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Just got the Plaid email from coinbase. Not acceptable. Who else are we liking to be able to sell BTC through?
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December 14, 2022, 10:39:30 PM

Just got the Plaid email from coinbase. Not acceptable. Who else are we liking to be able to sell BTC through?

the plaid email confuses me. I am not sure why I need do it.

coinbase has all my kyc.

my drivers license

my social security


my home address

my bank

my PayPal

I am completely trackable on my coinbase account so why is it I need to do plaid?

my bank
my PayPal

are all fully kyc so what more do they want?
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are all fully kyc so what more do they want?
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December 14, 2022, 10:55:07 PM

Just got the Plaid email from coinbase. Not acceptable. Who else are we liking to be able to sell BTC through?

the plaid email confuses me. I am not sure why I need do it.

coinbase has all my kyc.

my drivers license

my social security


my home address

my bank

my PayPal

I am completely trackable on my coinbase account so why is it I need to do plaid?

my bank
my PayPal

are all fully kyc so what more do they want?


in plaid you give them your bank account login and password...this is crazy and I am not sure if it is even legal (it shouldn't be).
I also got Coinbase email.
Unfortunately, Kraken doesn't do ACH in NY and Texas, otherwise, I would say: Kraken (albeit some said that they also use plaid for something).
One possible solution: Chase, PNC and Capital One don't use plaid.
I intent on waiting until Jan 9 reset, then see if i can choose not to use plaid with the current bank account.
If not, I will look at other options.
BTW, someone mentioned that if you activate 2FA on the bank account, plaid cannot work, so I surmise that it would be logical to provide an alternative venue.
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He is in the Nosebleeds being dissapointed...

How da fak, does a Bitcoin friendly AI get disappointed?
If anything, it should remain extra thick.



Yo philip. Are you a horse lover/whisperer?
Asking because “Phillip”, means exactly that, hence I was wondering.

lover of horse's was true from 4-29

I spent a lot of years at racetrack's ,but now I am a lover of Judy 

(my wife) from 29-65

Middle name is Maurice (moorish for the 'dark one')

Still a bit dark

Some people call him the space cowboy, yeah
Some call him the gangster of love
Some people call him Maurice
'Cause he speaks of the pompatus of love
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$ Cash. Thank God USA exists otherwise people would suffer even more. Plugging Bitcoin in such a Country is just convenient for Bitcoin but not the people

Of course bitcoin does not completely negate the potential utility of physical cash..... even though bitcoin is superior than physical cash systems as we currently know them to be..  and surely it will take a long time for bitcoin to completely subsume all monetary value systems through the failure (and inferiority that will continue to be exhibited through various inferior systems, including physical cash like the dollar as we currently know it today), but even then there are other forms of value, besides monetary value that will be retained by other goods, services, assets.. and perhaps some other forms of cash will exist.. even though they might end up having to be issued on bitcoin. .or through some kind of system that is pegged to bitcoin.. but no need to rush these matters that could take decades, if not centuries to sort out the various kinds of value and even the figuring out of how the various shitcoins or value systems are inferior to bitcoin. .at least in terms of sorting through Gresham law principles which exist whether you believe in them or not or even whether you advocate for them or not.

Why are you guys saying its a trap pump? If anything this seems like insiders buying in after hearing some good news which is yet to be revealed.
I actually don't ...

BUT

it's EOY, manager bonuses about to be payed out, gains (*g*) to be taken, taxes about to be payed, christmas shenanigans about to be financed soon.
I reckon there is some downward potential around the corner, but apart from that, King Daddy will just be going on doing his thing  Grin

King daddy likely gives few shits about calendar year dynamics, even though sure there could be some of these kinds of short-term affects on BTC price.. .. which yeah I seem to largely be saying the same things as you OOM.

when I was dismissed as a nut job and a conspiracy theorist

Who would-a thunk?

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December 15, 2022, 02:34:19 AM

2:30 PM EST.
Fed does 50 basis points and we rally up to 19k

When gonna happen?

I saw $18,373 flash before my eyes.... like a dream

strongpaws

Preparing for Christmas turkey.

The further we pull away from $15,000 the more likely it is that the bottom is in (obvious, right).
Market is looking good at the moment but I’m still only 50/50 that we’ve seen the bottom. I’ll be convinced if we hit mid 2023 over $25,000. Binance is making me nervous at the moment, apart from that though, I don’t see any Black Swan events?

What do you think WO?

