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February 15, 2017, 04:02:44 PM
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Why is Lauda still considered trusted by many members? Consider Escrow.Ms, who carded stuff, and was kicked out of Dt1(this may be a poor example considering that he wasn't a mod). Why would it be different for Lauda? If anything, they should be held to a higher standard then Escrow.MS, considering they were also a mod. This is not a qqing thread, I'm just curious. Edit: He was DT1, not DT2:
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February 15, 2017, 04:15:00 PM
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Why does it matter to you? Plenty of people did business with Lauda before the latest "issue" and have not changed their mind about those deals. Lauda lost their position as a member of staff and that is a satisfactory response for most normal people. Oh, and this is a crying thread.

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February 15, 2017, 04:19:15 PM
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Why does it matter to you? Plenty of people did business with Lauda before the latest "issue" and have not changed their mind about those deals. Lauda lost their position as a member of staff and that is a satisfactory response for most normal people. Oh, and this is a crying thread.
Asking questions ==crying, ok got it. Edit:Plenty of people also did deals with Escrow.ms, doesn't change the fact he isn't considered trusted anymore.
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February 15, 2017, 04:29:04 PM
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Why does it matter to you? Plenty of people did business with Lauda before the latest "issue" and have not changed their mind about those deals. Lauda lost their position as a member of staff and that is a satisfactory response for most normal people. Oh, and this is a crying thread.
Asking questions ==crying, ok got it. Edit:Plenty of people also did deals with Escrow.ms, doesn't change the fact he isn't considered trusted anymore.

If your question is why Lauda is still in DT2, simple answer: because the person in DT1 who included Lauda in their trust list kept Lauda in it. You and others may not consider Lauda to be a trustworthy person anymore, but you and others are not the people who determine the DT list.
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February 15, 2017, 04:29:38 PM
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Why does it matter to you? Plenty of people did business with Lauda before the latest "issue" and have not changed their mind about those deals. Lauda lost their position as a member of staff and that is a satisfactory response for most normal people. Oh, and this is a crying thread.
Asking questions ==crying, ok got it. Edit:Plenty of people also did deals with Escrow.ms, doesn't change the fact he isn't considered trusted anymore.

Someone with a lot of positive feedback should be considered as trusted (applies on Escrow.ms) unless It's proven otherwise and I personally didn't see anything that proves that Lauda is not trusted.

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February 15, 2017, 05:08:43 PM
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Why does it matter to you? Plenty of people did business with Lauda before the latest "issue" and have not changed their mind about those deals. Lauda lost their position as a member of staff and that is a satisfactory response for most normal people. Oh, and this is a crying thread.
Asking questions ==crying, ok got it. Edit:Plenty of people also did deals with Escrow.ms, doesn't change the fact he isn't considered trusted anymore.

Someone with a lot of positive feedback should be considered as trusted (applies on Escrow.ms) unless It's proven otherwise and I personally didn't see anything that proves that Lauda is not trusted.
Except for unlawfully attempting to extort money that was not owed to lauds from someone.

If you don't think this makes someone not trusted then your judgment is seriously lacking.

Edit: and now appearing to have royally messed up a deal he was acting as escrow for that appears with result in a loss of funds.

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February 15, 2017, 06:04:39 PM
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Edit: and now appearing to have royally messed up a deal he was acting as escrow for that appears with result in a loss of funds.

We've found the identity of one of the scammers involved with that, and he doesn't want to get charged/rep ruined/e.t.c, so he will be repaying the lost BTC. 5+ BTC has been recovered already, and he's buying more BTC AFAIK. Messed up, maybe, though it was in the agreement that funds are forwarded every 8 hours, but the important thing is that the problem is being solved.

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February 15, 2017, 06:11:43 PM
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Edit: and now appearing to have royally messed up a deal he was acting as escrow for that appears with result in a loss of funds.

We've found the identity of one of the scammers involved with that, and he doesn't want to get charged/rep ruined/e.t.c, so he will be repaying the lost BTC. 5+ BTC has been recovered already, and he's buying more BTC AFAIK. Messed up, maybe, though it was in the agreement that funds are forwarded every 24 hours, but the important thing is that the problem is being solved.
Ill believe it when everything is repaid. Although this will not change the fact that the deal was not severely botched by all three of the escrows.

The above does not resolve the extortion problem that lauda likes to extort people for money that is not owed to him/does not have any reasonable claim to.

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February 15, 2017, 07:52:36 PM
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Well heres another attempt at quickseller seriously distorting the facts and posting shit for the sole purpose of trying to make someone look bad.

Lauda did not in fact try to extort for money from what i read. There was never a mention of a monetary amount. So the above statement about this is false.

