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April 14, 2017, 10:09:10 PM
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Mostly no because there are 2 cases either the mlm wants to run for long run or scam in short run. As for now most of them are for short term so investing your money will simply go in vein. I hope you remember forexparadise they ran for some 2 years and then finally disappeared.

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April 15, 2017, 12:08:07 PM
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MLM are not always "scams".

One of the best examples is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avon_Products
It is by definition a a multi-level marketing company.

There are a lot of accusations about it but there is nobody who will claim it is a ponzi scheme.

And about "early stage". How we decide what is early if we talk about a business established in 1886?

The MLM that we are discussing here are the ones that's increasing in population these days just like MMM company. Multi-level marketing like Avon have legit products and people can only earn from selling those. They don't have to recruit anyone and I doubt that the members will earn from recruiting somebody else since that will just increase the competition in their area. Sellers don't want that, they want to be the only seller in their place so people will only buy from them. This is the MLM that you know is legit. The one that really requires you to sell product and nothing else. MLM's that's discussed here only allows you to earn through recruitment of new members.

Multi-level marketing aka: a pyramid scheme is never a legitimate business. Avon, Tupperware, those stupid smelly things, candles and shit are all scams to try and lure housewives into buying more useless crap for their home so they can be that stereotypical 50's house wife.

Obviously I'm not investing in that crap. It's worthless. Just because something had a real physical product doesn't mean it's not a shady awful crap-on-your-shoe business.

Such companies promise very good earnings and impose unnecessary products. This is only for those who want easy money.
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April 15, 2017, 12:22:14 PM
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Investing in some MLM scam might be a good idea, if you enter in it quickly, freshly after creation of website.
Indirectly, you're helping those sites to scam and stole their money also it might affect to Bitcoin's starter. We should not invest in those sites in the first place because you will earn nothing yet just losses.


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April 15, 2017, 01:25:21 PM
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Investing in some MLM scam might be a good idea, if you enter in it quickly, freshly after creation of website.
Indirectly, you're helping those sites to scam and stole their money also it might affect to Bitcoin's starter. We should not invest in those sites in the first place because you will earn nothing yet just losses.

Yes. You do not need to support fraudulent schemes of earning, you need to earn honest way. If there is no demand, then all these scammers will simply cease to exist.
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April 15, 2017, 02:33:56 PM
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I partially agree about karma, but I look at it from a real point of view. Encouraging MLM scam in early stage even if high chance of profit means you make MLM scam more and more successful, bring losses to more people and profit only to few. For long-term success especially for bitcoin it needs more people profit and few people lose.
Lol you do not have to think about a reply or karma. You've been trying to get the advantage that with as upline, and profits will worhted with what you're doing

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April 15, 2017, 02:40:26 PM
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In the early stage? you mean the person who will not know that what is MLM then my answer is that they will invest if they have some money to invest and their friends convince them to invest in it.

While if you are talking about the site early stage for experts and you mean that in the start they will like to pay then I think it is also not good because it is just relying on admin choice and will be a path to the owner to run away as if they will get money they will run and if no one will invest they will not have anything to run.


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April 15, 2017, 02:43:58 PM
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I do not prefer nor like any of the MLM scheme beacuse is designed in such a manner that I know insult not be able to achieve the targets . And wasting money unnecessary is something which needs to be avoided .

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April 15, 2017, 02:51:32 PM
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MLM are not always "scams".

One of the best examples is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avon_Products
It is by definition a a multi-level marketing company.

There are a lot of accusations about it but there is nobody who will claim it is a ponzi scheme.

And about "early stage". How we decide what is early if we talk about a business established in 1886?

The MLM that we are discussing here are the ones that's increasing in population these days just like MMM company. Multi-level marketing like Avon have legit products and people can only earn from selling those. They don't have to recruit anyone and I doubt that the members will earn from recruiting somebody else since that will just increase the competition in their area. Sellers don't want that, they want to be the only seller in their place so people will only buy from them. This is the MLM that you know is legit. The one that really requires you to sell product and nothing else. MLM's that's discussed here only allows you to earn through recruitment of new members.

