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May 04, 2013, 04:53:23 PM
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Then why so many questions?

People are skeptic. They think "it must be too good to be true". I don't blame them honestly, we are new. We take no offense to anyone calling us a "scam" if that is what they want. The ones who want free BitCoin will use our services, the ones who think it is a scam won't, simple.
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May 04, 2013, 04:57:07 PM
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Fear is when the project becomes too large ... he escape with all the BTCs?


So now is a good time to invest a little of it, because there is still great!?
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May 04, 2013, 05:00:34 PM
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Fear is when the project becomes too large ... he escape with all the BTCs?

So now is a good time to invest a little of it, because there is still great!?
You never know when it's "too large".
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May 04, 2013, 05:04:06 PM
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Let's see what time will tell ...




Is there any way to prove that he is speaking the truth?
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May 04, 2013, 05:19:56 PM
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Nothing will be enough "proof". Even with all of our payouts. What they are saying is that many other sites have been in it for the "long con" meaning they did prove to be legit and then one day got up and disappeared. Yes, time will be the true factor in showing MiningUnited.com is here to stay.

There will be those who think it is a scam and not use our site. Then there will be those who use our site and make free BitCoin. This split will aways be, and that's ok with us.
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May 04, 2013, 05:26:42 PM
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This guy will wait until he has enough money for his trouble, then disappear, he'll never post again, people will get angry and post about it a lot, we'll say I told you so, another will show up the next week, etc.

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Then why so many questions?

People are skeptic. They think "it must be too good to be true". I don't blame them honestly, we are new. We take no offense to anyone calling us a "scam" if that is what they want. The ones who want free BitCoin will use our services, the ones who think it is a scam won't, simple.

Beware anyone who ignores questions about his business plans, and instead posts "skeptics heh, come get your free bitcoins guys, just give me yours first".

Let's see what time will tell ...




Is there any way to prove that he is speaking the truth?
You are about to learn an important life lesson that can save you a lot of money and frustration. People who mention getting "free money" seriously in their posts about their business, you should stay far away from and you should definitely not invest with them.

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May 04, 2013, 06:05:43 PM
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This guy will wait until he has enough money for his trouble, then disappear, he'll never post again, people will get angry and post about it a lot, we'll say I told you so, another will show up the next week, etc.

Please provide your evidence for such a slandering claim.

Since what we are doing is extremely profitable, should we fax over our business plan so others can copy? This is what you want, isn't it?

How is mining bitcoin not, "free money". Last time we checked thousands of people mine for BitCoin to earn "free money".
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May 04, 2013, 06:15:22 PM
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It's obviously a scam. I mean, really, send Bitcoins to some random address and get more back (explanations aren't needed beyond that). Oh, ok. Sure. That's totally legit, lol. There's a sucker born every minute.

Also, the owner is here, see above. Sickening. It's people like him that give Bitcoin a bad name.

And, naturally, he hides his WHOIS information. Why don't you give your real identify MiningUnited? That is a pre-requisite to honest business.
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May 04, 2013, 06:17:12 PM
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This guy will wait until he has enough money for his trouble, then disappear, he'll never post again, people will get angry and post about it a lot, we'll say I told you so, another will show up the next week, etc.

Please provide your evidence for such a slandering claim.

Since what we are doing is extremely profitable, should we fax over our business plan so others can copy? This is what you want, isn't it?

How is mining bitcoin not, "free money". Last time we checked thousands of people mine for BitCoin to earn "free money".

Ah yes, the mythical 'secret business plan' that is just so profitable that you have to give out 10% interest for loans on an internet forum just to conduct business.

Again, that you think mining is free money obviously shows that you haven't thought your fake business plan through very well, and people probably shouldn't loan you money when you are literally begging for it with 10% interest. You're very high risk, and have no answers for questions asked. Oh wait, your 'business plan' is super secret, I forgot.

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May 04, 2013, 06:19:29 PM
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Please provide your evidence for such a slandering claim.

For a statement to be slander or defamation, it must be UNTRUE. As a supposed lawyer (one who says taxes are illegal, urmph Shocked), I'd think you'd know this.. but, oh well.

Anyone with any common sense knows your site is a scam. Please provide your real contact information, since you are using DomainsByProxy to protect your WHOIS information for the domain.

Or, better yet, I'll give you my contact info, and you can sue me (I'd clean house in the counter-suit).
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May 04, 2013, 06:23:55 PM
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The way he hopes his 'business plan' will work is this ...

1. Actually pay out his marginal premiums to people who send him money - AT FIRST
2. As more people sign on, he can continue to do this, especially if Bitcoins rise in value - FOR A WHILE
3. Run away when he can no longer pay out OR earlier - THE END

In reality, he will probably go to prison for running a Ponzi Scheme. Either way, those who send him money lose.

