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[BitcoinBunny]

I was shouted down the other day for moaning about international politics and also "debunked - because they are poor" for warning a massive emigration wave going to come from Ukraine to the west (they won't just stop over in Poland for a few days if you're thinking that).

I truly find it astonishing that some of you are in Bitcoin at all since you can't seem to think even a few days ahead or simply have a problem with deviating from Bitcoin jokes, memes and let's face it mostly nonsense.

We have seen massive international problems by far have the biggest effects on Bitcoin's price over the last few years surely.
 
 

The further Putin goes towards western Ukraine the lower BTC's price will go.

Putin has massive number of troops stationed in Belarus also. The world mostly ignored his slow invasion / dealings of and with former USSR countries.

I even saw some imbecilic commentator use Brexit as an excuse why this is happening now. It is NOT just a pattern of the last few years at all. Remember Crimea?


Simply put; for the majority of investors BTC at this moment is a speculative asset, not a safe heaven.

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[somac.]

why bitcoin is the weakest link among stocks, etc., though?
idk

it surely goes down fast at any sign of trouble....then recovers fast, of course.

Market opening times, maybe?
Or do we talk weekly?

My comment on the situation: fuck Putin! 

Na, fuck all of them. This is a fuck up that extends all the way back to the end of the Soviet Union. Putin was just a result of that fuck up. Will we ever learn? It seems the answer is No.

Merited both of you, because both of you are right, somehow.
Fuck warmongers.

warmongers of all sides have been running things forever, it sucks man. The elites get rich and the poor die for their riches.

[Toxic2040]

I dont know.

Maybe there is someway past this cyclic idiocy. If only there was someway to disengage from the fiat ran MIC's and politicians in the pockets of the oil cartels. The same play from the same playbook ad nauseam. Scare the general population with inflation and the threat of war...raise oil prices...short stonks. Have a little skirmish in some shithole third world country so blame can be cast elsewhere.

This has to change.

[somac.]

I was shouted down the other day for moaning about international politics and also "debunked - because they are poor" for warning a massive emigration wave going to come from Ukraine to the west (they won't just stop over in Poland for a few days if you're thinking that).

I truly find it astonishing that some of you are in Bitcoin at all since you can't seem to think even a few days ahead or simply have a problem with deviating from Bitcoin jokes, memes and let's face it mostly nonsense.

We have seen massive international problems by far have the biggest effects on Bitcoin's price over the last few years surely.
 
 

The further Putin goes towards western Ukraine the lower BTC's price will go.

For the majority of investors BTC at this moment is a speculative asset, not a safe heaven.

Lets wait to see what the sanctions are, then more importantly the central banks response.

[Paashaas]

Russian stock market tanked with almost 30%.

There will be no world war 3 ore a total war that requires a long build up fase with factories transforming into producing war materials, millions of men joining the army, securing resources, war cabinets etc..and i don't see that happening.

Russia has no change against NATO otherwise he already took out the Baltic states.

Anyway, i had a nice breakfast with a pre-work out drink, going to the gym for a 2-hour workout.

[BitcoinBunny]

I was shouted down the other day for moaning about international politics and also "debunked - because they are poor" for warning a massive emigration wave going to come from Ukraine to the west (they won't just stop over in Poland for a few days if you're thinking that).

I truly find it astonishing that some of you are in Bitcoin at all since you can't seem to think even a few days ahead or simply have a problem with deviating from Bitcoin jokes, memes and let's face it mostly nonsense.

We have seen massive international problems by far have the biggest effects on Bitcoin's price over the last few years surely.
 
 

The further Putin goes towards western Ukraine the lower BTC's price will go.

For the majority of investors BTC at this moment is a speculative asset, not a safe heaven.

Lets wait to see what the sanctions are, then more importantly the central banks response.

Putin is in a decent position having become the gas cow for a large part of Europe because of green policies.

"If it's not in my back yard then it's clean I guess."

China is in a decent position also to do what it likes having secured major industry that slowly is taking in all car manufacturing also.

We have seen that international fiat tools have become less meaningful due to ridiculous inflation partly and the politically influenced central banks.

Sure, I am surprised BTC isn't doing better in this light, but it is what it is.


I expect possible further dumpage once the majority of Americans wake up to the news.
Or perhaps that is already priced in right now with auto trading bots.
Who knows what the fuck goes on with the price exactly.

Certainly can't go by these YouTube commentators anymore. They have been proven wrong mostly and only ever rode off the hype to gain followers for themselves.
A bit like a shitcoin I guess.

