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February 23, 2017, 01:49:27 AM
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Hi,

I can basically get 50% off a graphics card because of this points system i have accumulated on my credit card for years.
They will expire so i figure i should use them now.

I have a goal to try buy a better card in the future and also a better power supply, for now i do not have the budget for that.

I would like to know though of the following cards  which would be basic or okay for mining just in general ?
Is it always AMD first ?

I have the GTX 1050 in mind, not sure if i can manage the ti version but lets go with the vanilla option for now.
I then have the GtX 950 or Gtx 960 forgot which one, Gigabyte brand.
I also have the Radeon RX460 in mind... not sure which but perhaps the Saphire or something.

Of those which would you suggest i get ?
Many thanks i advance.

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February 23, 2017, 01:57:14 AM
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Move this to the altcoin section and I'm sure there will be those who know over there.  This is the bitcoin section and GPUs have been obsolete for bitcoin mining for some time now...

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February 23, 2017, 02:02:03 AM
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These days, for bitcoin, none, most cards could pull about 200-900MH/s, these days we are mining at  +1PH/s or 1,000,000MH/s, at the rate of .15W/GH.

now I don't know what is minable with cards these days in the alternative coins, you may need to look into that.. even on litecoin, you'll get tenth of a cent per week mining with that (may be able to get 1.5MH/s off a RX460? and most people are mining at the GH/s range)

why is this the case you may ask, ASIC (Application Specific Integrated Circuits) have dominated the mining industry, so its not based on 3rd party hardware any more.
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February 23, 2017, 08:26:12 AM
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I would recommend to buy a AMD RX480 with 8 GB memory. So you can mine ETH and XMR with it.

keep mining or die trying
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February 23, 2017, 11:26:48 AM
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I would recommend to buy a AMD RX480 with 8 GB memory. So you can mine ETH and XMR with it.

Will you be okay if i buy 2 graphics cards?
Can i buy 2 RX460?  ( so to confirm , is 2 Rx460 going to be okay or not really strong enough for 6-9 months future proof ?)
Is it better to buy 2 RX470 ?

I am on budget... but i want to try, really.
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February 23, 2017, 12:21:40 PM
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I would recommend to buy a AMD RX480 with 8 GB memory. So you can mine ETH and XMR with it.

Will you be okay if i buy 2 graphics cards?
Can i buy 2 RX460?  ( so to confirm , is 2 Rx460 going to be okay or not really strong enough for 6-9 months future proof ?)
Is it better to buy 2 RX470 ?

I am on budget... but i want to try, really.

you could buy this card

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129324

a good price below

https://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Radeon-GDDR5-DVI-D-Graphics/dp/B01KDYKD9A/ref=sr_1_1?

it is small and runs well I had four of them


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February 23, 2017, 01:37:11 PM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1801590.msg17947480#msg17947480 Huh
Don't you want create another ten same threads?
Two is not enough.

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February 23, 2017, 08:36:57 PM
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I would recommend to buy a AMD RX480 with 8 GB memory. So you can mine ETH and XMR with it.

Will you be okay if i buy 2 graphics cards?
Can i buy 2 RX460?  ( so to confirm , is 2 Rx460 going to be okay or not really strong enough for 6-9 months future proof ?)
Is it better to buy 2 RX470 ?

I am on budget... but i want to try, really.

you could buy this card

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129324

a good price below

https://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Radeon-GDDR5-DVI-D-Graphics/dp/B01KDYKD9A/ref=sr_1_1?

it is small and runs well I had four of them



HI, looks advanced for me, i dont seem to understand how you connect all the graphics cards?
I have a case but and a board which support 2 cards, but i see i do have another 3 smaller PCIE sockets not sure what those are called.
I dont know how or where to the connectors for them to the cards? is this right  that you connecting them like this?

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February 23, 2017, 08:40:51 PM
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I would recommend to buy a AMD RX480 with 8 GB memory. So you can mine ETH and XMR with it.

Will you be okay if i buy 2 graphics cards?
Can i buy 2 RX460?  ( so to confirm , is 2 Rx460 going to be okay or not really strong enough for 6-9 months future proof ?)
Is it better to buy 2 RX470 ?

