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Hehehe... Savage Gachapin.
Everything is possible.
You are a Bitcoin Retard.
You won't understand.

Everything is possible?

You sound like a shitcoiner, Crypt0S0ul.

Vitalik?  Is that you?

Nah. Not at all.
Crypt0S0ul is a hardcore Bitcoiner. You missed the context.
That was sarcasm by the way.
Vitalik? Fuck you vitalik.


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The vast majority of public policy creates stagflation and there is little that you can do to change this. What you can do is buy #bitcoin    and work hard to generate income so that you can #hodl until the rest of the world realizes that BTC is the best global store of value asset.

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Set up for what?

Today's the day. Rigged markets are coming with one last big short push. Stonks, PMs, Bitcoin all getting hammered hard.

The insiders know that even if the Fed raises rates another time or two, they would be absolutely suicidal to raise another big hike like 75 or even 50 bp.

The Fed won't be able to maintain high rates for long, as the world economies will absolutely melt down.

As soon as the Fed sees the mass layoffs they so desperately want to see, they'll pivot like a mf'er. And the insiders know it.

This is bottom fishing time. If you want bitcoin, now's the time to buy it.
Really? But some people saying miners are still in profits and price will go below or break even to that points. I would not mind to wait for some more time before taking another entry. Targeting around 13k for my final entry though i am not sure price will go that far or not. But i wants to take that chance because the reason i already mentioned at first line.

Why don't you 'splain ur lil selfie a wee bit MOAR better DudeAtWork420?

You're a newbie here.

How are we going to know you, know what you are doing, or know which post you are referring to when you say "I already mention at first line?"

You are suggesting that you know what the fuck miner costs are?  You believe that bitcoin prices follow mining costs?

If you say that you are planning on taking "another entry," then what were your first "entries?"

I did a quickie look at your forum post history and it is pretty depressing since it looks like you have been pretty heavily into shitcoinening and bounty hunting for the total of your forum history.. and you even have a forum registration date that is pretty damned close to my own registration date, so just imagine if you had invested $25 per week into bitcoin since February 26, 2014, then you would have invested $11,200 in total, but you would have reached more than mindrust's pre-meltdown status of more than 11 BTC, and that would have set you pretty in these days, no?  

Instead you talking a lot of nonsense are dabbling with ideas (and wishes for the BTC price to get down to $13k-ish so you can make an entry), when you should have already had a whole hell of a lot of ideas (in the last. 8.5 years) to stack quite a few sats for way less than $13k..  Have you heard of Dollar cost averaging? .. actually you would be a sats billionaire by now, if you had merely stacked $25 per week for the whole of your forum registration time, but instead you continue to chase bounties and even BTC prices that do not seem to have very high odds of playing out in order that you can make "another entry."

Do you even know what bitcoin is, except that maybe you want to try to buy low and sell with a 10% profit?

I doubt anyone here (besides this here cat) has much if any clue about how you are "playing" bitcoin and/or if you have any solid ideas (or clues), especially if you are seeming to give such high odds to something like $13k as a possible "entry point."

What's your investment timeline?  One month?  or maybe you will run out of money by then?

How long have you been into bitcoin?

Do you know the difference between bitcoin and various shitcoins, or do you ONLY consider bitcoin as a indicator to attempt to figure out if "alt season" might be coming?

Maybe I am NOT giving you enough credit DudeAtWork420 and you know more than I am imagining to be the case...  
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(and wishes for the BTC price to get down to $13k-ish so you can make an entry)
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Why are the shitcoinairs trying so hard to attempt to merge Bitcoin and other coins and trying to create a semblance between Bitcoin and altcoins and trying to create a battle between USD and Bitcoin when both can co-exist independently and exist in the same economic system without one have to give way to the other.

BTC is a better alternative and not shitcoins!

Well?  Are you just asking a rhetorical question?

You been around here longer than most of us (including yours truly), so maybe you want to explain the situation or your proposed answer?

