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March 08, 2014, 01:34:10 AM


  Yeah... transfer whatever BTC there is 180K-ish to NEW wallets, and sell the user data...

All these transactions would be accomplished in the process of transferring ownership to the NEW exchange that will be opening soon..... maybe under supervision of bankruptcy oversight?
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March 08, 2014, 02:39:53 AM

everyone busy selling?
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March 08, 2014, 02:42:56 AM

everyone busy selling?

Trading right now is as interesting as watching marathon on TV.
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March 08, 2014, 02:44:02 AM

http://www.bitcoinlayman.com/bitcoin-community-raises-15000-5-hours-dorian-nakamoto/

now at 31BTC and counting.

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March 08, 2014, 02:52:04 AM

And ugly.
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March 08, 2014, 02:59:07 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQmIRea_FWo

he dosnt say "i'm no longer Involved"  he clearly says "I'm Not Involved in Bitcoin"

but i'm starting to think its him

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrrtA6IoR_E
he is sooo lying

He sounds like he has absolutely no clue what Bitcoin is. I can't fathom how people can actually think this is THE Satoshi Nakamoto. Are they blind or do they want to believe it's him so much they can't think and see properly anymore? I don't get it it's just beyond stupid.
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March 08, 2014, 03:00:54 AM

note to governments:  because of your overly strict AML policies a million passports are now in the hands of a hacker.  And if gox stored the "recent bill" scan it will be SIMPLE for a criminal to load that into a graphics editor and update it.  So AML verification spoofing will be simple for the new owners of this database.  

But the REAL tragedy here is that in an attempt to prevent a relatively minor crime --  and I know preventing $ laundering is important but the volumes here are tiny compared to fiat AFAIK -- you printed a million boarding passes so terrorists can bring their evil right to our front door.

Passport doc requirements should be limited to physical travel only and even travel companies should be legally required to store no data except a single number call it a public key which is used to confirm (insecurely but to a small degree anyway) that the company in question saw the passport.

Well said.

Now imagine the same thing happening with biometric data...  Angry
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March 08, 2014, 03:05:34 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQmIRea_FWo

he dosnt say "i'm no longer Involved"  he clearly says "I'm Not Involved in Bitcoin"

but i'm starting to think its him

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrrtA6IoR_E
he is sooo lying

He sounds like he has absolutely no clue what Bitcoin is. I can't fathom how people can actually think this is THE Satoshi Nakamoto. Are they blind or do they want to believe it's him so much they can't think and see properly anymore? I don't get it it's just beyond stupid.

Satoshi is a very good actor too, that's what he wants you to think.
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March 08, 2014, 03:07:15 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQmIRea_FWo

he dosnt say "i'm no longer Involved"  he clearly says "I'm Not Involved in Bitcoin"

but i'm starting to think its him

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrrtA6IoR_E
he is sooo lying

He sounds like he has absolutely no clue what Bitcoin is. I can't fathom how people can actually think this is THE Satoshi Nakamoto. Are they blind or do they want to believe it's him so much they can't think and see properly anymore? I don't get it it's just beyond stupid.

Satoshi is a very good actor too, that's what he wants you to think.

Not sure if serious...
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March 08, 2014, 03:16:17 AM

The guy may have initially implied he knew something about it for the attention and possible money. But I can't understand why, even if it is him, that he is being interrogated by the media.
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March 08, 2014, 03:40:59 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQmIRea_FWo

he dosnt say "i'm no longer Involved"  he clearly says "I'm Not Involved in Bitcoin"

but i'm starting to think its him

watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrrtA6IoR_E
he is sooo lying

He sounds like he has absolutely no clue what Bitcoin is. I can't fathom how people can actually think this is THE Satoshi Nakamoto. Are they blind or do they want to believe it's him so much they can't think and see properly anymore? I don't get it it's just beyond stupid.


Each of us get different senses of the situation... when I see someone live or video and then I see how they are responding verbally and physically... with Dorian, I get the sense he is overcompensating...... and b/c of that I get the sense that he may be the real one...     but then I do NOT see the whole conversation, just clips, here and there.

Then, I agree that he does NOT want to be bothered and he wants to deny, and that denial should be respected. 

The ONLY reason that we in the bitcoin world may have a right to know SN and his intentions is that if he realizes that he has about a million BTC, and he decides to begin to move those BTC... b/c of some reason, such as his anonymity having been breached.  Then we may need to know what he intends to do with those BTC.. dump them or to distribute them more widely... .. b/c dumping large quantities of BTC would have a traumatic effect on BTC prices...

