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Happy Easter WO Gang!
Italy, the land formerly known for good, healthy, unprocessed food!



Did you think my hat was only a meme?

PS: No, bitcoin still not accepted. 


Happy Easter!


Is it busy? I have seen more and more of these pop up, and manage to stay open in Spain, they used to open them, and then close them again because they did not get much business.  Now in city centres they have managed to keep some open, and they are mainly full of kids or tourists though (why would you go to spain, or Italy as a tourist and eat MacDonalds?)   


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Avoid chicken if you can.

The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years.

Here is what this means for your health.

THREAD: https://twitter.com/mrsollozzo/status/1515324097223225345?s=21

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OT:

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The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years.

Here is what this means for your health.

THREAD: https://twitter.com/mrsollozzo/status/1515324097223225345?s=21



No worries here in the U.S. ....we are too busy "culling" millions of chickens due a sudden, unexpected (*cough* plandemic) bird flu outbreak. Causing chicken and egg prices to skyrocket (but not due to insane inflation and farmers going bankrupt, no no, can't be that).  Roll Eyes

https://scitechdaily.com/us-bird-flu-outbreak-is-killing-millions-of-chickens-and-turkeys/

Nothing to see here, move along.
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OT:

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The chicken you are eating has increased 364% in size over the last 50 years.

Here is what this means for your health.

THREAD: https://twitter.com/mrsollozzo/status/1515324097223225345?s=21




True story... some of the tastiest chicken I have ever eaten, was in Thailand, and they looked far far more like the 1957 chicken in the picture above...  running around one minute , then snap, pluck, cook... tasty as fuck.
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We provide brand new antminer for bitcoin and orther cryto currency only one address probablyascam.com

So You want to sell antminer on the Wall observer thread with a brand new account?


I think most people here know better, but for those who do not it bears repeating that anyone who is interested in buying mining hardware off some sketchy site from some shady newbie account is just begging to fall victim to spyware/malware.

Remember, there are people here hunting for suckers. And they will scam you if they can, of your passwords, private keys and coins. Don't be a fool, Stay safe.

This kind of nonsense is because you kids are not used to the old ways of using cash on delivery. You pay an extra 5 bucks or how much they ask of you for this 'pay on delivery' method, and also you get to open the package before you pay them anything. If you did not get your stuff, they have to return their empty box full of used tampons.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Well not sure how Cash on Delivery works in many place but based on my experience in few different places, once the package reaches your home you have to pay for it. Before you open or even evaluate and if you want to reject the receiving, still the delivery person or company will insist on taking the package, do the payment and then start the refund process.

The delivery company or person won’t take any responsibility for the package or what’s inside the package. Once they deliver you have to pay for it.

Never heard of that law (or responsibility of a receiver of an item..).

My understanding is that if you receive something that you had not paid for it is yours.

In other words, you better make sure that you receive payment before shipping something.. otherwise you may well be shit out of luck.

Sure a lot of people return things that they had received and not paid for, but I doubt that the law requires them to do it, especially if they had not requested it, and it just shows up at their door.  Seems to me that if you have not requested something and it gets shipped to you, then you may as well consider it to be a gift....
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There is no such thing as a “useful NFT”.
Read Torgue’s & Richy’s comments on that, again.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that there couldn't be a 'useful' NFT, just that as when I saw Vitalik talking about smart contracts back in chicago many years ago, I think the potential use cases are a lot narrower than is being hyped. (The whole "buying hashes of pictures you don't own" is obviously complete BS though, of course).
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April 17, 2022, 02:10:27 PM

Happy Easter WO Gang!
Italy, the land formerly known for good, healthy, unprocessed food!



Did you think my hat was only a meme?

PS: No, bitcoin still not accepted. 

You mean ground beef, tomatosauce, cheese and pasta in a mix of your choise? Smiley

Sorry, couldn't resist, have a good easter!
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Is it busy? I have seen more and more of these pop up, and manage to stay open in Spain, they used to open them, and then close them again because they did not get much business.  Now in city centres they have managed to keep some open, and they are mainly full of kids or tourists though (why would you go to spain, or Italy as a tourist and eat MacDonalds?)   


