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About LN, very interesting posts there, especially the long one by hisslyness (many thanks to him). I also remember Bob's struggle with LN some years back.

I don't know... I've never set up a LN node or anything, so I can't have an informed opinion, but the feeling I get by reading about it, is that it looks cool, simple, fast, cheap on the outside, but is quite complicated and messy on the inside. Also, the constant need for pampering the node, in order for it to function properly, is not good. These are not good signs, and I fear that they may cause problems for its future/success. I hope I'm totally wrong on this.

The whole thing brings back memories of Mike Hearn's blog post where he declares he's abandoning the Bitcoin project, and even jbreher's transaction limit posts here in WO... Don't get me wrong, I'm totally in favor of 2nd-layer solutions for micro-transactions and believe this is the future, but I sense that something may not be quite right (yet) in the current state of affairs in this matter. Just thinking out loud...

Yes, LN has been undergoing ever-increasing rounds of complexity as it seeks to provide what Bitcoin does on-chain off-chain. There are all sorts of caveats, gotchas and pitfalls and the need to settle on-chain introduces some interesting limitations as discussed by Peter Rizun and the scope creep has been quite large also (LN was originally envisioned for micro-transactions). Unfortunately, the censorship initiated by Theymos also removed a lot of the warning voices regarding potential issues with LN from the community and a largely sanitized presentation has prevailed. Hisslyness's post of his experiences is not too unexpected really.

I'm not going to make the obvious argument here because it's not helpful in context. It would be nice if LN could succeed but it seems to be very much an example of second system syndrome.
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Thx for the "be good wishes"...

Going home today  Cool
Waiting for your and Bitcoins speedy recovery mate Smiley
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When causing a 3-4% Dip

Or thinking he’s the one who caused it…. BTC not affected !
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We’re getting damn close to “shit or get off the pot” time for Bitcoin’s price. I think we’re going to see a big move towards the end of October and expect we’ll see a new all time high by November 2nd. Maybe that will be en route to a $200,000 Bitcoin exchange rate by the second week of December. Any variation from this path would have me getting concerned.

Would be awesome….

But if not like this, then “concerned” ??

That’s a bit hard imo…
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Thx for the "be good wishes"...

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Get well soon bro… have a speedy recovery like bitcoin…!!!
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https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/how-to-profit-on-bitcoin-easily

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https://twitter.com/fillippone1/status/1441702678099341313?s=20

Chinese Government made themselves hodler by law!


Of course, LOL is referred to my own Twitter loneliness, not the proper Chinese Government

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LOL!

https://twitter.com/fillippone1/status/1441702678099341313?s=20

Chinese Government made themselves hodler by law!


Of course, LOL is referred to my own Twitter loneliness, not the proper Chinese Government

The only fools are the panic sellers who sell away at these types of China FUD and weak hands selling off to the strong ones again.

China be like : Ban all the people to hold bitcoin and then accumulate more yourself and gain more in the long run.Same chinese CCP worse policies to curb freedom and profits.
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https://twitter.com/fillippone1/status/1441702678099341313?s=20

Chinese Government made themselves hodler by law!


Of course, LOL is referred to my own Twitter loneliness, not the proper Chinese Government


wow that's something people need to keep an eye on...

That'q equivalent to $8,322,404,632.50

I'm sure this is just another way to gobble up more bitcoins.
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I don't know... I've never set up a LN node or anything, so I can't have an informed opinion, but the feeling I get by reading about it, is that it looks cool, simple, fast, cheap on the outside, but is quite complicated and messy on the inside. Also, the constant need for pampering the node, in order for it to function properly, is not good. These are not good signs, and I fear that they may cause problems for its future/success. I hope I'm totally wrong on this.

This is an inherent flaw (how big or small it remains to be seen) in LN. Channel usage is somewhat random, so all channels will tend to unbalance. When a channel is balanced, funds can move in both directions. Unbalanced, only one direction. Balancing can be automated but incurs fees that could be significant. If you know the nodes you're connected to, you can manually set your fees to zero and rebalance then set the fees back up. Ideally, this could be automated as it benefits all parties involved.
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https://twitter.com/fillippone1/status/1441702678099341313?s=20

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I can only say AHA LOL Grin
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https://twitter.com/fillippone1/status/1441702678099341313?s=20

Chinese Government made themselves hodler by law!


Of course, LOL is referred to my own Twitter loneliness, not the proper Chinese Government


Interesting, but this chart on KevinRook.com (or whatever it is) is squirrely in multiple ways. (Maybe just outdated?) A few points I noted,
1) It's valuing BTC at about $55k (mental math estimates)
2) El Salvador's 700BTC is not on the list
3) Saylor's MicroStrategy BTC stash is higher than US governments in BTC but lower in $$ value?
4) At the bottom of the list is Elon Musk with 0.25BTC (cute, but probably not accurate)
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