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February 10, 2017, 07:47:08 PM
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I think if you can't do a simple google then you're probably too stupid to use bitcoins. If you really can't figure out that bitcoins can be broken down to 8 decimal places can you really secure a wallet properly? Can you really send a transaction? Do you even know how a computer works?

Go ahead and use mBTC. No one is stopping you. Let me know how many people you convert solely based on  the denomination of bitcoins you talk about.

Btw, in the metric system the base unit is a meter. How the fuck am I supposed to buy screws if they're all a meter long!?!?!? Bad logic. Anyone with that logic needs to be sterilized hahahaha.

Also, the gambling community always uses mBTC to make pots seem bigger than they are. Should they use Satoshis!? Holy shit 1 billion Satoshis!?!?!? Oh that's not actually a big pot at all... Huh... now I hate bitcoins. They aren't worth much. 1billion Satoshis can't buy me much at all.

It's not that people can't or won't understand these things, it's the fact that it's a psychological deterrent to them using bitcoin.  I believe it will come, but I'm just saying making it more appealing will increase the speed at which the masses adopt it. 

I know many of you "hardcores" don't care if the masses adopt, the fact is that if only people that really understood the nuts and bolts of bitcoin were the only ones that used it, you'd still be spending 10,000 of them for a couple pizzas.





You have to have some basic knowledge or you'll be posting stupid crap on here constantly. "Why isn't my transaction confirming!?" Because your fee was too low... ugh... here we go again...

Mass adoption won't be coming from talking in different denominations. That's what it comes down to.














 

 

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February 10, 2017, 07:56:55 PM
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I think if you can't do a simple google then you're probably too stupid to use bitcoins. If you really can't figure out that bitcoins can be broken down to 8 decimal places can you really secure a wallet properly? Can you really send a transaction? Do you even know how a computer works?

Go ahead and use mBTC. No one is stopping you. Let me know how many people you convert solely based on  the denomination of bitcoins you talk about.

Btw, in the metric system the base unit is a meter. How the fuck am I supposed to buy screws if they're all a meter long!?!?!? Bad logic. Anyone with that logic needs to be sterilized hahahaha.

Also, the gambling community always uses mBTC to make pots seem bigger than they are. Should they use Satoshis!? Holy shit 1 billion Satoshis!?!?!? Oh that's not actually a big pot at all... Huh... now I hate bitcoins. They aren't worth much. 1billion Satoshis can't buy me much at all.

It's not that people can't or won't understand these things, it's the fact that it's a psychological deterrent to them using bitcoin.  I believe it will come, but I'm just saying making it more appealing will increase the speed at which the masses adopt it. 

I know many of you "hardcores" don't care if the masses adopt, the fact is that if only people that really understood the nuts and bolts of bitcoin were the only ones that used it, you'd still be spending 10,000 of them for a couple pizzas.





You have to have some basic knowledge or you'll be posting stupid crap on here constantly. "Why isn't my transaction confirming!?" Because your fee was too low... ugh... here we go again...

Mass adoption won't be coming from talking in different denominations. That's what it comes down to.

There are many wallets that use dynamic fees where the user doesn't even have to think about how much the fee should be. 

Actually I think something like this will come along on its own anyway, once BTC sees enough adoption.
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February 12, 2017, 04:39:14 PM
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I've also found all those decimal places a bit confusing. Cheesy What I do when depositing is to first get a converter, input the value in fiat and convert to BTC. Looks like too much trouble but for me it's still better than accidentally sending more than I intend to. I just tell my self I'm easily confused with really large/small number to begin with.

As the price of bitcoin increases we'd be using smaller and smaller denominations anyway. If you're telling people about bitcoin, after you just said that a bitcoin is about, say, $1,013, tell them you can buy really small amounts of it and that it can be divided into much smaller units than a dollar can. I suppose after a bit of explaining they'd be able to figure out that they don't have to buy BTC1.
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February 12, 2017, 06:34:48 PM
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yes i agree that people do think like this way but i think its actully a main reason thats why they join this system becase they se it like what we say. its ok if we say them that one btc is $1000 and a little bit of introduction.


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February 12, 2017, 06:44:21 PM
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I strongly believe that there will be a time that we will use satoshi as a standard, it will be easier and simpler

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February 12, 2017, 06:49:23 PM
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I think mass adoption would be easier if we started referring to BTC as mBTC as a standard.  Many people that don't know much or anything about BTC get discouraged right away when they find out 1 "coin" is about $1000.  In their mind they automatically compare it to a dollar and they feel like they can't even buy 1 BTC so why bother. 

Also many people ask how the heck I can buy something for $24 if the base unit is worth $1000.  I know this is pretty simply to understand that they are divisible and with a little explaining people get it, but first impressions mean a lot.  The less difficulty someone has initially to understanding and/or accepting something the more of a chance they will feel like they can use it. 

What if the community starts referring to BTC as mBtc as a standard to help along with the psychological factor of mass adoption.  What do you think?

First off, the harshness of criticism against this idea is uncalled for. Clearly, if a newcomer feels that the denomination is an issue, then it is.

That said, I see nothing wrong with satoshi and bitcoin, and using decimals. In your example, you say people will give up over the idea that 1 coin is $1000, what makes you think they'll warm up to the idea of mBTC?

Stick to the idea of the currently 8 decimal places and the use of satoshi as the smallest unit. With time, it will be the norm.

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February 12, 2017, 06:55:16 PM
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I already most of the time talk in mBTC, with my friends, as I find it more convenient. Moreover most of the gambling websites if not all already use this denomination by default.