I am on budget... but i want to try, really.

you could buy this card

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129324

a good price below

https://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Radeon-GDDR5-DVI-D-Graphics/dp/B01KDYKD9A/ref=sr_1_1?

it is small and runs well I had four of them



HI, looks advanced for me, i dont seem to understand how you connect all the graphics cards?
I have a case but and a board which support 2 cards, but i see i do have another 3 smaller PCIE sockets not sure what those are called.
I dont know how or where to the connectors for them to the cards? is this right  that you connecting them like this?



that mother board is 4 slots it is on sale right now


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421&cm_re=biostar_z170-_-13-138-421-_-Product 

use code   022BW44 and it is 82 dollars

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February 23, 2017, 09:03:30 PM
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I would recommend to buy a AMD RX480 with 8 GB memory. So you can mine ETH and XMR with it.

Will you be okay if i buy 2 graphics cards?
Can i buy 2 RX460?  ( so to confirm , is 2 Rx460 going to be okay or not really strong enough for 6-9 months future proof ?)
Is it better to buy 2 RX470 ?

I am on budget... but i want to try, really.

you could buy this card

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814129324

a good price below

https://www.amazon.com/VisionTek-Radeon-GDDR5-DVI-D-Graphics/dp/B01KDYKD9A/ref=sr_1_1?

it is small and runs well I had four of them



HI, looks advanced for me, i dont seem to understand how you connect all the graphics cards?
I have a case but and a board which support 2 cards, but i see i do have another 3 smaller PCIE sockets not sure what those are called.
I dont know how or where to the connectors for them to the cards? is this right  that you connecting them like this?



that mother board is 4 slots it is on sale right now


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138421&cm_re=biostar_z170-_-13-138-421-_-Product 

use code   022BW44 and it is 82 dollars

I unfortunately dont live on any particularly amazing part on earth, well we are not even listed on the world map as far as i am concerned or wait, rather the rest of the word doesn't recognize us.
So newegg superbiz and frys and amazon are out for me, maybe not really amazon because i can get somebody from the UK bring it for me , but normally the UK prices are ALWAYs worse than the american prices.
I can send you some links and you can check for me if you dont mind?  my pc parts sites i use and maybe you can recognize something cool ?
I suppose maybe i should also send you my current pc specs?
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February 23, 2017, 10:30:50 PM
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sure you can do it on the thread or via pm.

be sure to give me which country you are in as this is a world wide site.

I have some contacts in countries other then usa

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February 24, 2017, 03:25:34 AM
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If you are on budget you might want to go for RX470 4GB (nitro+ are generally ok) rather than rx460 as the former is more or less twice as fast.
Difference between RX470 and RX480 is quite small so that it's generally not interesting to go for RX480 model unless the price difference is very small.
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February 24, 2017, 03:41:50 AM
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460s aren't really worth it if you're trying to start a farm. even if you get them for $70, you'll end up paying more compared to 470s due to needing more boards/psus/cpus etc.
480s aren't worth it either, 4gb model is not really faster than 470 in eth and uses more power. 8gb model is only a little faster, but costs a lot more.
Nvidia cards are a bit riskier because they're not really good at mining eth for the price, and zec (which nv does ok in) is more likely to tank than eth. They are expensive but efficient in general.
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February 24, 2017, 01:16:11 PM
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460s aren't really worth it if you're trying to start a farm. even if you get them for $70, you'll end up paying more compared to 470s due to needing more boards/psus/cpus etc.
480s aren't worth it either, 4gb model is not really faster than 470 in eth and uses more power. 8gb model is only a little faster, but costs a lot more.
Nvidia cards are a bit riskier because they're not really good at mining eth for the price, and zec (which nv does ok in) is more likely to tank than eth. They are expensive but efficient in general.


Hi thanks for your replies... everybody..... now....
i guess the RX470 is the best then... and i will get the 4GB model... maybe i should stop stressing, i have been thinking about his for 2 weeks now.
Will it be good for me to get 2 of them  and run them together.... i have an MSI A88X G43 motherboard..... with an AMD X4 860K CPU  and 16GB ram not sure if ram is important...also really strange as the 8GB of ram is showing a strange FSB and it should be 1866 megahertz im not sue maybe im looking in the wrong place....
also my CPUs is very sad but please bear in mind i came from AMD Athlon 2500+ form like 10 years ago! with DDR1.... and AGP7800
Anyways my CPU is sad because i only get like 110 hashes per second on Aeon or 50to 55 hashes per second when mining XMR...   i just chose those, i dont really have a clue which to mine...
Anwyays its very sad that this cpu is so slow , i seriously cant believe it. and i just bought the stuff like 8 months ago... so yeh very sad about it.
If you can please help me understand my RAM issue and guide me and also comment  on the CPU...