Multi-level marketing aka: a pyramid scheme is never a legitimate business. Avon, Tupperware, those stupid smelly things, candles and shit are all scams to try and lure housewives into buying more useless crap for their home so they can be that stereotypical 50's house wife.

Obviously I'm not investing in that crap. It's worthless. Just because something had a real physical product doesn't mean it's not a shady awful crap-on-your-shoe business.

Such companies promise very good earnings and impose unnecessary products. This is only for those who want easy money.
They're really dumb to believe of that promises by the scammer will become true in the future. all of the thing is need our effot to gain it. all of the ponzi is about a dream for every lazy person.

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April 15, 2017, 03:05:20 PM
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In my opinion, there are legal MLMs which usually give back value for the money invested by members via usable and effective products. However, of course, there are those that are just scam types that though have products the value maybe not much compared to the entry money required.

Now, there are really programs that are ponzi in nature meaning they won't last even for months. And we can see them all over online...some can die in a matter of weeks and then another new program will come in with some degree of variations and sometimes new features.

Knowing that something may not really last and can leave people holding empty bags, then I guess it would not be right o be a part of the program at all. It would be unethical, at the very least.
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April 16, 2017, 01:45:38 PM
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In my opinion, there are legal MLMs which usually give back value for the money invested by members via usable and effective products. However, of course, there are those that are just scam types that though have products the value maybe not much compared to the entry money required.

Now, there are really programs that are ponzi in nature meaning they won't last even for months. And we can see them all over online...some can die in a matter of weeks and then another new program will come in with some degree of variations and sometimes new features.

Knowing that something may not really last and can leave people holding empty bags, then I guess it would not be right o be a part of the program at all. It would be unethical, at the very least.

How does an MLM scam with usable products different from an MLM scam with a garbage product? I don't see any difference since the whole structure of the two still remains the same. Almost everything can be seen as a ponzi scam. Literally every zero-sum market can be seen as a ponzi scam. But looking at MLM's structure, there's a pyramiding scheme happening and you only get money whenever you recruit somebody which means it's upright a ponzi scam.

They are using the newcomers' money to pay their people therefore it's a ponzi scam regardless of the quality of the product they are giving out.

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April 17, 2017, 08:35:33 PM
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In my opinion, there are legal MLMs which usually give back value for the money invested by members via usable and effective products. However, of course, there are those that are just scam types that though have products the value maybe not much compared to the entry money required.

Now, there are really programs that are ponzi in nature meaning they won't last even for months. And we can see them all over online...some can die in a matter of weeks and then another new program will come in with some degree of variations and sometimes new features.

Knowing that something may not really last and can leave people holding empty bags, then I guess it would not be right o be a part of the program at all. It would be unethical, at the very least.

How does an MLM scam with usable products different from an MLM scam with a garbage product? I don't see any difference since the whole structure of the two still remains the same. Almost everything can be seen as a ponzi scam. Literally every zero-sum market can be seen as a ponzi scam. But looking at MLM's structure, there's a pyramiding scheme happening and you only get money whenever you recruit somebody which means it's upright a ponzi scam.

They are using the newcomers' money to pay their people therefore it's a ponzi scam regardless of the quality of the product they are giving out.

I participate in the international company MLM. The basis of this business is the crypto currency. You can buy a certificate for 0.01 bitcoin and sell it at the same price to new people. This is a very good way to earn. And there are many people who are interested in this business.
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April 19, 2017, 12:36:25 PM
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In my opinion, there are legal MLMs which usually give back value for the money invested by members via usable and effective products. However, of course, there are those that are just scam types that though have products the value maybe not much compared to the entry money required.

Now, there are really programs that are ponzi in nature meaning they won't last even for months. And we can see them all over online...some can die in a matter of weeks and then another new program will come in with some degree of variations and sometimes new features.

Knowing that something may not really last and can leave people holding empty bags, then I guess it would not be right o be a part of the program at all. It would be unethical, at the very least.

