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[JayJuanGee]

Hi guys, I'm Alex, I hope your bitcoin hangout helps me with one question.I am writing a guide for a event related to the bitcointalk community (the idea of ​​the annual Crypto Community Award),
which will include 20 nominations with the possibility of voting.

For example: Antihero (A contender for maximum hostility from members of the forum) or / Scandal of the year / Event of the year / and so on. When I finish, I will be happy to discuss possible additions and will not refuse help with moderating the Crypto Award. In the meantime, I want to know your opinion on this idea.

I would like a title that recognizes my contribution as being worth more than giving stolen coins to others (apologies to the honest donators who don't go around calling attention to their donation).  I think a good title would be Inventor.  Short, simple - I didn't give financial value a time the forum needed it, but I gave other value - the same kind the forum itself does to a community.  So I will lock this topic and hopefully wake up one day with a custom title.  Smiley

After the announcement of the results, it would not be difficult for theymos to add the winners their well-deserved titles, for example (Moderator of the Year, Antihero, Guru, etc.).

Vod would be happy to get a headline describing his contribution or, for example, the Vod/OG scandal of the year. Perhaps Lauda will become an anti-hero due to thousands of feedback messages, and The Pharmacist will be a Bitcointalk guru.

best regards
~icopress

Seems to me that you should start a thread (or threads) on this topic in order to attempt to get feedback, and also to gauge how popular your topic is in order to stand alone and/or to get members to participate in the thread.  Furthermore, you can surely link such thread(s), once you create it (them) in threads like this, in order to inform members of the existence of such thread(s).

Seems to me that just the creation of various titles (even if temporary) might end up being controversial.. unless those titles were voted on with a broader swath and the participation of "somewhat established" forum members.. so maybe you would need either a poll within your topic or separate threads for different titles that would be considered (or nominated).  

I personally really cringe at anything that attempts to categorize crypto as if it were some kind of broader category and that bitcoin fits into such category as if it were an equal to the various shitcoins  - even though technically "crypto" is likely an accurate description, even though it still irritates me because frequently shitcoins are trying to suggest that they are some kind of equal to bitcoin - even though none of them would exist without king daddy either providing cover for them and/or actual open source hashing power security for the whole space..... that includes a variety of scams and deceptive projects - that largely in the long run to the extent that any of them might contribute value would be absorbed into bitcoin or end up running on bitcoin as a second, third or fourth layer.  There are quite a few forum members that are bothered in a variety of ways by describing crypto or the use of such categorization that involves bitcoin in it, when bitcoin seems to be a category in itself in terms of how to think about the space.. Many of us know the description: "there is bitcoin and there is 'shitcoins'.  "

Anyhow, point is that titles tend to be controversial, and likely you would need to have a pretty open process, and I doubt that theymos is even going to get involved in endorsing such titles unless you either get him to agree in advance or you have some kind of overwhelming participation of "somewhat established" forum members that cause theymos to want to endorse such system once you have already established it.

the first part is a fine idea, but theymos is unlikely to add the titles, as was said in that thread

There is already a thread?

Are you suggesting the thread in which Vod is quoted?

That post from Vod should have a clickable link, by the way.. just to make it easy to reference and to verify context.

humour honed in hell
temper forged at the bottom
V8s is shameless


I would like to compete for the title 'Shameless grandstanding whore'.

hahahahaha

Case in point:  the above is what might end up happening...

Members lobbying for some kind of title...

 

I am not afraid to say that you are a shameless grandstanding whore, as demonstrated by your actions.  Call me a merciless twat, if you must.

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[Last of the V8s]

meh. turns out no one said that in the fucking thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276092.0

[nullius]

Do your own fucking due diligence, people, instead of being a shill for a political party that doesn't even exist in your own country.

It's been ages since I watched that film, but I remember clearly the bottom-line, which has nothing to do with Alex Jones, or any political party in the US.

You missed the point I was making in that the moral of the film was co-opted by anti-maskers.

Say what?  The altered version of the film image read, “STAY HOME”, not “WEAR A MASK”.  The difference is substantive, insofar as I think that many people who object to lockdowns and the shutdown of society would, of their own accord, wear masks.  Yet you drag a broad brush of what is hereby an inaccurate “anti-masker” label, then tack on Alex Jones and Donald Trump—plus “retarded” insults.