Anyways... next thing, why is there so much hype about Ethereum and Zec, not sure what Zec is....

I wish i could just go buy a i5 or i7 fuck i dont know how people do and where they get the money from.

so to confirm, u reckon getting an RX460 or even 2 of them its pointless ?   and that goes for GTX 960 OC Gigabyte brand IT ONLY HAS 2 GB of ram... hmm probably the RX460 i saw also has 2 GB only....
the best bet would be the RX470

and also another one please.... if i get the RX470 does the brand matter?
I have seen great deals for my pocket... for the HIS and the POWERCOLOR brands....   the HIS is like 100 Rand or ZAR cheaper for me....  it also looks decent also seems to be Asia founded, could be wrong...
I mean i am not sure if i must really get proper stuff like the exact name like Saphire and Nitro and Strix whatever.... and they seem to be more pricey....
I can send u the links of my sites i go to...
www.wootware.co.za is one of them and the best here for me, they have the best prices , really.

Thanks for reading, and i am just only trying to give details so apologies if it is long
appreciate the help and feedback
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February 27, 2017, 06:46:03 AM
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460s aren't really worth it if you're trying to start a farm. even if you get them for $70, you'll end up paying more compared to 470s due to needing more boards/psus/cpus etc.
480s aren't worth it either, 4gb model is not really faster than 470 in eth and uses more power. 8gb model is only a little faster, but costs a lot more.
Nvidia cards are a bit riskier because they're not really good at mining eth for the price, and zec (which nv does ok in) is more likely to tank than eth. They are expensive but efficient in general.


Hi thanks for your replies... everybody..... now....
i guess the RX470 is the best then... and i will get the 4GB model... maybe i should stop stressing, i have been thinking about his for 2 weeks now.
Will it be good for me to get 2 of them  and run them together.... i have an MSI A88X G43 motherboard..... with an AMD X4 860K CPU  and 16GB ram not sure if ram is important...also really strange as the 8GB of ram is showing a strange FSB and it should be 1866 megahertz im not sue maybe im looking in the wrong place....
also my CPUs is very sad but please bear in mind i came from AMD Athlon 2500+ form like 10 years ago! with DDR1.... and AGP7800
Anyways my CPU is sad because i only get like 110 hashes per second on Aeon or 50to 55 hashes per second when mining XMR...   i just chose those, i dont really have a clue which to mine...
Anwyays its very sad that this cpu is so slow , i seriously cant believe it. and i just bought the stuff like 8 months ago... so yeh very sad about it.
If you can please help me understand my RAM issue and guide me and also comment  on the CPU...

Anyways... next thing, why is there so much hype about Ethereum and Zec, not sure what Zec is....

I wish i could just go buy a i5 or i7 fuck i dont know how people do and where they get the money from.

so to confirm, u reckon getting an RX460 or even 2 of them its pointless ?   and that goes for GTX 960 OC Gigabyte brand IT ONLY HAS 2 GB of ram... hmm probably the RX460 i saw also has 2 GB only....
the best bet would be the RX470

and also another one please.... if i get the RX470 does the brand matter?
I have seen great deals for my pocket... for the HIS and the POWERCOLOR brands....   the HIS is like 100 Rand or ZAR cheaper for me....  it also looks decent also seems to be Asia founded, could be wrong...
I mean i am not sure if i must really get proper stuff like the exact name like Saphire and Nitro and Strix whatever.... and they seem to be more pricey....
I can send u the links of my sites i go to...
www.wootware.co.za is one of them and the best here for me, they have the best prices , really.

Thanks for reading, and i am just only trying to give details so apologies if it is long
appreciate the help and feedback


Between the HIS and the powercolor, i would choose the Powercolor. Main reason being the presence of a 8pin power connector (vs only 6pin power connector for the HIS).
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