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March 20, 2017, 05:46:02 AM Last edit: March 20, 2017, 06:10:02 AM by Victorycoin |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That indeed was the purpose of provable fairness, but when a site hides the hashes and shows it only after a player requests/click some buttons, it leaves one wondering what goes on behind the closed doors. For a dice site to be truly fair, it should be able to display the hashes before a games, so that any player can verify with the outcome afterwards that there was no fowl play. This was the ordeal of a player http://themerkle.com/999dice-scam-exposed/ They must have had to improve by now because you can now actually leave their "Fair Bets" button open while you roll to see how the server seed hash changes as you roll.
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MinerHQ
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March 20, 2017, 06:27:41 AM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. But if anyone knows how to run this gambling business will not try to cheat people for small profits because these guys knows in the longer run they are going to win and they can make a good money from this business. So most established sites and some of new sites also will not do any cheating but we just need to choose the correct one. Some small sites will still cheat people for the idea of quick money. You can run a casino business with Bitcoin very well, but that's just it, you have to run it very well and most people are not capable of doing it which is why they are likely to scam instead. Basically to run any gambling site one need to have a huge bankroll to maintain a site. If don't have a huge bankroll then the most likely site will end up either in a scam or may close. That's why you should always choose a trusted site to gamble. But if they run it properly it is a very good business and they can make a lot of money from it.
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giveen
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March 23, 2017, 11:37:46 PM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date. well most of the well known dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players. Yeah that's one point but I'm not a person who actually likes to gamble as I'm totally sure gambling is just like donating money to someone who already has. Even though i trust the probably fair i just invest in dice sites and try to earn atleast 5-15% profit per month.
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Jasad
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March 23, 2017, 11:58:05 PM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date. well most of the well known dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players. Yeah that's one point but I'm not a person who actually likes to gamble as I'm totally sure gambling is just like donating money to someone who already has. Even though i trust the probably fair i just invest in dice sites and try to earn atleast 5-15% profit per month. no way you can earn 15% profit monthly through casino investment , unless of course if the site was shady , it's too good tro be true , mostly has less than 5% , but wait i remember there's a profit difficulity too there right? you might put it on higher risk? but still hard to completely 100% to any online dice site , they can run away anytime who knows.
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aardvark15
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March 24, 2017, 12:57:18 AM |
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I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
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Oilacris
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March 24, 2017, 01:12:18 AM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date. well most of the well known dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players. Yeah that's one point but I'm not a person who actually likes to gamble as I'm totally sure gambling is just like donating money to someone who already has. Even though i trust the probably fair i just invest in dice sites and try to earn atleast 5-15% profit per month. no way you can earn 15% profit monthly through casino investment , unless of course if the site was shady , it's too good tro be true , mostly has less than 5% , but wait i remember there's a profit difficulity too there right? you might put it on higher risk? but still hard to completely 100% to any online dice site , they can run away anytime who knows. You cant see any gambling site that do give high returns on monthly basis 15% is exaggerated to be mention since we do all know their returns arent too high IMHO. ROI would be longer than expected depends on how the site is profiting and if it does then its better because you will surely gain positive but remember that this thing happens all the time because there are instances which you will also experience negative profits on a particular month.
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March 24, 2017, 01:48:07 AM |
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I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
You sound you are using simple or modified martingale strategy. Are you how much sure that you will not have bad luck on daily basis. When you are getting continuous winning streaks, have you ever think about why you are getting them ? Unfortunately our strategies are not dealing with winning streaks to make use of them the maximum (because strategies are concerning only on avoiding losses and dealing to tackle losing streaks). If you have a strategy to deal both winning and losses then you can doubt about the gambling house. Houses are technically neutral but our luck is not favoring us.