Agenda much?  And do you apply the same intellectual honesty and accuracy elsewhere?

Of course, I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting that you mistook simple English words.  I don’t think that you’re retarded.

I guess Mr. Carpenter was way ahead of the times. Unreal.  ::)

LOL. You are propagating the retarded meme of some Alex Jonestown woketivist...  [...]  Do your own fucking due diligence, people,

This also has nothing to do with masks, but rather, with an abject lack of historical perspective:

So what was going on back in 1918? Big brother trying to force conformity on the masses for the purposes of ushering in a new world order?

Your smug contempt is misplaced.  Under various names, the “New World Order” thing has been ongoing since much before 1918.  It is indeed real, although most of the people who talk about it have no idea what they are talking about.

To obviate a potentially long discussion reaching back before the Twentieth Century, I will simply point out that the Federal Reserve was established in 1913.  (And if you believe that that was benignly intended, I have a bridge hot defi ICO to sell you...)

The public discussion of the international conspiracy to enslave the whole world has also been ongoing longer than you think.

Mentioned just for kicks:  I recall once having happened across a political cartoon in a newspaper from (IIRC) 1906 1911 depicting Karl Marx being welcomed to the United States by a group of famous American bankers and industrial magnates.  Off the top of my head, I think it caricatured Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie, and a few others.  Unfortunately, I do not have it handy; and I lost the reference (wherefore “just for kicks”).  I should find that again some day.  Perhaps you could help, applying those skills at digging up obscure articles from century-old newspapers.  Surely you have spent much time perusing historical primary sources, as I have?  Edit:  Thank you, Last of the V8s.  That deserves much more than +2.

Perhaps we're just trying to globally combat a pandemic by encouraging proper hygiene until it has subsided? Or is that just way too looney tunes of a conspiracy?

No, we’re they’re trying globally to_combat a low-lethality pandemic by locking everybody up like caged animals, guaranteeing that the animals will be controlled with hunger pangs by simultaneously inflating the currency supply and imploding economic production, instituting a mass-surveillance wet-dream under the rubric of public health protection via “contract tracing”, etc., etc.  Edit:  LOL, V8s.  Yes, that was a delightful typo whereas “contract tracing” is a kind of FATF thing...

If they were just telling people to wear masks and wash their hands, and advising elderly and other at-risk people to self-isolate, then you would have a point.  Focus on the IF.

[Last of the V8s]

oooh typo. nullius you sloppy old sausage. contract tracing? maybe they should do that too

anyhow

[sirazimuth]

Focus on the IF

IF you're a woman, under 40 years of age, around 55kg and nice looking, I'd like to meet and skull-fuck your brains out.
Teething and biting is not allowed, whilst rimming is most welcome.

Let me know sweetheart.

Small wonder they skedaddled from here...
 (notice how I used the pronoun "they" ...  walls of nullius "I'm smarter than everyone" text incoming in 3..2..)

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Hey r0ach, didn't you get the memo? It's epidemic now.

Fuck off

Ya know this thread has fascinated me for the past few years. It's why I occasionally chime in
with off topic tongue in cheek silliness as I don't take myself or anyone in here to seriously,
unlike many folks on this forum who believe they got it all figured out..they don't, and neither do I ftm, but anyway....

Dude.....WTF is up it with your strange never ending  beef with marcus..never figured that one out.

[philipma1957]

Do your own fucking due diligence, people, instead of being a shill for a political party that doesn't even exist in your own country.

It's been ages since I watched that film, but I remember clearly the bottom-line, which has nothing to do with Alex Jones, or any political party in the US.

You missed the point I was making in that the moral of the film was co-opted by anti-maskers.

Say what?  The altered version of the film image read, “STAY HOME”, not “WEAR A MASK”.  The difference is substantive, insofar as I think that many people who object to lockdowns and the shutdown of society would, of their own accord, wear masks.  Yet you drag a broad brush of what is hereby an inaccurate “anti-masker” label, then tack on Alex Jones and Donald Trump.

