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You know @pashaas, you just exaggerating. Men get real, read arguments of the other side. Take a deep breath.  World will look much brighter Wink

#lockdownsceptics


You and LFC are not the brightest people around here isn't it?

If both of you understand why hospitals are getting overwhelmed than you will realize how much full of schit you both are.

overwhelmed like in Brazil with 5,000 infected & 200 deaths until,
Members of Parliament break into hospital and CAUGHT THEM RED HANDED NOT ONE PERSON
hospital frauded the world!!  Careful potentially sensitive content to view.
https://twitter.com/aoecoin/status/1272712575537438720?s=21

Did have a real life quarrel today, parted both of the opinion to have won,          
only to meet up shortly thereafter:
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Even assuming Twitter is a reliable source of factual news, and that government ministers in jeans and T-shirts only have phone footage as evidence for an official visit (to what looks not very much like a hospital)....

What would a corrupt private hospital claim in a country with a non-low level of corruption tell us about the level of real disease there?

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Even assuming Twitter is a reliable source of factual news, and that government ministers in jeans and T-shirts only have phone footage as evidence for an official visit (to what looks not very much like a hospital)....

What would a corrupt private hospital claim in a country with a non-low level of corruption tell us about the level of real disease there?


Bazil not the only country with massive corruption
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Even assuming Twitter is a reliable source of factual news, and that government ministers in jeans and T-shirts only have phone footage as evidence for an official visit (to what looks not very much like a hospital)....

What would a corrupt private hospital claim in a country with a non-low level of corruption tell us about the level of real disease there?


Two days old and Brazilens translated it
Bazil not the only country with massive corruption
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Another source...
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/bolton-trump-told-treasury-secretary-to-go-after-bitcoin
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"Don't be a trade negotiator," Trump allegedly said, as was written in The Room Where It Happened, a copy of which was provided to the Washington Examiner. "Go after Bitcoin [for fraud]."
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Even assuming Twitter is a reliable source of factual news, and that government ministers in jeans and T-shirts only have phone footage as evidence for an official visit (to what looks not very much like a hospital)....

What would a corrupt private hospital claim in a country with a non-low level of corruption tell us about the level of real disease there?


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Bazil not the only country with massive corruption

I didn't say it was the only country with corruption.

I did wonder if you might attempt to answer the question I asked, though.
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BBC News - Coronavirus: Bank pumps £100bn into UK economy to aid (btc) recovery
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53093127

"The Bank of England will pump an extra £100bn into the UK economy"

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You and LFC are not the brightest people around here isn't it?

If both of you understand why hospitals are getting overwhelmed than you will realize how much full of schit you both are.

Hospitals aren't overrun though.
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June 18, 2020, 01:48:15 PM
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A very interesting story!

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-Bitcoin-millionarie

This guy has my respect! He waited 7 years as a true hodler. He didn't sell everything, he left over 50% of his stash. He sold far from the top at 11K and still didn't buy at higher prices during December 2017 FOMO. We can learn a lot from this guy. Screw the ferraries and lambos though, I think this is a horrible investment (despite my hat).
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A very interesting story!

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-Bitcoin-millionarie

This guy has my respect! He waited 7 years as a true hodler. He didn't sell everything, he left over 50% of his stash. He sold far from the top at 11K and still didn't buy at higher prices during December 2017 FOMO. We can learn a lot from this guy. Screw the ferraries and lambos though, I think this is a horrible investment (despite my hat).
Two points. First, most people make almost nothing in a normal job. It's not the case that hodling can make you rich, but that everyone else is poor.

Second, the part about being almost happy to pay taxes. It's because of the state that most people are poor. Fuck taxes. The welfare state should be abolished.
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June 18, 2020, 02:22:46 PM

A very interesting story!

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-Bitcoin-millionarie

This guy has my respect! He waited 7 years as a true hodler. He didn't sell everything, he left over 50% of his stash. He sold far from the top at 11K and still didn't buy at higher prices during December 2017 FOMO. We can learn a lot from this guy. Screw the ferraries and lambos though, I think this is a horrible investment (despite my hat).

Difficult to use any one person as an example because people make choices, and surely if you end up waiting a couple of exponential cycles before meaningfully selling any large amounts of BTC then you are more likely to do better, and I doubt that we can expect future exponential price jumps to be as great as they were between 2011 and 2017

So sure, if you have an initial investment that is less than $10k, but the value of that investment goes to $100 million before you make any meaningful cashing outs, then of course, it would be a good idea to take out some profits, and there are a lot of ways that any guy (or gal) could be quite irresponsible with their level of cashing out and still be filthy rich or even be filthy rich after blowing half of the $100million.