You surely have some ideas on the topic, don't you?

Are you waking up from sleep?

I did a quick look at your forum posting history and you do have a lot of shitcoin stuffs in there.  Maybe you just found out about bitcoin?  hahahahahaha.. and you are just figuring out what it is?  it bee deee kings of dee corns, and even MOAR better than shitcoins, no?

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Bitcoin has POW  ...in fact it's the strongest POW network on earth.

Energy is limited.

It's extremely difficult run a second BTC, because you cannot inflate energy.

But you can inflate the number of non-POW shitcoins to infinity.

Right now, no shitcoin can possibly reach Bitcoin's unique power physically.  So shitcoiners try it at least verbally, hoping to dupe enough people into buying their trash.

Lacking own real power, shitcoins are desperate to present themselves as being unique. That's why they gather around and compare themselves to the most powerful player which is BTC.
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Totally agreed,
But here's the thing... (I've paraphrased/posted this before) yes, shitcoins wouldn't have any value were it not for bitcoin.
Unfortunately, and very sadly, that statement in reverse has considerable merit.  
Think about it.
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see shitcoins evaporate ... but it's not gonna happen. As long as King Daddy rules/exists, the shitcoins will too. Deal with it.
(we can't advocate outlawing them, that's against libby ideology ain't it?)

(bracing myself for the inevitable batslaps and the like)

No batslaps coming from this here cat, and it is quite likely that a lot of us already recognize that the existence and the persistence of shitcoins is going to continue for quite a long time.. maybe even several hundred years - but still does not mean that they should not be denigrated and that they should not be appreciated for the snake-oil salesmen products that they are.

Many of us are likely going to either know people who are into shitcoins or even to have "good friends" who are into shitcoins, and sure the level of "toleration" may well continue to vary.. and even sometimes cause some heated verbal (and maybe even physical) blows from time to time.

There are a large number of paths into bitcoin too, and sometimes shitcoins might provide a path into bitcoin, and some folks may well stay shitcoiners all of their lives (whether short or long), and some of the shitcoiners may well have (or show) greater material wealth and greater levels of consumption than bitcoiners and may even have more hookers, lambos and blow too.

Each of us will be choosing if we get into shitcoins, and if so the extent to which we get into shitcoins or if we restrain from such temptations that are going to have a lot of different forms in the years to come, just as they have already taken a large variety of forms in the years past.. and if we fail/refuse to understand and appreciate the various ways that king daddy differs from shitcoins, then those kinds of intellectual limitations will be our own responsibilities to live with those kinds of choices, even if we should not be pumping or promoting those kinds of choices in threads like this because it remains too much of a distraction to our attempts to explore real (King daddy-related) issues in this here thread...


Focus.. sirazimuth

Focus..


Focus ur lil selfie...









O.k.. I lied..






The more I think  about it..






You really deserve a bat slappening..







Here you go.. .





POW>>>>>





Don't be saying that I never did not gave uie-pooie nuttin.  Wink
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Interesting little tidbit on Satoshi if true...

https://twitter.com/orweinberger/status/1573234325046558720?t=Zedkj4MiEygkRzi4bqvsUA&s=19

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Did you know? A day before the http://bitcoin.org domain was first registered, someone purchased http://netcoin.org using the same registrar. Looks like Satoshi was contemplating between the two names and later dropped http://netcoin.org

Netcoin doesn't have quite the same ring to it as bitcoin though, does it?
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Interesting little tidbit on Satoshi if true...

https://twitter.com/orweinberger/status/1573234325046558720?t=Zedkj4MiEygkRzi4bqvsUA&s=19

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Did you know? A day before the http://bitcoin.org domain was first registered, someone purchased http://netcoin.org using the same registrar. Looks like Satoshi was contemplating between the two names and later dropped http://netcoin.org

Netcoin doesn't have quite the same ring to it as bitcoin though, does it?

