an accident.

I've never had an aspirin in my life.

Hospitals are not as sterile as they would have you believe. Go there if you want to catch Coronavirus.
Glad to see you're back and posting here, it didn't seem too long ago you were on the run and using a bad cable on the trezor.

My anxiety about missing something with the wife and kids keeps us going for check ups, i can't imagine how id feel if we missed something and it evolved into something devastating regarding the wife or kids.

We made it out. I took some video while on the run.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OovkeOuZsqU
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March 05, 2020, 01:35:45 PM

I'm absolutely ecstatically overwhelmed, every time I get tax returns and flip them over to BTC.

Once again I advised my accountant to buy BTC, "time is running out" I said.
"I will" he replied, for the first time ever. Shocked

Touche, got him by the balls, I'll just have to pay him in advance in BTC for this year.
I have been paying to have my taxes done in Bitcoin for a few years now, i quickly rebuy what i spent though.

Of course.
But I wasn't implying that I was gonna fuck him somehow, quite the opposite. Cool

Good for your accountant, best for you.
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March 05, 2020, 02:29:11 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland. Greetings to all Wall Observers



(All Virus Observers too)

Nice to see we're back over $9k again... currently $9095USD/$12200CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

Onward and upward!

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Coronavirus may be getting weaker due to evolutionary pressure - aggressive quarantining of patients who become very sick

https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463?searchresult=1

This evolutionary pressure has been shown in the past, inadvertently in reverse.  

The 'Spanish Flu' (an H1N1 virus) broke out during WWI.  At that time soldiers with lesser symptoms stayed on post, the more serious ones were sent home on crowded ships and trains.  This probably had the effect of selecting a worse form of the virus to be spread around the world.  Many more millions of people were killed by this 'flu' than the war itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_flu

"In civilian life, natural selection favors a mild strain. Those who get very ill stay home, and those mildly ill continue with their lives, preferentially spreading the mild strain. In the trenches, natural selection was reversed. Soldiers with a mild strain stayed where they were, while the severely ill were sent on crowded trains to crowded field hospitals, spreading the deadlier virus."

Quarantining all serious cases should have the opposite effect, so this does make sense.  It is quite true that seriously fatal strains tend to kill their carriers and milder strains do not, and therefore survive in the population more easily.  

Let's hope this is how it plays out.  I know it'll disappoint the eugenics fans here, but hey, I am not much of a fan of mass deaths as they tend to get close to home. I really would rather it turned out to have all been 'not that bad in the end'.
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March 05, 2020, 02:50:26 PM

Hey Jimbo

how is spring training going?
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March 05, 2020, 02:53:35 PM

I hope we cross $ 10k, or else it’s completely boring, I want to meet halving in a good mood Roll Eyes
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If any of you guys talking about China want to know what's really been going there for the last ten years, check out this short summary video. It's by an American fluent in Mandarin who lived over there during that time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ed4ryYokLzU
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https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-who-director-generals-comments-that-3-4-of-reported-covid-19-cases-have-died-globally/


MARCH 4, 2020
expert reaction to WHO Director-General’s comments that 3.4% of reported COVID-19 cases have died globally

Prof Mark Woolhouse, Professor of Infectious Disease Epidemiology, University of Edinburgh, said:

"The WHO is using the official figure for confirmed cases as the denominator, and this gives the estimate of 3.4%.  But if a significant number of mild cases have been missed or not reported then this estimate is too high.  Though there is disagreement about this, some studies have suggested that it is approximately 10 times too high.  Shocked This would bring the death rate in line with some strains of influenza  Cool. "



Prof Christl Donnelly, University of Oxford, and WHO Collaborating Centre for Infectious Disease Modelling, Imperial College London, said:

"Our analyses have included estimates of the case fatality ratio, but also the infection fatality ratio. The infection fatality ratio is the proportion of infections (including those with no symptoms or mild symptoms) that die of the disease.  Our estimate for this is 1%. This is lower than the observed 3.4% figure because asymptomatic and mildly symptomatic cases are included in the denominator.”

If you wanted some guys with fancy degrees who wear white coats to tell you what I pretty much already told you, well there it is. COVBULL-19 is not nearly as deadly as all the hype and hysteria of money printers would lead you to believe.


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March 05, 2020, 03:23:30 PM

If you're not on the verge of death, there's no need to go to a hospital.

Fix a broken bone or whatever...

Most of the time going to the hospital is worse for you than staying home and taking care of yourself.

wait till youre a boomer with a 15 page med list, 14 specialist MDs, a list of conditions and operations, some so cutting edge that they have been published.

without regular labs and MD visits.. well thats life support for some of us.

@Ibian, youre welcome.  well no, thats a lie.




No way I would burden myself, my insurance company, and by proxy, every other person's premiums, or society in general if I had those kind of problems. I'll just have to let life (or death) run it's course when I get that far gone. You know, take it like a man, instead of living on life support.




Boomers have been fucking over everyone else for more than 50 years.  Why stop now.  
I've been gone six months or so from the thread and you're still mr.millenial over here, what a shame.
So do you have any arguments? Have, in fact, boomers NOT been fucking over everyone for more than 50 years? What is your position on this matter?
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March 05, 2020, 03:29:54 PM

I hope we cross $ 10k, or else it’s completely boring, I want to meet halving in a good mood Roll Eyes

I think we’ll be in the $10,000 - $12,500 range as we get to the halving. We’ll probably see a dump post halving which is what tends to happen before another pump.

Disclaimer: I have no fucking clue what I’m talking about most of the time. This is not investment advice. Do your own research.
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https://www.longhash.com/en/news/3279/Why-South-Korea's-Top-Crypto-Exchanges-are-Delisting-Coins-En-Masse

Very bullish. Clean out the trash.
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March 05, 2020, 03:35:44 PM

I hope we cross $ 10k, or else it’s completely boring, I want to meet halving in a good mood Roll Eyes

I think we’ll be in the $10,000 - $12,500 range as we get to the halving. We’ll probably see a dump post halving which is what tends to happen before another pump.

Disclaimer: I have no fucking clue what I’m talking about most of the time. This is not investment advice. Do your own research.

Im thinkin like 14k. But 12.5 works too.
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March 05, 2020, 03:38:09 PM

I'll just leave this here...

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So at first i rejoiced, it seemed that lambie had defeated JJG and all was well.

But it seems increasingly that our heroic lambie sacrificed himself in the effort, perhaps he was a little careless with the PPE, or maybe in the heat of battle it was inevitable, but sadly our lambie appears to have been infected with the wordy virus.

A sad day.
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