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February 15, 2017, 10:24:00 PM
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I told i mod "lupin" my client seed kept changing after i have set it during auto-roll. he called me a liar and muted me... so i posted proof from a new account my message was deleted and the account perm muted...


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here you can see my client seed is showing undefined...
i was gonna send this to the support email... so they could fix it...

but this mod gets rude... saying i'm a liar without proof i give him what he wants and i get banned.

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February 15, 2017, 10:32:22 PM
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I told i mod "lupin"
The name is Lutpin, pleasure to make your acquaintance.

I told my client seed kept changing after i have set it during auto-roll.
You said the site was rigged and scamming you. I said that if there was indeed a bug you had discovered, you should make a bug report asap to support and collect a bounty for said bug.
I further pointed out that a) this was not an issue to discuss in chat as it should be cleared with support and b) this (if it turns out to be true) is rather a bug than the site scamming, as I can't see any malicious intentions behind it.

he called me a liar and muted me.
I said you were in the wrong place, and suggested you several times to move your issue towards support. When you failed to do so and started getting insulting towards me as a person and the way I handle chat moderation, I muted you and once again pointed you in the right direction, the support team.

so i posted proof from a new account my message was deleted and the account perm muted...
Your new account was referred by your old one, and gambled. You hence cheated the site out of affiliate earnings and violated the TOS. Thanks for confirming this here.

Sorry, but this is not conclusive proof.

i was gonna send this to the support email... so they could fix it...
They will take a look at it nontheless, I have forwarded a report about your issue and they will check whatever might be up, if anything.

but this mod gets rude... saying i'm a liar without proof i give him what he wants and i get banned.
Personal attacks and scam accusations without being abled to provide anything are rude aswell.
You were banned for violating site policies, especially those layed down in the ToS about multiple accounts and self-referring.


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February 15, 2017, 10:42:23 PM
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February 15, 2017, 10:44:46 PM
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@Lutpin
I have found bug too
I would have sent you a bug bounty out of my own pocket, but your username is hidden due to our advanced privacy features.


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February 15, 2017, 10:59:35 PM
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I told i mod "lupin"
The name is Lutpin, pleasure to make your acquaintance.

I told my client seed kept changing after i have set it during auto-roll.
You said the site was rigged and scamming you. I said that if there was indeed a bug you had discovered, you should make a bug report asap to support and collect a bounty for said bug.
I further pointed out that a) this was not an issue to discuss in chat as it should be cleared with support and b) this (if it turns out to be true) is rather a bug than the site scamming, as I can't see any malicious intentions behind it.

he called me a liar and muted me.
I said you were in the wrong place, and suggested you several times to move your issue towards support. When you failed to do so and started getting insulting towards me as a person and the way I handle chat moderation, I muted you and once again pointed you in the right direction, the support team.

so i posted proof from a new account my message was deleted and the account perm muted...
Your new account was referred by your old one, and gambled. You hence cheated the site out of affiliate earnings and violated the TOS. Thanks for confirming this here.

Sorry, but this is not conclusive proof.

i was gonna send this to the support email... so they could fix it...
They will take a look at it nontheless, I have forwarded a report about your issue and they will check whatever might be up, if anything.

but this mod gets rude... saying i'm a liar without proof i give him what he wants and i get banned.
Personal attacks and scam accusations without being abled to provide anything are rude aswell.
You were banned for violating site policies, especially those layed down in the ToS about multiple accounts and self-referring.


I mean i admitted i handled it wrong... even left chat and i was muted...
i left chat long before that and you continued on the subject for 2-3mins. thats what i meant when i said you escalated everything not once but twice.


and my 2nd account did use ref earnings but even on my main i exchanged everything to playmoney with no intentions of cashing out i play there to test new betting strats. not saying i'm right there either just pointing out i wasn't really abusing it and i don't care if i'm banned because i use this site to test not when i'm actually wanting to play. theres plenty of better dice sites.

but like you said i had this account a week without any bans and my main was banned while this one wasn't... this isn't the real reason for my original ban... i was first banned because you escalated  something that was nothing over and over again until i actually needed to be banned. yet your account is fine right? blame me for handling it badly and you fail the single job of a mod.



correct me if i'm wrong.
If the roll says undefined the server doesn't know the actual client seed? so how could the roll be proven. i don't see how this isn't conclusive proof.




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February 16, 2017, 07:39:39 AM
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I told i mod "lupin"
The name is Lutpin, pleasure to make your acquaintance.

