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November 08, 2013, 03:53:15 PM
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Hello,

i recieved my coins after 30h.
Until today (1,5 days later) they never informed me about it or replied on my support ticket.
I will use them never again. So they "Goxed" me only once, i learned from it.

A business partner which lies to you and didnt communicate when a problem occurs is more then useless.
Smells like fraud. Not trustworthy anymore.
This should be a lesson to everyone.
-> Gox is a sinking ship. <-
They will take the cash + the coins with them.

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November 08, 2013, 04:38:08 PM
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Hello,

i recieved my coins after 30h.
Until today (1,5 days later) they never informed me about it or replied on my support ticket.
I will use them never again. So they "Goxed" me only once, i learned from it.

A business partner which lies to you and didnt communicate when a problem occurs is more then useless.
Smells like fraud. Not trustworthy anymore.
This should be a lesson to everyone.
-> Gox is a sinking ship. <-
They will take the cash + the coins with them.


I have a withdraw still "invisible" neither in blockchain nor in my wallet...

No support response...

Sad

Leave the force be with you...
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November 08, 2013, 05:27:33 PM
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about 3 months ago I withdrew EUR, it arrived in 3 days.
A month ago I withdrew BTC it took 20 mins.
I guess I got lucky.

I do not understand why mtgox doesnt hire some firm to negotiate some new banking partners for them. Bitstamp has no issues(or do they?, got no experience).

How about Switzerland or HK....
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November 08, 2013, 05:37:25 PM
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which date is the lastest withdrawal of USD from Mtgox?

 Huh

Latest without the emergency fee would probably be from June or July. For all practical purposes that queue is not progressing. Latest with the 5% fee is probably a few weeks old.
Regular USD withdraw I am still waiting from June and still nothing
5% fee withdraw I am waiting for 3 weeks, and still nothing

So, it can take forever.

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November 08, 2013, 05:44:04 PM
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about 3 months ago I withdrew EUR, it arrived in 3 days.
A month ago I withdrew BTC it took 20 mins.
I guess I got lucky.

I do not understand why mtgox doesnt hire some firm to negotiate some new banking partners for them. Bitstamp has no issues(or do they?, got no experience).

How about Switzerland or HK....

How many EUR did you withdraw last time that arrived in 3 days?
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November 08, 2013, 05:57:02 PM
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A business partner which lies to you and didnt communicate when a problem occurs is more then useless.
Smells like fraud. Not trustworthy anymore.

Yes, this is hard to tolerate.  It is difficult to plan operations effectively when a counter-party is not reliable and at least honest.  When they are blatantly deceitful it is also somewhat infuriating.

This should be a lesson to everyone.
-> Gox is a sinking ship. <-
They will take the cash + the coins with them.

They won't be running with the $5M that the US justice system holds, or the $5M that Peter Vesennes stole[?].

It might be possible to achieve a actionable claim from one of those pools, but I suspect in the best case it would be a long and expensive route.


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November 08, 2013, 06:00:22 PM
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which date is the lastest withdrawal of USD from Mtgox?

 Huh

Latest without the emergency fee would probably be from June or July. For all practical purposes that queue is not progressing. Latest with the 5% fee is probably a few weeks old.
Regular USD withdraw I am still waiting from June and still nothing
5% fee withdraw I am waiting for 3 weeks, and still nothing

So, it can take forever.

How many USD did you want to withdraw? is it less than 1k USD?
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November 08, 2013, 06:01:37 PM
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Hello,

i recieved my coins after 30h.
Until today (1,5 days later) they never informed me about it or replied on my support ticket.
I will use them never again. So they "Goxed" me only once, i learned from it.

A business partner which lies to you and didnt communicate when a problem occurs is more then useless.
Smells like fraud. Not trustworthy anymore.
This should be a lesson to everyone.
-> Gox is a sinking ship. <-
They will take the cash + the coins with them.


I have a withdraw still "invisible" neither in blockchain nor in my wallet...

No support response...

Sad

try to penetrate them, i send every 9 hours a new request on the support ticket that its not ok/ i want my coins and so on (dont copy and paste).
Also you could try by chat, or even telefone if they have one.
After 2 days i would open a new ticket.
I also wrote that the community reports all this stuff in the Forum. So they know they will loose customers. But i think they didnt care, becuase they will switch from fee's-business-model to stealing.