How does an MLM scam with usable products different from an MLM scam with a garbage product? I don't see any difference since the whole structure of the two still remains the same. Almost everything can be seen as a ponzi scam. Literally every zero-sum market can be seen as a ponzi scam. But looking at MLM's structure, there's a pyramiding scheme happening and you only get money whenever you recruit somebody which means it's upright a ponzi scam.

They are using the newcomers' money to pay their people therefore it's a ponzi scam regardless of the quality of the product they are giving out.
Even with Any MLM company with usable or non-zero-value product doing business without super marked up prices is running a scam.
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April 19, 2017, 05:16:05 PM
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MLM are not always "scams".

One of the best examples is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avon_Products
It is by definition a a multi-level marketing company.

There are a lot of accusations about it but there is nobody who will claim it is a ponzi scheme.

And about "early stage". How we decide what is early if we talk about a business established in 1886?
But those are the exception rather than the rule since that is an international company it has been able to maintain that way to market its products but unless you have that big of a market MLM is probably not going to work and that is why MLM also has a bad image in the forum and other places.

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April 19, 2017, 05:28:36 PM
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MLM are not always "scams".

One of the best examples is this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avon_Products
It is by definition a a multi-level marketing company.

There are a lot of accusations about it but there is nobody who will claim it is a ponzi scheme.

And about "early stage". How we decide what is early if we talk about a business established in 1886?
But those are the exception rather than the rule since that is an international company it has been able to maintain that way to market its products but unless you have that big of a market MLM is probably not going to work and that is why MLM also has a bad image in the forum and other places.
that's the problem its been tag as a bad business and peoples thinking can't be change after a lots of incidents already happen around,
MLM should not be tolerated even you will able to earn a lot think of someone who will be left behind after the downfall happen, can
you imagine yourself enjoying while others are crying because they lose their hard earned money?

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April 19, 2017, 05:57:29 PM
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MLM is the cancer in the world of affiliate marketing, started with a view of something innovative and interesting MLM ended being nothing other than a huge ponzi. Referer has just one aim to make the money from their referrals and the whole system is nothing but a huge scam of money where the lowest ones in the ladder lose.
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April 19, 2017, 06:21:35 PM
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I would never be attracted to invest in MLM. even though it was profitable in the early stages, but the risk is very high as gamble, and I prefer to lose because of gambling than lose in MLM site, because it's more painful.

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April 22, 2017, 08:18:45 AM
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MLM is the cancer in the world of affiliate marketing, started with a view of something innovative and interesting MLM ended being nothing other than a huge ponzi. Referer has just one aim to make the money from their referrals and the whole system is nothing but a huge scam of money where the lowest ones in the ladder lose.

If you take a look at it, at all market that are zero-sum game, the weak and unfortunate ones loses money and those that are clever enough to take advantage of the situation are the only ones that really make money. For example, in an MLM that's built by referrals, you can simply go to a place where people don't know about MLM yet or a place where there's not that much MLM companies yet.

I really believe that people that are an upline of a certain city did this. They came from the city and then moved out to the province just to earn money from their MLM scam.

Multi-Level Marketing is kind of a genius plan to make a company work since there will be many sellers in a company. Unfortunately, people turned it into a ponzi scam which is kind of what we should expect.
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April 22, 2017, 08:34:41 AM
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Dude, they are smart. They have calculated all. They can run away anytime. Even after the opening of the MLM.

Do to others whatever you would like them to do to you Smiley
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April 22, 2017, 09:15:40 AM
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For me i would say yes i will invest at early stage of an MLM scam.Still its arisk but it has higher chance of getting paid as what i observed in mlm scams,they pay people for the first month of two then runs away after.

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April 22, 2017, 10:27:54 AM
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It sure is tempting to invest into a high paying MLM, especially at an early stage. But I would recommend you not to invest or if you can't resist the temptation. Then invest a small amount which you don't mind losing. Perhaps if things go as per plan, you might be able to make some money. But it better to avoid them so these scams will not come in future if everybody avoids them.

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