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April 30, 2021, 05:34:23 PM

Hhahahaha

Diptwat SS123 is back... hahahahaha

I thought that you would be out licking your wounds from your last dumbass BTC predictions focused for long enough. 

The last few calls that I posted on this thread before getting hacked were quite profitable, not sure what your bitching about.

Your reading of "bitching" into my post remains of your own defensive projection rather than attempting to appreciate my posts for what they are.

are you recommending selling or shorting at this point? 

Read please

not financial advice!

Oh you do not have a recommendation?  You are just benevolently identifying a pattern, and the pattern does not mean anything but you still want to point it out for some reason not to recommend?

Maybe if we want your recommendation(s), then we would need to subscribe, right?   or at least enter into some kind of a contractual relationship, right?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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April 30, 2021, 05:49:59 PM

Imagine telling 2013 yourself that doom-and-gloom in 2021 would look like this:  Cool

Looks more like we'll be "testing" $20k soon.
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April 30, 2021, 06:15:58 PM

On the way for the 51K retest ?  Roll Eyes

Looks more like we'll be "testing" $20k soon. And by "testing" I mean "collapsing through".

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April 30, 2021, 06:16:43 PM

Imagine telling 2013 yourself that doom-and-gloom in 2021 would look like this:  Cool

Looks more like we'll be "testing" $20k soon.

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April 30, 2021, 06:18:17 PM


Excellent point, the difficulty adjustment is going to boost this further.

This is going to be an extremely interesting month.

"Sell USD in May and go away" - LOL.


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April 30, 2021, 06:21:25 PM

The first house in the Netherlands to be bought entirely with #bitcoin was just sold for 21₿.
https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1388192059044110339?s=20

Though looks expensive for what I see .....
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April 30, 2021, 06:32:46 PM
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Generated BIP39 Mnemonic 24 words.

I wish to store these words on a 2 of 3 paper backup and hide them.
It seemed a simple task.

So scouring through a book for these 24 words and assigning each a 5 digit code based on page number line number and position of word within the line. Then noting these down pencil on paper and hiding them would probably be meaningless to the finder.
I may just use the 24 words plus 1 method for extra security and commit this to pencil and paper in addition to being in my head.

Here, the biggest risk is that if you die or are otherwise incapacitated, nobody will be able to figure out how the fuck your system works...

unless you leave detailed instructions, but then you have the problem of how to secure those. Perfect security just doesn't exist, it's always a balancing act of choosing which risks you want to minimize.

The only way the workers can own the means of production is through public ownership by the government. When the government gets that much power, it never ends well. Plus, central planners can never keep up with the billions of price and markets signals that a free market does which leads to shortages, etc.

Workers owning the means of production directly is a utopian fantasy. How would this work exactly?

Also, what is stopping a group of enterprising individuals from creating a company right now where the workers own it and they directly control the means of production? Would the janitors get the same share as the software developers? What happens when a person moves to another company? What if some people are better at saving their money than others? Wouldn't we naturally return to some people having more than others and eventually the exact same wealth gap that we have now? Would you stop it from happening by making it illegal to save your money or live a frugal life? Would it be illegal to change jobs or would you lose your ownership when you changed jobs? Would a new employee just automatically get the same share as somebody working there for 20 years? What about a person who refuses to work at all. Would they still get a share?

Surely there are some socialists out there with some good ideas that would work as a business. Surely there are some altruistic individuals who would forego their billions and split that up evenly with the janitors and accountants.

If it was a superior way to run a businesses, wouldn't all businesses be run like that already? Why do you need the government to change something if the goal isn't to give the government central authority (i.e. Communism)?

I don't have any answers to all your questions since I am forbidden by sacred discordian law from believing any one ideology, or Belief System (BS) fully in its entirety, at all times.

I just wish people would have a more precise understanding of terms like communism and socialism. Here, it's not that difficult:

Quote from: wikipedia
Socialism is a political, social, and economic philosophy encompassing a range of economic and social systems characterised by social ownership of the means of production

The nice thing about Wikipedia is, that if you don't know what exactly the means of production are, you can click and find out!

