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February 11, 2017, 01:38:09 AM
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Hello All,

I want to ask. If I want to continue my old roll in gambling site (lets say my last roll was a month ago), will it affect my next roll?

I mean if we could turn back time (I continue my last mont roll) Grin  , did the result will be the same? ( same seed, same payout,  I didnt change anything)

thank you for explanation

PS : Sorry for bad English
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February 11, 2017, 03:15:32 AM
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Hello All,

I want to ask. If I want to continue my old roll in gambling site (lets say my last roll was a month ago), will it affect my next roll?

I mean if we could turn back time (I continue my last mont roll) Grin  , did the result will be the same? ( same seed, same payout,  I didnt change anything)

thank you for explanation

PS : Sorry for bad English
First, move this thread on Gambling Discussion section. This is not the right place.
Second, your last roll doesn't affect with your current or next roll, because each bet is independent. (IMO)
Altough you changed your seed, the payout, or anything, your roll still an "independent".

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February 11, 2017, 05:22:18 AM
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Hello All,

I want to ask. If I want to continue my old roll in gambling site (lets say my last roll was a month ago), will it affect my next roll?

I mean if we could turn back time (I continue my last mont roll) Grin  , did the result will be the same? ( same seed, same payout,  I didnt change anything)

thank you for explanation

PS : Sorry for bad English
First, move this thread on Gambling Discussion section. This is not the right place.
Second, your last roll doesn't affect with your current or next roll, because each bet is independent. (IMO)
Altough you changed your seed, the payout, or anything, your roll still an "independent".

Actually, correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe that OP's roll result today will be the same as that same roll number if he rolled a month ago if he didn't change the seed/payout.

It's hard to explain, OP's question is quite unique.
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February 11, 2017, 05:26:42 AM
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Hello All,

I want to ask. If I want to continue my old roll in gambling site (lets say my last roll was a month ago), will it affect my next roll?

I mean if we could turn back time (I continue my last mont roll) Grin  , did the result will be the same? ( same seed, same payout,  I didnt change anything)

thank you for explanation

PS : Sorry for bad English
First, move this thread on Gambling Discussion section. This is not the right place.
Second, your last roll doesn't affect with your current or next roll, because each bet is independent. (IMO)
Altough you changed your seed, the payout, or anything, your roll still an "independent".

Actually, correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe that OP's roll result today will be the same as that same roll number if he rolled a month ago if he didn't change the seed/payout.

It's hard to explain, OP's question is quite unique.

actually the question is weird in my opinion Cheesy
i can't figure out if he means "is it possible to have the same roll with the same seed" or if he means "if you go back in time and roll again...".
in any case i agree with janggernaut, rolls are independent from each other so for the first question i have to say it will be a new result because each time you roll is a different roll irregardless of the last one.
and if it is the second question then i guess if you go back in time and roll with same seed then you will have the same result.

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February 11, 2017, 05:31:19 AM
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its really confusing but logically related since he doesn't change seed and nothing has been change to anything i guess if he or he's bet assign for winning and he paused it up, would it be in same results? really  hard and confusing but we will wait for those who manage gambling site or those who create the program i'm also interested if what would be the best answer for this.

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February 11, 2017, 06:25:59 AM
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Hello All,

I want to ask. If I want to continue my old roll in gambling site (lets say my last roll was a month ago), will it affect my next roll?

I mean if we could turn back time (I continue my last mont roll) Grin  , did the result will be the same? ( same seed, same payout,  I didnt change anything)

thank you for explanation

PS : Sorry for bad English

i think it will not affect with your next roll but i don't know if the admin will apply the same rules for member so they continue from the last roll. but so far, i think you can have new roll and the result is not the same from the last roll that you did. the new roll is another games and is not related with the last roll.

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February 11, 2017, 06:33:20 AM
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Hello all thanks for reply

sorry if my question look confusing to all of you because my bad english

ok i'm gonna give an illustration. Say i'm doing an auto roll with 2x payout

   date      bet ID       time        bet         payout      game        result              profit
1-1-2017      A          13.00       1btc         2x        >50.49       11.33              -1btc
1-1-2017      B          13.01       1btc         2x        >50.49       67.72              +1btc
1-1-2017      C          13.02       1btc         2x        >50.49       82.05              +1btc

my question is if only i could turn back time and only do 2 bets with bet ID A and B  then 1 month later ( 1 February 2017) i do third bet , will the result will be the same with if i do 3 auto roll sequentially like one month ago? ( same seed, same payout, same bet , didnt change anything just continue it)

   date      bet ID       time        bet         payout      game        result              profit
1-1-2017      A          13.00       1btc         2x        >50.49       11.33              -1btc
1-1-2017      B          13.01       1btc         2x        >50.49       67.72              +1btc
1-2-2017      C          15.00       1btc         2x        >50.49       Huh?

