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Hey, how is that supposed "Santa Claus Rally" looking so far, eh? You know, the one that the MSM financial news has been croning on about?
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December 15, 2022, 03:33:19 PM |
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Maybe we get a further bottom.. and maybe we don't.
Maybe such bottom is quick and a wick and maybe it is not.
Sure, maybe the sun comes up tomorrow, or maybe it will not. Maybe the Earth is round, or maybe it is not. You name it, I can go on all day, but it all boils down to what each one of us believes is more likely.
That is proof that you suffer mentally -
Proof you said? Pfff. - or unless you are a low coiner or a no coiner.
Compared to you or other OG’s, sure, I might be a low coiner. But kindly don’t insult me by calling me a no coiner. BTW, define low coiner. I know that no coiners and low coiners are "having a blast" from these recently low ("discounted") BTC prices.
Sorry to spoil your bubble here, but I did not expect to see these prices [below $20k] ever again, so yeah - I was pleasantly surprised. Also try to remember [new patch available] that I sold only half of my coins in the last bull run, and yet I’m still having blast. Could be, because I never cared much about money, or ever will. "They" decided that JJG had some chores that s/he/it had to do around the house... so JJG is just fine.. just had to do those referenced chores around the house.
Oh, I’m sorry to hear that. Low coiner me, can afford to have someone do the chores, perhaps high coiner you, should do the same, yo. That way you can bust our balls here 24/7. I’m a visual person Jay, so take a pick: a) b)
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December 15, 2022, 04:28:10 PM Last edit: December 15, 2022, 05:26:34 PM by kellrobinson |
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Horizontal axis, block height divided by 140. Red, moving geometric mean over 210,000 blocks (one halving). Green, moving geometric mean over 105,000 blocks (half halving). Yellow, their ratio (times 100 to bring it into the frame). Sell signal when the rising half cycle ratio crosses 2; I guess crossing 2 in the other direction indicates buy. Which we are approaching now.
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December 15, 2022, 05:01:18 PM |
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December 15, 2022, 05:55:06 PM |
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So we must thank Satoshi for creating this, ending the monopoly of Banks and saving our future.
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Horizontal axis, block height divided by 140. Red, moving geometric mean over 210,000 blocks (one halving). Green, moving geometric mean over 105,000 blocks (half halving). Yellow, their ratio (times 100 to bring it into the frame). Sell signal when the rising half cycle ratio crosses 2; I guess crossing 2 in the other direction indicates buy. Which we are approaching now. Nice graph, but, imho, TA would be of less value in the next period. Volatility in the markets is increasing (and rightfully so). Three mo ago DXY was at 114, now at around 104, indices are going up and down 600-800 points a day in a random fashion. My feel is that macro is driving prices now: there are larger factors involved in comparison with our usual dynamics. My feel is that in the next 12-18 mo the price of bitcoin will be completely random inasmuch as a fluctuation between 15 (hopefully, not below) and 50K.
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December 15, 2022, 06:05:01 PM |
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the morning wall report dyor ------------- firms like FTX are "deliberately evasive", the incoming chair of UK Financial Conduct Authority (FCA), Ashley Alder, told the Treasury Committee in a meeting on Wednesday.
Alder told the committee that he will be starting with the U.K. financial regulator on Feb. 20. Alder is currently the CEO of Hong Kong’s Securities and Futures Commission (SFC), and once he starts at the FCA he will be working alongside FCA CEO Nikhil Rathi.
"They (crypto firms) are a method by which money laundering happens at size," Alder said. https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/incoming-fca-chair-calls-crypto-firms-like-ftx-deliberately-evasive-202212151215----------- . . . Rather than aggressively regulating crypto and skeptically scrutinizing its claims, the CFTC has spent most of its time cheerleading the industry and trying to expand its jurisdiction rather than worrying about investor, customer, and markets protections.
First of all, the very existence of the CFTC is a blight on the entire US regulatory landscape. It is an aberration that was only born because back in the 1970s, the SEC was snooty about regulating pork belly futures. It has since been sustained in perverse life by the pork-filled nature of US politics.