And, there may be some other reasons, that it may be good to know about the real SN.... . even though overall, I kind of agree with the sentiment that it does NOT matter so much, so long as the real SN wishes to remain anonymous or unknown.. so long as he does NOT do something extreme with the BTC under his potential control.

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March 08, 2014, 03:52:33 AM


NOTE: Thanks for the user who proposed a pterosaur for extreme bullish predictions.  Now looking for an ichtyosaur to match.


It's more that Nemicolopterus crypticus is clearly a Chinese chicken.  And based on its name, a cryptographic chicken to boot. 

http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2008/02/080211-mini-pterosaur.html

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NOTE: Thanks for the user who proposed a pterosaur for extreme bullish predictions.  Now looking for an ichtyosaur to match.


It's more that Nemicolopterus crypticus is clearly a Chinese chicken.  And based on its name, a cryptographic chicken to boot. 

http://news.nationalgeographic.com.au/news/2008/02/080211-mini-pterosaur.html

But happy to be of service in any event.



bullish or bearish.. over the weekend...  


Based on this current downtrend in BTC prices (over the last couple of days)... I guess the BTC market remains a little worried about additional negative and uncertainties in the news, such as: GOX moving of coins, Japanese declaration of BTC as a non-currency and this twobit guy potentially outing the foundation members on Monday...   Maybe those news items are driving our current downward (sell) pressure.     

I am a dollar cost averaging kind of guy when it comes to BTC.. but I want to time my multiple small purchases to low points in the price... to the extent possible.. and the extent reasonably predictable... .. So maybe over the weekend, we may hit $580?  Possibly?    Or should I just suck it up and buy at $610-ish..., if we return to that point (which we are nearing such price, as I type - we are bouncing down to $619-ish.. as I am typing)?   

Certainly, if we can establish some kind of reason that BTC is going lower in price in the near future, then I will wait out and buy at that lower price point.





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Is anyone else having an issue viewing anything other than 3-minute charts on Bitcoinwisdom?
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March 08, 2014, 04:05:17 AM

"If you are not involved with Bitcoin at all, you have to tell me now." Nakamoto: "I can not do that."

It is intriguing. From a primary English speaker this sounds odd (meaning it sounds as if he is admitting he would be lying if he told her he wasn't involved). Obviously it could have come out worse if he doesn't speak/understand English from birth. I could easily see this going either way. Imagine it from a strong English speaker, then imagine that answer from someone who isn't so strong. "I can not do that," could simply be frustration. I mean he had to call the cops. Anyway, we could parse this forever. I guess we'll find out for sure one day.
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March 08, 2014, 04:07:25 AM

"If you are not involved with Bitcoin at all, you have to tell me now." Nakamoto: "I can not do that."

It is intriguing. From a primary English speaker this sounds odd. I have heard worse from folks who maybe don't speak/understand English from birth. I could easily see this going either way. Imagine it from a strong English speaker, then imagine that answer from someone who isn't so strong. "I can not do that," could simply be frustration. I mean he had to call the cops. ANyway, we could parse this forever. I guess we'll find out for sure one day.

In one of articles journo said Dorian is not speaking perfect English.
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March 08, 2014, 04:07:27 AM

NOTE: Thanks for the user who proposed a pterosaur for extreme bullish predictions.  Now looking for an ichtyosaur to match.

Since dinosaurs have been added, these slumber posts have really become much clearer to me. I think you're onto something.
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March 08, 2014, 04:09:20 AM

Is anyone else having an issue viewing anything other than 3-minute charts on Bitcoinwisdom?

1hr here no problem
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March 08, 2014, 04:14:42 AM

"If you are not involved with Bitcoin at all, you have to tell me now." Nakamoto: "I can not do that."

It is intriguing. From a primary English speaker this sounds odd (meaning it sounds as if he is admitting he would be lying if he told her he wasn't involved). Obviously it could have come out worse if he doesn't speak/understand English from birth. I could easily see this going either way. Imagine it from a strong English speaker, then imagine that answer from someone who isn't so strong. "I can not do that," could simply be frustration. I mean he had to call the cops. Anyway, we could parse this forever. I guess we'll find out for sure one day.
May have thought she said, "Tell me that your are involved with bitcoin, now." "I cannot do that."
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Somebody is trying to reinforce the Weekend Dip myth =)
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