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Finally got my Lightning Node Running!

8DegreesWO

I ended up using a minimal installation of CentOS (NO GUI). Had to learn a bunch of new commands. no ifconfig/netstat/ntpupdate... crazy!

Ended up going 2 x 1TB SSD (Mid Range WD) and RAID1 (Software RAID). One massive root (/) partition and no SWAP. System takes about 5 Seconds to boot up.

I didn't op for TOR Services as i wasn't too worried about hiding my IP/Location and i wanted other public nodes to be able to connect back to me without having to first initiate the connection. Hence, Port Forward is enabled.

Still checking all the possible options in lnd.conf, but overall the basics are done!

I have downloaded 65GB of the Bitcoin Blockchain (Approx. 4 Hours). Using Bitcoin Core.

Planning to fund it with about 0.3BTC as i have that floating around in coinbase.

Will start with 8 Channels of about 500,000SAT to 5,000,000SAT. Love to get this WO LN Mesh up and running!

I have to admit i do miss using command line interface.



I set up my first Umbrel node. I too would like to join this WO LN hub.

I am still about a day away, about another 250GB of the blockchain to download.
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These are all decent points by PlanB..  

In this discussion, I would only quibble with his engaging in a kind of anchoring on $63k - even though yeah sure it is the ballpark of the current ATH.. but even he should likely recognize and appreciate that $63k is not too likely to be any kind of short-term gravitation point - beyond just serving as a pass through point.

On the other hand, if BTC prices were to top off for this cycle anywhere between $188k and $400k-ish (which are ballpark numbers that even PlanB has thrown out there), then $63k would be more than reasonable for a coming back to Jesus point (a kind of dippening bottom for the next cycle)... and hey, part of the reason to consider that $188k might be too conservative as a top for this cycle would be that $63k would only end up constituting around 67% correction from such a hypothetical top which to me more logically justifies that a blow-off top may well end up playing out a wee bit MOAR higher than $188k rather than justifying that kind of a potentially pathetic top to justify a lower than $63k bottom - absent merely a wick or something in that arena..

And, hey whatever I surely do not want to get ahead of my lil selfie about any of these kinds of matters in terms of attempting to get too far into specifics about a subsequent potential leg of our bitcoin journey when we have not even seen how this particular leg is going to play out... one step at a time.. one step at a time...

In the end, peeps can believe whatever they like in terms of what degree of subsequent bottoms would be feasible and reasonable but we surely are going to need to witness how this particular top plays out (yes presuming a top at some point.. but how far and when is another question) before we start to even attempt to be get into any kind of realistic and specific details in terms of attempting to attempt to figure our what might be the next leg of our king daddy's anticipated price journey- which presumably would be a subsequent correction that comes after the anticipated top (and we seem to be in the toppening portion as I type this post.. that's my working angle....surely not unsimilar to a few other regulars here)..
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Darwin, nature and all. Some will get it, some won't. That's life. I feel I did my part in spreading the word when I could, and I still do if I see really genuine interest.

You, me and OOM seems to be saying very similar things here.. just using different words.

I agree.
Especially you and me, we have a history of saying similar things using different words, which brought us to some temporarily heated discussions, occasionally.
Thanks to AlcoHODL and all the other bro's here around that are able to further "translate" my words into their original meaning  Cool
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September 16, 2021, 06:23:40 PM

privacy nightmare ensues? is it a path to something undesirable?
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/facebook-exec-on-launching-digital-wallet-we-plan-to-earn-peoples-trust-173921742.html

might eventually kill western union and/or xrp, but with identification required upfront, btc might not be affected.
they say that they would not co-mingle, but everyone knows that they eventually WILL..in a version 3.1 by my estimate.
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September 16, 2021, 06:26:28 PM

Enjoying my first and well deserved retirement vacation after lockdown and kids summercamp. I'm in Kos island, Greece. The mountains at the background is Turkey.



Why would you want a vacation now?

Too many things happening in bitcoinlandia, and in the world, no?

Come back, Paashaas.  We (royal that is) need you in the "real" world.

what a way to wake up in the morning :
"Yesterday we learned that one of our employees purchased items that they knew were set to display on our front page before they appeared there publicly.  This is incredibly disappointing. We want to be clear that this behavior does not represent our values as a team"
Wow, opensea, what a SURPRISE, that employees (including literally top management, Nate Chastain, Head of Product of all positions) fucked over everyone.  I am surprised and shocked, dare I say SHOCKED, to see that the platform fucks over people buying NFT's for personal profit.  Shocked I say /s

Link or it did not happen.

