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[Cofound.it]

I would rather prefer to see a public launch of the platform before witnessing a split of team... Just my personal opinion

We believe it’s an issue of timing. Right now, the conditions are great for a project like Cofound.it, the ICO space is exploding and we have an window of opportunity to be the first mover in this space and accelerating it further. If we delayed till the platform launch somebody else could have taken over the space, lessening the chances for success.

man they didn't even launch and spliting already with 2 teams but the same initial goals ! why the Cofund team can't just get the part from ICONOMI ICO and do their job ?? why do they need another ICO because the goal is the same I really don't get it please if someone can explain that shit

To have a maximum chance of success we estimate that we need to spend around 1-2M for platform development and geographical expansion. Our goal is to have a Cofound.it mentor in every blockchain hotspot in the world, to find and work with the best local teams.

That is not something the ICONOMI shareholders have signed up for. We believe that a new ICO with clear goals is the best way to find investors aligned with Cofound.it vision, not ICONOMI’s vision.

My 2 centz:

... reducing my share, at the moment some things seem to have to be clarified.
Iconomi is unfortunately no longer what I imagined six months ago.
This is not necessarily bad, but I might be looking for something else.
The next weeks will probably offer new entry rates, if I am not mistaken.
 

ICONOMI 6 months ago did not include mentoring program. It was established, tried out, seen that it could be improved with more focus, combined with Cashila know-how and platform and new team members platform into a new entity, retaining 10% for ICONOMI.

Ouch! This is my first time to read a thread on ICONOMI here in BitcoinTalk and I am dealt with a little bad news...or is it a bad new really? I have seen some people here pulling out of ICONOMI...now am wondering should I pull out mine too...or is there is something worth looking forward to...something these people have not seen behind the smoke?

While I was in the cave, I have this assumption that things are getting better in the ICONOMI. I would gladly read any further comment along this line. I need enlightenment, please.

People are always pulling in and out of every coin. You should decide for yourself.

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[Mendeleev]

I have to admit, I like your style.  You have a very unique way of fudding that almost tricks people into thinking you're being genuine.

This is the same guy who was warning people he had "evidence" he refused to post of "something shady" about Stratis:

Stratis price when this guy was warning people not to invest was 7k satoshi

Some of his sentences in this thread are almost copy/paste what he said about STRAT

Wrong. My concerns about Stratis were genuine, as are my concerns here.

The evidence I had in that case was a screenshot. The evidence I have in this case is nothing as concrete. Just a lot of info that is public, and reasoning which draws links.

Evidence =/= Proof, and in neither case do I have solid proof. I have used the word "theory" a number of times.

Dleader and I messaged privately after that, and he knows my concerns were genuine, even if he didn't agree they were warranted.

I even went on to buy Strat, and stupidly sold before the pump.

Nice try, though.

I don't play stupid FUD games. But for some people, EVERYTHING negative MUST be FUD.

Such is the mindset of the biased fanboy.

10/10 for your counter-FUD effort though.

[romanekras]

ICONOMI Launches Cofound.it to Mentor Selected ICOs
Blockchain startup ICONOMI has released Cofound.it, a dedicated platform for incubating ICOs.
Cofound, which was previously in stealth mode, will select ICO projects to “nurture” and provide with knowledge and guidance, along with a number of what a press release describes as “advanced technical tools.”
ICONOMI previously itself raised $10.5 mln in an ICO, one of the largest figures ever recorded.More

[Cofound.it]

What I think personnaly: This is the same team, working on the same initial idea and still will working together... so why do they need to do another ICO ? what that will change ? If they can't focus on the idea now they won't focus tomorrow if this is the same team

To have a maximum chance of success we estimate that we need to spend around 1-2M for platform development and geographical expansion. Our goal is to have a Cofound.it mentor in every blockchain hotspot in the world, to find and work with the best local teams.

That is not something the ICONOMI shareholders have signed up for. We believe that a new ICO with clear goals is the best way to find investors aligned with Cofound.it vision, not ICONOMI’s vision.

Ok, I've held my tongue too long...

You're right. It's not a crisis. It's just laughable. They got more than enough money in ICO already. There's no need for this to be a new company. They could execute the exact same thing within Iconomi, using funds they already have.

