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[serveria.com]

ATH this week, what do you think boys?

Seemingly getting stuck at $63,000 atm. Would love a big, thick, veiny green dildo to take us to $70,000.

#nohomo

Sounds exciting ... #nohomo 

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[El duderino_]

Lol

[Dabs]

Accidental leak reveals US government has secretly hit Google with 'keyword warrants' to identify ANYONE searching certain names, addresses, and phone numbers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10063665/Government-orders-Google-track-searching-certain-names-addresses-phone-numbers.html

This would explain why Google has been blocking TOR searches with endless capchas. I thought it was just profitz.

I've stopped using Google as a search engine on the consumer side. My default now has been duckduckgo for awhile, maybe the past 5 years or so. Try it. Set all your browsers on all your devices to use the duck and just delete or remove google. You won't miss it.

[ChartBuddy]

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[AlcoHoDL]

Have been skimming through WO posts lately, too much happening IRL. I didn't quite get what happened to you, was it a motorcycle accident? Bike thrown in a ditch or what? Anyways, hope you get well soon man, fuck the bike, you can buy 10 of them soon. Stay safe!

LOL, no, got wasted and dropped it on my lawn when I got home last night and pulled my back out picking it up in the dark so left it lying there all night.

Good to know it was a LOLable thing. Motorcycle accidents can be nasty (I have a Yamaha and I've had a couple of them, still have the bike and keep it in pristine condition). Bitcoiners' bodies are far too precious to risk having them injured by bikes. I find myself using the car much more often lately (it's age-related too, I'm not so young anymore)...

ATH this week, what do you think boys?

Seemingly getting stuck at $63,000 atm. Would love a big, thick, veiny green dildo to take us to $70,000.

#nohomo

I like the sound of that.

[lightfoot]

I've stopped using Google as a search engine on the consumer side. My default now has been duckduckgo for awhile, maybe the past 5 years or so. Try it. Set all your browsers on all your devices to use the duck and just delete or remove google. You won't miss it.

Indeed. I remember living Google's motto of "Don't be evil". Their advantage over Altavista and Jeeves and such was a very quick clean page, honest data without insane pay to play weighting, and a pretty good culture of privacy. Now they have none of that and are just another yahoo/altavista shit site.

Still, it was interesting to see them lock out TOR end nodes. Which as I said now makes sense as they are just another Organ of the State. :-)

[Torque]

Lol

Yeah, and that SOB also raised tesla prices by another $5k.

Something something inflation, "supply chain constraints", blah blah.

What a racket.

[d_eddie]

Tesla: irrelevant in the long run. Everyone and their dogs are making electric or at least hybrid cars already. Let Tesla turn into Netscape.

China: very relevant in the long run. I hope their last-and-totally-un-undoable-bitcoin-ban hits them where it hurts. Give it time, and it sure will.

[ChartBuddy]

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[eddie13]

Accidental leak reveals US government has secretly hit Google with 'keyword warrants' to identify ANYONE searching certain names, addresses, and phone numbers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10063665/Government-orders-Google-track-searching-certain-names-addresses-phone-numbers.html

This would explain why Google has been blocking TOR searches with endless capchas. I thought it was just profitz.

I've stopped using Google as a search engine on the consumer side. My default now has been duckduckgo for awhile, maybe the past 5 years or so. Try it. Set all your browsers on all your devices to use the duck and just delete or remove google. You won't miss it.

Even they were just busted red handed not hiring people because they are white..

[psycodad]

Accidental leak reveals US government has secretly hit Google with 'keyword warrants' to identify ANYONE searching certain names, addresses, and phone numbers

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10063665/Government-orders-Google-track-searching-certain-names-addresses-phone-numbers.html

This would explain why Google has been blocking TOR searches with endless capchas. I thought it was just profitz.

I've stopped using Google as a search engine on the consumer side. My default now has been duckduckgo for awhile, maybe the past 5 years or so. Try it. Set all your browsers on all your devices to use the duck and just delete or remove google. You won't miss it.

I agree, I did the same some months ago and I also use a combined squid+privoxy+tor installation to route a whole bunch of domains strictly over tor for our whole network.

For the user the experience is at first a bit confusing, mostly because duckduckgo doesn't personalize results. So often users feel at first that the result quality is worse than google. People got used to the fact that google knows pretty much what they are searching for before they enter the first character into the searchbox, so they either lost or never developed skills to properly search in a text index. I.e. they enter "I want to make an applepie" instead of "recipe apple pie".

Oh and yes, if LEO has a warrant for you, google will happily send them your search history of up to 20yrs back! They can identify you over dozens of devices because they are basically sitting in almost every single web page with google-analytics, google-fonts and whatnot. Ever wondered why you are not allowed to download these friggin fonts for example?

I am currently reading (or trying to, it is written in a quite sophisticated and academic-sounding english) Shoshana Zuboff's 'The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for the Future at the New Frontier of Power' - it gives you a good idea on what google's business model is and how it works. She argues for example that if you are not a customer, you are the product is wrong, in case of google you are just a resource to harvest to them.

Soshana also appears a few times in The Social Dilemma which I highly recommend if you are unclear about the real purpose and goals of facebook and co.

