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February 27, 2017, 03:48:17 PM
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I was just asking around here about this. While high fees don't "break" bitcoin it probably will hurt adoption and I think that'd be enough to get some attention (although I'm not sure the community could come to an agreement on a solution).

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February 27, 2017, 10:04:15 PM
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You can try your luck and make a transaction with low fee, but looking at the network right now it will be dropped, just wait until sometime when the network isn't congested.

This morning was ideal for such transaction, there were very few transactions waiting.

I tried this morning. Last Friday the fee for sending out 0.05 was over 1BTC, this morning it was like 0.1, still twice the amount to send!
Even it were ten times lower (which seems it is not going to happen ever again) a puny 0.01 it'd be a 20% which still is ridiculous.
why don't you just sweep your private keys into a different wallet and try to resend?
as achow pointed out above,you must be having a glitch in your wallet software
afaik armory allows export of the private keys through -"Backup This Wallet" - option "Export Key Lists" (must have adveanced options on)

this will show you your addresses and corresponding private keys
then download Electrum or use any other wallet that supports private keys import
with Electrum you should paste your keys into  Sweep Private Keys box

and then try to send your transaction again,it should not cost over 0.001 bitcoins

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February 28, 2017, 08:24:04 AM
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why don't you just sweep your private keys into a different wallet and try to resend?

Because the issue is unrelated to the wallet, thus sweeping will not work (as it creates a TX) and neither will importing (you will have the same problem). I think the only way to still use these coins is to spend them with larger inputs, according to my estimates it will still result in an overall loss of coins unless the network fee gets significantly lower (~half)[1!]. I played with the idea of buying OPs private keys and just doing it myself.[2]

as achow pointed out above,you must be having a glitch in your wallet software
afaik armory allows export of the private keys through -"Backup This Wallet" - option "Export Key Lists" (must have adveanced options on)

this will show you your addresses and corresponding private keys
then download Electrum or use any other wallet that supports private keys import
with Electrum you should paste your keys into  Sweep Private Keys box

and then try to send your transaction again,it should not cost over 0.001 bitcoins

500 inputs worth 0.0001 each currently cost more than 0.005 to spend. Cointape right now suggests 180 satoshi per byte for a timely confirmation. Each input weights 180 bytes and is worth 0.0001, thus the fee needed to spend each input is 3 times as high as the inputs value.

tl;dr: 180*180/10^8 > 0.0001

[1] apparently it increased since my last calculation, see below for the second part.
[2] @emsi feel free to contact me via PM about this.

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