The fact they type out some quick explanation in a blog post doesn't change that, and people dancing along to their tune (like you) just come across as naive. Actually, YOU personally come across as somebody who is working for them.

(edit)

To the ones who disagree... I said it before; I wish you luck. I just wanted to get this off my chest.

See above re funding. The goal of Cofound.it is to bring many great projects to the crypto space. This will mean new assets to be traded, which means more arrays and more profits for digital asset management platforms like ICONOMI.

Where can I read about any split, smells very scammy to me.

You can read the basics of the Cofound.it announcement in the blog post by Tim. https://medium.com/iconominet/introducing-cofound-it-the-future-of-icos-14bc1859393d

I will agree that it's not cool to make new project while other is not working. It's sketchy, though it can be good for them and us, there is risk always. They made second project just to supplement first and to be sure that one of it really gets on top one day.

I personally think that their new baby will not succeed because their business model is not clear as ICONOMI and in all cases depends on people who are making new projects, so it's very high risk thing.

Though, ICONOMI will be fundamental project which will support this new one with the success of their own,but only if they will launch that platform and it will work as planned. Good luck to all of us!

ICONOMI platform is working, as the beta users can attest. The key reason is of making the announcement now is to make sure ICONOMI delivers the final version as soon as possible, ICONOMI must be laser focused on that alone, while Cofound.it can focus on its business. The second reason is the timing to announce Cofound.it to establish it as market leaders on the currently exploding ICO market.

Domain: cofound.it
Status: ok
Created: 2013-01-23 08:00:00
Last Update: 2016-10-05 13:07:13
Expire Date: 2017-10-05

Registrant
Organization: STRELOVOD D.O.O.


make your own mind up.....

Yes, Tim officially holds the domain for now. We thought of Cofound.it as a brand name for this service and scooped up the domain and reserved the username. It will be transferred to Cofound.it.

What if cofound.it is just a small spin-off collecting 1-2mln USD by its ICO? they are collecting money to pay some coaches. cmon guys, its no big deal!!!

Actually, the coaches are paid using a share of the tokens we collect. This ensures that all the coaches are working for the same goal as the projects and investors: to get good price for the tokens both during ICO and after the ICO. And yes, our ICO targets are actually quite modest, as we are launching with an established business model and already highly sought after services.

[MoveCrypto]

I have to admit, I like your style.  You have a very unique way of fudding that almost tricks people into thinking you're being genuine.

This is the same guy who was warning people he had "evidence" he refused to post of "something shady" about Stratis:

Stratis price when this guy was warning people not to invest was 7k satoshi

Some of his sentences in this thread are almost copy/paste what he said about STRAT

Wrong. My concerns about Stratis were genuine, as are my concerns here.

The evidence I had in that case was a screenshot. The evidence I have in this case is nothing as concrete. Just a lot of info that is public, and reasoning which draws links.

Evidence =/= Proof, and in neither case do I have solid proof. I had used the word "theory" a number of times.

Dleader and I messaged privately after that, and he knows my concerns were genuine, even if he didn't agree they were warranted.

Nice try, though.

I don't play stupid FUD games. But for some people, EVERYTHING negative MUST be FUD.

Such is the mindset of the biased fanboy.

I'll take your "genuine concerns" as a contrarian indicator that there may be 3x BTC profit potential here like there was with Stratis.  

Let us know your concerns with other projects in the future so we know what to buy into.

[addicto]

New blog post - Iconomi:
Introducing Cofound.it: the future of ICOs
https://medium.com/iconominet/introducing-cofound-it-the-future-of-icos-14bc1859393d

So how much of this new entity with ICONOMI hold? That seems like the most important question that isn't answered in this post.

ICONOMI will receive 10% of Cofound.it tokens.

Jan, Cofound.it

Where is the official announcement for this upcoming ICO no details about the structure of this. You will start official thread for it or will use topic for updates?

[Mendeleev]

Hey, Cofund.it account...

This is a thread about Iconomi. Please stop hijacking it for your project.

You want a separate company, then get a separate thread.

Thanks.

[Cofound.it]

Anyhow, for cofound.it to be fund raising, what method are they gonna use to raise their funds?

Selling the remaining 13 Million tokens?

New tokens call CFI?