I told my client seed kept changing after i have set it during auto-roll.
You said the site was rigged and scamming you. I said that if there was indeed a bug you had discovered, you should make a bug report asap to support and collect a bounty for said bug.
I further pointed out that a) this was not an issue to discuss in chat as it should be cleared with support and b) this (if it turns out to be true) is rather a bug than the site scamming, as I can't see any malicious intentions behind it.

he called me a liar and muted me.
I said you were in the wrong place, and suggested you several times to move your issue towards support. When you failed to do so and started getting insulting towards me as a person and the way I handle chat moderation, I muted you and once again pointed you in the right direction, the support team.

so i posted proof from a new account my message was deleted and the account perm muted...
Your new account was referred by your old one, and gambled. You hence cheated the site out of affiliate earnings and violated the TOS. Thanks for confirming this here.

Sorry, but this is not conclusive proof.

i was gonna send this to the support email... so they could fix it...
They will take a look at it nontheless, I have forwarded a report about your issue and they will check whatever might be up, if anything.

but this mod gets rude... saying i'm a liar without proof i give him what he wants and i get banned.
Personal attacks and scam accusations without being abled to provide anything are rude aswell.
You were banned for violating site policies, especially those layed down in the ToS about multiple accounts and self-referring.


I mean i admitted i handled it wrong... even left chat and i was muted...
i left chat long before that and you continued on the subject for 2-3mins. thats what i meant when i said you escalated everything not once but twice.


and my 2nd account did use ref earnings but even on my main i exchanged everything to playmoney with no intentions of cashing out i play there to test new betting strats. not saying i'm right there either just pointing out i wasn't really abusing it and i don't care if i'm banned because i use this site to test not when i'm actually wanting to play. theres plenty of better dice sites.

but like you said i had this account a week without any bans and my main was banned while this one wasn't... this isn't the real reason for my original ban... i was first banned because you escalated  something that was nothing over and over again until i actually needed to be banned. yet your account is fine right? blame me for handling it badly and you fail the single job of a mod.



correct me if i'm wrong.
If the roll says undefined the server doesn't know the actual client seed? so how could the roll be proven. i don't see how this isn't conclusive proof.




As client seed is string then "undefined" is string too and is valid seed. We can't reproduce you issue and you are only person that is experiencing it, so we think you typed in "undefined" client seed. If there was actually an issue, you wouldn't be the only one.

 

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February 16, 2017, 12:12:54 PM
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and my 2nd account did use ref earnings but even on my main i exchanged everything to playmoney with no intentions of cashing out i play there to test new betting strats. not saying i'm right there either just pointing out i wasn't really abusing it.
It doesn't matter what you do with the funds once you got them. You were abusing the system, you were violating the tos, you have been cheating and you were caught.

correct me if i'm wrong.
If the roll says undefined the server doesn't know the actual client seed? so how could the roll be proven. i don't see how this isn't conclusive proof.
You're wrong. "undefined" is your client seed and it verifies just right.

BetID: 981439401
Result: 95.519
Third party verifier: DiceSites



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February 16, 2017, 02:03:49 PM
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and my 2nd account did use ref earnings but even on my main i exchanged everything to playmoney with no intentions of cashing out i play there to test new betting strats. not saying i'm right there either just pointing out i wasn't really abusing it.
It doesn't matter what you do with the funds once you got them. You were abusing the system, you were violating the tos, you have been cheating and you were caught.

correct me if i'm wrong.
If the roll says undefined the server doesn't know the actual client seed? so how could the roll be proven. i don't see how this isn't conclusive proof.
You're wrong. "undefined" is your client seed and it verifies just right.

BetID: 981439401
Result: 95.519
Third party verifier: DiceSites




lol like i said i did break the tos... but i was banned for a different a reason, one you caused escalating the conversation like the horrible mod you are...


and i typed 11111 as the client seed before auto rolling... i don't have video capture software but i can take a better screen shot where it still shows "next" seed being 11111
and previous "undefined"

but no matter what i give there's still room for you to deny it.

which is the entire reason me and lutpin where arguing yesterday hes discredited many users in chat before hearing what they gotta say. he argues about proof. and even the proof got discredited.


So i'll stop here, let the thread die... because even if i work with you guys to reproduce it... i see nothing good happening overall.

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February 18, 2017, 04:45:42 AM
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I worked for the Crypto Games signature campaign, then the owner ask me to rob someone and I was out.

No opinion about their casino.

Sometimes you have an urge to share things. This is my moment.
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February 18, 2017, 04:44:57 PM
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I worked for the Crypto Games signature campaign, then the owner ask me to rob someone and I was out.

No opinion about their casino.

Sometimes you have an urge to share things. This is my moment.

Asked you to rob someone how?

How could a Signature Campaign member rob someone?

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February 18, 2017, 05:19:44 PM
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I worked for the Crypto Games signature campaign
I don't think you did. Can you show me where you enrolled?

then the owner ask me to rob someone and I was out.
I manage the campaign, DogecoinMachine only issues payments.
All communication goes through me.

No opinion about their casino.
Because you just told us an imaginary story, right?

Sometimes you have an urge to share things. This is my moment.
Then share it (with references), not just empty words.


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