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August 26, 2021, 02:43:35 AM
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DCA is probably better than buy the dip because DCA is more basic in terms of NOT having to attempt to figure out if there is a dip or not.

Sure buy the dip can supplement DCA, but I don't like it as much as a primary BTC accumulating strategy, and sure the more aggressive that a person is with the DCA, then maybe the less funds that would be available for buying the dip, but there should be practical ways to attempt to accomplish both.

Overall, I agree.  If you factor the current point in the apparent cycle, however, I think putting stronger emphasis on buying the dip (definitely for the last few months, probably continuing for the next few months?) in addition to your methodical DCA schedule will be more rewarding. If I was accumulating now, I think I'd keep the pressure on BTFD under 100k.

Well you might know there is some variation of a hypothetical that I like to give, which is that a bitcoiner newbie who might have $6k that s/he can use to buy BTC right now, and s/he has $6k as cashflow that is coming in the next 6 months and s/he knows can be made available for bitcoin (without failing/refusing to account for his/her expenses or potential emergency preparations) (that's a total of $12k).

If the guy/gal does not have any bitcoin, s/he probably should buy with 1/3 right away (somewhere between $2k and $4k based on having $6k available now and projection of another $6k coming available), s/he sets the 2nd 1/3 up $2k to $4k to DCA over the next 6 months, and finally s/he set's another 1/3 $2k to $4k aside for buying on dips.  That is the total of $12k to account for, which is 6k currently available and $6k coming available in the next 6 months.

Yes, using a $2k to $4k range may well makes matters seem a bit confusing, even though having good ways to think through your own finances and managing of cashflows can be confusing, too.. until you put your own personal preferences into a system that is comfortable for you.  

The fact that the hypothetical guy/gal has no bitcoin means that s/he needs to get the fuck started with buying some bitcoin, getting a stake and don't be diddle daddlying around, and these are the three BTC accumulation options to plug into in which s/he will be able to exercise discretion, even though I suggested some guidelines for framing the way to go forward which accounts for that s/he is starting with no bitcoin, and accounts for how much cashflow that s/he has in his/her budget in the coming six months - which is $6k at this time and another $6k over the next 6 months.  

The total factors that s/he should be accounting for is not only cashflow, but also his/her other investments (if any), view of bitcoin as compared with other investments, timeline, risk tolerance, and skills, time and abilities to learn, plan and tweak along the way.. and hopefully s/he has a minimum of a 4-year investment timeline to accumulate bitcoin but a longer time-frame would surely be better.  

In other words, I doubt that we can resolve what the specific investment numbers into BTC should be in each category for that hypothetical guy/gal, even though we kind of presumed some of the parameters of his/her having $6k in hand and $6k coming into his/her cashflow in the coming 6 months.  

Let's say for example, the 6 month dollar cost averaging and buying on dips plan is in practice, and 3 months into his/her carrying out this BTC accumulation plan, s/he comes across another $3k of extra cashflow unexpectedly that comes in that is available for BTC investing (maybe $6k additional cash came in, but s/he authorized him(her)self to allocate $3k for bitcoin), then I am of the view that presumptively s/he would divide that $3k into three parts - just like was done with the initial $12k of authorized cash.. and accordingly, s/he would consider investing 1/3 right away, plug 1/3 into his/her DCA and plug 1/3 into his/her buying on dips.  

There can be a lot of these kinds of presumptions that are created in regards to what to do in order to attempt to create a framework, but in the end, the newbie bitcoin investor has to make various assessments for him(her)self both in terms of how much of the free cash that s/he authorizes for bitcoin and how much that s/he specifically wants to allocate to each of the three manners of BTC accumulation:
1) buy right away,
2) DCA and
3) buy on dips.

If anyone making any investment into bitcoin over-invests by not having value in other assets/currency or an emergency fund, then that would be a pretty damned irresponsible/risky investing style in terms of potentially creating a system in which s/he is not sufficiently/adequately prepared for an emergency and then s/he is forced to cash out some or all of his/her BTC at a time that is not of his/her own choosing, merely because s/he over-invested, overly took risks and failed/refused to adequately prepare his/her finances and failed/refused to consider adequate/reasonable emergency funds that are likely more likely to be needed if they are not prepared for.  
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Can I have 3 BTC Now? I promise I Will not lose them 😁 I Will Use them for good purposes.

