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April 17, 2013, 06:08:11 AM
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There are some very generous bidders on that list.

it kind of is the only thing on the market in a way

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April 17, 2013, 06:47:35 AM
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Even if Avalon Batch3 ships in 3 months it will still make 2.5times more BTC in first month than the 10Gh/s Asicminer if received tomorrow and at the same price as Avalon. After that you got a unit that 6 times slower
Now they are auctioning off 10x10 units in 3 days, it should take them 180 days or 6 month to auction off 600 units, which was just one batch from Avalon.

BTW for that price a pic would of been nice.

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April 17, 2013, 06:54:13 AM
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Even if Avalon Batch3 ships in 3 months it will still make 2.5times more BTC in first month than the 10Gh/s Asicminer if received tomorrow and at the same price as Avalon. After that you got a unit that 6 times slower
Now they are auctioning off 10x10 units in 3 days, it should take them 180 days or 6 month to auction off 600 units, which was just one batch from Avalon.

BTW for that price a pic would of been nice.

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April 17, 2013, 07:19:06 AM
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I appreciate everyone who selflessly donates their BTC towards securing the network. Once the hardware is cheaper and widely available I will also pitch in.
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April 17, 2013, 07:30:08 AM
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These look hard to setup, as these are just barebone boards - also there is some mention about pool setup in the faq. I guess only for seasoned miners. I guess about 15-20 btc per board is fair price, given 3-module avalon batch 3 was about 76btc shipped.
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April 17, 2013, 07:35:53 AM
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These look hard to setup, as these are just barebone boards - also there is some mention about pool setup in the faq. I guess only for seasoned miners. I guess about 15-20 btc per board is fair price, given 3-module avalon batch 3 was about 76btc shipped.

they are easier than you think

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April 17, 2013, 07:45:06 AM
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These look hard to setup, as these are just barebone boards - also there is some mention about pool setup in the faq. I guess only for seasoned miners. I guess about 15-20 btc per board is fair price, given 3-module avalon batch 3 was about 76btc shipped.

they are easier than you think

dont be afraid

These are beyond my pay grade already anyway.  Sad
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April 17, 2013, 08:05:41 AM
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These look hard to setup, as these are just barebone boards - also there is some mention about pool setup in the faq. I guess only for seasoned miners. I guess about 15-20 btc per board is fair price, given 3-module avalon batch 3 was about 76btc shipped.

they are easier than you think

dont be afraid

These are beyond my pay grade already anyway.  Sad

they are beyond anyone's paygrade if they are being reasonable.

goes to show what riches can go to someone if they bring us more choices to buy asic machines.


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April 17, 2013, 09:13:09 AM
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Waaay to expensive....50-60 BTC/board .... They are even more expensive than FPGAs....
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April 17, 2013, 09:14:41 AM
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The price blew up pretty quick as expected... These are going to go to people with too much money already.
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April 17, 2013, 05:09:16 PM
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Elsewhere people are still buying MMQs. That is like 15 BTC per 1 GH/s at the current exchange rate.  I wouldn't be surprised if this auction went to 150 BTC.

I think the same... the whole communication about the price is too high only founds on the assumption that the difficulty will rise very high. I dont believe this in the near future. First, Asicminer cant possibly deploy 250TH. Its too much for the net, the >50 attack comes between and selling them all would only lead to Asicminer mining themselves being more and more worthless. So selling will be limited.
Then... which Asiccompany was able to meet their promises always? Asicminer had plans to be way further, BFL should have ship since a long time... but now everyone assumes this will happen in the next weeks?
I dont think so. I think even with 100BTC the buyer will make its break even and then pure profit.

I might be wrong but the past seems to show that the plans of asiccompanies mostly not come true. Even though i would love if Asicminer would be able to deploy much more hashinpower.

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April 17, 2013, 05:19:33 PM
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Elsewhere people are still buying MMQs. That is like 15 BTC per 1 GH/s at the current exchange rate.  I wouldn't be surprised if this auction went to 150 BTC.

I think the same... the whole communication about the price is too high only founds on the assumption that the difficulty will rise very high. I dont believe this in the near future. First, Asicminer cant possibly deploy 250TH. Its too much for the net, the >50 attack comes between and selling them all would only lead to Asicminer mining themselves being more and more worthless. So selling will be limited.
Then... which Asiccompany was able to meet their promises always? Asicminer had plans to be way further, BFL should have ship since a long time... but now everyone assumes this will happen in the next weeks?
I dont think so. I think even with 100BTC the buyer will make its break even and then pure profit.

I might be wrong but the past seems to show that the plans of asiccompanies mostly not come true. Even though i would love if Asicminer would be able to deploy much more hashinpower.