As far as the "botched" escrow deal, thats incorrect as well and again another attempt at trying to destroy someones or multiple someones reps. The "escrow" portion of the deal was fine. Any money that actually went to the escrow address was held and secured. The problem was the interval between funds that went to the IPOs website from purchases to the escrow address.

I see the error in that and will not participate in a deal thats like that again. Obviously it left the door open to users money being taken.

Moving on to the amount recovered or lost. We collected every single penny back. If darkstar would read the appropriate channels, he would know this. He misspoke above and has not kept himself updated on the situation. We have in fact already repaid all the big investors. 8/16 addresses that are expecting repayments have been signed by myself and Lauda on the wallet. We are just waiting for Minerjones to sign them and that portion of the money will be sent. Its just a matter of all 3 ppl from 3 different timezones being online at the same time.


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February 15, 2017, 08:02:06 PM
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Quickseller has no business in any thread that is even remotely about escrow.  He's proven that he has no idea what the word 'escrow' even means.  In fact Quickseller is just a troll experiencing severe gluteal agony over getting booted from default trust over his escrow scam.

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February 15, 2017, 11:38:47 PM
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As far as the "botched" escrow deal, thats incorrect....

The problem was the interval between funds that went to the IPOs website from purchases to the escrow address.
Obviously it left the door open to users money being taken.

Escrow not bodged...  yet the door was open to users money being taken.
Is that not a contradiction?

Wasn't it just "luck" that the funds were recovered, as the "scammer" happened to live nearby?

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February 15, 2017, 11:51:22 PM
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Well heres another attempt at quickseller seriously distorting the facts and posting shit for the sole purpose of trying to make someone look bad.

Lauda did not in fact try to extort for money from what i read. There was never a mention of a monetary amount. So the above statement about this is false.

Well, excuse me for asking questions around here  Roll Eyes. Note to self: don't ask anymore questions anywhere, you may be mistaken for someone trying to make other people(in general) look bad.
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Well heres another attempt at quickseller seriously distorting the facts and posting shit for the sole purpose of trying to make someone look bad.

Lauda did not in fact try to extort for money from what i read. There was never a mention of a monetary amount. So the above statement about this is false.

Well, excuse me for asking questions around here  Roll Eyes. Note to self: don't ask anymore questions anywhere, you may be mistaken for someone trying to make other people(in general) look bad.

Hey, i guess you haven't read this thread then! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1648941.0

(edit- did you purchase that account fairly recently?)
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February 16, 2017, 04:51:12 AM
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Well heres another attempt at quickseller seriously distorting the facts and posting shit for the sole purpose of trying to make someone look bad.

Lauda did not in fact try to extort for money from what i read. There was never a mention of a monetary amount. So the above statement about this is false.

Well, excuse me for asking questions around here  Roll Eyes. Note to self: don't ask anymore questions anywhere, you may be mistaken for someone trying to make other people(in general) look bad.

Hey, i guess you haven't read this thread then! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1648941.0

(edit- did you purchase that account fairly recently?)
I did read the thread, although I noticed that there were no questions asked :p(not that I don't mind). I didn't purchase this account.
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February 16, 2017, 06:25:09 AM
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Lauda did not in fact try to extort for money from what i read. There was never a mention of a monetary amount. So the above statement about this is false.
There is no "loophole" in the law, nor in the definition of extortion that says a specific amount needs to be requested.

If you seriously believe that Lauda did was not wrong, then you should have no problem consenting to other people making similar threats that Lauda made to Zeroaxl to you. If you are not willing to consent to others making these kinds of threats to you, then you know what Lauda did was wrong and are simply sticking up for him because he is your friend, because he is in power, or some other reason that has nothing to do with what is right or wrong.

As far as the "botched" escrow deal, thats incorrect as well and again another attempt at trying to destroy someones or multiple someones reps. The "escrow" portion of the deal was fine. Any money that actually went to the escrow address was held and secured. The problem was the interval between funds that went to the IPOs website from purchases to the escrow address.
I see the error in that and will not participate in a deal thats like that again. Obviously it left the door open to users money being taken.
These two statements contradict each other.

When others are using your escrow service, your number one priority is to keep your customers' money safe, which includes not allowing one trading party to have possession of the other party's money/property until the terms of the trade are met. In your case, you (and Lauda, and minerjones) failed to ensure that funds were kept secure, and allowed one party to potentially steal money, which ended up happening. Then to make matters worse, it was publicly said (by one of the escrows) that your customers were not going to be made whole as a result of your error (to use your own words).

I told I don't have an answer - not " I didn't want to repay it everything went wrong".

People need to have faith in you, first and foremost. Your answer should always be, yes I will cover any losses incurred with my escrow service. Any answer other than that and you shouldn't be running an escrow service, and that's the reason you got the reaction you've gotten.

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Now I know it was my mistake , the thing that *I still didn't know* is : who did all this epic trolling.