When I was in Paris a good few years ago, there was a McDs near the arc that seemed to be quite busy. They've been all over the UK for donkey's years, of course.
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There is no such thing as a “useful NFT”.
Read Torgue’s & Richy’s comments on that, again.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that there couldn't be a 'useful' NFT, just that as when I saw Vitalik talking about smart contracts back in chicago many years ago, I think the potential use cases are a lot narrower than is being hyped. (The whole "buying hashes of pictures you don't own" is obviously complete BS though, of course).

I have no doubt that NFTs will be a big deal component of the upcoming Metaverse, or any other VR world coming soon. They are already planting the seeds and hype.

Since the young folks of the future won't have the means to own real world things of true value anymore, once they have convinced the pleebs that "owning" something in the Metaverse has supposed value, that's all she wrote. They'll all be clamoring for it: VR cars, VR yachts, VR real estate, VR clothes & jewelry, VR art pieces, VR vacations, etc., etc.

Hell, I could even see them creating a secondary stonk market that trades stonks of virtual companies and resources that exist only in the Metaverse. Probably somehow using the Ethereum scamchain.

Sound crazy? If I can sit here and dream up the absurd and insane, then I'm sure the scammers are already cooking it up as we speak and salivating. The scammers being Meta, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Nike, Coca-Cola, etc.

Real world things of value only for the elites to enjoy; VR goods only for the pleebs.
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April 17, 2022, 02:26:18 PM

We provide brand new antminer for bitcoin and orther cryto currency only one address probablyascam.com

So You want to sell antminer on the Wall observer thread with a brand new account?


I think most people here know better, but for those who do not it bears repeating that anyone who is interested in buying mining hardware off some sketchy site from some shady newbie account is just begging to fall victim to spyware/malware.

Remember, there are people here hunting for suckers. And they will scam you if they can, of your passwords, private keys and coins. Don't be a fool, Stay safe.

This kind of nonsense is because you kids are not used to the old ways of using cash on delivery. You pay an extra 5 bucks or how much they ask of you for this 'pay on delivery' method, and also you get to open the package before you pay them anything. If you did not get your stuff, they have to return their empty box full of used tampons.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Well not sure how Cash on Delivery works in many place but based on my experience in few different places, once the package reaches your home you have to pay for it. Before you open or even evaluate and if you want to reject the receiving, still the delivery person or company will insist on taking the package, do the payment and then start the refund process.

The delivery company or person won’t take any responsibility for the package or what’s inside the package. Once they deliver you have to pay for it.

Never heard of that law (or responsibility of a receiver of an item..).

My understanding is that if you receive something that you had not paid for it is yours.

In other words, you better make sure that you receive payment before shipping something.. otherwise you may well be shit out of luck.

Sure a lot of people return things that they had received and not paid for, but I doubt that the law requires them to do it, especially if they had not requested it, and it just shows up at their door.  Seems to me that if you have not requested something and it gets shipped to you, then you may as well consider it to be a gift....

But we are talking about Cash on Delivery… so if it shows up on you door you have to pay first before you get this “gift”.

And from the senders perspective, I guess that’s where the delivery companies comes and make sure for sender that they get paid. In the end receiver is in disadvantage if the delivery is not up to his expectations since the refund process can really be pain in the a**.
 

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We provide brand new antminer for bitcoin and orther cryto currency only one address probablyascam.com

So You want to sell antminer on the Wall observer thread with a brand new account?


I think most people here know better, but for those who do not it bears repeating that anyone who is interested in buying mining hardware off some sketchy site from some shady newbie account is just begging to fall victim to spyware/malware.

Remember, there are people here hunting for suckers. And they will scam you if they can, of your passwords, private keys and coins. Don't be a fool, Stay safe.