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[JayJuanGee]

I was shouted down the other day for moaning about international politics and also "debunked - because they are poor" for warning a massive emigration wave going to come from Ukraine to the west (they won't just stop over in Poland for a few days if you're thinking that).

I truly find it astonishing that some of you are in Bitcoin at all since you can't seem to think even a few days ahead or simply have a problem with deviating from Bitcoin jokes, memes and let's face it mostly nonsense.

We have seen massive international problems by far have the biggest effects on Bitcoin's price over the last few years surely.
 
 

The further Putin goes towards western Ukraine the lower BTC's price will go.

Putin has massive number of troops stationed in Belarus also. The world mostly ignored his slow invasion / dealings of and with former USSR countries.

I even saw some imbecilic commentator use Brexit as an excuse why this is happening now. It is NOT just a pattern of the last few years at all. Remember Crimea?


Simply put; for the majority of investors BTC at this moment is a speculative asset, not a safe heaven.

Part of the internet happens to be the postings of various people who have differing opinions... to the extent that actual people exist on the other side of such keyboards.

I think that we have quite a few people in these here parts... absent  sirazimuth and JimboToronto... other than that, we are mostly peeps, here... maybe Hueristic, too.. he does not really seem like a real peep... #justsaying

Do you want to tell us that you were right all along?  

I am not sure how helpful that is....


Do you want to tell us that you sold 50% of your BTC stash because the discussion of bitcoin is meaningless and you want UPpity otherwise, it is not fun enough?  and/or that you want to buy more cheaper because you know what is going to happen in the future that other people (the market) does not know?  Good luck with supposedly knowing things.. because sometimes the future ends up playing out in ways that are not quite as expected, even if you tell us after the fact that you knew all along...  

Also, for sure doom and gloom has not always worked out for those who sold much if any of their stash after there had already been nearly a 50% correction.. so well, there could be various risks in taking rash actions.. but hey.. you do you.   We might end up getting another 5% or 10% dip.. perhaps? perhaps? or we might get a 80% dip from here ( I kind of doubt it), but any of us can decide if we feel that it might be prudent to shave some off.. but careful about doing a mindrust.. remember how certain he was after a near 50% drop that had been followed by earlier drops... and he was sure that the BTC price was going to fall 50% more.

Are you wanting to tell us that bitcoin does not matter anymore because the world is falling apart?  What else is new?  The world seems to always be falling apart in one way or another.   I do still think that bitcoin matters and the discussion of the topics in this thread are important and that's why many of us regulars participate in this thread.. rage quit?  perhaps?

[El duderino_]

Russian stock market tanked with almost 30%.

There will be no world war 3 ore a total war that requires a long build up fase with factories transforming into producing war materials, millions of men joining the army, securing resources, war cabinets etc..and i don't see that happening.

Russia has no change against NATO otherwise he already took out the Baltic states.

Anyway, i had a nice breakfast with a pre-work out drink, going to the gym for a 2-hour workout.

Gonna join bro …. This CF thing really clears my head

Program for today=




Only starting with the deadlifts

Pre workout drink @9.45, class starts at 10.15 cheers

[serveria.com]

The further Putin goes towards western Ukraine the lower BTC's price will go.

I'm not quite sure about that. There are reports of people queuing at the ATMs (while the banking system works) why wouldn't all those people flee to BTC? Also Russia's ruble is tanking so why not use BTC for savings? Let's HODL and see...  

[BitcoinBunny]

I was shouted down the other day for moaning about international politics and also "debunked - because they are poor" for warning a massive emigration wave going to come from Ukraine to the west (they won't just stop over in Poland for a few days if you're thinking that).

I truly find it astonishing that some of you are in Bitcoin at all since you can't seem to think even a few days ahead or simply have a problem with deviating from Bitcoin jokes, memes and let's face it mostly nonsense.

We have seen massive international problems by far have the biggest effects on Bitcoin's price over the last few years surely.
 
 

The further Putin goes towards western Ukraine the lower BTC's price will go.

Putin has massive number of troops stationed in Belarus also. The world mostly ignored his slow invasion / dealings of and with former USSR countries.

I even saw some imbecilic commentator use Brexit as an excuse why this is happening now. It is NOT just a pattern of the last few years at all. Remember Crimea?


Simply put; for the majority of investors BTC at this moment is a speculative asset, not a safe heaven.

Part of the internet happens to be the postings of various people who have differing opinions... to the extent that actual people exist on the other side of such keyboards.

I think that we have quite a few people in these here parts... absent  sirazimuth and JimboToronto... other than that, we are mostly peeps.