In other words, the numbers are so great that they seem like a not very realistic example, including considering at what level should he have been more responsible or not splurged as much.

Probably we have talked about some of this stuff previously, and of course, living in Silicon valley causes for much greater expenses, so having one or two million in silicon valley might just make you comfortable rather than rich, but even by silicon valley expense levels, having $20 million to $40million is going to be in the filthy rich status...

Even a guy (or gal) currently in this thread who might have already been struggling for several years to reach 10 coins or 100 coins might  have some considerable difficulties considering if s/he will reach anything close to the example that you provided, ivomm.. and of course, if you have another 7 years from now, then perhaps?  If a guy/gal invested $10k at various points between 2015 and 2017, then s/he could have acquired anywhere between 10 coins and 50 coins with that amount of capital, so either the amount of capital invested should be greater or the amount of time to achieve $20million to $100million would need to be increased to more than 7 years, seems likely.

A very interesting story!

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-Bitcoin-millionarie

This guy has my respect! He waited 7 years as a true hodler. He didn't sell everything, he left over 50% of his stash. He sold far from the top at 11K and still didn't buy at higher prices during December 2017 FOMO. We can learn a lot from this guy. Screw the ferraries and lambos though, I think this is a horrible investment (despite my hat).
Two points. First, most people make almost nothing in a normal job. It's not the case that hodling can make you rich, but that everyone else is poor.

Second, the part about being almost happy to pay taxes. It's because of the state that most people are poor. Fuck taxes. The welfare state should be abolished.

Funny that you, Ibian, are able to take almost any positive and turn such positive into a negative.

Would you rather spend taxes on the $30million that you withdrew, or get locked up for 10 or 20 years?

Of course, it might take a whole hell of a lot of will power to HODL your bitcoin stash and not be tempted to cash out too much too soon through periods of your maintaining mediocre-ass jobs.  Surely the level of your bitcoin wealth can tempt any person with even strong will to cash out too much too soon.
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Hey, don't forget me, sweetheart. Grin

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You are not intellectual enough to understand the situation, it made what you are today: a pessimist is not a well informed optimist and the biggest disrespected person in the WO.

Instead of shitting in people's mounth stop drinking booz and educate yourself.

Back on my ignore list, i already expected you fruitless respons.

overwhelmed like in Brazil with 5,000 infected & 200 deaths until,
Members of Parliament break into hospital and CAUGHT THEM RED HANDED NOT ONE PERSON
hospital frauded the world!!  Careful potentially sensitive content to view.
https://twitter.com/aoecoin/status/1272712575537438720?s=21

Did have a real life quarlel today, parted both of the opinion to have won,         
only to meet up shortly thereafter:

You post makes no sence to me, half fabricated bullshit.

Before i move you on my ignore list i say one thing: you can't even read a simpel chart, Brazil already hiking on 1m cases and over 40k deaths.

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You know @pashaas, you just exaggerating. Men get real, read arguments of the other side. Take a deep breath.  World will look much brighter Wink

#lockdownsceptics


You and LFC are not the brightest people around here isn't it?

If both of you understand why hospitals are getting overwhelmed than you will realize how much full of schit you both are.

overwhelmed like in Brazil with 5,000 infected & 200 deaths until,
Members of Parliament break into hospital and CAUGHT THEM RED HANDED NOT ONE PERSON
hospital frauded the world!!  Careful potentially sensitive content to view.
https://twitter.com/aoecoin/status/1272712575537438720?s=21

Did have a real life quarlel today, parted both of the opinion to have won,         
only to meet up shortly thereafter:
f



In my opinion it is dangerous to believe bullshit like this.  I can tell you for a FACT that the covid units built in the hospital system I work for are REAL, and the fact they are up ~100% over the last week is also REAL.  And people who end up intubated stand a real chance of dying.

Now, is our social response to the disease overblown?  Perhaps.  Time will tell.  And at this moment that time is not that long.  It looks to me like the disease is NOT very deadly, but it is crazy contagious.  This means that it is true to say most people will not succumb to it, and it also means it may be true that our hospital systems can become overwhelmed.

