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[jojo69]

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[JSRAW]

What happen to you jo, mrs harassing you/ kids are not talking or you are dying? please tell me.

[jojo69]

[psycodad]

That dude is all talk. People should stop kissing his ass.

I still cant believe how they land those rockets time after time.. that's more than talk.

Now if he starts accepting BTC for Tesla cars buys, we can arrange something about the kissing part...

Open source the code and allow me to truly "own" my car and I'll pick one up.

^ This.

Not that Tesla (and their car control center) didn't ever get hacked yet, lucky for them it was always a Tesla-Fanboy wanting only the best for them otherwise the company might be dead by now already. Though, one has to give them that they seem to react exceptionally professional and fast to exploit reports.

Being supervised by dozens of cams and micros you don't control seems like a nightmare to me (just from a privacy view, not even talking about OpSec). As it stands now, I would have to be paid to drive such a car and not the other way around.

But having access to the firmware, open interfaces etc. could be very interesting indeed and at some point *might* change my mind.

[strawbs]

That dude is all talk. People should stop kissing his ass.

All talk?

The man is sending rockets to space...

He went down in my estimations when he called one of the heroic Thai cave rescuers a pedophile, just because he didn't have time to consider Elon's PR stunt submarine idea

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter

[philipma1957]

We're not cheerleaders. Most of us are like 95% in bitcoin.

I'm like 140% in bitcoin.

I hope no one tries to long squeeze me.

Wait..

I was 90%-10% btc to doge

and sold ltc and eth to pay the mining bills.

doge went from 0.007 usd  to 0.082 usd in a day.

I managed to sell about 13000 usd off of the doge. As I never wanted to be heavy into doge.

Basically The 25 l3+ miners were purchase in dec 2018 because I had a good  power deal and could don't get enough s9's to fill the hall.

I paid about 3k for the l3+ gear. It has earned 6x what I paid for it.

I have directed most earnings into power bills gear bills and btc.

I am going to say that I now consider Doge to be a shitcoin since my trezor hs frozen 440,000 doge coins which would be all converted by now to btc and cash.

Still waiting on the doge to unfreeze to dump it.

This is why BTC is still number 1 coin it has a lot of solid infrastructure. Not like crappy Doge which locked up about 1/2 a btc worth of coin on me.

So I am now converted into the position that doge is a shit coin.

[rolling]

That dude is all talk. People should stop kissing his ass.

All talk?

The man is sending rockets to space...

He went down in my estimations when he called one of the heroic Thai cave rescuers a pedophile, just because he didn't have time to consider Elon's PR stunt submarine idea

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter

Everyone says stupid shit from time to time. None of us are immune from the occasional moment of stupidity, his are just very public.

The fact is, he is changing the world the same way BTC is. You have to give him credit for that at the very least.

[Torque]

So I am now converted into the position that doge is a shit coin.

It always has been, and it always will be.

In fact, any coin that a) doesn't have a futures market, b) companies are not converting their treasuries to or talking about doing so, and c) won't have upcoming ETFs for

are all shit coins.

So what does that leave?

[d_eddie]

That dude is all talk. People should stop kissing his ass.

All talk?

The man is sending rockets to space...

He went down in my estimations when he called one of the heroic Thai cave rescuers a pedophile, just because he didn't have time to consider Elon's PR stunt submarine idea

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter

Everyone says stupid shit from time to time. None of us are immune from the occasional moment of stupidity, his are just very public.

The fact is, he is changing the world the same way BTC is. You have to give him credit for that at the very least.

I'm with lightfoot on the open source thing though.

It's my ass being driven around, I'd like to know what the driver is "thinking".

It will likely never happen though. I see two reasons off the top of my mind.

1. Keeping trade secrets. This could seem moot, given that actual production has a deep moat - high entry level, but think of copycat Chinese factories. Tesla knockoffs at 1/3 the price?

2. Regulation. This is much tougher. Once the car is smart enough to mind speed limits etc. for you, do you think traffic authorities will be keen to give up that level of control? Let you hack the "engine" at your will? Forget it.

