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April 26, 2022, 05:40:19 PM

But what do I Know According to JJG not much.

That's true.




Hey.. by the way.. even though you say some pretty dumb stuff from time to time.. you do say some smart stuff sometimes, too. #justsaying.

I suppose part of my ongoing annoyance is that you just seem to want to ongoingly get caught up on wild speculative tangents on a regular basis.. It's like the sorcerer wannabe syndrome.. and part of the problem would be getting into too many specifics on a regular and ongoing basis.. You seem unable to help ur lil selfie.  

In that regard, at this time, we cannot really know your regular levels of specifics in the future.. even though we might be able to figure out some directions that are more likely to play out than others, we still need some of the gaps to fill in before we can get into knowing some of the specifics that you end up liking to outline.. so  filling the gaps with a variety of assumptions that might or might not happen can sometimes be misleading and wanting to reach the answer way too soon... even though there is a chance that the ultimate speculation could end up coming out correctly and exactly as you said (but still would not take a way that you had filled in some of the gaps with guesses (even if somewhat educated guesses) - that you ended up randomly either getting correct.. or the matter/events that ended up filling in those gaps ended up contributing to  the causing of the same results that you had been speculating upon)... and for some reason, if you were to get the conclusion correct, then you still would seem to want to get credit for being able to predict the future with too many specifics.

Why does there seem to be such an ongoing and pressing need for you (of course, you are not the only one who does this) to want to ongoingly get into so many specifics about the various future scenarios?  I am not sure.


 3.125 btc --------2024
 1.5625 btc ------ 2028
 0.78125 btc ----- 2032
 0.390625 btc----- 2036
 0.1953125 btc --- 2040
 0.09765625 btc -- 2044
 0.038828125 btc - 2048 7  ½ ings away. I will be 91 and likely not care too much


So, am I the only one who noticed the typo? Didn't this happen before? Is it a copy and paste?

I doubt very many of us were getting into that level of granularity rather than just attempting to grapple with Philips overall doomy/gloomy point that likes to suggest that something is broken in bitcoin's mining incentive thing - even while he does not seem to account for enough facts (including even some less doomy and gloomy but logical directions of future mining incentives and also including some unknowns - that he cannot really account for but seems inclined to want to do it anyhow).

Upon review, I see that you must be talking about the 2048 bitcoin reward which should have been 0.04882812 BTC rather than 0.03882812 BTC...? which would be one of the reasons to go back and edit previous posts when substantive mistakes are pointed out... unless citing from another source.. then forgetting that there is a mistake in part of the substantive posts?


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my idle speculation on btc and doge futures was done to show why I think Elon Musk practice’s a dual approach to coins. Please remember that if you have over sixty billion in wealth playing with BTC and Doge makes perfect sense.

I would not dis Elon until he decides eth is the way to go then he could go fuck himself as eth is a sad joke of a coin.

Sure.  There can be some fair points in terms of trying to suss out and speculate on what might be motivating Elon...

Of course, you had made a bit of a funny reference in regards to how you and Elon might be thinking alike on aspects of the mining/rewards incentive topic, too. hahahahahaha  You gotta admit that some of the juxtaposing of doggie coin and bitcoin remain ridiculous in vary BIG ways and it is not really fair to even attempt to make any of us have to go down those kinds of nonsense comparative roads that would even have to closely attempt to treat that crap coin (though lots of funzies coin) seriously.

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#Bitcoin is on a journey from zero to zero. It was worthless in the beginning, and it will have no fiat value in the end.

https://twitter.com/dergigi/status/1518553872834379778?s=21

Ostensibly true. The question is whether that will be due to the complete abandonment of fiat or the heat death of the universe.

Why not both?
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But this absolute nuts, if anyone has been following the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard case..

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Milani Cosmetics just released a statement calling Amber out on her bullsh*t because that kit didn't come out until December 2017 and the alleged abuse was from 2014-2016..

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#Bitcoin is a one-way street
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#Bitcoin is on a journey from zero to zero. It was worthless in the beginning, and it will have no fiat value in the end.

https://twitter.com/dergigi/status/1518553872834379778?s=21

Ostensibly true. The question is whether that will be due to the complete abandonment of fiat or the heat death of the universe.

Why not both?

I see what you did there :p

But see both are very much possible and within the timeframe of course.

 
 
Don’t forget time is relative.

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The market is completely illogical these days. The mass adoption, worldwide recognition and the outflow of bitcoins from exchanges is rapidly growing each day. Still the bears find ammo to erase any positive price movement.  May be this is caused by the reckless longs and/or whales trying to control the market and buying in the shadows cheap coins. But anyone falling in this trap is going to regret as those who sold at 3K-4k not so long time ago. To be honest, I'm a bit sad for all these morons, since they bet on the wrong side - the global fiat collapsing empire. They follow the footsteps of mindrust. The inflation in all countries is taking its heavy toll. Just in 2 years for the most important goods it is over 50%. Imagine what will happen after 10 or 20 years and those thinking "we are rich" by selling now, one day will be completely broke. And then imagine what will be the price of BTCitcoin despite the bear markets caused by the near-sightedness of these jerks. It is obvious for me that selling just for fiat in the bank now and in the future is a huge mistake!
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There are powerful forces at work who need Twitter to remain the mouthpiece of the liberal WEF agenda.

This article just totally proves my point.