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November 08, 2013, 06:55:44 PM
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I do not understand why mtgox doesnt hire some firm to negotiate some new banking partners for them. Bitstamp has no issues(or do they?,
Many people have issues getting bitcoins in to Bitstamp.  Some banks block transfers to Bitstamp.  Bitstamp chose to operate illegally without a license.  It works for them now, but nobody knows for how long.  MtGox are more careful, and decided to apply for a license instead.  MtGox will not get a licence if they operate in violation of the law when applying, so they have to keep to their limits for a little longer until the licensing process is completed.

Sjå https://bitmynt.no for veksling av bitcoin mot norske kroner.  Trygt, billig, raskt og enkelt sidan 2010.
I buy with EUR and other currencies at a fair market price when you want to sell.  See http://bitmynt.no/eurprice.pl
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November 08, 2013, 06:57:45 PM
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Since    11/03/2013    18:20:20 GMT   I sent 700 BTC  to this address:  (  https://blockchain.info/es/address/1PPWBeauKVg3PahkbA3VXXS6zrfvfsMNJC  ) I'm still waiting. The balance in my account looks like he made ​​the shipment but  IT IS NOT TRUE.  Where is my money?

This was my operation and so appears on my Account history:



    There are only 2 possible options: 1) my btc appear in my account so that I can dispose of them, or 2) btc appear in the destination address ( 1PPWBeauKVg3PahkbA3VXXS6zrfvfsMNJC ).

    Since 11/03/2013 18:20:20 GMT I'm still waiting for a solution.

Have they lost my money forever? Where is my money?  


Someone can help me?, Any ideas please?

holy crap! i kind of panicked after reading this and some of the other posts! :O so i rushed home and made a test withdrawal. it went through pretty smooth:




only 3 minutes later (19:45) i had the coins on my bitstamp account (in germany it's 1h later than GMT). i hope i can get the rest of my coins as easy as that! but so far no reason to worry...

what does the support say about ur problem?

edit: well, it seems you got your coins a couple of hours ago. i was able to withdraw another 10 BTC within minutes. so it seems there are no problems with bitcoin withdrawals right now and the 0,001BTC "Fee For Faster Processing" is worth paying for...
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November 08, 2013, 07:36:15 PM
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only 3 minutes later (19:45) i had the coins on my bitstamp account (in germany it's 1h later than GMT). i hope i can get the rest of my coins as easy as that! but so far no reason to worry...

The 700 arrived to:
https://blockchain.info/es/address/1PPWBeauKVg3PahkbA3VXXS6zrfvfsMNJC

what does the support say about ur problem?

Only a dozen people. They simply escalate it to there tech team. Gox is only a small company. And maybe not the most professional on the planet. But I do not know. I've never had trouble with Gox, although I frequently use there service. I love the Mt. Gox REST-API2. It's very powerful and secure. The service is almost always available.

Do not be infected by the panic here. Many people in the English forum love to stir up panic. On the other hand, if you miss 700 BTC, panic is allowed. But only for thyself.

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November 08, 2013, 09:05:26 PM
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Okay people, longest bitcoin transaction in the history of bitcoin here we are:

2013/10/22
04:30:22
withdraw      26.60000000 BTC   0.06053890 BTC
Bitcoin withdraw to 19LFwJJCD664WMFSvv2K7n1saETAVUjThA


That's a BTC withdraw from gox, on 10/22 for 26BTC. Note that the address has never been used.

I've many more withdraws since then, most only a couple days old though, which haven't gone through.


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November 08, 2013, 09:09:07 PM
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hahahah and a half hour ago, they send me this e-mail:

Eiden, Nov 09 05:44 (JST):
Hello,

Thank you for the email. Could you please let us know if you have any pending BTC withdrawal in your Mtgox account,we can see there is no pending withdrawals in your account.

Best regards,

Mt.Gox Team

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November 08, 2013, 09:51:40 PM
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That's a BTC withdraw from gox, on 10/22 for 26BTC. Note that the address has never been used.
This doesn't mean much without more information.  If the address belong to a MtGox account, the transaction will be instant and never hit the blockchain.  (Unless you check Open transaction, which makes it go via the blockchain and require six confirmations like other deposits to MtGox.)  I'm not saying you are wrong and MtGox support is right, but we can't know that without more information. 