[strawbs]

That dude is all talk. People should stop kissing his ass.

All talk?

The man is sending rockets to space...

He went down in my estimations when he called one of the heroic Thai cave rescuers a pedophile, just because he didn't have time to consider Elon's PR stunt submarine idea

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter

Everyone says stupid shit from time to time. None of us are immune from the occasional moment of stupidity, his are just very public.

The fact is, he is changing the world the same way BTC is. You have to give him credit for that at the very least.

Sure, he deserves credit for that. I was just saying that he went down in my estimations. I mean, it wouldn't be saying much for my character if I said he went up in my estimations as a result of calling an innocent man a pedo....

[JSRAW]

I thought of you philipma1957 when I dumped my bags, still got heavy bag tho.

[d_eddie]

Sorry jojo, no more merit for old legendary codgers  

+2 WOsMerit


Sorry for WOsMerit inflation. We promise it's temporary. We are closely monitoring the situation.

Brrrr brrrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr brrrr...

[VB1001]

[HeRetiK]

In case anyone wants to observe other walls for a change:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQbg_WU-0AQ

It's a live stream of level 2 data for GME and other meme stocks. Not sure how long this channel will stay online though, as I presume level 2 data is usually not supposed to be freely available.

[AlcoHoDL]

That dude is all talk. People should stop kissing his ass.

All talk?

The man is sending rockets to space...

He went down in my estimations when he called one of the heroic Thai cave rescuers a pedophile, just because he didn't have time to consider Elon's PR stunt submarine idea

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter

Everyone says stupid shit from time to time. None of us are immune from the occasional moment of stupidity, his are just very public.

The fact is, he is changing the world the same way BTC is. You have to give him credit for that at the very least.

I'm with lightfoot on the open source thing though.

It's my ass being driven around, I'd like to know what the driver is "thinking".

It will likely never happen though. I see two reasons off the top of my mind.

1. Keeping trade secrets. This could seem moot, given that actual production has a deep moat - high entry level, but think of copycat Chinese factories. Tesla knockoffs at 1/3 the price?

2. Regulation. This is much tougher. Once the car is smart enough to mind speed limits etc. for you, do you think traffic authorities will be keen to give up that level of control? Let you hack the "engine" at your will? Forget it.

I see your point, and I like the idea of Open Source, but I don't think you will be able to really know what the driver is "thinking"... Having access to code does not mean one can easily understand it, especially if it's complex code. Sometimes I have difficulty understanding my own code, written maybe a year before. And my code is full of carefully written comments and documentation, so beautiful it's almost a work of art. But if it's very complex, it won't be so easy to run it in your head and understand it fully. Usually, Open Source relies on larger entities, like universities or research institutions, auditing and evaluating the code, which is OK, but you'll still be relying on others to tell you what the driver is "thinking", to the best of their abilities...

IMHO, it's not likely to happen, for many reasons, some of which you've already outlined.

[d_eddie]

I'm done with WOsMerits, too - at least for today. I've got some... uh... technical problems to issue more.

(Brrrr WOsMerit print factory margin called)

Ah! Found a solution. I sold a few put options on sMerits for WOsMerit, so I have a tasty premium in my margin account. So I can invest THAT.

In case anyone wants to observe other walls for a change:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQbg_WU-0AQ

It's a live stream of level 2 data for GME and other meme stocks. Not sure how long this channel will stay online though, as I presume level 2 data is usually not supposed to be freely available.

+1 WOsMerit

What could possibly go wrong?

[philipma1957]

I thought of you philipma1957 when I dumped my bags, still got heavy bag tho.

To me I hodled it as a Joke.
 
1,000,000 was the peak I had at 0.0025 about $2500.00

fucker kept going up. If my 440,000 coins left get unstuck and I sell 290,000 at 4 cents. 

I will have turned 2500 usd worth into 24,600 In under six months.