It doesn't matter whose mistake it was, what matters is that it was your responsibility. Your first duty is to your customers, not finding out who made you look bad. Yeah you got trolled, but it's your (in)actions people have a problem with. The issue wasn't with the mistake, it was the way you handled it after the fact.
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Lauda ISN'T a trusted user  ( unless for his alt accounts or other supporters, ass lickers .. )  . he act like a kid , and love to use blackmail . it's an extortionist , each time this is  possible , he act like with baseless attitude .  i was not thinking to him since a while and recently has started again to harass me ( to try .. ) 
this user was removed from bitcointalk moderation cause of all his shit . so NO: Lauda isn,t a trusted user, in anyway .

also , beware of his scam attempt , about ACE creation ..  scam incoming ..
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Lauda ISN'T a trusted user  ( unless for his alt accounts or other supporters, ass lickers .. )  . he act like a kid , and love to use blackmail . it's an extortionist , each time this is  possible , he act like with baseless attitude .  i was not thinking to him since a while and recently has started again to harass me ( to try .. ) 
this user was removed from bitcointalk moderation cause of all his shit . so NO: Lauda isn,t a trusted user, in anyway .

also , beware of his scam attempt , about ACE creation ..  scam incoming ..

Wrong child - Lauda IS a trusted user.  Whatever feedback he posts adjusts your public trust rating.

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April 07, 2017, 07:25:20 PM
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NO . clearly NO . Lauda ins't a trusted person .  his previous extortions attempts speak for itself ..

by the way , i find really funny the way some of his "partners in crime" magically jump in all threads where this poor creature is attacked , to try defend his ass..   ( minifrij, Hampus , etc etc ..)

is this reflect the honesty ?

here a sample how this asshole tried to manipulate bitcointalk trust ranking:




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yeah ... super trusted person  ! lol Cheesy



hoo .... and now , about the coins (ometeotl ) lauda's try to publicly deny ( craps ... blabla bla ) ..
the most funny part is : he have bought some , and was happy with  Smiley loll

even if he had tried to remove his feedback ... ( green , then neutral afterward, then vanished .... lol )
another proof this person shouldn't be trusted:



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NO . clearly NO . Lauda ins't a trusted person .  his previous extortions attempts speak for itself ..
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NO . clearly NO . Lauda ins't a trusted person .  his previous extortions attempts speak for itself ..
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All I can see is an unstable individual, clearly butthurt, attempting defamation. I do not have access to said chats, therefore I am unable to verify their authenticity. Therefore, they are not satisfiable evidence nor accurate representations of what I may or may not have written at some point in time. A little reminder of your actual trust rating:




hooo .. really Lauda ?   maybe not everyone had the chance to read this ..   so please : read : funny how things  were admited few month ago and then could be denied today .. lol 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1397579.msg15567061#msg15567061


hoo... and by the way : nice screenshots here too ..   ( yes ... it's a loooong story ) 

and the end was : REMOVED form bitcointalk moderators.  ( yes , he has cry  a lot when this happened Cheesy  )
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yes , he has cry  a lot when this happened Cheesy 

That's a good thing - to have emotions.  It means Lauda does not have Alexithymia.  It means Lauda has compassion.

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Why is Lauda still considered trusted by many members? Consider Escrow.Ms, who carded stuff, and was kicked out of Dt1(this may be a poor example considering that he wasn't a mod). Why would it be different for Lauda? If anything, they should be held to a higher standard then Escrow.MS, considering they were also a mod. This is not a qqing thread, I'm just curious. Edit: He was DT1, not DT2:

Actually what Lauda did had no personal benefits rather he did that to get money out from a scammer. This discussion has been done countless times and everytime Luada has came clean. Being a scammer is  different thing, Lauda tried to helpget money which is not at all scamming. He even got a rating from Shorena but later it was rightly removed as Lauda is a true gem to the community and in fact I support him for staff again Smiley

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Why is Lauda still considered trusted by many members? Consider Escrow.Ms, who carded stuff, and was kicked out of Dt1(this may be a poor example considering that he wasn't a mod). Why would it be different for Lauda? If anything, they should be held to a higher standard then Escrow.MS, considering they were also a mod. This is not a qqing thread, I'm just curious. Edit: He was DT1, not DT2:
It maybe for others member here in bitcointalk.org lauda is deserve to be out of the staff or what just correct me only if I'm wrong. For what I understand is that Lauda still had a green trust, it could be he/she had a good track record and unique rules in every campaign that he manage. Even she has a strict rules but I am sure that is also for the better and for sake of the participants in the campaign.


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May 11, 2017, 11:33:07 AM
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Because Lauda is Theymos and is rigging the trust system

So I removed all of the negative trust on everyone linked to Lauda,

Because Theymos has rigged the trust system so their shit paints my name red and it hides all of their red marks,

So I removed it as their was no point.

