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November 04, 2025, 09:34:26 PM
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Well, S. Bessent said that some sectors are in recession.
It is possible that mr. Market is trying to convince J. Powell to definitely cut on Dec 10 (current chance 64-70%) and maybe give a 0.5% cut (current chance: 3 %).
If markets go down 10% or more beforehand, it (-0.5%) might happen.

EDIT: factually, bitcoin is in a bear market right now (by the classical definition of >20% off the top).
The only question is whether it is a short term bear or the 4-year cyclical bear.
I think it is the former, but we shall see.
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November 04, 2025, 09:38:39 PM

Well, S. Bessent said that some sectors are in recession.
It is possible that mr. Market is trying to convince J. Powell to definitely cut on Dec 10 (current chance 64-70%) and maybe give a 0.5% cut (current chance -3 %).
If markets go down 10% or more beforehand, it (-0.5%) might happen.

That's all the fuss about??? Where are the old days of CHINA BAN?  Roll Eyes
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November 04, 2025, 09:55:08 PM

People here are so strange. There was a time when this kind of performance was celebrated. Now if number does not go up all the time, panic and despair.  Cheesy
Get the fuck out of here with your WRONG characterizations about what is going on in this thread and/or with OGs on the forum..

Stop making shit up and repeating it over and over as if it were true (we have seen that bullshit in the past where newbies come to the thread and try to tell us what is happening as if they were some kinds of detached and neutral observer, and their simplified nonsense is not even true).



Guys are not panicking any worse than they ever panic.

There is always some sense of negativity, panic, and pissed-offed-ness that happens with any BTC price correction and/or any failure refusal of bitcoin to go straight up to the moon.

We do not have any higher level of negativity at this particular point than we have had in other BTC price corrections, even if you keep repeating it, as if our current level of negativity (negative sentiment) were some kind of a new thing.  At certain points in the past, we even had members (or was it just one) hiding under the cupboards with chocolate on their (his) face.
What are you talking about dude? People are panicking and saying that the bull run is over for days. That is not negativity? They are actually positive?  Cheesy Cheesy

We are all gonna die.
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What are you talking about dude? People are panicking and saying that the bull run is over for days. That is not negativity? They are actually positive?  Cheesy Cheesy
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We are all already dead.
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What are you talking about dude? People are panicking and saying that the bull run is over for days. That is not negativity? They are actually positive?  Cheesy Cheesy
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We are all already dead.
Alive, but dead inside.
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November 04, 2025, 10:24:45 PM

who bought up that fancy flavored ramen a few days back

big brain move - eating like a king now
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November 04, 2025, 10:43:03 PM

who bought up that fancy flavored ramen a few days back

big brain move - eating like a king now

Im water maxxing. No need for fancy expensive ramen.
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November 04, 2025, 10:45:17 PM

What are you talking about dude? People are panicking and saying that the bull run is over for days. That is not negativity? They are actually positive?  Cheesy Cheesy
We are all gonna die.
We are all already dead.
Alive, but dead inside.
Can we even die more than we already have?

who bought up that fancy flavored ramen a few days back

big brain move - eating like a king now

Im water maxxing. No need for fancy expensive ramen.
The market sentiment is so positive, it is time to try that 180 day water fast.  Cheesy
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November 04, 2025, 10:48:03 PM
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If it's all about OGs dumping, it should stop at 100k, right?

You need a meme for your post.

right?

right?


rrrrrriiiiiiiggggghhhtttt?

Something like this one:



Grinding wrong direction….
The grind continuous

Anyone bored yet?  and saying that nothing is happening in bitcoin?

@LFC_Bitcoin Instead of your red hat, a beautiful football is seen today...

I’m not handing out Merit for ass kissing when Bitcoin is dumping hard.

I am not in a good mood.

In other words:

"I don't mind handing out some smerits for ass kissing, but not today."  

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

we zoom out
we go log scale
we look at years / months
just to ignore the discount.

change the mindset. hodl.

Why not keep on buying?  HODL does not seem to be enough, unless you already reached a large enugh stash?  Are you considering that folks (representative normies) have a large enough bitcoin stash?  

What are the statistics?  How many coins do normies hold?

 What about you?  You have ONLY been registered here since July 2024.  Were you able to accumulate enough coins in that period of time in order to have enough coins to just HODL through these kinds of dippening times?

I am having a hard time imagining very many scenarios in which anyone who had gotten into bitcoin within the past couple of years would have enough bitcoin by now to just HODL from here on out without buying more from time to time.  Sure, it is possible, but sounds like a minority scenario to me.

The captchas are getting harder!
I’m still feeling it, it’s interesting how the media is starting to introduce the new themes;
- the qe messaging
- perhaps peace deals in eu
- politicking out of deadlock, what worse than hunger, homelessness?