[JayJuanGee]

You are surely sounding optimistic these days, d_eddie... as compared to when we were in the $6ks in 2018 and you seemed to be wondering if we were ever going to make it above $12k again..

My how times have changed!!!!!!   

 

few peeps want to be analyzed.. especially by a founding father...

 


Actually I don't think I ever doubted we would be back to the ATH again. I might have thought some more down was in order, or I might have thought it would take a whie (did it? How long?), but I never thought the ATH was lost for good, so I doubt I ever wrote anything like that. Check again maybe?

Sometimes it can be good to revisit..and surely each of us have our moments of doubts or even conservative projections - so there are quite a few of us who are sufficiently prepared for UPpity but continue to maintain relatively conservative price projections.. and I recently updated my expectations that the 208-week moving average (which is now about $8,400) will move up 10% to 12% per year rather than my previous consideration of 6% per year (and I was not using the 208-week moving average previously either, I was merely using some kind of a seat of my pants anticipation of the bottom, bottom).

Also when the BTC price dipped from $6k to nearly $3k in November/December 2018 - I conceded that we had entered into a bear market - even though such bear market did not really last too long .. which surely I am going to admit forever that I am a bit of a lagging indicator, as well... .. but still even as a lagging indicator, since about late 2014, I have not really been inadequately peepared for UPpity - even though I do recall having a few panic (kind of like FOMO) moments at various points in 2015 and 2016, and I kind of claim to have been cured of some of my FOMO/panic in early 2017 and likely due to some of my own loss of funds due to hackers and likely my own security lackadaisicalness.

[Torque]

OT: Pretty funny

https://old.reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets/comments/la3ku2/they_act_like_silver_is_so_fetch/

[d_eddie]

That dude is all talk. People should stop kissing his ass.

All talk?

The man is sending rockets to space...

He went down in my estimations when he called one of the heroic Thai cave rescuers a pedophile, just because he didn't have time to consider Elon's PR stunt submarine idea

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/15/elon-musk-british-diver-thai-cave-rescue-pedo-twitter

Everyone says stupid shit from time to time. None of us are immune from the occasional moment of stupidity, his are just very public.

The fact is, he is changing the world the same way BTC is. You have to give him credit for that at the very least.

I'm with lightfoot on the open source thing though.

It's my ass being driven around, I'd like to know what the driver is "thinking".

It will likely never happen though. I see two reasons off the top of my mind.

1. Keeping trade secrets. This could seem moot, given that actual production has a deep moat - high entry level, but think of copycat Chinese factories. Tesla knockoffs at 1/3 the price?

2. Regulation. This is much tougher. Once the car is smart enough to mind speed limits etc. for you, do you think traffic authorities will be keen to give up that level of control? Let you hack the "engine" at your will? Forget it.

I see your point, and I like the idea of Open Source, but I don't think you will be able to really know what the driver is "thinking"... Having access to code does not mean one can easily understand it, especially if it's complex code. Sometimes I have difficulty understanding my own code, written maybe a year before. And my code is full of carefully written comments and documentation, so beautiful it's almost a work of art. But if it's very complex, it won't be so easy to run it in your head and understand it fully. Usually, Open Source relies on larger entities, like universities or research institutions, auditing and evaluating the code, which is OK, but you'll still be relying on others to tell you what the driver is "thinking", to the best of their abilities...

IMHO, it's not likely to happen, for many reasons, some of which you've already outlined.

Yes, I have no hope to be able to understand the code in its entirety. A team of smart people, spread around the world, could manage to find bugs, make improvements etc., like most open source communities do. My hope to see what the driver is "thinking" didn't even extend to a communal/emerging understanding of such a huge, complicated OS.

Small improvements in the auto braking system... hacking the current flow to allow for smoother operation, or more powerful/uncontrollable acceleration... small things like that is what I had in mind. Not things like disregarding one way streets, traffic lights or zebra crossings.

However, I'll bet most of the higher level functions are based on deep learning, so access to the code without the huge training data is probably pointless.

One can dream though...