Agenda much?  And do you apply the same intellectual honesty and accuracy elsewhere?

I guess Mr. Carpenter was way ahead of the times. Unreal.  

LOL. You are propagating the retarded meme of some Alex Jonestown woketivist...  [...]  Do your own fucking due diligence, people,

This also has nothing to do with masks, but rather, with an abject lack of historical perspective:

So what was going on back in 1918? Big brother trying to force conformity on the masses for the purposes of ushering in a new world order?

Your smug contempt is misplaced.  Under various names, the “New World Order” thing has been ongoing since much before 1918.  It is indeed real, although most of the people who talk about it have no idea what they are talking about.

To obviate a potentially long discussion reaching back before the Twentieth Century, I will simply point out that the Federal Reserve was established in 1913.  (And if you believe that that was benignly intended, I have a bridge hot defi ICO to sell you...)

The public discussion of the international conspiracy to enslave the whole world has also been ongoing longer than you think.

Mentioned just for kicks:  I recall once having happened across a political cartoon in a newspaper from (IIRC) 1906 depicting Karl Marx being welcomed to the United States by a group of famous American bankers and industrial magnates.  Off the top of my head, I think it caricatured Morgan, Rockefeller, Carnegie, and a few others.  Unfortunately, I do not have it handy; and I lost the reference (wherefore “just for kicks”).  I should find that again some day.  Perhaps you could help, applying those skills at digging up obscure articles from century-old newspapers.  Surely you have spent much time perusing historical primary sources, as I have?

Perhaps we're just trying to globally combat a pandemic by encouraging proper hygiene until it has subsided? Or is that just way too looney tunes of a conspiracy?

No, we’re they’re trying globally to_combat a low-lethality pandemic by locking everybody up like caged animals, guaranteeing that the animals will be controlled with hunger pangs by simultaneously inflating the currency supply and imploding economic production, instituting a mass-surveillance wet-dream under the rubric of public health protection via “contract tracing”, etc., etc.

If they were just telling people to wear masks and wash their hands, and advising elderly and other at-risk people to self-isolate, then you would have a point.  Focus on the IF.

So far you are correct.

Even with a big surge in the fall say 10 million on top of the first million you would still be right.

the spanish flu was 20-50 million dead with a wonderful spectacular fall surge.

the world was about 1/7 what it is now around 1.2 billion vs 8.4 billionaires or so.

So to equal the spanish flu death rates we would need to reach 140-350 million by may of next year.

a lot more then the 1,000,000 dead we have.

Still as a person that most likely survived it Back in Jan of 2020 and having 7 relatives that survived  it. From Jan 2020 to March 2020 it is more then the standard flu.

My wife is still suffering from the damage it did to Her in Jan Feb 2020.  and 3 of our other relatives were hospitalized by it.

To say you are right and  know what you are talking about would not be correct.

But by Jan1-Feb 1 2021 unless a lot of people die from know till then  you would be pretty accurate.

The spanish flu in 1918-1919 the second wave had 7x to10x the numbers of the first wave.

that would boost to 7-10 million for the covid.  But would be far shy of the 1918-1919 numbers.

I am personally rooting for 20 -25 million to die from it from now til feb 1 2021.

My best guess is 2-3 million die from it rom now till feb 1 2021 which would make you a winner in your guess.

[nutildah]

I am personally rooting for 20 -25 million to die from it from now til feb 1 2021.

 

Well obviously covid is simply not as lethal an illness as the Spanish Flu, so you have to rejigger your extrapolation a bit to account for reduced lethality. I don't know what the actual numbers are off-hand but I'm sure some decent estimates are out there.


As far as everything else is concerned, I just think some people have fun believing they are the targets of a global conspiracy to keep them down. It somehow adds a sense of meaning to their lives if they can convince themselves they are fighting tyranny in the name of the greater good.


"This affects all of us man!"

The truth is far more boring and depressing perhaps, which is part of what makes it difficult to accept: nobody actually gives a shit about you, because you simply aren't important enough to care about.

Anti-maskers want to fight an enemy that they perceive to be threatening their God-given rights. Meanwhile what they are actually doing is fighting common sense.

