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May 09, 2017, 02:06:52 PM
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Hi All,

Thanks for all your posts, been useful to read some of them and enjoyed the tittie pattern.

I invested into ICN today. Like the idea, they likely have some marketing budget ready to deploy once funds go live, polo could pick it up after people tire of this rally and they want to attract some volume and failing all that ICN might actually make a success of it and not have to rely on hype profit! Quite honestly there are not many fairly priced coins out there in my eyes and this one seemed to stand out. Like the lack or correlation with the "alt rally".

What worries is me is the market cap. I guess one can kind of use this to work out the PE ratio? What can they make a year in fees? If they could make 10m a year this would be pretty fairly priced (4.5). Any thoughts on this? Is my thinking off?

Edit last comment: Be interesting to see if it holds its USD value if/when BTC corrects.
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May 09, 2017, 02:15:30 PM
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Hi All,

Thanks for all your posts, been useful to read some of them and enjoyed the tittie pattern.

I invested into ICN today. Like the idea, they likely have some marketing budget ready to deploy once funds go live, polo could pick it up after people tire of this rally and they want to attract some volume and failing all that ICN might actually make a success of it and not have to rely on hype profit! Quite honestly there are not many fairly priced coins out there in my eyes and this one seemed to stand out. Like the lack or correlation with the "alt rally".

What worries is me is the market cap. I guess one can kind of use this to work out the PE ratio? What can they make a year in fees? If they could make 10m a year this would be pretty fairly priced (4.5). Any thoughts on this? Is my thinking off?

Edit last comment: Be interesting to see if it holds its USD value if/when BTC corrects.

Once live they will make more then 10m profit per year. It´s possible with ICNP alone to do more, depending on how many good ICO´s pop up

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May 09, 2017, 02:16:05 PM
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Seen in polo trollbox...

Just for fun guys, don't take it seriously  Cool

https://image.ibb.co/iKOLLk/wut.png

Edit : sorry, I can't post full size image there, maybe someone can repost it better ?
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May 09, 2017, 02:18:55 PM
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Seen in polo trollbox...

Just for fun guys, don't take it seriously  Cool



Edit : sorry, I can't post full size image there, maybe someone can repost it better ?

Almost true.. they just need to replace the word Iconomi with the word Waves  Wink


 
 
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May 09, 2017, 02:32:21 PM
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While waiting for our invite (At this rate months grrrrrrrrrrrr) here are 2 distractions to get your teeth into, hopefully our team will check them out:

   https://www.tezos.com/

   https://basicattentiontoken.org/


 Talking of "Wisdom of the Crowd" if you had 10 BTC to invest in the above 2 what % would you invest in both?
I have my answere, just curious as to what you guys (Crowd) think.  



I would split it into 0 for Tezos and 8 for basicattentiontoken.

Tezos doesn't have a cap. That's scary. Basicattentiontoken capped at $15MM. Bit high. But awesome team with great idea. I am already using brave browser. It's awesome.

If I were you, I would put that 2 from Tezos into boscoin. That would earn you two nodes (fixed income generation). Only drawback is you would have to wait till Oct.

Presale was from Nov-Jan when BTC was around $1000 or less.  A couple hundred people purchased 134m BOS @ 0.00002101 BTC/BOS.  

For ico #2 they are selling 276m BOS @ 0.00002500 BTC/BOS

80m retained by dev team and 10m for bounties, for a total of 500m BOS in the initial issuance

In my opinion, there is too much risk of presale people dumping when they finally get liquidity in October.  Especially considering they may want to take profit on the $ appreciation of BTC.  I'm betting that holding ICN or ETH until October will give a better ROI than an investment into BOS ico #2

Or it could go other way. What if Eth comes back $50 to $60 till then. Market is bullish overall for crypto now. We never know when everything would reverse. This project has lot of similarities with tezos. I would rather buy this than tezos. Decred is sort of similar project @ $80 MM now.