Do you want to tell us that you were right all along? 

I am not sure how helpful that is....


Do you want to tell us that you sold 50% of your BTC stash because the discussion of bitcoin is meaningless and you want UPpity otherwise, it is not fun enough?  and/or that you want to buy more cheaper because you know what is going to happen in the future that other people (the market) does not know?  Good luck with supposedly knowing things.. because sometimes the future ends up playing out in ways that are not quite as expected, even if you tell us after the fact that you knew all along... 

Also, for sure doom and gloom has not always worked out for those who sold much if any of their stash after there had already been nearly a 50% correction.. so well, there could be various risks in taking rash actions.. but hey.. you do you.   We might end up getting another 5% or 10% dip.. perhaps? perhaps? or we might get a 80% dip from here ( I kind of doubt it), but any of us can decide if we feel that it might be prudent to shave some off.. but careful about doing a mindrust.. remember how certain he was after a near 50% drop that had been followed by earlier drops... and he was sure that the BTC price was going to fall 50% more.

Are you wanting to tell us that bitcoin does not matter anymore because the world is falling apart?  What else is new?  The world seems to always be falling apart in one way or another.   I do still think that bitcoin matters and the discussion of the topics in this thread are important and that's why many of us regulars participate in this thread.. rage quit?  perhaps?

Nope, I won't sell. In that light actions speak louder than words.
The only exchange I have dealt with now wants me to fill out personal data stuff, which I didn't do so I guess I can't sell until I would do that (which I won't) anyway.

[serveria.com]

why bitcoin is the weakest link among stocks, etc., though?
idk

it surely goes down fast at any sign of trouble....then recovers fast, of course.

Market opening times, maybe?
Or do we talk weekly?

My comment on the situation: fuck Putin! 

Na, fuck all of them. This is a fuck up that extends all the way back to the end of the Soviet Union. Putin was just a result of that fuck up. Will we ever learn? It seems the answer is No.

Merited both of you, because both of you are right, somehow.
Fuck warmongers.

Yes indeed. Fuck both sides of this madness. My reaction was due to myself seeing the price of BTC... 

[serveria.com]

Kind Daddy is slowly recovering after this war news shock.. no but really: how retarded you need to be to sell into this war dump? 

I just can't imagine peeps waking up in the morning and OMG WW3 has started! Gotta sell my BTC now! Muahaha... 

[BitcoinBunny]

Kind Daddy is slowly recovering after this war news shock.. no but really: how retarded you need to be to sell into this war dump?  

I just can't imagine peeps waking up in the morning and OMG WW3 has started! Gotta sell my BTC now! Muahaha...  

I was thinking there might be more dumpage when the Americans wake up but perhaps that is already priced in.
Could be rumours but headlines updated right now speak of many casualties and further threats from old Vlad. - I doubt western media would ever play things down even this is an exaggeration, too much ad revenue involved.
But could BTC go below 30K?  

I have no idea how the money moves so fast.

Many have suggested auto trading bots.

[El duderino_]

When to BTD at this point….

Recovery could happen fast, but have we seen the bottom-ish prices or not ….

[JayJuanGee]

I was shouted down the other day for moaning about international politics and also "debunked - because they are poor" for warning a massive emigration wave going to come from Ukraine to the west (they won't just stop over in Poland for a few days if you're thinking that).

I truly find it astonishing that some of you are in Bitcoin at all since you can't seem to think even a few days ahead or simply have a problem with deviating from Bitcoin jokes, memes and let's face it mostly nonsense.

We have seen massive international problems by far have the biggest effects on Bitcoin's price over the last few years surely.
 
 

The further Putin goes towards western Ukraine the lower BTC's price will go.

Putin has massive number of troops stationed in Belarus also. The world mostly ignored his slow invasion / dealings of and with former USSR countries.

I even saw some imbecilic commentator use Brexit as an excuse why this is happening now. It is NOT just a pattern of the last few years at all. Remember Crimea?


Simply put; for the majority of investors BTC at this moment is a speculative asset, not a safe heaven.

Part of the internet happens to be the postings of various people who have differing opinions... to the extent that actual people exist on the other side of such keyboards.

I think that we have quite a few people in these here parts... absent  sirazimuth and JimboToronto... other than that, we are mostly peeps.

Do you want to tell us that you were right all along?  

I am not sure how helpful that is....