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thisappointed
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March 24, 2017, 04:49:53 AM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
That's true, but I'd still stick to more established and reputable casinos. Provably fair doesn't guarantee you will be allowed to win and cash out. It's easy to implement provably fair function and then take people's winnings and close the site down. But if anyone knows how to run this gambling business will not try to cheat people for small profits because these guys knows in the longer run they are going to win and they can make a good money from this business. So most established sites and some of new sites also will not do any cheating but we just need to choose the correct one. Some small sites will still cheat people for the idea of quick money. You can run a casino business with Bitcoin very well, but that's just it, you have to run it very well and most people are not capable of doing it which is why they are likely to scam instead. Basically to run any gambling site one need to have a huge bankroll to maintain a site. If don't have a huge bankroll then the most likely site will end up either in a scam or may close. That's why you should always choose a trusted site to gamble. But if they run it properly it is a very good business and they can make a lot of money from it. Correct. It is not that easy to maintain a certain gambling site especially if this site do have a big name and which is trusted by all the gamblers here in the crypto world, so they have to be careful about managing their sites. They have to manage their funds in order to have successful rolls in their games like DICE, which is the game that is the most played here in the online Casinos. That is why there are lots of stuffs to consider in managing a gambling site because it requires a lot hard works, time, and effort, so its not an easy job to begin with. And if you guys are not yet ready to manage one, it would be better if you will back off for now.
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March 24, 2017, 04:58:25 AM |
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I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
If you play in provably fair casino you can actually verify your results yourself. Only play in trusted dice site which shows you Hashed server seed and client seed for your next roll so that you can verify it if you are not satisfied with your roll.
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EdenHazard
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March 24, 2017, 05:00:06 AM |
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I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
You sound you are using simple or modified martingale strategy. Are you how much sure that you will not have bad luck on daily basis. When you are getting continuous winning streaks, have you ever think about why you are getting them ? Unfortunately our strategies are not dealing with winning streaks to make use of them the maximum (because strategies are concerning only on avoiding losses and dealing to tackle losing streaks). If you have a strategy to deal both winning and losses then you can doubt about the gambling house. Houses are technically neutral but our luck is not favoring us. the only bad thing that most people have recently in gambling are they blame the game or the site as rigged , suspected not fair when they suffering lost only , but when they ge unexpected winning , an accident bet winning they did not make any complaint. so as long as a lot of people can verify with certain method a dice site as fair , then we can follow it as fair , of course with a careful verification.
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Viscore
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March 24, 2017, 05:21:17 AM |
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I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
If you play in provably fair casino you can actually verify your results yourself. Only play in trusted dice site which shows you Hashed server seed and client seed for your next roll so that you can verify it if you are not satisfied with your roll. That's right and there is no doubt that most of the popular casinos here are legitimate and they would not ruin their business not doing what they say. The only thing is we will really lose because of the house edge that is why it's called a luck base game because we can only win if we are lucky enough.
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March 24, 2017, 06:08:18 AM |
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Dice sites are reliable, you can find some of them here in the forum. You can figure out by yourself the site if you know how to check it. The provably fair is clearly indicated before you play, so if you bet supposed to be you already understand it.
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March 24, 2017, 06:45:21 AM |
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Dice sites are reliable, you can find some of them here in the forum. You can figure out by yourself the site if you know how to check it. The provably fair is clearly indicated before you play, so if you bet supposed to be you already understand it.
Yes, many dice sites are reliable. For example, bitsler even though it is not a very old site but within a short period, it has gained many people trust in this forum and growing very faster. Players need to do verify sites before depositing money and this forum has a lot of information on all gambling sites to verify.
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michkima
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March 24, 2017, 08:20:01 AM |
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Dice sites are reliable, you can find some of them here in the forum. You can figure out by yourself the site if you know how to check it. The provably fair is clearly indicated before you play, so if you bet supposed to be you already understand it.
Yes, many dice sites are reliable. For example, bitsler even though it is not a very old site but within a short period, it has gained many people trust in this forum and growing very faster. Players need to do verify sites before depositing money and this forum has a lot of information on all gambling sites to verify. Bitsler is indeed nice, since they give out a good amount of faucet money when you use their faucets. You could also check out fortune jack. They also don't have any issues about scams or bad reputation. Overall, both are good dice sites, but fortune jack offers more variety. If you ask me if I'd play on both site, then I would say yes.