This kind of nonsense is because you kids are not used to the old ways of using cash on delivery. You pay an extra 5 bucks or how much they ask of you for this 'pay on delivery' method, and also you get to open the package before you pay them anything. If you did not get your stuff, they have to return their empty box full of used tampons.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Well not sure how Cash on Delivery works in many place but based on my experience in few different places, once the package reaches your home you have to pay for it. Before you open or even evaluate and if you want to reject the receiving, still the delivery person or company will insist on taking the package, do the payment and then start the refund process.

The delivery company or person won’t take any responsibility for the package or what’s inside the package. Once they deliver you have to pay for it.

Never heard of that law (or responsibility of a receiver of an item..).

My understanding is that if you receive something that you had not paid for it is yours.

In other words, you better make sure that you receive payment before shipping something.. otherwise you may well be shit out of luck.

Sure a lot of people return things that they had received and not paid for, but I doubt that the law requires them to do it, especially if they had not requested it, and it just shows up at their door.  Seems to me that if you have not requested something and it gets shipped to you, then you may as well consider it to be a gift....

But we are talking about Cash on Delivery… so if it shows up on you door you have to pay first before you get this “gift”.

And from the senders perspective, I guess that’s where the delivery companies comes and make sure for sender that they get paid. In the end receiver is in disadvantage if the delivery is not up to his expectations since the refund process can really be pain in the a**.
 



That's why you put them to open your box and show what is inside the box!  Cheesy  Cheesy
And if not, you say you don't give any money or you don't have money. And they have to take it back and you give them nothing.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

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We provide brand new antminer for bitcoin and orther cryto currency only one address probablyascam.com

So You want to sell antminer on the Wall observer thread with a brand new account?


I think most people here know better, but for those who do not it bears repeating that anyone who is interested in buying mining hardware off some sketchy site from some shady newbie account is just begging to fall victim to spyware/malware.

Remember, there are people here hunting for suckers. And they will scam you if they can, of your passwords, private keys and coins. Don't be a fool, Stay safe.

This kind of nonsense is because you kids are not used to the old ways of using cash on delivery. You pay an extra 5 bucks or how much they ask of you for this 'pay on delivery' method, and also you get to open the package before you pay them anything. If you did not get your stuff, they have to return their empty box full of used tampons.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Well not sure how Cash on Delivery works in many place but based on my experience in few different places, once the package reaches your home you have to pay for it. Before you open or even evaluate and if you want to reject the receiving, still the delivery person or company will insist on taking the package, do the payment and then start the refund process.

The delivery company or person won’t take any responsibility for the package or what’s inside the package. Once they deliver you have to pay for it.

Never heard of that law (or responsibility of a receiver of an item..).

My understanding is that if you receive something that you had not paid for it is yours.

In other words, you better make sure that you receive payment before shipping something.. otherwise you may well be shit out of luck.

Sure a lot of people return things that they had received and not paid for, but I doubt that the law requires them to do it, especially if they had not requested it, and it just shows up at their door.  Seems to me that if you have not requested something and it gets shipped to you, then you may as well consider it to be a gift....

But we are talking about Cash on Delivery… so if it shows up on you door you have to pay first before you get this “gift”.

And from the senders perspective, I guess that’s where the delivery companies comes and make sure for sender that they get paid. In the end receiver is in disadvantage if the delivery is not up to his expectations since the refund process can really be pain in the a**.
 



That's why you put them to open your box and show what is inside the box!  Cheesy  Cheesy
And if not, you say you don't give any money or you don't have money. And they have to take it back and you give them nothing.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes


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I mean, sure further down the line maybe "bitcoin fixes this" , but right now, would we want 30 odd million land registry records (just for England and wales, imagine globally) stored on the BTC chain ? and given the amendments/requests/new records that would be required, would it be economically feasible, given the idea is to reduce costs........perhaps or perhaps one day it would? , I would not be against it at all... longest oldest chain etc.. but perhaps that would just be a waste.




Interestingly enough, I see that Bitfury, have already rolled out a system which is in use today in conjunction with the gubermint of Georgia which does use BTC in a fashion for real estate registry. (It uses a private permissioned blockchain to collect all the data and execute the tx, and then publishes it to the Bitcoin blockchain for public verification)

So far has 300,000 properties supposedly recorded in this fashion.