Of course the law should be a bit more nuanced than that. I don't think you should have to wear a mask if you aren't in a public area around lots of strangers. But if you are, just have the common fucking courtesy to wear the mask.

[Arriemoller]

humour honed in hell
temper forged at the bottom
V8s is shameless


I would like to compete for the title 'Shameless grandstanding whore'.

I'll take" Omnipotent ruler of the universe".

[nullius]

Small wonder they skedaddled from here...

I think that she skedaddled because nobody would believe in her market calls and various claims of spectacular trading prowess.  Sort of like why she apparently skedaddled a few months ago.  Either that, or she just got too damn rich to hang out on an Internet forum anymore.

May I suggest a salutary observation of how I subsequently rolled Cryptotourist’s “off topic tongue in cheek silliness” with humour of my own, just to keep the peace between those lovebirds, instead of radiating disapproval at a quirky and insightful chap who was probably a bit peeved at SwayStar for her demand that WO be deleted as “toxic”.^*  LOL.  At least, that was my read on it.

* Original topic title:  “Should Bitcoin Wall Observer thread be deleted?”  Title and OP later edited to call instead for merits to be disabled in WO.

(notice how I used the pronoun "they" ...  walls of nullius "I'm smarter than everyone" text incoming in 3..2..)

She was asking for it there.

By “she”, “was”, and “there”, I mean respectively “you”, “are”, and “here”, because I have Progressed your confusion of pronouns to confusion of inflections, and of other parts of speech.

No, you will not get a long post so easily.  Not even a custom title.

Dude.....WTF is up it with your strange never ending  beef with marcus..never figured that one out.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg55247366#msg55247366

[BayAreaCoins]

Surely you've seen this by now or something like it:

You've probably seen signs like these as well from those times:









Social distancing from blacks back then wasn't due to hate... it was due to health.  Medical science believed that colored people could pass diseases, viruses and sicknesses if they weren't "socially distanced".

Do you support all signs and "social distancing" from the 1900's?  Seems criminal 100 years later, right?

So what was going on back in 1918? Big brother trying to force conformity on the masses for the purposes of ushering in a new world order?

I think the theme of Big Brother trying to hold people down was common then and is still common now.  

Especially with this scammy COVID19 shit and peoples retarded cloth masks that make them feel like they are saving the world lol!

I guess no one wants to talk about social distancing black again... rats.  lol jk  

[lightfoot]

[nullius]

You get caught cold using bullshit twisty propaganda techniques to push an agenda, and you just ignore it?  Let’s see, what else:

As far as everything else is concerned, I just think some people have fun believing they are the targets of a global conspiracy to keep them down. It somehow adds a sense of meaning to their lives if they can convince themselves they are fighting tyranny in the name of the greater good.


"This affects all of us man!"

The truth is far more boring and depressing perhaps, which is part of what makes it difficult to accept: nobody actually gives a shit about you, because you simply aren't important enough to care about.

This continued belittling, combined with vast leaps of illogic.  Did you read from Saul Alinsky’s playbook?

Of course, the typical ordinary individual worried about this kind of thing is not personally a target of a global conspiracy.  An ordinary individual is not worth it (unless he ceases to be ordinary by becoming extraordinarily troublesome).  Global power is.

A global conspiracy in fact exists.  Stop with the belittling, or else I will toss something into P&S that give some of the real retards there endless fuel to annoy you:  An open admission, at the baseline, of the existence of a conspiracy to destroy national sovereignty throughout the world, via dishonest covert means.  Real and verifiable (from JSTOR, no less).  Brazenly hiding in plain sight.  Just one tiny little tidbit, a bare scintilla of evidence, a verifiable quotation from someone who would know whereof he spoke...  No, I will not Reveal The Truth (which is anyway far too complex to be understood by ordinary people).

[nutildah]

I'm ignoring you in general because you take too many words to say too little. If you start a post directed at me with an insult, and then I scroll down to see 8 more paragraphs, just assume I'm not reading it.

Have at P&S. Now that tecshare has seemingly retired (forcibly or otherwise) maybe you can become their new self-appointed god. I don't post there anymore, utter waste of time. It's all yours.

