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May 19, 2014, 05:09:13 PM

Why should volatlity decrease?

because maybe it's the FED itself who is manipulating the price in a flat narrow band?
Alternatively, it must be someone else. Any guess on who/why?

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May 19, 2014, 05:10:30 PM

Why should volatlity decrease?

because maybe it's the FED itself who is manipulating the price in a flat narrow band?
Alternatively, it must be someone else. Any guess on who/why?

When there's more money trading/holding and the price rises, it takes an increasing amount of money to move the price up or down.
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May 19, 2014, 05:24:56 PM

You really would have to have a monumental lack of patience to dump 500 coins at once into this market. At least do 250, let the bids fill in again and then do the other 250.

what if you're trying to sell several thousand coins and have been doing so in ~500 coins chunks over the past several days?


you would still be better off going slower than 500 coin lots. And yes I agree that is exactly what someone is doing, either a miner or someone who owns a lot of coins from somewhere else - although one hopes that Stamp might have refused one particular exchange operator an account.



I agree that it would be clever to spread out the sell chunks... but it seems to be nearly pure speculation to suggest that the sales are coming from one coin holder.  We do NOT really know such.. so we are speculating.... even though there could be several sellers.. who just are attempting to get in their sale intermediately before someone else gets in... and yes, on low volume these various sales bursts seem to show up (but they are still occurring on high volume, too).
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May 19, 2014, 05:28:07 PM

Is anyone else noticing that we are like sitting right snug below the bear triangle line? we go up $2 and we are on top of the line... breakout imminent if we just go sideways like we have been doing... is it finally time?
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May 19, 2014, 05:29:24 PM

Is anyone else noticing that we are like sitting right snug below the bear triangle line? we go up $2 and we are on top of the line... breakout imminent if we just go sideways like we have been doing... is it finally time?

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May 19, 2014, 05:34:09 PM

Is anyone else noticing that we are like sitting right snug below the bear triangle line? we go up $2 and we are on top of the line... breakout imminent if we just go sideways like we have been doing... is it finally time?

Depending which chart you use, we are over the trend from March 13th.
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May 19, 2014, 05:37:46 PM

Bear is preparing to the fight.

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May 19, 2014, 05:57:42 PM


Only as it always does, as part of the hype cycle, only to rise another order of magnitude on the next cycle.    I suspect BTC will still be gaining value long after I've moved into a privacy-enhanced successor coin.


Speaking of privacy enhanced coins, did you join the Monero train the other week, I'm sure it was you who mentioned it and I had a look. Bought a few thousand at 0.0003 and just sold a chunk at the top of a pump to 0.005 on Polinex moments ago.

Insane growth. Made up for the last 6 months of BTC prices and lack of volatility.
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May 19, 2014, 08:05:25 PM

Chartbuddy talks to himself.
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May 19, 2014, 08:07:43 PM

^^^ Chartbuddy keeping it real with 3 in a row  Smiley
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May 19, 2014, 08:10:02 PM

We need to end this "continuous growth paradigm" that is partly a consequence of (or at least intricately intertwined with) the type of money we use. Transitioning to using sound money is a big step towards becoming more resource efficient. The psychopathic powers that be are already shitting their pants regarding their debt regimes threatening to fall apart (Beligum), trying to start ww3 to get out of that deadlock they have maneuvered themselves into. I hope the people of the world will be prudent enough to see through the false flags (example: chemical attacks in syria last year) and violent provocations by payed mercenaries. I also hope our whistleblowers will keep informing us.

I think the easiest and most effective step we can take as people of the world in order to scale down our natural resource usage and to avoid bloody conflict is to transition to using crypto. It'll force governments into fiscal prudence eventually and it'll force actors making bad decisions to suffer the consequences of their actions, as it should be.

Glad to see you took the time to bring this topic to the Troll Wall observer thread as well Smiley

The potential for Bitcoin/crypto to facilitate a transition to a sustainable economy (as opposed to an infinite growth oriented one) through providing an alternative deflationary monetary system is a huge deal. HUGE DEAL.

The fantastic thing here is that this needn't rely on the prudence of a great many people (like you are calling for), not even their general intelligence. Instead by simply providing a superior system with lower friction, transaction cost and greater control and sovereignty over your funds people will be attracted to the superior system (see Greshams Law ) and start preferring it.

you just put a big smile on my face ;-). Let's hope it'll work out that way.

The superior system meanwhile provides incentives for responsible fiscal and economic behavior - namely SAVING (pejoratively known as "hoarding") money and SAVING resources.

I make a distinction between saving and hoarding: hoarding is "keeping under the matress" while saving really is "investing" (optionally via entities specializing in this (savings & loans)). I think it's is important to make this distinction because for saving to fulfil it's purpose, namely sending a price signal by lowering interest rates (the price of money) and effecting investment into higher efficiency, innovation, etc, the saved money need to be loaned out or somehow else put to use in the economy as capital. If money is just hoarded, this function isn't being fulfilled.

Can you guys agree with this distinction / view?

Now, implementing "savings & loan" businesses in the bitcoin world is extremely hard, because it contradicts (or at least seems to contradict) the trust-free and potentially privacy-preserving nature of bitcoin. After all: you need some kind of pressure for the borrower to pay back. There have been many attempts to solve this, but most attempts got drowned in scams.

Maybe hoarding is enough of a signal (less buying) to regulate economic activity? I'm not sure.
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May 19, 2014, 08:22:04 PM

must be getting close to a bottom of some sort if chart buddy can have 3 posts in a row....

interest is waning!!!
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May 19, 2014, 08:24:14 PM

must be getting close to a bottom of some sort if chart buddy can have 3 posts in a row....

interest is waning!!!

Interest been waning for months and months. Need a bit more than that to get me excited! Tongue
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May 19, 2014, 08:25:18 PM

must be getting close to a bottom of some sort if chart buddy can have 3 posts in a row....

interest is waning!!!

so many trolls in here its barely worth posting... that said... we are actually over the bear trend line.... broken through horizontally at 449.85...... and nobody is witnessing it... fine by me... im just glad to be out from under it, or at least closer than we have ever been before....
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May 19, 2014, 08:29:29 PM

All my computing life I have been taught and taught students how to compute things in the most efficient way.

Then you must really love Bitcoin. CPUs in 2010 where .1 J/MH, and now just 4 years later we're running ASICS at 1 J/GH. That's an efficiency improvement of 1,000,000% in just 4 years. Where else do you see such massive improvements in efficiency?
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May 19, 2014, 08:41:42 PM

sell sell sell Cheesy
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What's up with the hate on this guy?? he seems to be one of them brighter guys
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