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May 30, 2020, 07:54:29 PM

Fantastic launch, feels good to see some positivity and team achievement. Docking in the morning.
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May 30, 2020, 08:00:44 PM
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Am I alone in not giving a fuck about Musk’s launch?

Sorry not sorry!
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I see a country descending into open rebellion against its oppressive, unjust, inequitable Police State.

There is no greater symbolism of the endless systemic oppression than an agent of the state kneeling on a totally incapacitated dying man in the street.

I don't see this ending until vast swathes of the dystopian police state apparatus, ideology and funding empires are dismantled and dumped in the dustbin of history. They cannot be reformed peacefully so they will only go violently.

The people have finally woken up and The People always get the final say in matters of the nature of the state. Look it up, it's in the Constitution. There's 40 million unemployed Americans and probably tens of millions more disaffected enough to take to the streets. At most the US armed state agencies could rally perhaps a few million. In the end its just math.

Ultimately its about freedom.

When I was a kid, the police were respected members of the community, the boys in blue. They walked a beat and knew everyone by name and everyone knew them by name. We didn't fear and hate them. We respected and appreciated them.

Somewhere along the way everything changed. They switched from friendly blue to intimidating black. They started hiding their faces. They separated themselves from society. They developed an adversarial "us against them" stance and started treating the community (their bosses) as the enemy. They hid behind the anonymity of their uniforms and refused to give their names. They abdicated all personal responsibility.

What is long overdue is individual identification of all police officers. It should be mandatory for all police officers (except those on active undercover duty) be identifiable. Their names and badge numbers should be clearly displayed on the fronts and backs of all uniforms. They should also be displayed on the outside of their upper arms and thighs, so would be no doubt about the personal identity of all officers even if camera angles were obscured.

This would be an obvious first step toward re-integrating the police into decent society. Hiring practices must also be re-evaluated. As long as police officers are social pariahs, only social misfits choose to become police officers. Most normal people don't choose a career that leads to ostracism unless they are already outsiders, hence the bullied-in-the-schoolyard-and-seeking-revenge syndrome seen in so many of today's police departments. Better psychological testing must be used to weed out the violent, sadistic, authority-oriented applicants.

It's perhaps not as bad in Toronto as in most big American cities, and in fact it's getting much better since the confrontations between the public and the police during the 2010 G-20 meetings. More individual officers are making an attempt to reintegrate themselves and the evil Police Association is slowly losing it's power. It still has a long way to go though. There are still individual officers who hide behind their badges and think they're better than the law.  

Some are simply arrogant doofuses like "Officer Bubbles":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMTm3QRwEc

Bubbles did not even lose his job.

They seem to forget who's the employee and who's the employer.

America  calls itself "The Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave". You can ask George Floyd's family about freedom, and there's nothing brave about 4 fully armed police officers murdering a handcuffed, unarmed man over a $20 non-violent crime.

The time has come to start treating police officers personally, as individual men and women, not as faceless uniform wearers, and it is time for police officers to start realizing they are members of the human race and start acting like it.

It would be best if they/we could affect this change peacefully. If not it seems like civil war is close, the people versus the state. It would be a very bloody war indeed.


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Am I alone in not giving a fuck about Musk’s launch?

Sorry not sorry!

Maybe you are not alone but I do care. It's not "Musk's launch", it's SpaceX, NASA, and thousands of people worldwide who have worked nearly a decade to get to this point, in spite of all the roadblocks, petty political infighting, crisis after crisis and an ever growing contingent of anti-intellectualism and isolation. It's a pretty big deal in my opinion and is a win for humanity.
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Somewhere along the way everything changed. They switched from friendly blue to intimidating black. They started hiding their faces. They separated themselves from society. They developed an adversarial "us against them" stance and started treating the community (their bosses) as the enemy. They hid behind the anonymity of their uniforms and refused to give their names. They abdicated all personal responsibility.

A large part of this coincides with the militarization of the police. Flooding the forces with surplus military equipment, hiring direct from the military (and assuming military training with no decompression can substitute for civilian police training), shifting patrols so cops don't patrol their own neighborhoods, not hiring out of those neighborhoods, the various "war on XX" initiatives all promote that us vs. them mentality.

https://fee.org/articles/the-militarization-of-americas-police-a-brief-history
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May 30, 2020, 08:27:16 PM

Am I alone in not giving a fuck about Musk’s launch?

Sorry not sorry!

Nope.
Also, whenever i think of a manned space vehicle i have to think about the challenger space shuttle accident. This event made me question the whole space thing, i still don't see much sense in this space travelling. I'm ok with satellites, though.
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Wouldn't it be better to compare 2012, 2016 and 2020?
Those are the years with halvings.

That would end up showing different information..  Wink   different from what Phil_S (the chart creator) apparently wants to show in contrast to what Arriemoller (the chart viewer) would like to see.  Tongue Tongue



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Wouldn't it be better to compare 2012, 2016 and 2020?
Those are the years with halvings.