 Tongue

Also would like to revisit an old article from early this month which states "Researchers from the University of Texas have raised fresh concerns regarding Block.one’s record $4.362-billion ICO for the EOS blockchain in 2017 and 2018.(...)First, it directly manipulated EOS’s offering price upward through the extra buying and inflated the market value of the token. Second, it created the false impression of value of the token which enticed others to want to purchase the ICO token"

So 40% of the ICO was wash trades, for 1.2 million ETH, to pump the price and create an illusion of activity to entice people to buy it.  Everybody knows about this strategy.

But can we pump before the reckoning pls ?

Again?   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Delving into real shitcoin territory here... but I can hardly even believe any of this for a minute without an actual link or a pic or something..

Enjoying my first and well deserved retirement vacation after lockdown and kids summercamp. I'm in Kos island, Greece. The mountains at the background is Turkey.



Nice 🍸🍺🍺🍻


Don't encourage him. 

 Angry Angry Angry Angry

Next thing you know, he will be on "perma-vacay" blah blah blah...

And that's all we need in these here parts... another disappeared WO regular.
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And that's all we need in these here parts... another disappeared WO regular.

So true and whenever i think about some of those disappeared regulars, it feels very strange. Especially in these very covid times...
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I would not use SMS that way, personally, because, that's exactly how hackers sim swap to get into your account. If I have google auth, or the secret, I keep that stored separately. Then I can always use that to generate the new time based one time code that changes every 30 seconds.

I actually don't use a phone or mobile device for my google auth codes, I use a separate computer.
I'm compromising in other forms of security but generally it's still better than what most people use or do.

Don't break your phone, or make sure you have the secret so you can easily use it on any other phone or device.

Precisely. I actually do use a dedicated tablet for that separate from my phone and other computers. It stays turned off and stored in a secured/locked, non-disclosed location when not needed, and I only turn on wifi for about 1 minute only to re-sync the google auth codes when needed every few months when I use it, and then turn wifi right back off again. The secret is stored offline and secured. I do all crypto related activity on a desktop only (with a hardware wallet), not on a phone. Actually never on a phone.

It boggles my mind that most crypto people I read about do everything, including crypto wallet storage and also authentication to their crypto accounts, all on one single device: their phone. Are they fkn stupid? It's almost like they want to get phished/hacked/scammed out of their crypto.

I will say one thing though: we will never achieve mass adoption of Bitcoin until storing and using crypto is as easy as having and using a bank account online. The masses will never jump through all these technological hoops in order to adopt bitcoin. They are too afraid of fucking something up and getting hacked.

But you should have $1000-$2000 on your phone  if you have a lot of $$ and they find zip on your phone it looks shady . They may go $5 wrench to unlock your phone and you do not have a dime on it.

My father-in-law owned a bar he went home with 3 bank rolls.

He would use 1 for the nervous thief
He would use 2 for the calm thief
and he had the third ready for the really smart thief

He never needed the 2nd or 3rd bank roll.
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Darwin, nature and all. Some will get it, some won't. That's life. I feel I did my part in spreading the word when I could, and I still do if I see really genuine interest.

You, me and OOM seems to be saying very similar things here.. just using different words.

I agree.
Especially you and me, we have a history of saying similar things using different words, which brought us to some temporarily heated discussions, occasionally.

Hopefully, not too heated.   #nohomo

Thanks to AlcoHODL and all the other bro's here around that are able to further "translate" my words into their original meaning  Cool

hahahaha

Their "original meaning"..


And that's all we need in these here parts... another disappeared WO regular.

So true and whenever i think about some of those disappeared regulars, it feels very strange. Especially in these very covid times...

Of course, we are all mortal (unless we happen to be a "lucky" Turing-complete bot, and what are the odds of that?) - so peeps are going to disappear for sometimes unknown reasons.. and what is this thread?  around 8.5 years long in the tooth?
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Darwin, nature and all. Some will get it, some won't. That's life. I feel I did my part in spreading the word when I could, and I still do if I see really genuine interest.

You, me and OOM seems to be saying very similar things here.. just using different words.

I agree.
Especially you and me, we have a history of saying similar things using different words, which brought us to some temporarily heated discussions, occasionally.

Hopefully, not too heated.   #nohomo

Thanks to AlcoHODL and all the other bro's here around that are able to further "translate" my words into their original meaning  Cool

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Their "original meaning"..

Didn't find a better term, sry.


And that's all we need in these here parts... another disappeared WO regular.

So true and whenever i think about some of those disappeared regulars, it feels very strange. Especially in these very covid times...

Of course, we are all mortal (unless we happen to be a "lucky" Turing-complete bot, and what are the odds of that?) - so peeps are going to disappear for sometimes unknown reasons.. and what is this thread?  around 8.5 years long in the tooth?

The last words i heard of one of my best friends were "see you tomorrow". I guess this is coloring my emotions on these kind of topics.
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Very ugly and predictive long term channel has formed. You saw it here first.