great info. thanks!  if true

something with N would probably be quite a shitty symbol compared to BTC



... and what would we call shitcoins then...  nietcoins or something?    at least the USD would rhyme with fedcoin

there is probably a parallel universe with that reality right now
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What you can do is buy #bitcoin    and work hard to generate income so that you can #hodl until the rest of the world realizes that BTC is the best global store of value asset.
The world will understand Bitcoin is the popular coin of the future when they can use it as well as hodl it. If at least one mainstream software company builds Bitcoin applications and use cases, people will better understand that Bitcoin is our future asset.Demand for Bitcoin will increase over time as more people realize that the fiat system has failed. So now anyone can buy and hold bitcoins for their financial freedom. Bitcoin has never disappointed any long-term investor. Rather, it has made more profit.
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JJG 627118

Yeah, I've seen the Citadel but just now noticed the ranks (as nobility) just to the right of the mount.

I suspect we all wish we were one or two levels higher than we are now...  LOL

Likely if we have been active with our BTC stashes over many years, there are a lot of ways to make mistakes along the way in terms of balancing our strategy(ies), figuring out where we are, where we want to be, and what risks we are ready, willing and able to take... and even to reconsider some of our views including that this is a work-in-progress - including sometimes making sure that we are going to be able to preserve our stash into the future (perhaps at certain target dates in the future), and maybe that is part of your reference in terms of considering that if we have more BTC stash, then we have more cushion to ride out the volatility and also to make sure that we get to some anticipated future places (can we call them checkpoints?) that we would like to be.

There may well be plenty of us who are relatively active in this here thread who have enough coins, but we still have to make sure that we are able to hang onto a certain number of those coins that we already have and are able to access them at certain points in the future.

There are challenges in managing our own stash (which might well be stronger levels of assurance to future-proof our coins), but at the same time, some of the ways of (and thoughts about ) how to hold coins can change with time, and for sure there would be some frustrations to run across a situation in which you have locked yourself out of your coins or even that your heirs might not be able to access your coins - to the extent that you have some legacy desires or consider that those snot-noses deserve your coins.. .hahahahahaha

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JJG 627118
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Interesting way to quote. Never seen that before. I like it.

It's not as good as linking, because as soon as someone deletes any post upstream, then the number is off (it works for ONLY a short period of time because inevitably posts get deleted, and sometimes some guys (not going to name any names here Bxxx.. .. ).. but some guys will go on hundreds of posts deleting sprees for "reasons,"  then the number is way off.. but if you quote the post or use a link, then it is always easy to reference.... #justsaying.

JJG 627118
Interesting way to quote. Never seen that before. I like it.
thats some opcode or machine code for the JJG bot that accidentally got displayed.. poor error trapping probably

For sure... OROBTC deserves a batslapping for that.  #justsaying

 Angry Angry Angry Angry

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i wonder.
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That's all I do. And then I post.

Like an algorithm.. it works until it doesn't.

who can guess that shitcoin I was briefly mining for good profit in 2015 with an S4 (Hint....SHA256, obviously)
First correct answer gets a merit. (and a batslap from jay... lol)

 I see that Bat slaps no don't work no more.

Gotta switch to adjust to the changes in the virus (or is it a bacteria?  asking for a friend)

.....

...... no shitcoins need apply.

Agreed, they don't need to, but they do, and now we have millions of the bastards...

Stop reminding us..

AAAAAAAUUUUUGGGGGHHHH



That's me, by the way.

I broke opsec..

Out of emotions, I could not help my lil selfie.
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Here you go.. .





POW>>>>>





Don't be saying that I never did not gave uie-pooie nuttin.  Wink

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Stop reminding us..

AAAAAAAUUUUUGGGGGHHHH



That's me, by the way.

I broke opsec..

Out of emotions, I could not help my lil selfie.

My goodness ...I just got a warm fuzzy.....  #no homo
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I hope you did not confuse the WO with twitter and expect us to send you back double the amount...  
 