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In economics and sociology, the means of production (also called capital goods[1] or productive property) are physical and non-financial inputs used in the production of goods and services with economic value. These include raw materials, facilities, machinery and tools used in the production of goods and services

Great! Now what about communism? This term has been distorted to its utmost after decades of cold war antagonism and is now mostly used as a derogatory term for anyone perceived as a leftist aka. dirty commie. Turns out this one isn't that hard to define, either!

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Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')[1][2] is a philosophical, social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of a communist society, namely a socioeconomic order structured upon the ideas of common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,[3][4] and the state.[5][6] As such, communism is a specific form of socialism.

You see, in theory, communism was supposed to be the opposite of "centralized government power". But that's what we got, thanks to the bizarre belief of Marxists and Leninists, that after forcibly expropriating the means of production and centralizing them under its own control, the state would peacefully take a bow and cease to exist. We anarchists tried to warn them since the mid 19th century that this wouldn't work but they had to go ahead, fuck it up, and discredit communism forever *shrug*.

Join us next time for another fun, badly needed educational corner wherein we will discuss the ominous term of Fascism and why it has nothing to do with your government telling you to wear mouth-cloths.  Wink

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For precise definition of terms abused by people who mostly have no clue and think "Kamala is a commie". Looking forward to your definition of Fascism. Hint for fellow followers: not only facemasks are absent from the definition, but "corporation" in that specific discussion will have nothing to do with a corporation in the firm/"inc." sense, but more with... will you believe it? - something like syndicates/trade unions.
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April 30, 2021, 06:36:03 PM

Then send him a merit Smiley  Kiss
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April 30, 2021, 06:38:42 PM

Thanks Dude. Done ;-)
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April 30, 2021, 06:45:11 PM

The first house in the Netherlands to be bought entirely with #bitcoin was just sold for 21₿.
https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1388192059044110339?s=20

Though looks expensive for what I see .....

If a place like that costs less then 21 BTC in Belgium I might consider moving there!

Houseprices went up 11% compared to 12 months ago in NL. We have a permanent shortage of about 300k houses here.

Edit: my appartment is 65 square meters, it's worth 400k euro atm............ Prices are crazy!
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April 30, 2021, 06:49:45 PM

The first house in the Netherlands to be bought entirely with #bitcoin was just sold for 21₿.
https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1388192059044110339?s=20

Though looks expensive for what I see .....

If a place like that costs less then 21 BTC in Belgium I might consider moving there!

Houseprices went up 11% compared to 12 months ago in NL. We have a permanent shortage of about 300k houses here.

Edit: my appartment is 65 square meters, it's worth 400k euro atm............ Prices are crazy!

A clear sign of a global pandemic with people dying left and right is a housing shortage... Wink
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April 30, 2021, 06:49:45 PM

The first house in the Netherlands to be bought entirely with #bitcoin was just sold for 21₿.
https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1388192059044110339?s=20

Though looks expensive for what I see .....

If a place like that costs less then 21 BTC in Belgium I might consider moving there!

Houseprices went up 11% compared to 12 months ago in NL. We have a permanent shortage of about 300k houses here.

Edit: my appartment is 65 square meters, it's worth 400k euro atm............ Prices are crazy!

https://www.immoscoop.be/immo.php?min_price=750000&max_price=&proptype=Sale&ajax=&distance=&country=&streetname=&livingareacondition=&livingarea=&plotareacondition=&plotarea=&yearcondition=&year=&province=&country=&bedroom=&feature=&searchcity=&region=&category=&order=date&get_newproject=&s_postcode%5B%5D=1260&s_postcode%5B%5D=2&main_city%5B%5D=2422

A very very descent city Schilde, you can give in Schoten, Brasschaat, S'gravenwezel.... Some very descent cities in Antwerp.... I prefer a lot over here worth around 21-25 Btc  lol You can adjust prices etc
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April 30, 2021, 06:50:34 PM

The first house in the Netherlands to be bought entirely with #bitcoin was just sold for 21₿.
https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1388192059044110339?s=20

Though looks expensive for what I see .....