[nullius]

If you start a post directed at me with an insult,

You started this by directing a barrage of insults at Karartma1 for his amusing joke:  “Retarded”, “Alex Jonestown” (whereas you’re the only person who has even mentioned Alex Jones!), “shill”, etc.  I am not the only one who objected—although perhaps I was the most vehement.  You then continued to grind your axe on an irrelevant point by belittling and insulting the intelligence of others generally.

I accused you of dishonestly pushing an agenda, based on your observed behaviour.  I used sharper words when warranted warranted.

Your passing this off as a matter of my insulting you is an evasive misdirection.


—So summarized, with links to relevant statements, for the convenience of anyone else who may be curious.  Not you.  Of course, you know who said what; and moreover, as I have told you before:

whatever man, you're nuts if you think i'm reading all that. you win, OK?

My mistake was presuming a literacy level above that of Twitter.  [...]  If you are not reading it, then it is not for you.

I'm ignoring you in general because you take too many words to say too little.

OK.

[jojo69]

[suchmoon]

Have at P&S. Now that tecshare has seemingly retired (forcibly or otherwise) maybe you can become their new self-appointed god. I don't post there anymore, utter waste of time. It's all yours.

It's actually not too bad now. It's amazing how the absence of one buffoon can improve the atmosphere. Assuming you have BADecker on ignore.

Corn up.

[xhomerx10]

[Cryptotourist]

Its being politicized in a way the filmmaker never intended, ~

How the fuck do you know what the filmmaker intended?
Consume, conform, stay tuned whilst inside (and outside), doesn't it ring a bell?

~ for the sake of making an edgy meme which just happens to represent a component of the ideology of a political platform in the U.S.

For the sake of a meme? You're getting funny now.

Perhaps we're just trying to globally combat a pandemic by encouraging proper hygiene until it has subsided?

Perhaps not. Proper hygiene does not include locking down people, and destroying economies.

Of course the law should be a bit more nuanced than that. I don't think you should have to wear a mask if you aren't in a public area around lots of strangers. But if you are, just have the common fucking courtesy to wear the mask.

Which new boss has this agenda? No1, no2 or no3? <<< Your words.
Yeah, please do us the courtesy and STFU.

I'm ignoring you in general because you take too many words to say too little. If you start a post directed at me with an insult, and then I scroll down to see 8 more paragraphs, just assume I'm not reading it.

Ignore me too. Cliché.
Whenever you guys get cornered and have nothing more to add, it is always the same. Zero points for being original.

unlike many folks on this forum who believe they got it all figured out..they don't, and neither do I ftm, but anyway....

This trick does not work on me. Try harder.

Dude.....WTF is up it with your strange never ending  beef with marcus..never figured that one out.

Aren't you in charge of the Grin thread FUD? Must have stirred things up today, for you to be asking.
I have a beef, and I wield it towards any direction I please. End of story.

I'm not for sale. Relay that to marcus. And the baton to someone else.


Seems we almost have quorum. This is goooood.

[nutildah]

Your passing this off as a matter of my insulting you is an evasive misdirection.

Not at all. By opening with an insult you instantly drain any desire I might have to read any further. It's actually that simple. So feel free to incorporate that tidbit into your future missives, or not; ultimately its up to you of course.

I do apologize to @Karartma1 for my crassness.

It's actually not too bad now. It's amazing how the absence of one buffoon can improve the atmosphere. Assuming you have BADecker on ignore.

I do, and I read a few threads there from time to time, but some of the topics remain severely depressing even w/o TS. Besides, at this stage in the game I'd just rather not know the political beliefs of people I otherwise hold in high regard for their contributions elsewhere.

How the fuck do you know what the filmmaker intended?

Well I don't. But what I do know is that covid-19 wasn't around in 1988.

[tranthidung]

Updates from Brazil (Manaus) and Sweden.

Unexpected precious cost on human resources but Manaus likely reach the herd / community immunity. Sweden probably reaches what they have been looking for at beginning.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8760031/Expert-claims-Sweden-herd-immunity-coronavirus.html
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.16.20194787v1.full.pdf
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1026-x