Do you want to tell us that you sold 50% of your BTC stash because the discussion of bitcoin is meaningless and you want UPpity otherwise, it is not fun enough?  and/or that you want to buy more cheaper because you know what is going to happen in the future that other people (the market) does not know?  Good luck with supposedly knowing things.. because sometimes the future ends up playing out in ways that are not quite as expected, even if you tell us after the fact that you knew all along...  

Also, for sure doom and gloom has not always worked out for those who sold much if any of their stash after there had already been nearly a 50% correction.. so well, there could be various risks in taking rash actions.. but hey.. you do you.   We might end up getting another 5% or 10% dip.. perhaps? perhaps? or we might get a 80% dip from here ( I kind of doubt it), but any of us can decide if we feel that it might be prudent to shave some off.. but careful about doing a mindrust.. remember how certain he was after a near 50% drop that had been followed by earlier drops... and he was sure that the BTC price was going to fall 50% more.

Are you wanting to tell us that bitcoin does not matter anymore because the world is falling apart?  What else is new?  The world seems to always be falling apart in one way or another.   I do still think that bitcoin matters and the discussion of the topics in this thread are important and that's why many of us regulars participate in this thread.. rage quit?  perhaps?

Nope, I won't sell. In that light actions speak louder than words.
The only exchange I have dealt with now wants me to fill out personal data stuff, which I didn't do so I guess I can't sell until I would do that (which I won't) anyway.

My response was a bit strong to you.. because I did read some rage quit vibes and also some "I told you so" vibes.. which each of those kinds of vibes tends to rub me in a way that causes my own reactive issues... there is always some level of uncertainty and frequently the BTC price does not go which way we want it or expect it to go.. at least not all of us.

Regarding liquidation or even being able to reduce exposure.  I always figured that any of us should have a few different ways to get out of bitcoin.. but we see that sometimes the various exchanges change their rules.. and then there might be questions about other ways to liquidate, or if we just want to hold the bitcoin in another form (such as something that is dollar pegged.. at least in the short term).. but yeah, over the years, I have had so many liquidation avenues dry up.. and sometimes there are needs to attempt to establish new ones.. not always easy... especially if a lot of value might be involved that might need to cash out and need some certainty bout getting it... sometimes worse in times that you really might need it.

I am thinking that 5-10 years in the future there will be way more liquidation options.. and maybe that is why some guys here are spending so much time playing around with lightning network.. in order to have more potential options.. when they might need them.

Kind Daddy is slowly recovering after this war news shock.. no but really: how retarded you need to be to sell into this war dump?  

I just can't imagine peeps waking up in the morning and OMG WW3 has started! Gotta sell my BTC now! Muahaha...  

Maybe part of the reason that the dumping is not over?

I don't claim to know whether our little $1k bounce up from our current $34,324 bottom is anywhere close enough to being able to rest in peace that this particular "bottom is in.".. way too early to know in terms of both time and quantity of price distance.

[OutOfMemory]

When to BTD at this point….

Recovery could happen fast, but have we seen the bottom-ish prices or not ….

"Serious" analyst targets are projected around $32k since ATH.
I didn't believe it myself at that time, but so far it seems to play out.
#NFA

[machasm]

....So... Putin just invaded Donbass.

Bitcoin might take dive. Maybe. MAYBE.

The next 24 hours are critical

Gold goes up, whilst bitcoin (digital gold) goes down. Illogical.

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/global-markets-unravel-putin-launches-military-operation

This tells me that people still don't understand what bitcoin truly is.
This is precisely what bitcoin was invented for ffs.

[OgNasty]

When to BTD at this point….

Recovery could happen fast, but have we seen the bottom-ish prices or not ….

$33K seems pretty much inevitable at this point.  The chart looks an awful lot like $10K could be in the cards, which would represent a pretty massive change in Bitcoin's up only trajectory.  Personally, I'd be pretty cautious here with cash on the sidelines.  With the Fed looking to raise rates sending home prices teetering on the brink of collapse, the stock market overheated, and war potentially breaking out, it seems the downside risk is higher than the upside reward at the moment.  It sure feels exactly the same as 2018 to me.  I only wish we could have gotten our blowoff top in the six digit range so it would have been obvious this cycle had topped.  The only real sign we had was Saylor saying Bitcoin would go up forever.

[aysg76]

When to BTD at this point….

Recovery could happen fast, but have we seen the bottom-ish prices or not ….

The dip supported by another dip maybe incoming and we should be ready for that.

The two way preparation needs to be done one is be ready with some extra fiat to invest in Bitcoin at some discounts again and second don't panic sell off in these situations and hold for long term.

Hope everything goes normal soon