PS : my apologize for another bad english


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February 11, 2017, 01:24:19 PM
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Hello all thanks for reply

sorry if my question look confusing to all of you because my bad english

ok i'm gonna give an illustration. Say i'm doing an auto roll with 2x payout

   date      bet ID       time        bet         payout      game        result              profit
1-1-2017      A          13.00       1btc         2x        >50.49       11.33              -1btc
1-1-2017      B          13.01       1btc         2x        >50.49       67.72              +1btc
1-1-2017      C          13.02       1btc         2x        >50.49       82.05              +1btc

my question is if only i could turn back time and only do 2 bets with bet ID A and B  then 1 month later ( 1 February 2017) i do third bet , will the result will be the same with if i do 3 auto roll sequentially like one month ago? ( same seed, same payout, same bet , didnt change anything just continue it)

   date      bet ID       time        bet         payout      game        result              profit
1-1-2017      A          13.00       1btc         2x        >50.49       11.33              -1btc
1-1-2017      B          13.01       1btc         2x        >50.49       67.72              +1btc
1-2-2017      C          15.00       1btc         2x        >50.49       Huh?

PS : my apologize for another bad english


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First you need to find Marty and Dr. Emmett  and ask them to lend you Delorean. Than go back to past before you rolled third time.
After you do that, go back to future and roll third roll and you will have your answer.
But be aware of Biff, he might steel from you result of third roll and become a millionaire.

I hope this will help you  Wink

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February 11, 2017, 01:57:16 PM
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Hello All,

I want to ask. If I want to continue my old roll in gambling site (lets say my last roll was a month ago), will it affect my next roll?

I mean if we could turn back time (I continue my last mont roll) Grin  , did the result will be the same? ( same seed, same payout,  I didnt change anything)

thank you for explanation

PS : Sorry for bad English

if the server seed, client seed and nonce (if there is) is still the same as the last time on your last bets, it will be like you continued your betting however if one of those mentioned got change then you are most likely be betting your first bets

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February 13, 2017, 02:38:53 PM
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what is confusing you all?
if the client seed and server seed are not changed
you rolls will be a sequence of results each under a different number called nonce
so all of your roll results are predetermined and coded used crypto algorythms
you can find how to check the rolls under provably fair tab or similar

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February 13, 2017, 03:02:34 PM
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Hello All,

I want to ask. If I want to continue my old roll in gambling site (lets say my last roll was a month ago), will it affect my next roll?

I mean if we could turn back time (I continue my last mont roll) Grin  , did the result will be the same? ( same seed, same payout,  I didnt change anything)

thank you for explanation

PS : Sorry for bad English
First, move this thread on Gambling Discussion section. This is not the right place.
Second, your last roll doesn't affect with your current or next roll, because each bet is independent. (IMO)
Altough you changed your seed, the payout, or anything, your roll still an "independent".
Technically false.

To be clear: your previous roll has NO INFLUENCE on the next results. Odds are the same of course.
BUT, nothing is random. The generated number isn't random, it's the result of incredibly complex algorithm that makes it appear random.
So if you know how they work and you get the input data (the seeds) you can know the next roll results only from the first roll result.

So technically not correct, but in reality it's not possible to predict it as you're missing data (half of the seeds) ^^

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February 13, 2017, 06:36:45 PM
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did the result will be the same? ( same seed, same payout,  I didnt change anything)
If the dice site where you are playing provide probably fair rolls and doesn't use timestamp along with secret seed to make result than your result may be same. However no any dice site shares their seed and how those seed were created so this is only theoretically possible.

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February 13, 2017, 06:40:36 PM
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Hello All,

I want to ask. If I want to continue my old roll in gambling site (lets say my last roll was a month ago), will it affect my next roll?
Your previous roll wouldn't affect your next roll if you're playing on a verifiable gambling site.That is,randomness completely assured. (though mathematically it isn't possible)

I mean if we could turn back time (I continue my last mont roll) Grin  , did the result will be the same? ( same seed, same payout,  I didnt change anything)
It will still depend on the odds you've placed the rolls on.With 0.5% of winning chances,impossible.

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February 13, 2017, 09:30:03 PM
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It depends what site you are gambling with. Some sites clear your hashed seed and reset your client seed for every session.

Some it goes up to a certain nonce like 1000 and then it resets with a new hashed seed.

However you need to understand every roll is completely independent of the previous roll.

If you roll over 50 for the last 50 bets, the next bet can still be over 50 even though probability speaking it should be under 50.


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February 13, 2017, 10:42:10 PM
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As adaseb say the Question is on what Site you play.

As example rollin us a new clientseed on every roll. Primedice hold your seed till you change it. On Exo-Bit if you refresh the page you will get a new Clientseed.

A few think i m wrong but i still hold on this. If you us a new seed and make 100 rolls all on high. You will have ~48 wins depends on houseedge.

You can See this very Good if you us dicebot and Check "Stats" your luck is always around 100% Maybe After 10000 Bets its At 103% but After 20000 Bets its back To 100% again

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Thanks to all answer and information

I really appreciate that

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Thanks to all answer and information

I really appreciate that

@Mod , you can move or close this thread sir
You can lock this thread by clicking lock topic button which you can see on bottom left hand side if you don't like to have further discussion about this.


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