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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
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Can't you just point it there, fire a thruster, and let it go it's course? (I mean, calculate where it should end up, but yeah, basically go towards the sun.)
Nope. I think Larry Niven covered this too, prolific guy. You either speed it up, which takes it to a higher orbit or slow it down which takes it to a lower orbit. To take it to an orbit low enough to burn up in the sun, you need to slow it down the whole amount that the earth is orbiting the sun (about 67000 mph). There's a little bit of fudge in this due to eliptical orbits and drag from the sun's atmosphere but that's the basic principle. Essentially anything you fire into the sun is going to get there on a spiral path. Correct. I really recommend reading up on the Messenger probe that went to Mercury, it needed an insane amount of fuel and a number of earth and venus flybys to slow down enough to even get to mercury. In space speeding up takes energy, slowing down takes energy, everything takes energy :-) In terms of space stuff remember that we lived to see the Viking landers. Those were pretty darn amazing. In terms of great filters and the Fermi paradox, remember that one reason we might not see others is that they're just more efficient. Take lighting: For a long time the best way to see life on earth is to do a spectrographic analysis of our planet and you would see an insane line for sodium which is not natural. That's the sodium vapor lights we used for street lamps. Except now we are using LEDs which have far less light scattered upwards because they are much more efficient. Or TV signals: Our TV signals used to be easy to spot: A massive signal spike (the sync signal) followed by colorburst, then the X and Y of the scan line. Easy to spot, very repeating pattern, can't be nature made, obvious sign of intelligence. However now we have switched over to HDTV which is not only digital but encrypted digital so the stuff looks like background noise. And it's much lower power because once again efficient. That's in 100 years. There may be only a short window where we can spot other civs before they get efficient and encrypt everything because the Altarian Disney Company doesn't want to share their content without payment :-)
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It is a common myth that Bitcoin is ruled by a majority of miners. This is not true. Bitcoin miners "vote" on the ordering of transactions, but that's all they do. They can't vote to change the network rules.
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BobLawblaw
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March 05, 2021, 12:28:55 AM |
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Order @ $47k just got filled. Next order set up to execute @ $46.5k - Set up down to $45k.
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Hhampuz
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Meh.
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March 05, 2021, 12:31:45 AM |
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This such boring movement last couple of weeks.. WO - when $60k??
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savetherainforest
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March 05, 2021, 12:33:19 AM Last edit: March 05, 2021, 12:46:34 AM by savetherainforest |
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Order @ $47k just got filled. Next order set up to execute @ $46.5k - Set up down to $45k.
I would totally merit you, but I don't have any anymore. Also... had regret of not being more greedy to put a few hundred lower... ... it dipped to 46,700$ ...
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marcus_of_augustus
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Eadem mutata resurgo
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March 05, 2021, 01:13:27 AM Last edit: March 05, 2021, 01:37:54 AM by marcus_of_augustus Merited by Arriemoller (1) |
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... the Great Filter is most likely socialist Statism or some equally toxic ideology unleashing widespread mis-management of civilisations that wipes it out through war, famine or plagues.
... just as knowledge, concepts and ideas are the true wealth of civilisations, fallacies, myths, superstitions and toxic ideologies are its greatest dangers
edit: for civilisations to scale they need scale-free organisational concepts and structures ... not base-level, emotional, romantic, tribalist, power-centralising brutalism
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savetherainforest
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March 05, 2021, 01:48:51 AM |
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This such boring movement last couple of weeks.. WO - when $60k??
There will be another dump attempt in 12'-ish hours. But resistance feels strong!
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BobLawblaw
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March 05, 2021, 01:53:01 AM |
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Order @ $47k just got filled. Next order set up to execute @ $46.5k - Set up down to $45k.
Buy @ $46.5k executed. Next order @ $46k.
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Richy_T
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March 05, 2021, 01:59:37 AM |
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Or TV signals: Our TV signals used to be easy to spot: A massive signal spike (the sync signal) followed by colorburst, then the X and Y of the scan line. Easy to spot, very repeating pattern, can't be nature made, obvious sign of intelligence. However now we have switched over to HDTV which is not only digital but encrypted digital so the stuff looks like background noise. And it's much lower power because once again efficient.