Sjå https://bitmynt.no for veksling av bitcoin mot norske kroner.  Trygt, billig, raskt og enkelt sidan 2010.
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November 08, 2013, 10:20:25 PM
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Aha maybe it was to a gox address, i dont know?

How would i check to make sure its gone through then if it was to a gox address?

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November 08, 2013, 11:15:45 PM
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Aha maybe it was to a gox address, i dont know?

How would i check to make sure its gone through then if it was to a gox address?
AFAIK there is no other way than to ask the recipient.  I have hard rumours of an unpublished API call to check if an address belongs to MtGox (money/bitcoin/check_recipient), but it looks like it needs special permissions or perhaps it is depreciated.  I always get the error "Must be logged in" when trying, and I do use my credentials when calling it.

Sjå https://bitmynt.no for veksling av bitcoin mot norske kroner.  Trygt, billig, raskt og enkelt sidan 2010.
I buy with EUR and other currencies at a fair market price when you want to sell.  See http://bitmynt.no/eurprice.pl
Warning: "Bitcoin" XT, Classic, Unlimited and the likes are scams. Don't use them, and don't listen to their shills.
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November 09, 2013, 12:02:17 AM
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I do not understand why mtgox doesnt hire some firm to negotiate some new banking partners for them. Bitstamp has no issues(or do they?,
Many people have issues getting bitcoins in to Bitstamp.  Some banks block transfers to Bitstamp.  Bitstamp chose to operate illegally without a license.  It works for them now, but nobody knows for how long.  MtGox are more careful, and decided to apply for a license instead.  MtGox will not get a licence if they operate in violation of the law when applying, so they have to keep to their limits for a little longer until the licensing process is completed.

Hello,

do you have any proof that Bitstamp operates illegal?!?
I needed there also validation with ID and Postadress.

To be not Regulated in the UK doesnt mean their Service is illegal. (I doubt that this would last long in the UK).
What interest me is as an Investor is that the service is working, honest and trustwothy!
When regulation makes the company like gox in the end, i hope they stay unregulated.

Remember Bitcoins intension was to empower the people, not to devote them under the banks (regulation) again...

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November 09, 2013, 12:04:59 AM
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Just to report that my second september withdraw has arrived, and that I have no more neither fiat nor btc there. Thank you mtgox, and good bye

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November 09, 2013, 12:21:03 AM
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I do not understand why mtgox doesnt hire some firm to negotiate some new banking partners for them. Bitstamp has no issues(or do they?,
Many people have issues getting bitcoins in to Bitstamp.  Some banks block transfers to Bitstamp.  Bitstamp chose to operate illegally without a license.  It works for them now, but nobody knows for how long.  MtGox are more careful, and decided to apply for a license instead.  MtGox will not get a licence if they operate in violation of the law when applying, so they have to keep to their limits for a little longer until the licensing process is completed.

Hello,

do you have any proof that Bitstamp operates illegal?!?
I needed there also validation with ID and Postadress.

To be not Regulated in the UK doesnt mean their Service is illegal. (I doubt that this would last long in the UK).
What interest me is as an Investor is that the service is working, honest and trustwothy!
When regulation makes the company like gox in the end, i hope they stay unregulated.

Remember Bitcoins intension was to empower the people, not to devote them under the banks (regulation) again...

Just FWIW, here's a partial checklist I use these days:

 - Is the domain name registration cloaked?

 - Is the identity of the company principles a guarded secret?

 - Is the business registered in the country in which they operate?

Of course these markers are not a one-to-one match with long-con operations, or operations which eventually pack up shop (with customer's funds) when a certain set of circumstances arise, but there does seem to be a strong correlation.

I only ever did business with Mt. Gox (or tried to) because they did not display these markers.  One of the reason I choose to avoid Bitstamp was because they do seem to.  In no instance to date have I ever entrusted more funds to ANY business than I can afford to lose...and have a chuckle while doing so in fact.

It pisses me off that Mt. Gox has my ID documents now and I have nothing to show for it, but I would be even more alarmed if either Bitstamp or Paymium had them.

I would advise caution if you are hoping to 'stick it to the man' as an excuse for not demanding all available mechanisms to protect your own ass.  Scammers in this environment will leverage that mindset among their userbase to their advantage sometimes.


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November 09, 2013, 12:53:18 AM
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UPDATE: finally the money arrived at my bank account.

This process took about 6 months and I had to pay a 5% fee of the total transfer to "expedite" the transfer. (total transfer was in the thousands).
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