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my word isnt good enough  Grin

opensea press release on fucking over customers by employees (of course they dont name and shame, nor do they admit to wrongdoing) : https://opensea.io/blog/announcements/employee-information-use-at-opensea/

NEO EOS (get mixed up with shitcoins all the time sorry) ICO wash trades scam study : https://www.integrafec.com/post/eos-ico
you can download the report from a link on that page.
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September 16, 2021, 07:28:42 PM

Since im ranting today, might as well point out some FED reserve bank presidents are (actively trading buy/sell multiple times) markets for 7 figures (lol, i mean why not just open a hedge fund with a tagline : "We make the good trades because we make the news")
see : https://www.scribd.com/document/525690690/Robert-Kaplan-s-2020-trades-and-holdings#
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But you should have $1000-$2000 on your phone  if you have a lot of $$ and they find zip on your phone it looks shady . They may go $5 wrench to unlock your phone and you do not have a dime on it.

My father-in-law owned a bar he went home with 3 bank rolls.

He would use 1 for the nervous thief
He would use 2 for the calm thief
and he had the third ready for the really smart thief

He never needed the 2nd or 3rd bank roll.

I understand the principle, but I personally don't have anything on my phone except pictures and emails, perhaps my online bank accounts (which still need a password), but no bitcoin or other crypto. That's not so strange I think.

I mean, if you get mugged and you have maybe $200 in cash on you, they will take your money and they may take the phone (which they will just sell anyway) but they're not going to bother finding out what is on that phone.
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But you should have $1000-$2000 on your phone  if you have a lot of $$ and they find zip on your phone it looks shady . They may go $5 wrench to unlock your phone and you do not have a dime on it.

My father-in-law owned a bar he went home with 3 bank rolls.

He would use 1 for the nervous thief
He would use 2 for the calm thief
and he had the third ready for the really smart thief

He never needed the 2nd or 3rd bank roll.

I understand the principle, but I personally don't have anything on my phone except pictures and emails, perhaps my online bank accounts (which still need a password), but no bitcoin or other crypto. That's not so strange I think.

I mean, if you get mugged and you have maybe $200 in cash on you, they will take your money and they may take the phone (which they will just sell anyway) but they're not going to bother finding out what is on that phone.

Exactly. The best thing is to not even signal that you own any bitcoin:

1. Don't store bitcoin in a wallet on your phone.

2. Don't have bitcoin screen savers on your phone/laptop/desktop.

3. Don't wear bitcoin related t-shirts, socks, ball caps, etc.

4. Don't have bitcoin coffee mugs, posters, framed art, etc. strewn about your house.

5. Don't incessantly talk about bitcoin with strangers.

6. And for gods sake, do NOT run about with a license plate that says BITCOIN, BTCLOVE, CRYPTOZ, etc.

They won't want or try to steal what they don't think you own.
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But you should have $1000-$2000 on your phone  if you have a lot of $$ and they find zip on your phone it looks shady . They may go $5 wrench to unlock your phone and you do not have a dime on it.

My father-in-law owned a bar he went home with 3 bank rolls.

He would use 1 for the nervous thief
He would use 2 for the calm thief
and he had the third ready for the really smart thief

He never needed the 2nd or 3rd bank roll.

I understand the principle, but I personally don't have anything on my phone except pictures and emails, perhaps my online bank accounts (which still need a password), but no bitcoin or other crypto. That's not so strange I think.

I mean, if you get mugged and you have maybe $200 in cash on you, they will take your money and they may take the phone (which they will just sell anyway) but they're not going to bother finding out what is on that phone.

Exactly. The best thing is to not even signal that you own any bitcoin:

1. Don't store bitcoin in a wallet on your phone.

2. Don't have bitcoin screen savers on your phone/laptop/desktop.

3. Don't wear bitcoin related t-shirts, socks, ball caps, etc.

4. Don't have bitcoin coffee mugs, posters, framed art, etc. strewn about your house.

5. Don't incessantly talk about bitcoin with strangers.

6. And for gods sake, do NOT run about with a license plate that says BITCOIN, BTCLOVE, CRYPTOZ, etc.

They won't want or try to steal what they don't think you own.

... aaaand if you did one of the foolish things above it's not too late: 1. stop doing it 2. there's always a good old boating accident   Wink
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I will say one thing though: we will never achieve mass adoption of Bitcoin until storing and using crypto is as easy as having and using a bank account online. The masses will never jump through all these technological hoops in order to adopt bitcoin. They are too afraid of fucking something up and getting hacked.

The key to that is a change in mentality. Which is going to take a loss of trust in the financial system as handled by the various governments.

So probably not long now then.
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