Yes. I believe if I recall my information theory lectures correctly, at the limits of compression, information is indistinguishable from noise. Anything that doesn't look like noise is a candidate for more compression. In addition, broadcasting is inefficient and as our technology has improved, point-to-point communication has become realistic (in a similar way to the lighting. Indeed, I believe some places are beginning to experiment with conditional lighting where, for example, highway lighting only comes on when cars are actually using it and turn off when the roads are empty).
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savetherainforest
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March 05, 2021, 02:00:04 AM |
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Order @ $47k just got filled. Next order set up to execute @ $46.5k - Set up down to $45k.
Buy @ $46.5k executed. Next order @ $46k. dUNNO Man... ... Charts feel bullish. But in 10-11 hours we will find out!
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savetherainforest
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March 05, 2021, 02:23:19 AM |
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Or TV signals: Our TV signals used to be easy to spot: A massive signal spike (the sync signal) followed by colorburst, then the X and Y of the scan line. Easy to spot, very repeating pattern, can't be nature made, obvious sign of intelligence. However now we have switched over to HDTV which is not only digital but encrypted digital so the stuff looks like background noise. And it's much lower power because once again efficient.
Yes. I believe if I recall my information theory lectures correctly, at the limits of compression, information is indistinguishable from noise. Anything that doesn't look like noise is a candidate for more compression. In addition, broadcasting is inefficient and as our technology has improved, point-to-point communication has become realistic (in a similar way to the lighting. Indeed, I believe some places are beginning to experiment with conditional lighting where, for example, highway lighting only comes on when cars are actually using it and turn off when the roads are empty). That sounds like a bioluminescence nightmare paved on a road with good intentions. We should go towards the path of spaceships, suborbital and orbital hotels and fighter jet type of interplanetary vehicles.
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Arriemoller
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March 05, 2021, 03:04:25 AM |
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Price going down yo!
Price will go up again as well.... But never above ATH as I confirmed. You have said it ... you haven’t actually offered any evidence to support your assertion. What? You don't believe in maths and science?
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Arriemoller
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March 05, 2021, 03:04:57 AM |
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Price still going down yo!
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Arriemoller
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March 05, 2021, 03:20:33 AM |
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Price going down yo!
Price will go up again as well.... But never above ATH as I confirmed. The original https://youtu.be/eehOjN95fuA?t=22
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March 05, 2021, 05:52:02 AM |
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what is this, a dip for a cock?
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March 05, 2021, 06:19:40 AM |
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Can't you just point it there, fire a thruster, and let it go it's course? (I mean, calculate where it should end up, but yeah, basically go towards the sun.)
Nope. I think Larry Niven covered this too, prolific guy. You either speed it up, which takes it to a higher orbit or slow it down which takes it to a lower orbit. To take it to an orbit low enough to burn up in the sun, you need to slow it down the whole amount that the earth is orbiting the sun (about 67000 mph). There's a little bit of fudge in this due to eliptical orbits and drag from the sun's atmosphere but that's the basic principle. Essentially anything you fire into the sun is going to get there on a spiral path. Correct. I really recommend reading up on the Messenger probe that went to Mercury, it needed an insane amount of fuel and a number of earth and venus flybys to slow down enough to even get to mercury. In space speeding up takes energy, slowing down takes energy, everything takes energy :-) In terms of space stuff remember that we lived to see the Viking landers. Those were pretty darn amazing. In terms of great filters and the Fermi paradox, remember that one reason we might not see others is that they're just more efficient. Take lighting: For a long time the best way to see life on earth is to do a spectrographic analysis of our planet and you would see an insane line for sodium which is not natural. That's the sodium vapor lights we used for street lamps. Except now we are using LEDs which have far less light scattered upwards because they are much more efficient. Or TV signals: Our TV signals used to be easy to spot: A massive signal spike (the sync signal) followed by colorburst, then the X and Y of the scan line. Easy to spot, very repeating pattern, can't be nature made, obvious sign of intelligence. However now we have switched over to HDTV which is not only digital but encrypted digital so the stuff looks like background noise. And it's much lower power because once again efficient. That's in 100 years. There may be only a short window where we can spot other civs before they get efficient and encrypt everything because the Altarian Disney Company doesn't want to share their content without payment :-) you might be on something there. the Altarian Disney Company does indeed not want to share content without payment. thing is that WE are the content. some weirdo soap opera. let´s hope we are good or funny enough to justify for another season.
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