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September 09, 2020, 02:17:28 PM

Bad news update for today:

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September 09, 2020, 02:30:56 PM

^Could I ask that you make the image slightly larger please?  Those of us with macular degeneration can't quite make out the data.
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^Could I ask that you make the image slightly larger please?  Those of us with macular degeneration can't quite make out the data.

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September 09, 2020, 02:46:31 PM

Nice to see other people use the words: Schelling point... When I would usually see it together with other words like "Rube Goldberg Machine" and other such nonsense.
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^Could I ask that you make the image slightly larger please?  Those of us with macular degeneration can't quite make out the data.

Sorry. Didn't think about that. I had to make it a link because bitcointalk doesn't have the science to display this size yet.

https://i.imgur.com/3I8CyKs.jpg
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^Could I ask that you make the image slightly larger please?  Those of us with macular degeneration can't quite make out the data.

Sorry. Didn't think about that. I had to make it a link because bitcointalk doesn't have the science to display this size yet.

https://i.imgur.com/3I8CyKs.jpg

 Thanks but I wish I could unsee that now.


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September 09, 2020, 03:22:49 PM

OT: Witness how Wall Street has their shit together, knows what they are talking about, and that you should listen to them.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes





Not more than one day apart. Confused yet?   Huh
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The horror.
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September 09, 2020, 03:29:29 PM

OT: Witness how Wall Street has their shit together, knows what they are talking about, and that you should listen to them.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

-Jim Cramer showing opposite views snipped-

Not more than one day apart. Confused yet?   Huh
I share your disgust at the hopeless clown, but seeing your frequent mentions of him here I understand some peeps complaining about people in their ignore list getting quoted by other peeps they follow.
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September 09, 2020, 03:38:49 PM

@Torque
I agree with you almost on everything but...there's a but. The Winklevoss' know for sure the WS world, no doubt. I believe they are wannabe new WSers though. They want to simply replace the old financial powerful guys with their pretty faces.
Am I wrong to see it this way? I see them very much tied to the old world that I can't read those words genuinely.  Huh
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September 09, 2020, 04:09:42 PM

excuse me proudhon but the fuck is this? Trendline resistance based on just one point? XD

http://prntscr.com/uedkaj

No, I used many scientific math data points. It's too sophisticated to post all of the analysis, so I just post a helpful summary using the best summary of proven science and math confirmed by analysis.
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September 09, 2020, 04:16:21 PM
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excuse me proudhon but the fuck is this? Trendline resistance based on just one point? XD

http://prntscr.com/uedkaj

No, I used many scientific math data points. It's too sophisticated to post all of the analysis, so I just post a helpful summary using the best summary of proven science and math confirmed by analysis.

proudhon’s purpose is to make SwayStar look like a genius.

It’s a conspiracy!  Confirmed with many scientific math data points.  It’s too sophisticated to post all of the analysis, so I just post a helpful summary.

we can infer the rest.

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You guys are becoming a black hole. Cool

I didn’t misread:  I took a generally applicable aphorism that you stated with an elegant flourish, and applied it in a different, related context.

Yes, the context is related in the abstract.
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September 09, 2020, 04:28:31 PM

No, I used many scientific math data points. It's too sophisticated to post all of the analysis, so I just post a helpful summary using the best summary of proven science and math confirmed by analysis.

we thank you for you thoughtfulness in sparing us from using our brain to think for ourselves.

in the future perhaps you could just post the single word "confirmed" or "science" instead of bigly images and all that stuff we wont understand anyway. we can infer the rest.
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September 09, 2020, 04:40:42 PM

excuse me proudhon but the fuck is this? Trendline resistance based on just one point? XD

http://prntscr.com/uedkaj

No, I used many scientific math data points. It's too sophisticated to post all of the analysis, so I just post a helpful summary using the best summary of proven science and math confirmed by analysis.

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September 09, 2020, 04:51:48 PM
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$10,000 holding strong, give up bears, resistance is futile.

$13,000 coming soon......

This year resembles 2016 in so many ways - the halving, the recovery after 85% crash, and last but not least - various shitcoin pumps. It is very hard in general for a n00b to avoid the traps of the fast profit seeking with these pumps. They have both positive and negative effect on the Bitcoin price. Positive - because part of the trading is with Bitcoin pairs and so more Bitcoins are locked in these markets. Also, after 99% of the "traders" register losses, they come to their senses and understand that the only real profit is longterm by investing and hodling Bitcoin. Negative - the remaining 1% (usually the creators of the scam exits) harvest tens and hundreds of millions profit. The profit which is in bitcoins they have little hesitation to sell and dump the price. This is probably what happened in the last days with sushi exit scam and other defi shitcoins listed on binance as well. Perhaps the bears thought they can take advantage of this situation and put a pressure on 10K, but all this is in vain. They just can't hold the price any longer to fill their bags with cheap coins. This is not only the end of their sub 10K throw the kitchen sink efforts - this is the continuation of a massive bull run which, with several short pullbacks, should take us above 100K in few years. But hey, may be the bears will succeed in bringing the price below $100K for several months. And proudcon and other funny trolls will come and inform us that Bitcoin is dead and it is coming down to $60K. Same old, same old.  