I think they sold 1 btc = 47000 boscoins in presale @ 2128 sats

It's like saying market is bullish overall for search engines or smartphones now.  We never know when everything would reverse.  It's adoption of new technology spreading like a virus.  Individual projects may fall relative to others while crypto in general keeps growing.

Market has become much more mainstream than the times of the Mtgox bear market or TheDAO bear market.  Amazing how much the crypto userbase has grown in the past year.

After new EEA members are announced and it hits mainstream news, ETH for cheaper than $100 will be about the same likelihood as buying BTC for under $560.  It's possible, but unlikely in my opinion.  Similarly, ICN will go from cents to dollars when ICNX token and DAMP are launched.

There were 2 price levels in the BOS presale, so average was 2815 BTC / 134m BOS = 0.00002101 BTC/BOS

That's a good point that the starting market cap is only 11848 BTC for a concept similar to Tezos.  From that perspective, it seems safer than uncapped Tezos which will be the most overbought ico since TheDAO & TheGNO, or perhaps of all-time.

I like your analysis. For investors, this is another low key (less hyped) project focused on solving a real problem.
https://theqrl.org/presale/presale.html

Raised ~ $1M so far in presale. Target is $4 to $5 MM. Genesis block is pinned for Aug-17. So the coins tradable after Aug-17.
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May 09, 2017, 02:46:02 PM
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Seen in polo trollbox...

Just for fun guys, don't take it seriously  Cool



Edit : sorry, I can't post full size image there, maybe someone can repost it better ?

Almost true.. they just need to replace the word Iconomi with the word Waves  Wink

And Polo getting crushed for whatever reason is good for Iconomi  Grin

Who knows what could be next biggest exchange. I remember two three years back Polo didn't have the volume that liqui has now.
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May 09, 2017, 03:13:47 PM
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Time to buy guys.Do not blame yourself later for not buying when it hit the lowest.
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May 09, 2017, 03:51:14 PM
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And Polo getting crushed for whatever reason is good for Iconomi  Grin

Who knows what could be next biggest exchange. I remember two three years back Polo didn't have the volume that liqui has now.
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Polo for all their faults seems pretty decent to me. Fairly fast verification (until tier 4 then slow - still waiting), the few deposits/withdrawals have been quick, they allow you to lend unlike kraken, their platform is pretty clean. Its only been unreliable for maybe 2 hours of the 600 odd used. Cityindex and other "regular market" platforms have just the same issues when vol spikes. 3 weeks after uploading docs to kraken I am still waiting (pre-authorised approval, which allows nothing!). It was under 24 hrs with polo.

The listings/de-listings do seem suspect but are any other exchanges better? Is it just the volume and no. of holders that highlights it?

Basically why the hating on Polo? I am curious.
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May 09, 2017, 04:36:22 PM
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polo delisting good coins and not adding the best ones out in the market. its a reason already not to trade to such exchange. besides, we need more exchanges that offers fiat gateway like those on top like kraken and changely.

          
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May 09, 2017, 04:37:28 PM
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Is it true that Iconomi week make its own exchange?

Doesn't it have an undisclosed partnership with Kraken  for all the trades?

Currently Iconomi just has a service like shape shift for buying Ethereum with Euros.

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Still no release of it? They have fixed a date?
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Polo for all their faults seems pretty decent to me. Fairly fast verification (until tier 4 then slow - still waiting), the few deposits/withdrawals have been quick, they allow you to lend unlike kraken, their platform is pretty clean. Its only been unreliable for maybe 2 hours of the 600 odd used. Cityindex and other "regular market" platforms have just the same issues when vol spikes. 3 weeks after uploading docs to kraken I am still waiting (pre-authorised approval, which allows nothing!). It was under 24 hrs with polo.

The listings/de-listings do seem suspect but are any other exchanges better? Is it just the volume and no. of holders that highlights it?

Basically why the hating on Polo? I am curious.