Certainly! Just wire me $160k and I'll get them for you right away!

No? Fine, buy your own damn coins then!

Dw, I wouldnt flinch if ya were on fire either 😂 maybe abit of pee. Hey its not much but it helps Just like that 1keur 😂😂😂

Stop bitching ya Girls and Help a Person out in need, you can never know what that person Will give back to you during a lifetime 😘 love everyone else whos Got a moral stand point 😘

See, there-in lies the heart of the problem... honor, pride, morality... these are things you need much more than money. You were begging for 3BTC several weeks ago when the price was $30k. Had all kinds of sob stories about why you so desperately needed them. If you were halfway legit and not full of shit, wouldn't your need now be satisfied with just 2 BTC since we're now at $48.5k? And how many sats have you scrounged up for yourself since then? Oh? Not willing to help yourself? Then why the Fuck should anybody else be willing to help you?

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Goddamn ISP issues had to get the system tethered to a phone and they don't make that easy these days.

Getting real stupid in my old age! Cheesy
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Getting real stupid in my old age! Cheesy

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Your getting a bit terse lately. Tongue
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Your getting a bit terse lately. Tongue

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Nikola Tesla : "I'm limited by the technology of my time"

eXPHorizon : "I'm limited by the People of my time"


Give up the begging, lad. Get a haircut, and get a real job. You are a legend in your own time mind.

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Nikola Tesla : "I'm limited by the technology of my time"

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Give up the begging, lad. Get a haircut, and get a real job.


The two are not mutually exclusive.
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The irony is that eXPHorizon posts his comparison to Tesla on other places online. I just found it, and pasted here. That's pretty funny, at least for my  own self....
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@eXPHorizon, I am not familar with this group, yet I see your begging at the top? 

https://bpip.org/Profile?p=eXPHorizon
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Very strange, every time I turn on my phone after dancing, the price of Bitcoin collapses.
Since the end of our rehearsal performance on May 19th, I slumped in the bathroom and watched the price of Bitcoin,In the past 3 months, I rarely danced because I was afraid to remember everything I experienced that day.

During this period of time, the price has picked up, and my mood has almost adjusted,I want to continue dancing, but I probably experimented with it 5 to 6 times,No matter what day I go to dance, the price of Bitcoin will definitely fall on that day,I am very distressed.
Later, I short Bitcoin every time I go to the dance studio,Today is the 7th time.

I did a new jazz dance for my sister 3 hours ago,My dad told me seriously that I must tell him before I dance next time.He opened an empty order in advance.
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Obviously, you don't have any business being in the cryptocurrency business (No pun intended) if you have this self defeatist mindset. Bitcoin isn't a Get Rich Quick Scheme or a Ponzi. It takes ups and downs too like every genuine business there is.
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@eXPHorizon : In the words of Frank Zappa? "Jesus Thinks You're a Jerk".

Ah, enough non-fun. I will stop spending time/bandwidth on eXPHorizon. It's too easy, but I have bigger fish to fry.   /ignore
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Ghahah they quotting from Reddit. You guys truly are pathetic worse than me 😂😂😂. Give me money and give Brains to some. GET A LIFE AND GET A BRAIN

Then 😂😂 he puts Morpheus in like 😂😂😂😂😂😂 he hacked the Matrix 😂😂😂😂😂
Special offer : I give Therapy sessions or Psychology lessons for 1BTC a month. 😁😁

Lesson 1 : Honor has nothing to do with Money.
Lesson 2: Money is a Tool to Uplif the Morals of Other Human Beings or Bash it(among other things) . Except Bashing aint really a moral thing.


What the hell is a bpip? Must be one of ur clowns thinking that this name looks awesome! Ima steal it 😂

And yes Nikola Tesla is my Idol, did some of his inventions at 9 years old. Which im sure none of you were moraly and intullectualy capable at that or any age. Imo go back to writing paragraphs or whatever.. I mean what person wouldnt have Nikola Tesla as their Idol? We owe the world to him, everything connected to Electricity is HIS WORK. AND MANY PEOPLE TRY THEIR BEST TO DISCREDIT THAT

See this is what happens when People are arrogant for no valid reason. They rather Bash on People and seethe all the time. Not even trying to invision any other outcome Just cause they hate the very idea of People being happy and helping folks. Doesnt even think about the Positives from this deed.
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