We’ll be raising funds using an Ethereum ICO smart contract. New tokens are provisionally called CFI - thoughts?

Yes it is a calculated move to get more funds from the public, that's the definition of an ico.  Who calculated the move, though?  Were Tim and Jani the masterminds behind this plan because they wanted more money?  

Or is it more likely that Yan and Daniel wanted a bigger piece of the pie then they would get if they stayed on as salaried employees of Iconomi?  Can you blame them for that if they saw an opportunity to fill a niche in the market?

How would you have kept it running as it was if two employees were determined to start their own venture?

It was more like this: “OK guys, we now realize that this program could be really good for everyone but it needs bigger funds and more focus than we thought. ICONOMI investors did not sign up for that. The only real test is to pitch the project to potential investors and see what they say.”

While me and Daniel are fond of money, that’s not what motivates us. We joined ICONOMI to work with the best people in the business. And we still will! Look at it this way - everybody is still where it is, just lines have been redrawn.

[hansen.ng]

I just bought some token, I think this project has a positive outlook. Will keep a close eye on this. Good luck.

[ShinyDiscoBalls]

We are creating a new entity because ICONOMI founders and Cofound.it team decided that this is the best way to reach maximum growth for both projects. Everybody from ICONOMI team is still with ICONOMI except Daniel, who will still work on evaluations that ICONOMI has access to. And me, Jan. We have built the rest of the team independently.

This Daniel?

https://medium.com/iconominet/introducing-daniel-zakrisson-iconomis-head-of-investment-evaluation-1b443210eb5d

The guy who is meant to be the head of investment evaluation, who just joined ICONOMI  is already leaving after a few months?

[Mendeleev]

I'll take your "genuine concerns" as a contrarian indicator that there may be 3x BTC profit potential here like there was with Stratis.  

Let us know your concerns with other projects in the future so we know what to buy into.

Haha! That is one way to look at it, I suppose.

I have already acknowledged that price and "shadyness" are two separate things though, with the Dash example earlier.

And I also wished you all luck.

I am a lovely person  

[a29654]

There's a huge change this coin will dump

[josephdd1]

I just bought some token, I think this project has a positive outlook. Will keep a close eye on this. Good luck.

Well, as i see it, it's never to late to join the ICN train...

This project have a lot more to give, be patient and you will get some..."luck"...
So, welcome on board and have a nice ride mate!

[Cofound.it]

Where is the official announcement for this upcoming ICO no details about the structure of this. You will start official thread for it or will use topic for updates?

We will start an official thread in the next few days. As Mendeleev pointed out, we're trespassing on the kindness of ICONOMI and their supporters here.

However - we believe that we should have a firmer foundation before we come here asking for funding. This is a no-nonsense community who demands clear propositions. So we are working on describing exactly how Cofound.it will work and what platform we wish to build. We do have a Slack though at http://cofoundit.herokuapp.com/

[Mendeleev]

Where is the official announcement for this upcoming ICO no details about the structure of this. You will start official thread for it or will use topic for updates?

We will start an official thread in the next few days. As Mendeleev pointed out, we're trespassing on the kindness of ICONOMI and their supporters here.

However - we believe that we should have a firmer foundation before we come here asking for funding. This is a no-nonsense community who demands clear propositions. So we are working on describing exactly how Cofound.it will work and what platform we wish to build. We do have a Slack though at http://cofoundit.herokuapp.com/

Aww I feel bad now. You're always so nice.

[cerejobastos]

can you write with bigger letters please? thanks

[AdobeWriter]

Wow, FUDsters these days are really desperate.

[a29654]

can you write with bigger letters please? thanks

He will do it


I agree with him though

[Cofound.it]

WHO THE FUCK IS DOING INVESTMENT EVALUATION FOR ICONOMI NOW IF THEIR TOP TALENT LEAVES AFTER JUST A FEW MONTHS?

Daniel will still be providing ICO evaluation services to ICONOMI - and to the community for some of the ICOs via his blog.

[Zontop]

Hey, Cofund.it account...

This is a thread about Iconomi. Please stop hijacking it for your project.

You want a separate company, then get a separate thread.

Thanks.

Agreed with you. Separate thread is good idea to explain about this project please stop hijacking this thread.