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February 17, 2017, 07:26:11 PM
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I dont think thats true, most people only care about bump and dump, not discussing about actual prospects of BTC, ETH or any other coin

that's what i mean. business students might make the mistake of attempting to look into fundamentals when there are none. it's all smoke and mirrors. someone who hangs out here would know that.

same goes for the forks and dao disaster. no one who hasn't educated themselves would know anything about that and they're far more important than bullshit future adoption.

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February 17, 2017, 07:32:42 PM
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Listen Pal, I  have become a millionaire in USD from 2006 to 2017 in my own way. I think listening to these studies provide good insight in possible future price projections. Of course one can bet against, hence I only own about $450 in crypto now, about to double to $1k tomorrow. I am a buy and hold kinda guy. I like advises but not in the matter you provide them to me.

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February 17, 2017, 07:36:50 PM
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I think listening to these studies provide good insight in possible future price projections.

listen to studies carried out on people who actually know what crypto means and entails. not a bunch of noobs who won't understand the intricacies unless they have a lot of time spare.

check the track record of predictions from mainstream 'experts' on crypto. it's pitiful.

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February 17, 2017, 07:38:37 PM
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I dont think thats true, most people only care about bump and dump, not discussing about actual prospects of BTC, ETH or any other coin

that's what i mean. business students might make the mistake of attempting to look into fundamentals when there are none. it's all smoke and mirrors. someone who hangs out here would know that.

same goes for the forks and dao disaster. no one who hasn't educated themselves would know anything about that and they're far more important than bullshit future adoption.

In general you are right, but they only talk about BTC and ETH, and they have done their research. I dont say there are no flaws but its an interesting project, short period videos, anyone can see for some minutes. The more someone learns about cryptos the better i think, no matter the source

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February 17, 2017, 07:40:39 PM
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I totally agree with this. These students basically got hours and hours off studying the matter. They had to come up with something not to disappoint professor etc. I think they give massive insight on how youth is dealing with cryptocurrency, hence, very interesting.

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February 18, 2017, 09:04:02 AM
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I am not sure Ethereum issuance has been decided yet (after the transition to proof of stake), I remember having read some Vitalik's blog that it could even well be negative. For its applications in smart contracts, its price should above all be stable. Of course the question is stable against what, I would go with whatever is the main currency, which will be fiat for some time...
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February 18, 2017, 09:30:45 AM
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I only buy ETH after 20 % drop rate,the very risky today ala hardforks drops.

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February 18, 2017, 12:27:47 PM
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if you have doubts you better buy both beer no regrets in the future then you hold it until next year and see I guess bitcoin which will give a plus when compared with ETH, for a year

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February 18, 2017, 01:33:07 PM
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I am in dilemma. Should buy ETH and hold it or buy bitcoin and hold it.Which one do you thing going to give best and high return in next one year?
Im going still choose bitcoin than eth , eth encoutring problem with their coins and if you are going to think eth are just depending on bitcoin if eth will become individual maybe soon ill choose eth for investing but i had eth to hold and will sell when the price is high.

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February 18, 2017, 01:34:48 PM
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1. In Ethereum the block time is set to 14 to 15 seconds compared to Bitcoins 10 minutes. This allows for faster transaction times. Ethereum does this by using the Ghost protocol.
2. Ethereum has a slightly different economic model than Bitcoin – Bitcoin block rewards halve every 4 years whilst Ethereum releases the same amount of Ether each year ad infinitum.
3. Ethereum has a different method for costing transactions depending on their computational complexity, bandwidth use and storage needs. Bitcoin transactions compete equally with each other. This is called Gas in Ethereum and is limited per block whilst in Bitcoin, it is limited by the block size.
4. Ethereum has its own Turing complete internal code... a Turing-complete code means that given enough computing power and enough time... anything can be calculated. With Bitcoin, there is not this form of flexibility.
5. Ethereum was crowd funded whilst Bitcoin was released and early miners own most of the coins that will ever be mined. With Ethereum 50% of the coins will be owned by miners in year five.
6. Ethereum discourages centralised pool mining through its Ghost protocol rewarding stale blocks. There is no advantage to being in a pool in terms of block propagation.
7. Ethereum uses a memory hard hashing algorithm called Ethash that mitigates against the use of ASICS and encourages decentralised mining by individuals using their GPU’s.

