Data Center Mining Garage and Man Mining Cave ( PART 2 !!!!!!!!)

[Elder III]

Such places don't even exist in my rural area, nor would it work for us for other reasons, but out of curiosity, would you care to share the approximate figure that data center rental would cost each month?

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[DoCApocalypto]

I just want order second rig. But prices of gtx 1070/1060 are insane .

I will make call to main eshops in my state and tried to get P106 6gb 

[blueMoonshine]

Still in negotiation.

First quote, 42U rack at 12kW MAX, unlimited use of power and cooling, $1250/month.

Requested they quote with variable power use. Toured the facility, now waiting for the re-quote.

Basing my calculations on 9-10 4U E-ATX cases.

[yun9999]

BACK Y'all........................  been so busy with so many things in life.     Have lots of exciting things to share..................just need time to gather the stuff, upload,etc.  I wish Bitcointalk have a newer interface to allow easier uploading without needing to transfer to imgur first, etc.

[deadsix]

BACK Y'all........................  been so busy with so many things in life.     Have lots of exciting things to share..................just need time to gather the stuff, upload,etc.  I wish Bitcointalk have a newer interface to allow easier uploading without needing to transfer to imgur first, etc.

Cant wait ... 

[Storx]

Still in negotiation.

First quote, 42U rack at 12kW MAX, unlimited use of power and cooling, $1250/month.

Requested they quote with variable power use. Toured the facility, now waiting for the re-quote.

Basing my calculations on 9-10 4U E-ATX cases.

does that even make it profitable?

I am shopping around for space to build my next rigs into and expand myself. At my current operating cost and earnings mining on zpool mainly, im averaging right around 1 to 2.3 ratio. So for every $1 ive put into the setup, it will net me $2.3/yr tell all the equipment is payed off over the course of a year, then its just overhead on the equipment.....

I have been thinking of just buying a small 2 bedroom fixer upper house with garage space and turn the garage into a cooling chamber. I have my main PC at home that is watercooled and just a week ago i took my hottest rig, which is 4 x 1080ti MSI Armors (terrible cooling cards) and installed Kraken G12's on them with universal GPU blocks from ekwb to keep the cost right around $60/card to convert. i have the rig sitting in the laundry room as a test location (the laundry room is the room you have to pass through between the kitchen and the garage. I ran pex line temp through the drywall into the garage and i have the radiator sitting in the garage cooling the rigs, so far the concept is working out... my card temps are far lower than any air card i have running, but the temps are not as nice as the watercooled gaming pc, because the garage has no windows and only ventilates through a leaky garage door, so the room over time gets to a set temps and just stays at that temp. If i was to ventilate the garage more i am almost certain i could get the cards down into the low 50's on temps.

The idea would allow me to just leave the computer/rigs inside the house to be cooled by the a/c to some degree leaving the a/c set in the 80's, but majority of the heat would be pulled out of the house via the waterlines and dumped into the garage to be vented to atmosphere.....If the test rig continues to be reliable, i plan to upscale this to multiple rigs, because you gain a small % of additional earnings from the cooler temps on the gpu's also.. to offset the cost of the conversion. The reason i dont want to buy already converted gpu's, is because if i do want to dump them i can just put the air fans back on and sell them, otherwise i would be stuck with 50 watercooled gpu's for a niche market to buy used... plus using the kraken kit along with a universal water block allows it to be transferred to another card in the future when i upgrade.

Plus if i buy a cheaper 2 bedroom fixer upper in my area, the mortgage and insurance would run me around $300/month, so the rigs would literally act as house renters and pay the house for me over time.

[onefinecoin]

BACK Y'all........................  been so busy with so many things in life.     Have lots of exciting things to share..................just need time to gather the stuff, upload,etc.  I wish Bitcointalk have a newer interface to allow easier uploading without needing to transfer to imgur first, etc.

Ohh !! i was starting to wonder where you had disappeared !! Waiting eagerly for the updates.