Bashing on Binance seems like opportunism.. and I doubt it is going to pay off...   Just because FTX was engaged in outrageous shenanigans does not mean that Binance is doing the same.. even if there are some aspects that are similar.. .. The level of bullshit at FTX is beyond outrageous.. and CZ is not even close to being that level of clown.

It's like the historical (nothing burger) bashing on Tether.  Tends to be no there there...

Of course, the fucktwats in DC and other bitcoin naysaying powers that be peeps are going to also try to use as much opportunism as they can muster to go after CZ and .. I have doubts about whether they have anything concrete on him.. even though they will continue to make shit up..

And, maybe like the negativity around silk road in late 2013, there is going to end up being a kind of Streisand effect in terms of ongoingly people are figuring out more and more about bitcoin.. even though there are a lot of confused folks too.. so whether the bottom is in, yes. 50/50 or more likely 49/51 since we gotta get some MOAR and better UPpity.. to get my lil precious out of this current bear market.. and I am really not sure about your assessment of taking until mid-2023 to get to $25k would be enough.. .. though I can appreciate that you have specified both price and time in such a way that it might be reasonable to consider as enough to get us out of our current bear market - even though I am also considering that there might be some upward explosion at some point that would reck some shorts.. and that could happen at any time.. though still might be a wee bit too optimistic to expect any UPpity recking price events from the honey badger in the coming 6-ish months... even though never say never.. and it would be kind of satisfying to see some of the fucktwats  getting recked on the way down and then reckt again on the way up.. two-way reckenings of the overly leveraging gamblers (and likely some less than deserving manipulators getting caught in there too).
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Just got the Plaid email from coinbase. Not acceptable. Who else are we liking to be able to sell BTC through?

the plaid email confuses me. I am not sure why I need do it.

coinbase has all my kyc.

my drivers license

my social security


my home address

my bank

my PayPal

I am completely trackable on my coinbase account so why is it I need to do plaid?

my bank
my PayPal

are all fully kyc so what more do they want?


in plaid you give them your bank account login and password...this is crazy and I am not sure if it is even legal (it shouldn't be).
I also got Coinbase email.
Unfortunately, Kraken doesn't do ACH in NY and Texas, otherwise, I would say: Kraken (albeit some said that they also use plaid for something).
One possible solution: Chase, PNC and Capital One don't use plaid.
I intent on waiting until Jan 9 reset, then see if i can choose not to use plaid with the current bank account.
If not, I will look at other options.
BTW, someone mentioned that if you activate 2FA on the bank account, plaid cannot work, so I surmise that it would be logical to provide an alternative venue.

Yeah can't give my password to them. Well this should be fun.
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He is in the Nosebleeds being dissapointed...

How da fak, does a Bitcoin friendly AI get disappointed?
If anything, it should remain extra thick.



Yo philip. Are you a horse lover/whisperer?
Asking because “Phillip”, means exactly that, hence I was wondering.

lover of horse's was true from 4-29

I spent a lot of years at racetrack's ,but now I am a lover of Judy  

(my wife) from 29-65

Middle name is Maurice (moorish for the 'dark one')

Still a bit dark

Some people call him the space cowboy, yeah
Some call him the gangster of love
Some people call him Maurice
'Cause he speaks of the pompatus of love


I had a girlfriend in the Navy she would play that song for me quite a bit.  1978-1980 was when I hung round with her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV3AziKTBUo

we rented an apartment in Lemon Grove home of the best climate on earth.




walking distance to this sign/statue
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Why are you guys saying its a trap pump? If anything this seems like insiders buying in after hearing some good news which is yet to be revealed.
The news has already been revealed. Inflation slowing down. Stock market is up. Bitcoin is up. Sadly not decoupled from that shit yet. There is no magic here.
It won't decouple until 2030 or later. It needs to be a lot bigger than 5 trillion which would mean 13 fold the current price.

Oh my!!!!

Part of your problema philip is that you don't seem to understand dee cornz very well.

Dee cornz are already decoupled - even if we have these periods of correlation, that seem to confuse people.. including but not limited to ur lil selfie.

I would think that you should know better.. but sad thing is that you do not.

You should realize that Bitcoin is already successful in the sense of both being a baby.. and still being a paradigm shifting phenomenon that is very difficult for the status quo powers that be to figure out how to attempt to manage..

and if you keep viewing bitcoin through those kinds of fiat lenses..then you are going to continue to make a lot of dumb proclamations regarding where we are at, where we came from and where we are likely going.. and so seeing where we are at is only part of the assessment.. and another part is why and how we got here..which you do not seem to understand those parts either, even though you seem to know part of it.