"NAPR (which is charged with land registry in Georgia)  was able to provide Georgian citizens with digital certificates of their assets supported with a cryptographic proof (known as a hash). This hash was published to the Bitcoin Blockchain. This enabled the owner of the document to prove their legitimate ownership of the property by showing their timestamp. No one can alter the timestamp on the Bitcoin Blockchain, including NAPR.

Integrating this layer meant that information about a property title could not be altered, and that any attempted tampering would be equivalent to tampering with the Bitcoin Blockchain (making it publicly visible to everyone on the Bitcoin network)"

https://napr-gov-ge.translate.goog/udzravi?_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc

https://naprweb-reestri-gov-ge.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=ka&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=sc#/blockchain


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On another note, I decided last year that I would really like to travel to the country of Georgia, and spend some time there, given the 1 year visa free entry, and the interesting cultural melting pot that Georgia is, cheap prices of rent/food/wine etc, and the quality of awesome food and wine, and stunning scenery..... and to explore the rather interesting taxation situation especially for expats and especially for Crypto related business activities Wink  


..... not sure if its rational or not, but the current situation in Ukraine has put me off/ made me postpone, does look great though.  

Apparently the rents in Tbilisi have recently tripled for available properties due to an influx of 40,000+ Russians... though I do wonder if the rents have gone up ...just for the russians, as some of the houses I saw , are the same price now as they were pre the Russia/Ukraine situation.


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I do not know how much impact the Easter could bring, as there are analysts that say the price can lower more than $ 40k, this according to this article:

Bitcoin Clings To $40K On Easter Sunday As Crypto Seen To Head Lower In The Short Term

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As the holiday season began, the pair experienced little movement, as US equity markets were closed for the Lenten week, allowing crypto to avoid correlation-based volatility.

The price consolidation follows a week of bearish pressure that pushed the world’s most valuable cryptocurrency towards critical support levels



Source: https://www.newsbtc.com/crypto/bitcoin-clings-to-40000/

Of course, there is a similar analysis by cointelegraph:


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Analyzing market movements, Kevin Svenson, well known on social media for his bullish sentiment on BTC, warned that current chart behavior was mimicking the period just before Bitcoin's bear market crash in late 2018.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoin-holds-40k-over-easter-but-thin-liquidity-capitulation-risk-haunt-traders

I do not know how good is a comparison at this time with respect to 2018, but the circumstances in 2018 if they were very different from now.

For me the scenario is totally different, I would not know what I could pass, but if most believe it will go down, I am more to believe that the opposite will happen.
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After 3 vaccines (last one in December) I've finally lost my super powers and court covid . Don't want any sympathy as its just sore throat and runny nose. This is nothing compared with the Australian flu that nearly killed me 4 years ago

Hopefully it is not too bad for you, as it was not for me.  The vaccines were a failure for sure, in my opinion. Whole thing was about a week for me with the middle 3 days being the only really bad ones.  I think the most important bits are to stay hydrated, and don't exert yourself much... You'll probably be tired.

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Good morning and Happy Easter all


Did you know...

Ukrainians have been decorating eggs to celebrate the Gods and Goddesses of health and fertility for generations. This traditional act of pysanka is made by using wax and dyes.

This holiday was named after the Anglo-Saxon goddess, Eostre, who was depicted as the Goddess of Dawn and Light. She was honoured at Pagan festivals celebrating the arrival of spring.

The origin of the Easter Bunny dates back hundreds of years, beginning in pre-Christian Germany where a story was published in 1680 about a rabbit hiding eggs in a garden.

Easter Sunday can be anywhere between March 22 and April 25. The specific cycle that it goes through has so many factors affecting it that it takes a mind-bending 5.7 million years to repeat itself.
random interweb 'facts' pulled randomly...dyor

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Bitcoin trading near $40.4kish this morning on light holiday volume. Still moving sideways in a tight range between $41.5k and $39.5kish.


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