What is the relation between sharing love and Twitter?
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I should shut my mouth off and Not argue with JJG.
I shouldn't reveal who that was.
I revealed that 20 hours later, right after JJG questioned my origin.
Why do you believe I could expect the double? LOL.
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There may be some folks who believe that there is an "us" that is willing (or able) to be "driven towards green energy," but I am thinking that you are getting your language wrong here.. because the incentives built into bitcoin gives no ratts' asses whether energy is green or not... There are incentives that the energy be less expensive; however, the extent to which any mining operation is going to be operating at "optimal efficiencies" will depend upon a variety of factors - which (the last time I checked) continue to be decentralized to the extent that individuals, mining institutions (and surely pools too) are considering a variety of factors in regards to when, where and how to conduct their mining operations and "green" aspects may well be discretionary - depending on a variety of factors.

I am not proclaiming that you are completely wrong.. but your suggestion that "green" has to be a priority based on current happenings seems to misdescribe what might be dogs and what might be tails - even though they are both present on the same animal.
Not sure we are talking about the same incentives. Mining with cheaper, green energy instead of dirty, more expensive energy : Which is better? Economically and ethically obviously the clean energy miners. I already gave you the source on green energy production costing less than outdated energy production.

At some point, people will start realizing that they can get the same electricity but at lower costs. Thats when big oil starts dying and their lobbyist buddies no longer have incentives to screw everyone over by polluting our living-environment and bodies. I guess some people just enjoy their fish pre-oiled before cooking. Roll Eyes Guten Apetite.  Kiss


Aren't you presuming too much, goldkingcoiner?  Where do you get the idea that "Green" energy is always cheaper?  Might the cost of energy and the advantages and disadvantages of each energy type differ based on location, and sometimes there could be some justifications to operate some kinds of energy at a loss in order to fund research or the development of future energy-related technologies.. and surely bitcoin has a lot of various ways in which energy can be consumed that had not been previously practical. so I am not really disagreeing with the ideas about the need to analyze generation, transmission and distribution.. . .and it seems that we also have concerns about how energy is consumed too.. especially when it comes to certain kinds of consumption that is deemed to be "less important" by some segments of the population.. so surely generation, transmission and distribution are supply side factors and some concerns about consumption has recently been part of what is being considered in the recent formulas too... and also who consumes the energy.. there seem to be some protectionism regarding who can consume what kinds of energy too, no?  and bitcoin is part of the idea.. but "we" don't want poor people to be consuming energy, right?  They might get richer by figuring out how to consume energy in ways to benefit their situations rather than contributing to the ability of others to be able to consume.  I am not claiming to know the answer.. but it seems that arguments are being convoluted and maybe it is not always on purpose... even though sometimes it seems that the convolution is happening on purpose.. and it is not just on one side of the political spectrum, either
I linked the source. But I guess if you live in the Arctic, it would be hard to generate electricity with sunlight or wind. Huh I guess you are half-right. But a few more decades of global warming and we won't have to worry about that. We will be too busy treating daily heatstroke.


Big oil is the bad guy?  I have difficulties with this presumption. 
Your difficulties have been noted and will be taken seriously.

I understand various arguments regarding privatizing the gains and socializing the losses, so I would agree that companies should not be socializing some of their expenses (which would include costs to the environment that sometimes need to be sufficiently and adequately considered).. I am also not inclined to privatize everything, so there is a role for government and also a role to protect various public interests when it comes to energy production and also energy availability, yet I have difficulties considering that the energy companies are always the bad guys.. because there are some needs for allowing for the production and finding of resources and the various supply-side factors that you mentioned.

Big Oil is running on marketing only, at this point. People are either too afraid or too greedy to give our old energy production system up for a better system. Like people who cannot give fiat up even though it is obviously becoming redundant. We call those people nocoiners.

Climate change deniers are the nocoiners of science.


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