I think we are about to have the god candle Smiley
Stack and hodl!!!!!
So many hodlers in the forum. I dont understand a one thing. Can someone explain me one thing? Why holders are so active at the speculation part of the forum? If I would be a hodler, a hardcore holder I would not watch the price. Why would I? That makes no sense to me. Just forget about the price that would be easier to hodl. Wouldnt it?

You have been registered on the forum since July 2016, and you still have not figured out how to buy some bitcoin in case it catches on?

Imagine if you had started to buy bitcoin for $10 per week since the date of your registration, you might have had invested around $5k by now and accumulated around 1.5 BTC.. so even if you would not be rich, you would still have some concrete ideas in regards what it is like to accumulate and HODL bitcoin.

Experience tends to be one of the better of teachers.  You might want to try accumulating bitcoin rather than asking what it is like to accumulate bitcoin.

$100k about to break, panic is everywhere. I am disappointed at the people but I am also laughing.  Grin This is a great shakeout moment.  Smiley\
So many hodlers in the forum. I dont understand a one thing. Can someone explain me one thing? Why holders are so active at the speculation part of the forum? If I would be a hodler, a hardcore holder I would not watch the price. Why would I? That makes no sense to me. Just forget about the price that would be easier to hodl. Wouldnt it?
Bias from what you see. Most hodlers are not here and they are quiet.  Wink

There is nothing wrong with being a low coiner who is accumulating bitcoin and taking advantage of (and even excited about) large BTC price drops.  

At the same time, your desires to chide HODLers and to characterize us as losers (even though most folks who have been accumulating bitcoin for a year or more would likely feel like they are losing more they are gaining when the BTC price drops) shows you as lacking in seriousness, and perhaps hanging out here to just troll this otherwise lovely thread.

you seem so sure, you should sell everything and buy back lower, no?
With 24% capital gains it’s too much of a risk. I sold enough Bitcoin for six years of life expenses. In hindsight I should have sold more over 120k but I thought we would hit at least 150k this year.

Love to be wrong but this looks like frustrated OG’s and four year cycle believers dumping due to lack of bullish price action. It’s causing severe selling pressure. I think the bull run is over.

Clearly I hope it’s not as I become significantly wealthier with uppity price action. I just say what I see though without bias.
Bull run? What bull run? I didn't notice there was one.  Grin

Anyway, it seems I missed the third cycle top in a row (2017, 2021, 2025). I hold my bags and will keep holding for at least 4 more years. I still have some hope that we are wrong and the top is still ahead of us (November? December?) there's still a chance...

Yep..

In bitcoinlandia, don't blink.

You might miss something.

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What are you talking about dude? People are panicking and saying that the bull run is over for days. That is not negativity? They are actually positive?  Cheesy Cheesy

I already said it.

The more you post, the more you show that you are full of shit in terms of trying to spin matters.  Of course you are not the only one, in your choice to exaggerate and act like you are some kind of a smart know it all, and trying to act as if the negative sentiment about bitcoin's negative price is worse this time than it has been in previous times, when it is not, and has not been.  You are spinning a largely irrelevant point with an attempt to denigrate OG members and with a kind of recency bias in your characterization of facts that are hardly easy to prove in either direction, even though you want to assert changes in sentiment as if they were some kind of a fact that you have observed in your ultimate wisdom.

So fuck off with your ongoing and incessant spin. It is likely mean-spirited, disingenuous and unnecessary..  

Even though sure, no problem, I cannot stop you from posting whatever exaggerated spin bullshit that you like - even though, it is not the first time that you have been engaged in such seeming pushing of an agenda spinning, like the earlier line of arguments that you were making in regards to people needing to rise to a certain level of knowledge before they would be eligible to speak and/or participate in discussions about (or current debates around) Op Return matters.

Okay, what is the reason for the fire sale?

Bought more, because why not. Grin

A likely taking advantage of momentum.. and just because, some folks are easily shaken out of their coins with a nonsense (and premature) belief that the bull run is over... so get them to sell early.. the dumb weak-handed fucks.

Move on.  There is nothing to see here.

factually, bitcoin is in a bear market right now (by the classical definition of >20% off the top).
The only question is whether it is a short term bear or the 4-year cyclical bear.
I think it is the former, but we shall see.

There is no such thing as "short term bear."  That is called a correction.. but sure, maybe we are arguing semantics, even though I think calling a correction a bear is misleading... even though sure, it is possible that the correction will end up either leading to a bear or already having had transitioned into a bear without us realizing such transition to have had already happened.

Another thing is that bitcoin does not follow classical definitions, so it would probably be better if you would at least attempt to customize your market analysis framework to some of the unique aspects of bitcoin that contribute to its price performance, including but not limited to it being a paradigm shifting asset class that is disrupting a lot of industries - especially since it is both a world-wide decentralized money system and a decentralized information transmission system all built into one.. quite unique to have unstoppable money and information on a world-wide basis and various incumbent actors trying to figure out how to deal with it.. They are torn between trying to control it (if they can - perhaps through a variety of means including cooptation and/or divide and conquer)  and/or profiting from it (or preventing certain others from profiting from it - good luck with that).
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Huge $113 Billion volume in 24 hours  Shocked
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who bought up that fancy flavored ramen a few days back

big brain move - eating like a king now

Im water maxxing. No need for fancy expensive ramen.