[chiwalfrm]

yun9999 how much did it cost to upgrade from your original 150amp  service to 550 ?  I am trying to upgrade from 200amps to 400amps and got a quote of $11K.  Also in Texas.

How are you able to get a second meter ?  I called Centerpoint and they said there is no way a residential house can have a second electrical meter.

[cavaliersrus]

welcome back yun cant wait to see the new pics / update you have

[Marvell1]

yun9999 how much did it cost to upgrade from your original 150amp  service to 550 ?  I am trying to upgrade from 200amps to 400amps and got a quote of $11K.  Also in Texas.

How are you able to get a second meter ?  I called Centerpoint and they said there is no way a residential house can have a second electrical meter.

11K seems high when you already have 200amp

You can have a separate meter on a detached garage or separate building on your property, I did it an added 600amps to my garage and on top of that i set it up using business
info so i got far lower buisness rates on the seccond meter

all for 13k for 600amp

[BeerMan81]

yun9999 how much did it cost to upgrade from your original 150amp  service to 550 ?  I am trying to upgrade from 200amps to 400amps and got a quote of $11K.  Also in Texas.

How are you able to get a second meter ?  I called Centerpoint and they said there is no way a residential house can have a second electrical meter.

Centerpoint is a pain in the ass to deal with. I just finished my service upgrade from a 100A to a 400A on my house. Back and forth on possible solutions. At first they said it was not possible, then they later said it was ok to have a separate meter (would have to be business). However, the transformer in my neighbor's yard had NO spare connections. I wanted a dedicated 400A service to my shed, but they wouldn't allow because there was not enough space to terminate new wires.

So, literally today, my shed was powered up. 400A service to the home through a new 100 foot run of 2 1/2" conduit, buried 20" below grade. However, they have the 80% rule, so i really only have 320A. My home now ties into that service, on a 100A panel (no changes), then we have a 225A disconnect that feeds power back to the shed's dedicated breaker panel.

11K seems high when you already have 200amp

You can have a separate meter on a detached garage or separate building on your property, I did it an added 600amps to my garage and on top of that i set it up using business info so i got far lower business rates on the seccond meter

all for 13k for 600amp

My original estimate was like 10k including digging, but that was before Centerpoint started making problems. I would expect closer to 12k.

For me the biggest cost was the digging crew.

[tbonetony]

This is so cool. great job, OP.

My question is how did you manage to install 3 electrical panels? It looks like you are in US or Canada. Do they allow you to install more than one in a residential property simply?

[mpnet]

yun9999, thank you for these two threads. i started reading them two weeks ago from the start, and i felt like a time traveler, thinking to myself "oh my, if you only knew..", especially when i saw the reactions to the first spike (money printers getting stuck ^^)

i'm dying to know how the story continued!

[sevenmiles]

yun9999 how much did it cost to upgrade from your original 150amp  service to 550 ?  I am trying to upgrade from 200amps to 400amps and got a quote of $11K.  Also in Texas.

How are you able to get a second meter ?  I called Centerpoint and they said there is no way a residential house can have a second electrical meter.

Centerpoint is a pain in the ass to deal with. I just finished my service upgrade from a 100A to a 400A on my house. Back and forth on possible solutions. At first they said it was not possible, then they later said it was ok to have a separate meter (would have to be business). However, the transformer in my neighbor's yard had NO spare connections. I wanted a dedicated 400A service to my shed, but they wouldn't allow because there was not enough space to terminate new wires.

So, literally today, my shed was powered up. 400A service to the home through a new 100 foot run of 2 1/2" conduit, buried 20" below grade. However, they have the 80% rule, so i really only have 320A. My home now ties into that service, on a 100A panel (no changes), then we have a 225A disconnect that feeds power back to the shed's dedicated breaker panel.