https://www.ft.com/content/066a5e46-380c-4f51-b02c-4276d9a869a1------------- A global rally sparked by softer-than-expected US consumer price index data came to an abrupt halt on Wednesday after the Fed sought to dispel hopes for a rate cut next year. While Fed and ECB slowed the tempo of their hikes to half a percentage point, Powell and ECB President Christine Lagarde hammered home their resolve to remain persistent as they battle inflation. https://finance.yahoo.com/news/asian-stocks-open-lower-hawkish-224244888.htmlMarket snapshot
Bitcoinl -2.3% to $17,413.13
S&P 500 -2.5%
Nasdaq 100 -3.1%
DJI -2.4%
MSCI World index -0.2%
Euro -0.8% to $1.0601
Pound -2% to $1.2181
Yen -1.9% to 138.00 per dollar
10-year US Treasuries -0.3 to 3.44%
Germany’s 10-year yield +1.4% to 2.08%
Britain’s 10-year yield -0.7% to 3.24%
WTI crude -1.1% to $76.45 a barrel
Gold futures -1.7% to $1,788.50 an ounce
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December 15, 2022, 07:17:46 PM Last edit: December 15, 2022, 08:42:48 PM by Torque |
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Here is the ultimate irony though:Once mass layoffs begin in Jan/Feb and the MSM confirms that "We are *definitely* in a recession now!", all markets (including bitcoin) will rally. Yep, rally. Makes total sense.
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December 15, 2022, 07:25:25 PM |
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Nice graph, but, imho, TA would be of less value in the next period. Volatility in the markets is increasing (and rightfully so). Three mo ago DXY was at 114, now at around 104, indices are going up and down 600-800 points a day in a random fashion. My feel is that macro is driving prices now: there are larger factors involved in comparison with our usual dynamics. My feel is that in the next 12-18 mo the price of bitcoin will be completely random inasmuch as a fluctuation between 15 (hopefully, not below) and 50K.
Agree with you. And it's not super "new". Macro drives almost everything since a while. Hope BTC will be decorrelated one day, but probably not for now or in a near future. Macro + till the majority of people will keep to use/consider Bitcoin as a speculative asset, instead of an alternative monetary system, it will stay like this. We need much more time. But we can still make new ATHs during this transition. Hopefully.
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December 15, 2022, 08:25:51 PM |
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Some good discussion over the last 5-6 pages, a lot of OG’s posting, almost like the ol’ days. Less merit beggars who can barely type coherently in English.
Feeling nostalgic, good times!
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December 15, 2022, 08:38:14 PM Merited by LFC_Bitcoin (1) |
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Here is the ultimate irony though:Once mass layoffs being in Jan/Feb and the MSM confirms that "We are *definitely* in a recession now!", all markets (including bitcoin) will rally. Yep, rally. Makes total sense. my take: btc either already bottomed or might do so by March. Somewhere during q1 we will get a large surprise in inflation (on the downside). Stocks would initially crash fearing deflation and interest rates being too high. Fed will dilly dally for a month or so, then succumb and cut short term rates (Cramer would be screaming on CNBC again how "they just don't get it"). Of course, before doing so they would declare victory, alas, markets would respond to the cut with a ferocious downswing that would indicate that Fed was wrong again and raised too much. Bottom by Q2 in equities (bitcoin flat), then a gigantic rally in "everything" with bitcoin going up at least 2-3X (from today's prices). After that...hard to say.
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December 15, 2022, 08:43:26 PM Merited by hisslyness (1) |
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Hey, how is that supposed "Santa Claus Rally" looking so far, eh? You know, the one that the MSM financial news has been croning on about?
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December 15, 2022, 08:48:17 PM |
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Here is the ultimate irony though:Once mass layoffs being in Jan/Feb and the MSM confirms that "We are *definitely* in a recession now!", all markets (including bitcoin) will rally. Yep, rally. Makes total sense. my take: btc either already bottomed or might do so by March. Somewhere during q1 we will get a large surprise in inflation (on the downside). Stocks would initially crash fearing deflation and interest rates being too high. Fed will dilly dally for a month or so, then succumb and cut short term rates (Cramer would be screaming on CNBC again how "they just don't get it"). Of course, before doing so they would declare victory, alas, markets would respond to the cut with a ferocious downswing that would indicate that Fed was wrong again and raised too much. Bottom by Q2 in equities (bitcoin flat), then a gigantic rally in "everything" with bitcoin going up at least 2-3X (from today's prices). After that...hard to say. It could play out like that. Also note that markets normally front run *ahead* of what the Fed will do (with insider info, of course). I.E., they will rally 3-4 months ahead of a Fed rate cut because they are expecting a return to (fake) growth again. If the market temporarily tanks on a Fed cut announcement, it just means one last washout to rekt margin longs before moving up again.
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Calling the bottom @ $13550-$14550 on January 10th, 11th or 12th, wicking the 365 WMA, and closing the weekly candle above $15550. There Jay, choke on that.
gembitz already did us the honour, so if proudhon, mindrust, majormax or even r0ach can pay us a visit - that would be great.
Watching Graham Hancock’s Ancient Apocalypse series. Very excited to see such an excellent -truthful- investigation of pre-history events, compiled in a critical-thinker’s manner. [Ancient Aliens crap - is the MSM distorted version of the true story.] Free stream, fuck Netflix: https://ww22.123movies.ski/tv/ancient-apocalypse-90187We are all Atlanteans.
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