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February 16, 2017, 02:10:06 PM
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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.

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February 16, 2017, 04:16:36 PM
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Do you think there is room for two currencies to grow in demand, shrink in supply exponentially? Will they cut into each other's market share?

Bitcoin has been proven and can be divided into tiny fractions, given the fact it is working it seems a safe bet for the future. It has failures, though. From an economic standpoint, if zcash replaces it in underground markets, will bitcoins legal uses keep its demand high? Will it continue to grow from speculation?

 Bitcoin isn't private, tumbling it has huge risks and the end user has lots of security demands to remain anonymous. It may not be the best for underground uses whcih may have an economic impact. zcash is bitcoin but with its flaws ironed out.I do suspect it will grow like bitcoin but I'm interested in the dynamics.

Thoughts?

Very few people believe in zcash these days. Although it still costs over 0.03 BTC the steady decline of its price from the beginning is obvious. Idk, if it's more anonymous than BTC and people just haven't realized it yet, maybe it has some potential. We'll see.
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February 16, 2017, 05:53:34 PM
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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.

You could always read the thread. Or you could just make poor assumptions in bad grammar.

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February 17, 2017, 05:43:56 AM
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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.
Yes I agree with you, but if we saw his wrote he was thinking that zcash can replace bitcoin,
I don't know it is serious or not but i think he said like that and he doesn't give complete reason
why he think like that.
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February 17, 2017, 06:28:00 AM
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Do you think there is room for two currencies to grow in demand, shrink in supply exponentially? Will they cut into each other's market share?

Bitcoin has been proven and can be divided into tiny fractions, given the fact it is working it seems a safe bet for the future. It has failures, though. From an economic standpoint, if zcash replaces it in underground markets, will bitcoins legal uses keep its demand high? Will it continue to grow from speculation?

 Bitcoin isn't private, tumbling it has huge risks and the end user has lots of security demands to remain anonymous. It may not be the best for underground uses whcih may have an economic impact. zcash is bitcoin but with its flaws ironed out.I do suspect it will grow like bitcoin but I'm interested in the dynamics.

Thoughts?

Very few people believe in zcash these days. Although it still costs over 0.03 BTC the steady decline of its price from the beginning is obvious. Idk, if it's more anonymous than BTC and people just haven't realized it yet, maybe it has some potential. We'll see.
too far to campare with bitcoin , coinmarket capitalizations stated that it has 1000 times lower than bitcoin , so what you can expect from the small altcoin like that? of course nothing at least for now , they need to be established first.

bitcoin are too big to compare with zcash or any other altcoin even with ethereum.

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February 17, 2017, 02:45:33 PM
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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.
Yes I agree with you, but if we saw his wrote he was thinking that zcash can replace bitcoin,
I don't know it is serious or not but i think he said like that and he doesn't give complete reason
why he think like that.

i think its not makes sense if zcash can replace bitcoin because zcash its different than bitcoin itself, zcash is need more thing to be like bitcoin. maybe zcash can stay together with bitcoin like other altcoin but to replace bitcoin, i don't think so. there will be no altcoin that can replace bitcoin because all crypto currency is something and its under bitcoin.

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February 17, 2017, 03:12:01 PM
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Do you think there is room for two currencies to grow in demand, shrink in supply exponentially? Will they cut into each other's market share?

Bitcoin has been proven and can be divided into tiny fractions, given the fact it is working it seems a safe bet for the future. It has failures, though. From an economic standpoint, if zcash replaces it in underground markets, will bitcoins legal uses keep its demand high? Will it continue to grow from speculation?

 Bitcoin isn't private, tumbling it has huge risks and the end user has lots of security demands to remain anonymous. It may not be the best for underground uses whcih may have an economic impact. zcash is bitcoin but with its flaws ironed out.I do suspect it will grow like bitcoin but I'm interested in the dynamics.

Thoughts?

Very few people believe in zcash these days. Although it still costs over 0.03 BTC the steady decline of its price from the beginning is obvious. Idk, if it's more anonymous than BTC and people just haven't realized it yet, maybe it has some potential. We'll see.
too far to campare with bitcoin , coinmarket capitalizations stated that it has 1000 times lower than bitcoin , so what you can expect from the small altcoin like that? of course nothing at least for now , they need to be established first.

bitcoin are too big to compare with zcash or any other altcoin even with ethereum.

market cap doesn't mean anything, even if ZCash had a much bigger market cap or even a bigger one that bitcoin, that wouldn't have meant much.

ZCash is still an altcoin, and it is something that pumpers use to pump and dump to make more money. it doesn't really offer much options to us in order to be able to start to compete with bitcoin in sense of usage and other things.

and in the end, time will all there is to these altcoins, most of them will disappear before the year's end and many others fade away slower.