That would end up showing different information..  Wink   different from what Phil_S (the chart creator) apparently wants to show in contrast to what Arriemoller (the chart viewer) would like to see.  Tongue Tongue



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May 30, 2020, 08:40:53 PM
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Time to consolidate those inputs.  Mempool currently clearing 1 sat/byte  


Roll Eyes When 0.0001 is worth something in fiat terms you'll be glad you hadn't. Fees will be going down proportionately in btc terms.

I am regretting some of my earlier consolidations, and I wished that I would have kept some of my addresses separated.... sometimes some of us are "too smart" for our own good.   Cry Cry Cry
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Somewhere along the way everything changed. They switched from friendly blue to intimidating black. They started hiding their faces. They separated themselves from society. They developed an adversarial "us against them" stance and started treating the community (their bosses) as the enemy. They hid behind the anonymity of their uniforms and refused to give their names. They abdicated all personal responsibility.

A large part of this coincides with the militarization of the police. Flooding the forces with surplus military equipment, hiring direct from the military (and assuming military training with no decompression can substitute for civilian police training), shifting patrols so cops don't patrol their own neighborhoods, not hiring out of those neighborhoods, the various "war on XX" initiatives all promote that us vs. them mentality.

https://fee.org/articles/the-militarization-of-americas-police-a-brief-history

That's exactly what I was talking about... militarization.

If it does turn into a complete civil war, it will be the state that drew first blood.

It's not really principally a war between the public and the police. It's a war between the government and the people.

That's what makes the second amendment to the constitution of the USA so meaningless in the 21st century. What good are the arms American citizens are allowed to bear compared to military weapons? Bring a knife to a gunfight? Bring a gun to a missile fight?
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May 30, 2020, 08:53:40 PM

OK, here's what I got with

4 year shift

16x price shift



Can't say I see any short-term similarities, but long-term trend is here.

Your rationale for a 16x would be a doubling every year?

That doubling every year would not be sustainable, would it, even though it looks o.k. in this two year snap shot (x2)?
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Somewhere along the way everything changed. They switched from friendly blue to intimidating black. They started hiding their faces. They separated themselves from society. They developed an adversarial "us against them" stance and started treating the community (their bosses) as the enemy. They hid behind the anonymity of their uniforms and refused to give their names. They abdicated all personal responsibility.

A large part of this coincides with the militarization of the police. Flooding the forces with surplus military equipment, hiring direct from the military (and assuming military training with no decompression can substitute for civilian police training), shifting patrols so cops don't patrol their own neighborhoods, not hiring out of those neighborhoods, the various "war on XX" initiatives all promote that us vs. them mentality.

https://fee.org/articles/the-militarization-of-americas-police-a-brief-history

That's exactly what I was talking about... militarization.

If it does turn into a complete civil war, it will be the state that drew first blood.

It's not really principally a war between the public and the police. It's a war between the government and the people.

That's what makes the second amendment to the constitution of the USA so meaningless in the 21st century. What good are the arms American citizens are allowed to bear compared to military weapons? Bring a knife to a gunfight? Bring a gun to a missile fight?

Because when you're at the point where you're fighting your own government's army with a handgun your biggest concern is that government laws don't allow you to legally acquire a fully automatic 50cal?   Roll Eyes
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Honestly I would not wonder if the globalists are behind this Virus, the killing of Floyd and the protests in the US! Just 5 months before the elections. Another 4 years of Trump would mean the end for Soros and Co.
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May 30, 2020, 10:45:24 PM

Here we go
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May 30, 2020, 10:45:59 PM

Nice pump, hope the guy who tried to drop the price hours ago bites his ass.
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May 30, 2020, 10:54:55 PM

Roll Eyes When 0.0001 is worth something in fiat terms you'll be glad you hadn't. Fees will be going down proportionately in btc terms.
At that time I'll have an address with a single input. It cost me $1.73 in fiat terms today to consolidate 143 inputs on that address. Somehow I thought consolidating at low sats today better prepares a long term hodl position. Especially considering that transaction fees are likely to go up as new users create economy and network traffic.
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Roll Eyes When 0.0001 is worth something in fiat terms you'll be glad you hadn't. Fees will be going down proportionately in btc terms.
At that time I'll have an address with a single input. It cost me $1.73 in fiat terms today to consolidate 143 inputs on that address. Somehow I thought consolidating at low sats today better prepares a long term hodl position. Especially considering that transaction fees are likely to go up as new users create economy and network traffic.

Good job and thanks for the heads-up. I did not have to consolidate, but sent a tx with about 2sat/byte and it was included in a block within 2-3 hrs.
@JJG has a point, though, maybe it is good to keep some wallets with multiple 0.01-0.05 btc UTXO's unconsolidated (like a bunch of loose pearls [or diamonds, lol] in a jewelry box).

People who made series of 1btc paperwallets (as few were recommending about five years ago) when btc was around $200 certainly cut it in chunks that may become too big from the theoretical perspective of possible $200-300K/coin.
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