It is simple enough.

It's only simple if you are trying to look at bitcoin through fiat, which is contributing towards your ongoingly being wrong.. in the past you have been wrong, in the present you are wrong, and I am not going to proclaim to know if you will continue to be wrong in the future, even though you have a pretty strongly wrongly pattern going on.  Sorry bout dat.   Cry Cry Cry Cry

fall 2021 I bonds = over 7%
spring 2022 I bonds = over 9%
fall 2022 I bonds = close to 6.89%

Yes.. they are desperate.. and they are trying to suck you in.. which surely is partially successful in getting retail to make up for some of the governments that are trying to get away from supporting USD systems, such as China, Saudi, Russia.. and some others... but yeah.. it might still continue to work for another cycle or two.. (are we talking 4 year cycles or 12 year cycles?)...


These numbers hurt all crypto bigly.

No they don't.  suck guys like you in.  That's fine. whatever... but no need to pump that bullshit, here.

in 2021 over 3.3 trill in I bonds could be purchased
in 2022 over 3.3 trill in I bonds could be purchased
in 2023 over 3.3 trill in I bonds can be purchased

Yeah. they have to be purchased... Old debt has to be rolled over into new debt.. and good thing that there are suckers like you willing to buy it... if suckers like you do not buy, and other institutions and governments do not buy, then guess who is buying?  The USGovt will end up buying them, and how are they going to do it?  They will have to print.. .. and if production does not go up high enough, they will be printing higher than the ability continue to service and roll over that debt.. it is truly a sad state of affairs that we are in.. and you seem to not only be buying it hook line and sinker, you are promoting such strategy as if it would actually be good for people to do.. (even implying, instead of bitcoin.. which seems misinformed and lacking in understanding)

with proper managing you could be getting rates in the 6.89 to 9.62%. for Nov 2021 until Nov 2023

this is a huge drag on all crypto.

including BTC

Of course, you are so excited that you are repeating yourself.

I don't have problems putting some money into those things, but don't think that they are something that guys/gals should be allocating very much into or even talking about in this thread as if they were some kind of meaningful bitcoin substitute.. .and fuck shitcoins.. who gives any shit about the extent to which US bonds are competing with shitcoins.. Of course, even shitcoins are related to ways in which normies fail/refuse to get their BTC investment allocations figured out... which has to do with figuring out a budget, and then figuring how much BTC to accumulate and how to accumulate and over what period of time.  Keep your eye on the prize...even if you (philip) may well already be a lost cause which continues to show itself in your ongoing lack of focus posts and promoting nonsensical distractions.

What do you think WO?
I think we’re going to see the bottom in the following 30 days max.
I’m not convinced we’ve seen the bottom already either, there has not been enough blood on the streets bro, no crash-panicky-wick and no extreme FUD.
Just some salty banker statements.

Rooting for January.
Not that we care - much - yo.

Yeah.. sure. there could be another lower low in January.. but it surely is not a condition precedent that is needed in order for BTC prices to go up and for the bottom to be in.

Maybe we get a further bottom.. and maybe we don't.

Maybe such bottom is quick and a wick and maybe it is not.  
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Part of your problema philip is that you don't seem to understand dee cornz very well.

Epic Facepalm.

Dee cornz are already decoupled - even if we have these periods of correlation, that seem to confuse people.. including but not limited to ur lil selfie.

Won't be decoupled until its no longer an institutional investment... pretty simple really. I've never understood the steadfast denial of correlation by those who wish to pretend corn exists in its own economic bubble. It does not.



Here's some basic reading for ur lil selfie, let's see if it will make a dent in your stone head.

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As Bitcoin morphed into an asset class, more interest was created. Brokerages and institutions gained traction with regulators and offered investment opportunities like Bitcoin-linked ETFs and 401(k)s that allowed investors to place Bitcoin in them.

Because institutions were providing familiar instruments, investors appeared to become more comfortable with cryptocurrencies.

In late 2021 and into mid-2022, cryptocurrency prices rose and fell similarly to equity prices. The chart below shows Bitcoin's (BTC) price compared to the S&P 500 (SPX) and the Nasdaq 100 (NDX).

"Ah but its not correlated 100% of the time."

Correct. Regardless, some correlation is still correlation.
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