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February 18, 2017, 11:28:56 AM
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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.

You could always read the thread. Or you could just make poor assumptions in bad grammar.
Well so what do you mean with your last statement? Except me there is other users who don't understand about your statement
and you comes just blamed me without explaining about the statement, will be good if you give us more complete explaining about your statement.
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February 18, 2017, 12:47:11 PM
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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.
Yes I agree with you, but if we saw his wrote he was thinking that zcash can replace bitcoin,
I don't know it is serious or not but i think he said like that and he doesn't give complete reason
why he think like that.

i think its not makes sense if zcash can replace bitcoin because zcash its different than bitcoin itself, zcash is need more thing to be like bitcoin. maybe zcash can stay together with bitcoin like other altcoin but to replace bitcoin, i don't think so. there will be no altcoin that can replace bitcoin because all crypto currency is something and its under bitcoin.
Thats why its being called altcoin from the word itself "alternative" and there is really no chance that any alts would surpass bitcoin as of these days. We still dont know if theres one but seeing on the current situation i could really say no one could able to compete bitcoin.

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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.
Exactly it just another crypto currency in thos world just I think it got more publicity than other coins in starting so that doesn't mean it is gonna beat tbe best which is bitcoin. It is impossible and we also don't know if the coin is actually real or is it just showing fake mining results or even running a ponzi. I wouldn't recommend anyone to invest in it now the best alternatives to it is xmr or maybe dash.
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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.

You could always read the thread. Or you could just make poor assumptions in bad grammar.
Well so what do you mean with your last statement? Except me there is other users who don't understand about your statement
and you comes just blamed me without explaining about the statement, will be good if you give us more complete explaining about your statement.

 Literally 3 posts before yours: "I do think in 10-15 years any high performing coin today has the potential to rise higher than bitcoin. Both cutting into its market share and coexisting with bitcoin. However, when I wrote the title of this thread, I asked zcash or bitcoin to hold. What's the opinion of exponential potential? Zcash is under $22 million and bitcoin is ever$16 billion, yeah it's not an immediate threat. Zcash has some immediate threat to remain relevant before people begin to dismiss it. The developers need to start working on wallets and pushing for implementation, this passive tactic isn't working."

I'm asking wich will be more profitable. And yes, if altcoins could threaten btc profitability.

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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
Zcash is new and I am not surprised about the low volume on trading platform. In some point, zcash may seem very complicated and less useful than Bitcoin, but it is suitable for the world without the centralized system. Zcash is 100% anonymous and you have to understand that hackers love this features a lot

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Ok, you are speaking about Zcash vs Monero, can anybody say why we are not taking in consideration Dash then? Also anonymous, also scarce, capitalization is right next to Monero. And zcash is falling behind now. Maybe it is more logical to compare Monero and Dash?
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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.
Exactly it just another crypto currency in thos world just I think it got more publicity than other coins in starting so that doesn't mean it is gonna beat tbe best which is bitcoin. It is impossible and we also don't know if the coin is actually real or is it just showing fake mining results or even running a ponzi. I wouldn't recommend anyone to invest in it now the best alternatives to it is xmr or maybe dash.

Zcash is a scam coin because of its superhype that scams people to buy zcash with a very high price. Some said it has reach up to 200 btc per coin in Polo. But after sometime it has gradually decreased in value and those early buyers have lost a huge amount of bitcoins when the price has tremendously went down. I dont know if people will still trust this coin that has deceived many upon its release.
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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.
Exactly it just another crypto currency in thos world just I think it got more publicity than other coins in starting so that doesn't mean it is gonna beat tbe best which is bitcoin. It is impossible and we also don't know if the coin is actually real or is it just showing fake mining results or even running a ponzi. I wouldn't recommend anyone to invest in it now the best alternatives to it is xmr or maybe dash.

Zcash is a scam coin because of its superhype that scams people to buy zcash with a very high price. Some said it has reach up to 200 btc per coin in Polo. But after sometime it has gradually decreased in value and those early buyers have lost a huge amount of bitcoins when the price has tremendously went down. I dont know if people will still trust this coin that has deceived many upon its release.


No one was deceived, the release rate was announced before the coin was released. The market decided it was worth a fortune.

 I didn't know Dash was private when I started this thread. I have bought some now as it is a strong performer. I like the masternode system and the algorithmic distribution.


 Bitcoin will probably die after 2042, who will have any reason to hash the transactions and keep the neural network alive when there is no longer a reward for mining?


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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
Zcash is new and I am not surprised about the low volume on trading platform. In some point, zcash may seem very complicated and less useful than Bitcoin, but it is suitable for the world without the centralized system. Zcash is 100% anonymous and you have to understand that hackers love this features a lot
Zcash will be fully of the dump or i can say about the inflation of the coin. That's zero proof coin and have the different advantages with bitcoin you can't compare the both of bitcoin and zcash. Both are having the different building structure.