Listings and delistings at Polo bother me. I assume it has to deal with insider trading at Polo. We will have a new exchange in one or two years that should overtake Polo in volume. My guess is that could be a decentralized exchange. Waves platform looks good for trading. May be they add other coins?
I love bittrex as a means of adding coins. Why ICN not on Bittrex? I am sure they would love to add ICN in the future. But I think Jani doesn't want to list on bittrex yet. The GUI of bittrex sucks. If not, they would have been no.1 by now.
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May 09, 2017, 05:24:52 PM
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Bittrex 2.0 will introduce USD trading options. Coming Soon. It's been confirmed.
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May 09, 2017, 07:50:38 PM
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Is PVX Ventures doing something on lines with ICONOMI?There thread is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879453.0 and they are running ICO on bittrex.Got the feeling that they are taking business idea from ICONOMI combined it with few more things
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Polo for all their faults seems pretty decent to me. Fairly fast verification (until tier 4 then slow - still waiting), the few deposits/withdrawals have been quick, they allow you to lend unlike kraken, their platform is pretty clean. Its only been unreliable for maybe 2 hours of the 600 odd used. Cityindex and other "regular market" platforms have just the same issues when vol spikes. 3 weeks after uploading docs to kraken I am still waiting (pre-authorised approval, which allows nothing!). It was under 24 hrs with polo.

The listings/de-listings do seem suspect but are any other exchanges better? Is it just the volume and no. of holders that highlights it?

Basically why the hating on Polo? I am curious.


There were some theories that polo was behind some of the FUD campaigns against ICONOMI, being that the iconomi platform might take away some of their business. Other than that poloniex is a semi ok exchange with huge problems like ultra slow support for example. They have never been there for me when I've needed them and rarely have they been helpful at all.
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May 09, 2017, 10:12:50 PM
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Polo for all their faults seems pretty decent to me. Fairly fast verification (until tier 4 then slow - still waiting), the few deposits/withdrawals have been quick, they allow you to lend unlike kraken, their platform is pretty clean. Its only been unreliable for maybe 2 hours of the 600 odd used. Cityindex and other "regular market" platforms have just the same issues when vol spikes. 3 weeks after uploading docs to kraken I am still waiting (pre-authorised approval, which allows nothing!). It was under 24 hrs with polo.

The listings/de-listings do seem suspect but are any other exchanges better? Is it just the volume and no. of holders that highlights it?

Basically why the hating on Polo? I am curious.


There were some theories that polo was behind some of the FUD campaigns against ICONOMI, being that the iconomi platform might take away some of their business. Other than that poloniex is a semi ok exchange with huge problems like ultra slow support for example. They have never been there for me when I've needed them and rarely have they been helpful at all.
That just sounds conspiracy-theory talk to me. Any proof? Poloniex is doing volumes around half a billion dollars. You really think they are going to be threatened by Iconomi's non-existent exchange? I am sure ICN can stand on its own merits, and doesn't need Poloniex's help to succeed, especially after the buybacks begin to get reported by the team.
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May 10, 2017, 12:13:57 AM
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Oh the website have change little: https://www.iconomi.net/

Iconomi Holder !
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FFS- even a scam like Humaniq will be trading on Bittrex: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-HMQ

It's not like ICONOMI are exactly lacking some BTC to pay Bittrex to list them.

Come on Jani.

We know you are on good terms with Bittrex Bill.

Get ICN listed

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May 10, 2017, 12:30:44 AM
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Lets consider a hypothetical situation where no token holder sell his ICN.All of them decide not to sell and there won't be a single icn for sell on any exchange,In such a situation how will ICONOMI buyback and what will happen to funds not utilize on buyback?
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FFS- even a scam like Humaniq will be trading on Bittrex: https://bittrex.com/Market/Index?MarketName=BTC-HMQ

It's not like ICONOMI are exactly lacking some BTC to pay Bittrex to list them.

Come on Jani.

We know you are on good terms with Bittrex Bill.

Get ICN listed

Scam ? lol Every ICO is a scam i guess

Iconomi Holder !
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