If you do intend on sending this scammer money, at least make sure you get his real identity. It's hidden. Also, once you have that, make sure his business is properly licensed and complies with all laws. He's already stated he doesn't pay taxes. Therefore, who knows when his assets will be seized. Assuming he actually built up anything with this ANONYMOUS PONZI SCHEME SCAM.

Since Ponzi Schemes are illegal, he is already in violation of federal law. Have fun in prison.
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May 04, 2013, 06:38:07 PM
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It is obvious that this is going no where fast. All counter claims are full of so much misinformation trying to tarnish the reputation of our site is ridiculous.

For example, dbcch0 please quote where it says:

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He's already stated he doesn't pay taxes.
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May 04, 2013, 06:49:29 PM
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It is obvious that this is going no where fast. All counter claims are full of so much misinformation trying to tarnish the reputation of our site is ridiculous.

For example, dbcch0 please quote where it says:

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He's already stated he doesn't pay taxes.


In the other thread in which you are communicating. I grabbed some screenshots when I wrote that, in case you remove(d) the posts you made claiming taxation was illegal and you'll "never pay taxes", but no need to waste time on you.  EDIT: He DID delete those posts, lol.

If you think you can make enough money from your 'investors' to cover their returns, which I imagine is your delusional super-secret business plan, good luck with that! And note that you are the millionth person to try a Ponzi Scheme, which is why these were made illegal.
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May 04, 2013, 06:50:11 PM
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it sounds too good to be true, so those things usually are a scam.
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May 04, 2013, 06:52:29 PM
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Possible Scam.
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May 04, 2013, 06:52:34 PM
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It is obvious that this is going no where fast. All counter claims are full of so much misinformation trying to tarnish the reputation of our site is ridiculous.

For example, dbcch0 please quote where it says:

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He's already stated he doesn't pay taxes.


And another attempt to sidestep real questions about his business model, notice how he evades all questions about his business, instead replies to something about taxes, a popular subject on these forums. Classic con man strategy, only answer question not related to the business. I wonder if his next answer will be better than 'free bitcoins!'.

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May 04, 2013, 06:52:59 PM
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it sounds too good to be true, so those things usually are a scam.

Indeed. Common sense goes so far. In this case, 'usually' isn't a strong enough word though.
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May 04, 2013, 06:58:21 PM
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It is obvious that this is going no where fast. All counter claims are full of so much misinformation trying to tarnish the reputation of our site is ridiculous.

For example, dbcch0 please quote where it says:

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He's already stated he doesn't pay taxes.




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In the other thread in which you are communicating. I grabbed some screenshots when I wrote that, in case you remove(d) the posts you made claiming taxation was illegal and you'll "never pay taxes", but no need to waste time on you.  EDIT: He DID delete those posts, lol.

Caught in a lie.  Roll Eyes

Never mentioned anything, anywhere, about taxes. Seems as if the posters in this thread have turned into a bunch of "liars and scammers" themselves, funny.
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May 04, 2013, 07:03:08 PM
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Forum records will show this to be true you fool. Just because you deleted the posts doesn't mean all evidence of them is gone. There are also plenty of witnesses in the thread here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=195086.new;topicseen#new . However, this is all OFF TOPIC.

As was said, explain how this isn't a Ponzi Scheme (it is, and he's in trouble) .. quit deflecting. Tell us about your legit, anonymous, business in which you refuse to reveal your identity and send free money to everyone who sends you money (lol).
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May 04, 2013, 07:07:09 PM
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So you're not addressing the fact that taking loans at a crazy interest rate is an awful business model?

What is so crazy about being able to generate BitCoin and paying back 1-9%?

The fact that you're borrowing money to do it with instead of using your own, and offering ludicrous interest rates to do it? You could get far larger loans with much less interest, except those people would look at your "business plan" and realize it's a classic ponzi scheme.

For the newbies, here's a good thread to read, a (then unknown)ponzi that ran for several months. Notice the similarities in the excuses used by the operators. "I know it looks like a scam but my reputation!".
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=50822

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Getting back on track, so people are left with some clear information about this anonymous 'business' (illegal Ponzi Scheme). I think that's a good place to leave it, before MiningUnited further deflects. And, note that since he's paying out per day, the actual APR for these loans is astronomical. I mean, holy cow ;p. It's so amazingly brazen and absurd... and flat-out illegal.

The thread referenced is about the now infamous pirateat40 who ran a 'Bitcoin savings and loan' ponzi scheme that's been well documented since. Read me and check out adamantly this guy defended himself to the end of his scam (maybe some people are really so delusional they don't realize they have 'invented' yet another Ponzi Scheme)
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