EU Puts Elon Musk On Notice Over Free Speech Plans For Twitter
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-puts-elon-musk-notice-over-free-speech-plans-twitter

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"We welcome everyone. We are open but on our conditions. At least we know what to tell him: ‘Elon, there are rules. You are welcome but these are our rules. It’s not your rules which will apply here," said Breton.
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April 26, 2022, 06:43:39 PM

Hi guys,

I wanted to share this article, because they speak about a possible Bullish scenario:

It seems that in these here parts, many of us prefer the bullishly inclined bitcoin presentations - does not seem to matter too much whether it happens to be a bull market, bear market or seemingly indecisive market.

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The cost basis term is often used to describe the average entry price of investors into an asset. The short-term holder cost basis shows that the average entry of short-term Bitcoin holders is currently at $47,000.



To me, it seems that Will is saying that it could go either way.. he is not really committing to anything overly bullish in that particular statement.



I did not know the baseline of cost and what it implies,

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Whenever the short-term cost basis crosses the HODLer Implied Price, investors receive either bullish or bearish signals, depending on the direction of a cross. In the current case, if Bitcoin continues to drop further, the market will most likely dive deeper as selling pressure from short-term traders aggravates.


Source:https://u.today/bitcoin-bullish-scenario-possible-after-reaching-47000-blockware-analyst

Some metrics are something demonstrable for people's emotions, for example extreme fear is one of the causes that in this article make.


On the other hand Bitcoincharts also made a very interesting RT:



Twitter: https://twitter.com/therationalroot/status/1518907812704882688


It seems to show that there are increasingly longer cycles as time passes.

Of course, there are guys in the space who are trying to use bitcoin tailored analysis that will use the kinds of data that are not so easily gotten in traditional assets - while at the same time, some of the tools that they used might have been ported over from mainstream usages.. and it seems at the same time, there are some new bitcoin specific tools - and of course, if we are not experts in these areas, we might not even be able to determine if some kind of a tool is a new tool or not or if there might or might not be very good predictive power to attempt to employ some variation of an analyzing tool in bitcoinlandia.
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The market is completely illogical these days. The mass adoption, worldwide recognition and the outflow of bitcoins from exchanges is rapidly growing each day. Still the bears find ammo to erase any positive price movement.  May be this is caused by the reckless longs and/or whales trying to control the market and buying in the shadows cheap coins. But anyone falling in this trap is going to regret as those who sold at 3K-4k not so long time ago. To be honest, I'm a bit sad for all these morons, since they bet on the wrong side - the global fiat collapsing empire. They follow the footsteps of mindrust. The inflation in all countries is taking its heavy toll. Just in 2 years for the most important goods it is over 50%. Imagine what will happen after 10 or 20 years and those thinking "we are rich" by selling now, one day will be completely broke. And then imagine what will be the price of BTCitcoin despite the bear markets caused by the near-sightedness of these jerks. It is obvious for me that selling just for fiat in the bank now and in the future is a huge mistake!




He isn't wrong.


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There are powerful forces at work who need Twitter to remain the mouthpiece of the liberal WEF agenda.

This article just totally proves my point.

EU Puts Elon Musk On Notice Over Free Speech Plans For Twitter
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eu-puts-elon-musk-notice-over-free-speech-plans-twitter

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"We welcome everyone. We are open but on our conditions. At least we know what to tell him: ‘Elon, there are rules. You are welcome but these are our rules. It’s not your rules which will apply here," said Breton.

Dirty fucking bastards..... they have no intention of lifting the boot from the necks of the people.  

The E.U is bankrupt...... financially and morally.

People need to remind these unelected pieces of shit who they work for.



 
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ps-  Also Thierry Breton,  have a lifetime ban on Twitter.

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I'm guessing Elon would simply say "we don't need to operate in Europe." .. but that depends on how much he is willing to sacrifice, if there is any revenue to be lost for Twitter from the EU.

It says right there "freedom of speech"

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It says right there "freedom of speech"

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He is engaging in doublespeak
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Vax and virus observers.
Elon and twitter observers.

when BIP drama observers?
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Don't quote Juanithá. (aka. Jay Juan 'Guru' )  sHe knows nothing and sHe is a quack.  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

The know nothing pointing out others who also do not know nuttin.


What kinds of results will this produce?

#that's called a rhetorical question


This really is kinda good.  Lol.  Took a sec to hit though!



We should add Bitcoin to the list I think?  At least Doge...

Getting back to the idea of whether that delusional guy (Elon) is a bitcoiner.. oh my...  and at least you were able to muster up sense enough to put doggie coin as your back up idea, but still that has the problem, even within your way of framing the whole matter, to convolute the ideas of bitcoin and doggie coin as if they were similar things.. which surely a common mainstream problem is convoluting various coins and losing track of what is bitcoin as compared some various random shitcoin project (even if popular and funny and seeming to get some short-term pump and dump traction), but I question whether OG bitcoiners (pointing at uie-pooie, cAPSLOCK) should be re-inforcing such nonsense mainstream convolutions... and of course, you seem to understand bitcoin.. so no excuses....   -1 WO merit to you for that idea (if we might even refer to it as that?).
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I bought @ $38,177 ~ avg price. I think, we have a jump up before finally going down.
Don't be nocoiners waiting for that 28k, It might or It might not happen. thanks.  Wink
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