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February 18, 2017, 02:07:54 PM
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i think ZCASH will be better Grin

zcash is very bad inflation coin
if answer to op iam recomended wait bitcoin down price buy and hold, if eth longtem is good too, bitcoin price high eth price down you can buy ethereum

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Bitcoin is still the best choice to hold for yearly than ethereum because the movement of ethereum will not increase anymore or the highest price that i experience in ethereum was $14 and i think ethereum is just good for buy low  and sell high in short period of time..


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February 18, 2017, 02:25:10 PM
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Bitcoin is still the best choice to hold for yearly than ethereum because the movement of ethereum will not increase anymore or the highest price that i experience in ethereum was $14 and i think ethereum is just good for buy low  and sell high in short period of time..

this is what i can agree on. and this actually is what i do.
obviously i am a Bitcoin Hodler for long term and when it comes to altcoins i am just a short term trader.

many say ethereum is going to be big and go to the moon in long term,... and lots of things like that. while i don't fully disagree with them but i say until i see some real potential and some real movement (not pumps) i don't see ethereum going to the moon at all.














 

 

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February 18, 2017, 03:51:41 PM
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I am in dilemma. Should buy ETH and hold it or buy bitcoin and hold it.Which one do you thing going to give best and high return in next one year?
Its isnt a dilemma at all since the common answer on this question is "Bitcoin" no other than that ETH does have a potential but it cant break even on how good bitcoin was and regarding on the price movements i could say that Eth might have bigger percentage on a short period of time but there are lots of users on bitcoin and theres no doubt on that.

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February 18, 2017, 04:47:50 PM
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i think ZCASH will be better Grin

zcash is very bad inflation coin
if answer to op iam recomended wait bitcoin down price buy and hold, if eth longtem is good too, bitcoin price high eth price down you can buy ethereum

there is not inflation on zcash where you see inflation? the block reward reached the maximum point for now and can only increase in 4 years to 2 more units for a total of 12 per block, the thing is that the current system promote a deflationary system for the first 4 years, because less dumping from miners with a lower reward
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I'm new to cryptos, how do I download ETH program and does will it take days to download the block chain like btc?
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I'm new to cryptos, how do I download ETH program and does will it take days to download the block chain like btc?

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February 18, 2017, 07:06:56 PM
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I dont think thats true, most people only care about bump and dump, not discussing about actual prospects of BTC, ETH or any other coin

that's what i mean. business students might make the mistake of attempting to look into fundamentals when there are none. it's all smoke and mirrors. someone who hangs out here would know that.

same goes for the forks and dao disaster. no one who hasn't educated themselves would know anything about that and they're far more important than bullshit future adoption.

You are right, in my book ETH/ETC is something that is sitting under a very malleable and fragile base, to the contrary of bitcoin which is simpler and solid. Turing complete as a base for the software was a mistake.

In any case, what makes me have second thoughts of not owning Ethereum, its the fact that it seems to be backed by the big business like IBM, Microsoft etc... so what do we do?

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February 19, 2017, 08:06:59 AM
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Bitcoin is still the best choice to hold for yearly than ethereum because the movement of ethereum will not increase anymore or the highest price that i experience in ethereum was $14 and i think ethereum is just good for buy low  and sell high in short period of time..

this is what i can agree on. and this actually is what i do.
obviously i am a Bitcoin Hodler for long term and when it comes to altcoins i am just a short term trader.

many say ethereum is going to be big and go to the moon in long term,... and lots of things like that. while i don't fully disagree with them but i say until i see some real potential and some real movement (not pumps) i don't see ethereum going to the moon at all.
You couldn't disagree if you'd bought every ethereum coin at 0.5 cents on 2014 and sell them $13 for each coin. Many people are not seeing it from the technical possession. but more to the possession of the value.

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