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Catmony
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March 24, 2017, 12:55:59 PM |
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I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
I have also lost in rows for many times and i think it is normal if you can verify those results. Most of the casino these days provide provably fair games but you have to look for house edge also because that is also another important factor that affect your winnings. Low house edge dice are perfect to make some profit.
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Ashong Salonga
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March 24, 2017, 01:19:46 PM |
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For me every dice site is reliable and it is provably fair, I know lots of gamblers are losing in most gambling sites and most of them whine because they lose But there are people who are winning and most of them are whales. IF you really want to win in a gambling site you need to have a bigger bankroll. Most of those winners are has a big bankroll.
True, dice sites are fair and reliable because, before I used this signature campaign to earn bitcoin, I use gambling site which is dice to earn. Once a week I play dice game to gain a profit. When I win in gambling I store the half so that even if I lose I still have the half of it, and the remaining will be gamble again.
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giveen
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March 24, 2017, 02:36:53 PM |
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Most dice sites offer the "third party verification" feature.
Provably fair was created mainly to ensure that dice sites are reliable!
Yes exactly that is the only way we can actually verify that the gamble we lost was by the fair system. I normally only gamble on a site if it has probably fair mark aa it is trusted and i haven't heard any sort of manipulation done till date. well most of the well known dice site are using provably fair system to make sure that their players will trusted them and the business will continue for the benefits of both ends its a practice by successful gambling business which already established for btc players. Yeah that's one point but I'm not a person who actually likes to gamble as I'm totally sure gambling is just like donating money to someone who already has. Even though i trust the probably fair i just invest in dice sites and try to earn atleast 5-15% profit per month. no way you can earn 15% profit monthly through casino investment , unless of course if the site was shady , it's too good tro be true , mostly has less than 5% , but wait i remember there's a profit difficulity too there right? you might put it on higher risk? but still hard to completely 100% to any online dice site , they can run away anytime who knows. Lol no way it's basically i used my brains before when i saw the site was at a profit of some 70 btc and i knew one day it will go down and then after few weeks the profit went below till 45 btc i invested mostlu everything i had till leverage 7 and now the profit is at 65 btc and i cashed out everything. You should basically use your brains and not simply invest at any profit
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March 24, 2017, 03:13:56 PM |
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I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
When the provably fair system is implemented right it is impossible to cheat and manipulate the game. It is just gamblers who think that when they play low system is letting the, win and when they raise the stake it is signal for casino to steal their money. Go to live casino and test whether you wouldn't have losing steaks at inconvenient times; been there done that...
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TravelMug
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March 24, 2017, 06:48:28 PM |
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I play dice on a site and I do sometimes question whether they manipulate the game. It's probably legit, but it seems that I get losing streaks at inconvenient times. But I guess there's really no convenient time for a losing streak.
When the provably fair system is implemented right it is impossible to cheat and manipulate the game. It is just gamblers who think that when they play low system is letting the, win and when they raise the stake it is signal for casino to steal their money. Go to live casino and test whether you wouldn't have losing steaks at inconvenient times; been there done that... I also have the same experienced. I'm betting low and the system let me win. But when I raise the stake the streak begins. But I'm not blaming the dice site because I know its trusted. Maybe my luck ran out that's why the losing streak begin. I've been in live casino and online and I agree with you losing streak comes in very inconvenient times like you think you are gonna win big but then the streak begins and you lost everything.
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YTBitcoin
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March 24, 2017, 07:18:17 PM |
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There are many dice sites. Are these sites reliable? So is it really the end of the bets based on luck? Or is it programmed to win the dice site?
On dice sites it maybe based on luck but up to some level skill and programming of the script is also involved. For the dice sites I will give my suggestion that if you are gambling on any dice site for entertainment then it is not a problem while if you are gambling on these dice sites for earning profit then it will not be reliable because it will not give you what you will expect from that.
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