If a place like that costs less then 21 BTC in Belgium I might consider moving there!

Houseprices went up 11% compared to 12 months ago in NL. We have a permanent shortage of about 300k houses here.

Edit: my appartment is 65 square meters, it's worth 400k euro atm............ Prices are crazy!

A clear sign of a global pandemic with people dying left and right is a housing shortage... Wink
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True...
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April 30, 2021, 06:56:48 PM

Imagine telling 2013 yourself that doom-and-gloom in 2021 would look like this:  Cool

Looks more like we'll be "testing" $20k soon.




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Addition is often the default operation.

High levels of mathematics anxiety.
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April 30, 2021, 06:59:44 PM

The first house in the Netherlands to be bought entirely with #bitcoin was just sold for 21₿.
https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1388192059044110339?s=20

Though looks expensive for what I see .....

If a place like that costs less then 21 BTC in Belgium I might consider moving there!

Houseprices went up 11% compared to 12 months ago in NL. We have a permanent shortage of about 300k houses here.

Edit: my appartment is 65 square meters, it's worth 400k euro atm............ Prices are crazy!

A clear sign of a global pandemic with people dying left and right is a housing shortage... Wink

Well a buddy of mine died of it. But no change in the housing situation because his widow is still living in the house.

A colleague has all but died - hope he'll pull through but chances are slim. But he also has a wife. Don't know if she'll move if he doesn't survive.

Five people died of Covid in the small home for elderly where my GF works. That might start some movement in the housing market, as five other people can now move in.
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April 30, 2021, 07:14:51 PM

The first house in the Netherlands to be bought entirely with #bitcoin was just sold for 21₿.
https://twitter.com/DocumentingBTC/status/1388192059044110339?s=20

Though looks expensive for what I see .....

If a place like that costs less then 21 BTC in Belgium I might consider moving there!

Houseprices went up 11% compared to 12 months ago in NL. We have a permanent shortage of about 300k houses here.

Edit: my appartment is 65 square meters, it's worth 400k euro atm............ Prices are crazy!

A clear sign of a global pandemic with people dying left and right is a housing shortage... Wink

Well a buddy of mine died of it. But no change in the housing situation because his widow is still living in the house.

A colleague has all but died - hope he'll pull through but chances are slim. But he also has a wife. Don't know if she'll move if he doesn't survive.

Five people died of Covid in the small home for elderly where my GF works. That might start some movement in the housing market, as five other people can now move in.

The elderly tend to die...shouldn't change the housing market. They've been doing so for a while now.
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April 30, 2021, 07:16:18 PM

Greedy much?

Off for my daily walk, feeling happy and blessed for my "fuck you" wealth, my hard-earned HoDL reward, all thanks to Bitcoin.

Onwards & upwards!

HoDL.

An interesting question. I guess I am, but it is more like a game of "More".
I think that I have this only chance of a generational wealth for even extended family, so, indeed, I am pressing very hard.
I would very happy if bitcoin goes back to 70-90% or even more dominance.
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April 30, 2021, 07:18:56 PM
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When we all where dreaming of Price-page-parity....

Now we need 10x page-parity

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The elderly tend to die...shouldn't change the housing market. They've been doing so for a while now.

No, it's not just a question of space, also of time. If people live shorter they take up less spacetime.

Talking of time, my buddy dying does not free space now, as he and his wife lived in quite a small house so she has no real reason to move. However if she might find someone else in a couple of years and start to live together again, that will free some space (in time).
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April 30, 2021, 07:26:27 PM
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When we all where dreaming of Price-page-parity....

Now we need 10x page-parity

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Easy one.
We'll just leverage the page counts...  Cheesy
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