Even went and created a new screen name , so Lauda makes it a point to even leave that screen names negative trust .

Here is Lauda's Trust that Theymos aka Lauda has set hidden





See All of that Red Negative Remarks, if that was you or me, it would count against us and show that Do not Trade Message.

But with Lauda aka Theymos, none of the negative shows up because they tweaked the trust settings so they always have zero negative , you have to look at the untrusted feedbacks , which they are the asshats controlling the settings.


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Well, we all know and believe that Lauda is a scammer ( future possibly ) and extortionist but for some weird reason he is being kept in the DT, Maybe because he has a alt in higher trust level. Anyways whatever is the case, i URGE everyone to top stop using forum while he is there.

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~snip

....Anyways whatever is the case, i URGE everyone to top stop using forum while he is there.


Does this include you?


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May 13, 2017, 09:39:07 PM
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Is this the thread we come to when Lauda has left us a negative feedback to cry and be in company of others being in the same situation?
I'm asking for possible future use and bookmarking purposes.



Anyways whatever is the case, i URGE everyone to top stop using forum while he is there.
I'll write you on skype once lauda is gone. See you then Wink

That's a good thing - to have emotions.  It means Lauda does not have Alexithymia.  It means Lauda has compassion.
"Above all else, a god needs compassion!" - James T Kirk
Lauda and you make such a cute couple.
I hope you invite that one guy to your wedding. You know, the dude with the black cat and the many accounts.


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Does this include you?
No kidding, I thought he was going to storm away to the mosque and go sulk.  Would be so nice if people followed through with their threats.  And these threads are garbage, and don't even deserve a bump.  Kilko is lucky he's not getting banned for trolling, starting all of these troll threads with baseless accusations.

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Does this include you?
No kidding, I thought he was going to storm away to the mosque and go sulk.  Would be so nice if people followed through with their threats.  And these threads are garbage, and don't even deserve a bump.  Kilko is lucky he's not getting banned for trolling, starting all of these troll threads with baseless accusations.

You spoke too soon.

@Shelby,

It was a pleasure meeting you.
Lauda aka Theymos just banned me.

Good Luck with your Projects.  Smiley

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Because Lauda is Theymos!


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What really sucks is this newbie account was only a few short of no longer being a newbie.  Tongue

kiklo WAS banned. And yet even after that he still has the nonsensical belief that Lauda and theymos are one.

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Well Kiklo was claiming that he either wanted his negative trust ratings to be removed or "Cyber Death".

Obviously he wasn't actually willing to accept cyber death, which is why he kept spamming threads packed with bullshit about how the trust system works.

I suppose someone needed to do it for him eventually.

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Lauda is incapable of rational thinking and passes judgement as if he knows everything.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917383.msg19015899#msg19015899

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Lauda is incapable of rational thinking and passes judgement as if he knows everything.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917383.msg19015899#msg19015899

Yes he has a attitude of look at me and he believes he can do any wrong activities while others are not supposed to. Will soon post something big, stay tuned Smiley

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Lauda is incapable of rational thinking and passes judgement as if he knows everything.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917383.msg19015899#msg19015899

Yes he has a attitude of look at me and he believes he can do any wrong activities while others are not supposed to. Will soon post something big, stay tuned Smiley
There are many reasonable guys in DT(like IBminet,vod) who doesn't place negative trust by just reading a post made by someone from a bought account, so that he can earn some points.
Lauda needs to give things a thought before passing any judgement.

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For anyone who doesn't remember, Lauda was a moderator of Hrvatski (Croatian) section of the forum, we know for a fact he/she is either croation/serbian/bosnian
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Will soon post something big, stay tuned Smiley
I am looking forward to your *big* thing full of lies. The only thing that you are going to accomplish is dig your own hole.

There are many reasonable guys in DT(like IBminet,vod) who doesn't place negative trust by just reading a post made by someone from a bought account.
It is entirely irrelevant who posted the evidence. Ad hominem anyone?

For anyone who doesn't remember, Lauda was a moderator of Hrvatski (Croatian) section of the forum, we know for a fact he/she is either croation/serbian/bosnian
I can neither confirm nor deny being one of those. Nice try though. Next time don't forget the other languages which I've mastered. Roll Eyes


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May 14, 2017, 12:40:30 PM
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It is entirely irrelevant who posted the evidence. Ad hominem anyone?


I just clarified everything and you are still believing in that one sided story, where the other user is trying to get me tagged so that he can earn some points.

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May 14, 2017, 02:25:11 PM
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For anyone who doesn't remember, Lauda was a moderator of Hrvatski (Croatian) section of the forum, we know for a fact he/she is either croation/serbian/bosnian
I can neither confirm nor deny being one of those. Nice try though. Next time don't forget the other languages which I've mastered. Roll Eyes

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