Water? Fish fornicate in it. There are much better beverages. Also screw the ramen.



Buy when you can, sell only when you absolutely must. Ignore the price.

Enjoy life.
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November 04, 2025, 11:25:25 PM

People here are so strange. There was a time when this kind of performance was celebrated. Now if number does not go up all the time, panic and despair.  Cheesy
Get the fuck out of here with your WRONG characterizations about what is going on in this thread and/or with OGs on the forum..

Stop making shit up and repeating it over and over as if it were true (we have seen that bullshit in the past where newbies come to the thread and try to tell us what is happening as if they were some kinds of detached and neutral observer, and their simplified nonsense is not even true).

Guys are not panicking any worse than they ever panic.

There is always some sense of negativity, panic, and pissed-offed-ness that happens with any BTC price correction and/or any failure refusal of bitcoin to go straight up to the moon.

We do not have any higher level of negativity at this particular point than we have had in other BTC price corrections, even if you keep repeating it, as if our current level of negativity (negative sentiment) were some kind of a new thing.  At certain points in the past, we even had members (or was it just one) hiding under the cupboards with chocolate on their (his) face.
What are you talking about dude? People are panicking and saying that the bull run is over for days. That is not negativity? They are actually positive?  Cheesy Cheesy
We are all gonna die.

Ah ha!!!!!    Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

Evidence of an OG pessimist spouting out OG pessimism.

I am going to catalogue your negative-Nancy sentiment(s) so that I can add it to the tabulation of the rest of the mounting pile of negative Nancy-isms that are (from my perspective - BitHodlers hired me as his assistant cataloguer) greatly exceeding historical levels.

who bought up that fancy flavored ramen a few days back

big brain move - eating like a king now

Stop being so optimistic, you OG bitcoiner.  Angry Angry Angry

You are ruining the Negative-Nancy sentiment tabulation and compilings.    You should either delete your post or edit the post to reflect your actual sentiment.  Stop faking it.  "We" know that in reality on the deep inside, you are considerably and notably sad about recent BTC price moves and your contemplation of its possible future price moves.
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November 04, 2025, 11:29:37 PM

I already said it.

The more you post, the more you show that you are full of shit in terms of trying to spin matters.  Of course you are not the only one, in your choice to exaggerate and act like you are some kind of a smart know it all, and trying to act as if the negative sentiment about bitcoin's negative price is worse this time than it has been in previous times, when it is not, and has not been.  You are spinning a largely irrelevant point with an attempt to denigrate OG members and with a kind of recency bias in your characterization of facts that are hardly easy to prove in either direction, even though you want to assert changes in sentiment as if they were some kind of a fact that you have observed in your ultimate wisdom.

So fuck off with your ongoing and incessant spin. It is likely mean-spirited, disingenuous and unnecessary..  
What is with this crazy talk? I have no idea how it was before in actual negativity and I barely know anything. I know mostly the positive times and recently many people here have been very depressive. That is a fact. The posts are there. I am asking for more positivity and even that you call mean-spirited. How is that not crazy talk? Should I ask people to become more depressive instead?

Blaming me that others are writing that the bull run is over, only because I am new. Outstanding OG behavior.  Grin Is the market performance affecting your positivity too? Take a chill pill, maybe ask the mushroom guy for some assistance.  Grin
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You have been added to the positive Nancy tabulation and compilings.
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November 04, 2025, 11:48:55 PM

It will be interesting to see the leverage data when all of the dust settles. I wonder if people are adding to their short positions or taking profits during this drop. If they are adding to their short positions then they are going to have to buy at some point in the future to close out and take profits. I imagine that will cause a bounce. It’s been a pretty painful month for BTC (-17%).
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November 04, 2025, 11:52:55 PM

who bought up that fancy flavored ramen a few days back

big brain move - eating like a king now

Im water maxxing. No need for fancy expensive ramen.

Water? Fish fornicate in it. There are much better beverages. Also screw the ramen.



Buy when you can, sell only when you absolutely must. Ignore the price.

Enjoy life.

This is the exact truth.

And that might be the most beautiful ribeye I have ever seen.  I am pretty sure my wife would leave me for it.
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who bought up that fancy flavored ramen a few days back

big brain move - eating like a king now

Im water maxxing. No need for fancy expensive ramen.

Water? Fish fornicate in it. There are much better beverages. Also screw the ramen.




Buy when you can, sell only when you absolutely must. Ignore the price.

Enjoy life.

Look at that marbling...

Not all water tastes the same. Try the water if you ever decide to go to Austria.
In Salzburg they have drinking fountains everywhere and it tastes incredible.

How are you going to buy more Bitcoin if you don't tighten the budget? Might as well starve to buy more BTC.
Or is that somehow unreasonable?   Tongue
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