Beware of people spinning this to the extreme in either direction, in my humble opinion.
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Establishment shills don't want anyone to worry about Covid because it gives them the right to defeat facial recognition.
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https://twitter.com/bitcoin/status/1273624240445706240?s=21

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A very interesting story!

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-Bitcoin-millionarie

This guy has my respect! He waited 7 years as a true hodler. He didn't sell everything, he left over 50% of his stash. He sold far from the top at 11K and still didn't buy at higher prices during December 2017 FOMO. We can learn a lot from this guy. Screw the ferraries and lambos though, I think this is a horrible investment (despite my hat).
Two points. First, most people make almost nothing in a normal job. It's not the case that hodling can make you rich, but that everyone else is poor.

Second, the part about being almost happy to pay taxes. It's because of the state that most people are poor. Fuck taxes. The welfare state should be abolished.

Funny that you, Ibian, are able to take almost any positive and turn such positive into a negative.

Would you rather spend taxes on the $30million that you withdrew, or get locked up for 10 or 20 years?

Of course, it might take a whole hell of a lot of will power to HODL your bitcoin stash and not be tempted to cash out too much too soon through periods of your maintaining mediocre-ass jobs.  Surely the level of your bitcoin wealth can tempt any person with even strong will to cash out too much too soon.
Freedom is not measured in money. A gilded cage is still a cage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xbp6umQT58A

And the result is always the same. Collapse and millions of deaths.

We know that excessive taxation only leads to a weaker economy and a need for even more taxes until we end up with literal slavery. We spent the past century running the experiment and we have all human knowledge at our fingertips. If taxes were lowered to a quarter of what they are then we would have four times the purchasing power for our work. At the price that a very small number of people would have to live a normal life, just like the rest of us. The horror.

The welfare state, with its high taxes, needs to be destroyed.
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June 18, 2020, 04:15:39 PM

A very interesting story!

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-Bitcoin-millionarie

This guy has my respect! He waited 7 years as a true hodler. He didn't sell everything, he left over 50% of his stash. He sold far from the top at 11K and still didn't buy at higher prices during December 2017 FOMO. We can learn a lot from this guy. Screw the ferraries and lambos though, I think this is a horrible investment (despite my hat).

True sir. that's really an interesting story. I think It inspires new holders and will be a motivational story for panic sellers.
I also bealieve that, Yet There are a lots of things, that we can learn
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A very interesting story!

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-Bitcoin-millionarie

This guy has my respect! He waited 7 years as a true hodler. He didn't sell everything, he left over 50% of his stash. He sold far from the top at 11K and still didn't buy at higher prices during December 2017 FOMO. We can learn a lot from this guy. Screw the ferraries and lambos though, I think this is a horrible investment (despite my hat).

Interesting story, I wish I could have started mining earlier than 2014. Back in 2010 one only needed a decent gaming PC to mine bitcoin.
IMHO I am good like this, I learnt a lot thanks to bitcoin. I have a few and that's enough for me. Financial freedom is the key here.
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Great, now I'm imagining thousands of rioters frenching and rubbing against eachother. Thanks dude.





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A very interesting story!

https://www.quora.com/What-is-it-like-to-be-a-Bitcoin-millionarie

This guy has my respect! He waited 7 years as a true hodler. He didn't sell everything, he left over 50% of his stash. He sold far from the top at 11K and still didn't buy at higher prices during December 2017 FOMO. We can learn a lot from this guy. Screw the ferraries and lambos though, I think this is a horrible investment (despite my hat).


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Interesting read I thought.



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Wall Challenge today

I would like everyone to try and get outside today and enjoy a hour out in the nature and sunshine.

The honor system ofc...but pics always appreciated.   strongbodies=strongminds


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Another low volatility day with bitcoin continuing to trading in a narrow range.  #dyor

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One more story that has given me a lot of courage, believe me, it is not over yet, more stories will be made.

Mr. Smith worked at a Silicon Valley tech company when he purchased $3,000 worth of Bitcoin in October 2010. “I had no idea how much to invest, but I was getting paid pretty well at the time, so I decided on $3,000.” Because Bitcoin was worth only $0.15 a piece at the time, his initial investment gave him around 20,000 Bitcoins.

From the very start, Mr. Smith knew that he was playing the long game, deciding to see just how high Bitcoin could go. For the next three years, he hodled his investment, only occasionally checking how Bitcoin is performing. But when Bitcoin hit $350, and then $800 just days later, Mr. Smith knew that it wouldn’t be wise to wait any longer.

He cashed out $2.3 million, quit his job
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