But then again, if you have nothing to hide and are prepared to explain every single search you did in the last 20yrs, google is fine and on top of that not evil.
On the other hand if the search engine has nothing to hide is not evil, it let's you access it via tor.. (which DDG does)

[sirazimuth]

Tom Brady to fan… “Thanx for giving me back that football. Here, have a bitcoin, it’s worth over $60K! “
Fan…”bitcoin? Wtf do I do with a bitcoin?… Just gimme the $60K, thank you….”

[philipma1957]

Tesla: irrelevant in the long run. Everyone and their dogs are making electric or at least hybrid cars already. Let Tesla turn into Netscape.

China: very relevant in the long run. I hope their last-and-totally-un-undoable-bitcoin-ban hits them where it hurts. Give it time, and it sure will.

Telsa's money will be in the battery packs as he will produce them on a car or truck chassis for other companies.

He serves a purpose but he really could use some guidance on how to wield his influence.

"The dream would be mine a golden asteroid .
Drop it on the moon.
Build a huge solar plant using golden batteries
Develop a magnetic elevator from the moon to the earth.
transporting all that cheap gold down here.

Golden rechargeable batteries would last 50 to 100 years.
Common gold would replace copper wire. As it is far superior metal for electrical purposes.

The above example while very Sy-Fi could happen.

IF it does Gold drops as a long term  value  storage .

And BTC takes over. "

When I play this in my mind and see it as possible in 30 years time I only wish I was 20 again. Rather then 64.

This idea would mean BTC needs to go up at least 10x in the next 10 years and maybe 100x by 2050

[BitcoinBunny]

Tesla: irrelevant in the long run. Everyone and their dogs are making electric or at least hybrid cars already. Let Tesla turn into Netscape.

China: very relevant in the long run. I hope their last-and-totally-un-undoable-bitcoin-ban hits them where it hurts. Give it time, and it sure will.

Tesla's market is probably in the software (and as has been pointed out perhaps also battery and charge network).
I could see EVs running off Tesla's EV operating system or something like that and you pay them for charging.
Having said that if you can run an EV for 300miles on a charge I doubt I would have to charge it away from home much, maybe a couple of times per year tops.

After all the crap Musk pulled I'm more curious to see what Subaru comes up with their Solterra.

I like to not feel as if my bare ass is grinding on the ground at 80mph. Our roads are terrible in the UK. I doubt a Tesla would cut it beyond the motorways with regards to comfort.

Their too cheap to add air / (or any decent) suspension to their 1 BTC cars. Fuck that and their China-esque leader.

"We like BTC - we don't like BTC - we like BTC - we don't like BTC."

Make up your fucking mind.

[Lucius]

Lol

It just means that Mr.Mars has refilled his bags and will re-use his influence to inflate the price and sell 10% or more of the BTC he has bought so far. Incredibly, this news fits perfectly with "China is considering unban Bitcoin", and at a time when Tesla has stopped accepting BTC, China has launched another in a series of its "Bitcoin is banned" news.

If by some miracle the Chinese allow BTC mining again, should we even think about what Mr. Mars will do in that case?

[ChartBuddy]

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[Dabs]

I've stopped using Google as a search engine on the consumer side. My default now has been duckduckgo for awhile, maybe the past 5 years or so. Try it. Set all your browsers on all your devices to use the duck and just delete or remove google. You won't miss it.

Indeed. I remember living Google's motto of "Don't be evil". Their advantage over Altavista and Jeeves and such was a very quick clean page, honest data without insane pay to play weighting, and a pretty good culture of privacy. Now they have none of that and are just another yahoo/altavista shit site.

Still, it was interesting to see them lock out TOR end nodes. Which as I said now makes sense as they are just another Organ of the State. :-)

There is a long way work-around if you insist on using sites that don't like Tor end nodes, that is to use another node after Tor (like a VPN or some other VPS site RDP or whatever). But in the case of Google as a search engine, I don't bother as I've simply stopped using it. There are a few non-bitcoin forums (on proboards and such) that don't like Tor end nodes, so I use my work VPN (which I know is tracked by my company, but better them than whoever else.) Not that I don't want to use my own ip for that particular forum, but out of habit, as I've either always used Tor or something else or was in another country altogether.

Unlike, for example, this forum, bitcointalk, which is always over Tor, again out of habit, and because I have no issues with it here, mostly.

[El duderino_]

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[d_eddie]

I agree, I did the same some months ago and I also use a combined squid+privoxy+tor installation to route a whole bunch of domains strictly over tor for our whole network.

Care to share some details about squid+privoxy setup?

I am currently reading (or trying to, it is written in a quite sophisticated and academic-sounding english) Shoshana Zuboff's 'The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for the Future at the New Frontier of Power' - it gives you a good idea on what google's business model is and how it works. She argues for example that if you are not a customer, you are the product is wrong, in case of google you are just a resource to harvest to them.

Soshana also appears a few times in The Social Dilemma which I highly recommend if you are unclear about the real purpose and goals of facebook and co.

I'll get The Age of Surveillance Capitalism. I'll also check out The Social Dilemma. Thanks for the pointers!

[ChartBuddy]

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