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February 21, 2017, 02:59:53 PM
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There is no Altcoins out there you can compare to BTC at the moment unless ypu are a speculator. Zcash price would continue the downward trend for the next two years, I don't see what would move the price high unless a Dark market adopt it.

But even if a Darknet market adopts it how can this stop Zcash from falling? Take Litecoin for example. It was adopted by some Darknet markets more than 2 years ago but still the price of LTC is falling and falling. Of course I mean the price in BTC because the price in USD hasn't changed much since.

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Bitcoin is time proof and it is accepted by some big companies as of yet. It is 8 years old now while zcash is fairly new and it's going down really fast. If you check the trend at Poloniex or coingecko you will see that the curb is going downside. No altcoin has been a real threat for bitcoin as of yet.

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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.
Exactly it just another crypto currency in thos world just I think it got more publicity than other coins in starting so that doesn't mean it is gonna beat tbe best which is bitcoin. It is impossible and we also don't know if the coin is actually real or is it just showing fake mining results or even running a ponzi. I wouldn't recommend anyone to invest in it now the best alternatives to it is xmr or maybe dash.

Zcash is a scam coin because of its superhype that scams people to buy zcash with a very high price. Some said it has reach up to 200 btc per coin in Polo. But after sometime it has gradually decreased in value and those early buyers have lost a huge amount of bitcoins when the price has tremendously went down. I dont know if people will still trust this coin that has deceived many upon its release.


No one was deceived, the release rate was announced before the coin was released. The market decided it was worth a fortune.

 I didn't know Dash was private when I started this thread. I have bought some now as it is a strong performer. I like the masternode system and the algorithmic distribution.


 Bitcoin will probably die after 2042, who will have any reason to hash the transactions and keep the neural network alive when there is no longer a reward for mining?


Any hard precise and convincing explanation why bitcoin would die after 2042? If it does die then you are a messenger of God. lol since you do already know the bitcoins situation on those future years Smiley Just joking since we really dont know when that thing would happen.

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I see some of you are young. In the 90's it appeared Microsoft would be king forever, now they are losing market share every gear. Before that, Xerox, most of you dont know who that is. Bitcoin may yet make you rich, but you'll see how time erodes those that cant adapt.

So you think that zcash will replace bitcoin? Everything can happen but I doubt that something similar could happen. Bitcoin for now is way far zcash because the community of bitcoin is parger.
I think yes, he is thinking that zcash will replace bitcoin
and I am doubt too it will happens because zcash has a little marketcap
be compared with bitcoin and the zcash still has a little comunity too.
I dont know why people still do think that zcash could able to replace bitcoin,seriously? Even that coin didnt even surpass those huge marketcap coins like eth xmr which is somehow good to choose rather than zcash. It doesnt stand a chance on bitcoin because until now theres no candidate to breakeven on bitcoins progress.
Exactly it just another crypto currency in thos world just I think it got more publicity than other coins in starting so that doesn't mean it is gonna beat tbe best which is bitcoin. It is impossible and we also don't know if the coin is actually real or is it just showing fake mining results or even running a ponzi. I wouldn't recommend anyone to invest in it now the best alternatives to it is xmr or maybe dash.

Zcash is a scam coin because of its superhype that scams people to buy zcash with a very high price. Some said it has reach up to 200 btc per coin in Polo. But after sometime it has gradually decreased in value and those early buyers have lost a huge amount of bitcoins when the price has tremendously went down. I dont know if people will still trust this coin that has deceived many upon its release.


No one was deceived, the release rate was announced before the coin was released. The market decided it was worth a fortune.

 I didn't know Dash was private when I started this thread. I have bought some now as it is a strong performer. I like the masternode system and the algorithmic distribution.


 Bitcoin will probably die after 2042, who will have any reason to hash the transactions and keep the neural network alive when there is no longer a reward for mining?


Any hard precise and convincing explanation why bitcoin would die after 2042? If it does die then you are a messenger of God. lol since you do already know the bitcoins situation on those future years Smiley Just joking since we really dont know when that thing would happen.

Well I don't think you have to be a prophet to guess. Bitcoin transaction and security are supported by the block chain.  The block chain, aka miners are supported by being rewarded newly minted bitcoint.  The last new bitcoin, coin number 21,000,000 will be distributed in 2042. So there will be no motive to sustain the block chain. So bitcoin would lose all of its security.  

Another threat to all cryptocurrency are quantum computers like the Dwave. Once they get a respectable number of quibits, they'll decode 128 bit encryption in a matter of minutes.  

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