Keep in mind ASICMINER'ss options are not just limited to 1) online 250 TH/s 2) sell 250 TH/s. I believe their goal is to online sufficient hardware to maintain a certain percentage of the network. Because Avalon/BFL are so slow to the market, ASICMINER could sell 100 TH/s and online 150 TH/s and not pose a 50% attack. I also imagine BFL would see a massive wave of refunds if ASICMINER starts selling their 10 GH/s boards via a normal website shopping cart. That might spur BFL along a bit as they see their potential profits plummet over time.
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April 17, 2013, 05:30:21 PM
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Elsewhere people are still buying MMQs. That is like 15 BTC per 1 GH/s at the current exchange rate.  I wouldn't be surprised if this auction went to 150 BTC.

I think the same... the whole communication about the price is too high only founds on the assumption that the difficulty will rise very high. I dont believe this in the near future. First, Asicminer cant possibly deploy 250TH. Its too much for the net, the >50 attack comes between and selling them all would only lead to Asicminer mining themselves being more and more worthless. So selling will be limited.
Then... which Asiccompany was able to meet their promises always? Asicminer had plans to be way further, BFL should have ship since a long time... but now everyone assumes this will happen in the next weeks?
I dont think so. I think even with 100BTC the buyer will make its break even and then pure profit.

I might be wrong but the past seems to show that the plans of asiccompanies mostly not come true. Even though i would love if Asicminer would be able to deploy much more hashinpower.

Keep in mind ASICMINER'ss options are not just limited to 1) online 250 TH/s 2) sell 250 TH/s. I believe their goal is to online sufficient hardware to maintain a certain percentage of the network. Because Avalon/BFL are so slow to the market, ASICMINER could sell 100 TH/s and online 150 TH/s and not pose a 50% attack. I also imagine BFL would see a massive wave of refunds if ASICMINER starts selling their 10 GH/s boards via a normal website shopping cart. That might spur BFL along a bit as they see their potential profits plummet over time.

Youre right... Asicminer could still hold the majority of mining power and sell so much to push competition out. The problem is that they would need to create many many machines. 25000 Erupter Blades with 10GH/s each. This sounds too much to be manageable in a short timeframe. When i see the speed of the past deployment when it still gone forward... But maybe they surprise...

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April 17, 2013, 05:42:21 PM
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Elsewhere people are still buying MMQs. That is like 15 BTC per 1 GH/s at the current exchange rate.  I wouldn't be surprised if this auction went to 150 BTC.

I think the same... the whole communication about the price is too high only founds on the assumption that the difficulty will rise very high. I dont believe this in the near future. First, Asicminer cant possibly deploy 250TH. Its too much for the net, the >50 attack comes between and selling them all would only lead to Asicminer mining themselves being more and more worthless. So selling will be limited.
Then... which Asiccompany was able to meet their promises always? Asicminer had plans to be way further, BFL should have ship since a long time... but now everyone assumes this will happen in the next weeks?
I dont think so. I think even with 100BTC the buyer will make its break even and then pure profit.

I might be wrong but the past seems to show that the plans of asiccompanies mostly not come true. Even though i would love if Asicminer would be able to deploy much more hashinpower.

Keep in mind ASICMINER'ss options are not just limited to 1) online 250 TH/s 2) sell 250 TH/s. I believe their goal is to online sufficient hardware to maintain a certain percentage of the network. Because Avalon/BFL are so slow to the market, ASICMINER could sell 100 TH/s and online 150 TH/s and not pose a 50% attack. I also imagine BFL would see a massive wave of refunds if ASICMINER starts selling their 10 GH/s boards via a normal website shopping cart. That might spur BFL along a bit as they see their potential profits plummet over time.

Youre right... Asicminer could still hold the majority of mining power and sell so much to push competition out. The problem is that they would need to create many many machines. 25000 Erupter Blades with 10GH/s each. This sounds too much to be manageable in a short timeframe. When i see the speed of the past deployment when it still gone forward... But maybe they surprise...

Manufacturing the blades is the easy part. Setting them up though and powering them.. that is ~1300 kW/hr of power for 15,000 blades. That's quite the powerbill =)
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April 17, 2013, 05:50:07 PM
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Manufacturing the blades is the easy part. Setting them up though and powering them.. that is ~1300 kW/hr of power for 15,000 blades. That's quite the powerbill =)

Thats why they had problems with power supply. But in the next days they will get their professional data center power supply as far as i read.
I hope youre right with the speedy deployment... the shareprice of Asicminer went from 0.79 to 1.678 at the moment. So the auctions and the awaited deployment already has effects...

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