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February 13, 2017, 05:15:02 AM
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I think mass adoption would be easier if we started referring to BTC as mBTC as a standard.  Many people that don't know much or anything about BTC get discouraged right away when they find out 1 "coin" is about $1000.  In their mind they automatically compare it to a dollar and they feel like they can't even buy 1 BTC so why bother. 

Also many people ask how the heck I can buy something for $24 if the base unit is worth $1000.  I know this is pretty simply to understand that they are divisible and with a little explaining people get it, but first impressions mean a lot.  The less difficulty someone has initially to understanding and/or accepting something the more of a chance they will feel like they can use it. 

What if the community starts referring to BTC as mBtc as a standard to help along with the psychological factor of mass adoption.  What do you think?

it is a very good idea, and it potentially can solve some problems about newbies thinking bitcoin is expensive because every price is reported based on 1BTC.

but also it has a big flaw!
bitcoin is a global currency and not just for one country, many people don't understand what m, u,... mean so they may have trouble understanding what mBTC or uBTC means. other countries use different unit systems.

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February 13, 2017, 02:55:18 PM
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Lol, that's the same thing it wouldn't change much xD

But what would be interesting would be a common norm!
I mean, it all depends of the site on which you are. Some put prices and bets in mbtc, others in btc, others in satoshis...
That could be a good thing to all agree on one common unit. It can be mbtc why not, you spend mostly mbtc unless you're rich as hell.

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February 13, 2017, 03:48:11 PM
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Do you know that bitcoin is limited by 21 million number?
In the case of mass adoption bitcoin will have to be shared on mBTC or even for satoshies to be enough to everyone to use. But for that bitcoin will have to cost a lot. And only rich people will have capital in bitcoins, and others use only satoshies.
Bitcoin will never reach 21 million of their supply and it's mean the supply will less than the final accumulation by the maker of bitcoin. mbtc is really difficult to say. bitcoin is better to say than mbtc.



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February 13, 2017, 04:54:34 PM
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To be honest keeping BTC as it is is good. It looks like a small denominatiom woth a big value. Unlike some currencies like Yen in which it goes to many digits but is less than the value you are hoping for. I don't think 1 Bitcoin being expensive will discourage people. We can even explain to them that there is also centavo of Bitcoin which is Satoshis.

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February 13, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
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I do not agree with this topic! It's difficult in beginning to get into this decimals, how much money is 0.0140133, but now after a year I don't have problems with that.
I would like to stay everything as it is, for me this is perfect and I don't have problems to calculate values in bitcoins or dollars.

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February 13, 2017, 05:29:42 PM
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Why even mBTC then, Faucets are making people aware of giving away some bitcoins (Satoshis) and that’s the only good thing I appreciate when it comes to faucets otherwise it’s waste of time in my opinion. I send some satoshis to my friends when I tell them about bitcoin and they start looking more information and I think to give them actual bitcoins (doesn’t matter even if 500 or 1K satoshis) is the best way to increase awareness about bitcoin.

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February 13, 2017, 05:37:33 PM
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what i think is that you have a point but it's to early for your suggestion and mbtc might cause more confusion than anything, when bitcoin will reach 10k or 100k mbtc will be the standard for many that can't afford a whole bitcoin, but for now i would use BTC as a suffix which is fine

Do you know that bitcoin is limited by 21 million number?
In the case of mass adoption bitcoin will have to be shared on mBTC or even for satoshies to be enough to everyone to use. But for that bitcoin will have to cost a lot. And only rich people will have capital in bitcoins, and others use only satoshies.
Bitcoin will never reach 21 million of their supply and it's mean the supply will less than the final accumulation by the maker of bitcoin. mbtc is really difficult to say. bitcoin is better to say than mbtc.



21 million will be reached in 2140 when miners will end their block reward, why you say it can't be reached? you are spreading false info

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February 13, 2017, 06:17:38 PM
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What if the community starts referring to BTC as mBtc as a standard to help along with the psychological factor of mass adoption.  What do you think?
Why we need to adopt mBTC when the notation "satoshi" will be giving much cheaper prices for bitcoins so that new people will start buying it ?

But there were sold evidences when stocks were got split, it had started attracting more investors than before.
But we need to work on long term solutions like after some times like mBTC also value $1000 then we might need to switch into uBTC.
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February 13, 2017, 07:13:40 PM
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I already most of the time talk in mBTC, with my friends, as I find it more convenient. Moreover most of the gambling websites if not all already use this denomination by default.

True, but if you ask me I don't like that. Honestly I don't understand what's so wrong about 0.001 BTC? Why do some people think 1 mBTC is looking better? I'm absolutely okay with those zeros after decimal point and I hate the prefix milli, that's even confusing in a way IMO.

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February 13, 2017, 07:19:03 PM
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I personally think It's the other way around , If people sees that one bitcoin costs 1000$ right now that should give them a good idea on how valuable it is and probably encourage them on investing , at least this is how I see it. It also should be easy to understand that bitcoin can be broken into decimal places as well since transactions can be seen on the blockchain.


I think it would be the other way around, if they saw Bitcoin is too expensive, investors will be discourage unless he dig into what bitcoin is.  Basically it is not majorly the current price that encourage people to invest in bitcoin.  It is the future price and how huge will be the profit if they waited for x time before they sell for a profit. 



As of mBTC i think this is targeting a psychological factor of people.  Though, why not use Satoshi instead of mBTC that way they will see Bitcoin is way  too cheap than they imagined LOL.

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February 14, 2017, 07:46:02 AM
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I guess we don't need to do that. BTC itself is just enough no need to use mbtc for better adoption. They can just research about bitcoin if they think it is to expensive and they will see thst one can own even 0.001 BTC less which cost low and affordable for many. I think adoption itself will be done in the future it will just take years to happen but if we are lucky it would only take months.
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