Yep and the real key is gpu/shit coin mining.

here is some cost analysis for a miner.

15 x 270.00 =   4050 this gets you 15x amd 5600 msi gpus.
3 x 175.00   =     525 this gets you 3 motherboards land and ready for the cards.
3 x  33.33    =     100 this gets you 3 psu's used s9 psu's are good the apw3+

total cost =   4675 usd. you burn 2100 watts it earns 24.00 usd not counting the power cost of 2100 watts


4800 gets you 2 s19 pros you burn 6000 watts.  it earns 17.38  not counting the power cost of 6000 watts

huge disparity in favor of gpu mining.

last time this happened was 2016 and 2017.  so are we in a good loop. these numbers led a huge rally in btc.

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September 09, 2020, 05:22:06 PM

hope you all got in at 9960 and bought the dip!

9.8-ish we have seen overnight

Still $9,825 has been the lowest of the various BTC price dips below $10k in the past 6 days, and we have not quite gotten down to $9,800.  We have only been visiting these 4 digits in the past 6 days - which broke our streak above $10k that started on 7/26 and ended on 9/3. Of course, some folks are suggesting that the 5 digit streak is not broken until the daily candle closes below $10k...  Seems like a bit of an overblown technicality to me, but hey there are frequently ways to spin, even spinning the spin.

The latest dip below $10k was the most persistent and seemed to have been an attempt to get the daily candle to close below $10k, which was not successful. 

So, yeah there have been about 5 attempts that achieved getting below $10k, but so far have not been successful in staying below $10k for any kind of meaningful time - but that still does not mean that we are NOT going to go below $10k for a longer period of time.

I will be surprised if we are still ranging between $9k and $11k in the next couple of weeks and more so in a month, and even more surprised if that ranging were to play out for two months, given our current macro circumstances.  Up does seem slightly more likely than down.. maybe looking at 56.7/43.3 odds - but what do I know?  There surely are a lot of motivations for shaking a few trees of weak hands, and surely there are some folks who could be shooken.. especially if they are connected more broadly to some of the frothiness in the space... On the other hand, there are likely some shorts building, too, and could provide some incentive for them to get reckt, but will they?
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September 09, 2020, 05:28:03 PM
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Yep and the real key is gpu/shit coin mining.

here is some cost analysis for a miner.

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I don’t think that this is relevant to Bitcoin’s market prospects.

The notion that Bitcoin is given its value by mining cost, or “backed by electricity”, etc. is a pernicious myth that needs to die.  It is the organic rise of Bitcoin’s value (based on supply and demand) that drives mining cost (and thus, Byzantine security) by increasing hashrate competition.  Not vice versa.



maybe looking at 56.7/43.3 odds

lolz, confirmed maths?  ;-)

Take those statistics out to eight decimal places if you want real science.



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Everything I wrote before was just confirmed, by a guy that would know the Cabal (aka Wall Street) pretty well. The Bitcoin market might just be one of the last truly free markets on the planet.

https://twitter.com/tylerwinklevoss/status/1303421878888009728



I am a bit bothered by Tyler's use of the word "crypto" - even though i understand that it could be a camouflaging term.

Most of us active in this particular thread know that there would not be hardly any ability for the various shitcoins to flourish in their lil funzies without the underlying security that bitcoin provides the whole space..... Many of the shitcoins, defi and yield farming can proclaim that they are decentralized (when they are not) because they are operating under the ruse that bitcoin is secure in that decentralized sense.

Each of us must admit, the shitcoins are become quite creative in the way that they are taking (and making money) by one shitcoin copying the code of another shitcoin and one-upping them on which farm food they will employ as their mascot, and even official exchanges are listing such memecoins.  Has to have various affects on the space, including the purported wrapping of BTC... Give us your BTC, and we will wrap it in a piece of shit project and find out if your BTC is still alive after such wrappenings.  Cuyte, right?

I appreciate that you are tempted to be "creative" with your desires for non-liquidation of wealth, nullius, but please don't do that with your BTC nullius...  Your progeny NOT going to likey, likey. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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September 09, 2020, 06:00:05 PM
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I appreciate that you are tempted to be "creative" with your desires for non-liquidation of wealth, nullius, but please don't do that with your BTC nullius...  Your progeny NOT going to likey, likey. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Interesting way to get progeny against daddy’s wishes.
Well, Zeus was creative:  He knocked up Danaë by “wrappening” himself in the form of liquid wealth, which then entered her.
My implications, and the question of whether I have any, are
left as an exercise to the reader.



I am a bit bothered by Tyler's use of the word "crypto" - even though i understand that it could be a camouflaging term.

Confirmed etymologically correct pun.  (Crypto means ‘hidden’.)
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September 09, 2020, 06:16:38 PM


Fake news. The true news is bitcoin is crashing.

Proudhonk, you consider drastic bitcoin price movements as news to WO?
Interesting...

And so my ignore list is growing again.

It is SAD to ignore Proudhonk in my humble, confirmed, opinion.
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