11K seems high when you already have 200amp

You can have a separate meter on a detached garage or separate building on your property, I did it an added 600amps to my garage and on top of that i set it up using business info so i got far lower business rates on the seccond meter

all for 13k for 600amp

My original estimate was like 10k including digging, but that was before Centerpoint started making problems. I would expect closer to 12k.

For me the biggest cost was the digging crew.

I am considering doing the same project to my newly built detached garage...wondering the digging cost part...if it costs 10k, can i just dig by myself? i don;t think digging work requires permit, right? and i doubt the electricians really want to dig...

[R0mi]

Another solution other than what I stated previously "to reverse the fan, so it pushes air, instead of pulling air. Helped with the noise a lot for me."

is to double up your hp server psu so they aren't running near 100% loud. Since they are so cheap, you can get another one if noise is an issue.

For example, if you have a rig using 900 watts on the HP PSU, then the fan is going to whine like hell. Now if you split that load between 2 HP PSU, so each one is only using about 450w, then it greatly reduces the fan workload, so no more screaming demons.

You can also add a heatsink + thermal paste, like this one from eBay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Big-Aluminum-Heatsink-Heat-sink-radiator-for-Led-High-Power-Amplifier-amp/122445133345?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

$6.50 but it will take a few weeks to arrive from China.

[R0mi]

@ All - Favor to ask to keep the thread easier to follow and less repetitive.  Let's use @ person for the response when possible rather than quote the entire post for the ones with pictures to keep it less bulky / more scrolling.  It will be more important as this thread gets past 40-50 pages where I need to do more streamlining.  


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First I want to thank all the people who are supporting me on this project
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@YSYLUNG - Does the HP 1500W have bigger fans and is maybe quieter?  I need a server PSU solution for the server case and the IBM 2KW wont' fit sideways nor is there a good fan solution in that space to keep either the HP1200W or the IBM 2KW PSU cool.



Thank you everyone for following and for your valuable feedback and support.

The HP 1,200 when plugged into 110v gets insanely hot, thus the crazy high noise level.  The HP 1,500 doesn't run on 110v as it requires 220v.  A passive heatsink on the HP 1,500 will help keep the fan from revving up too high, if you are only driving it about 1/2 - 2/3 rated output.

[yun9999]

Sorry been busy building my Bitmain L3 and 1080Ti army and have been neglecting this thread.

Fun pics  

L3 Mini Army





(1080Ti Aorus Army)





Testing 1080TI EVGA SC2  Army with the 13 GPU ASROCK H110 MB.  I tried 12 GPU and powered them with a IBM 4KW PSU, works like a champ.

[Hui8]

This is very cool mining rig I have ever seen. Thanks for sharing the pics man. It is very motivating that you have taken the mining job so seriously. The home is completely surrounded by the miners and you have almost made a data centre which looks professional and IT infrastructure from inside.

Your hash rates are amazing and I believe you have got all the gpu's from your city. Lols. Look at the numbers man. Must be bright feeling when you are seating around that miners inside that garage. Nice one.

[cavaliersrus]

everytime i come into this thread i see awesome stuff as always from yun and others

[navydude]

yun9999 how much did it cost to upgrade from your original 150amp  service to 550 ?  I am trying to upgrade from 200amps to 400amps and got a quote of $11K.  Also in Texas.

How are you able to get a second meter ?  I called Centerpoint and they said there is no way a residential house can have a second electrical meter.

Centerpoint is a pain in the ass to deal with. I just finished my service upgrade from a 100A to a 400A on my house. Back and forth on possible solutions. At first they said it was not possible, then they later said it was ok to have a separate meter (would have to be business). However, the transformer in my neighbor's yard had NO spare connections. I wanted a dedicated 400A service to my shed, but they wouldn't allow because there was not enough space to terminate new wires.

So, literally today, my shed was powered up. 400A service to the home through a new 100 foot run of 2 1/2" conduit, buried 20" below grade. However, they have the 80% rule, so i really only have 320A. My home now ties into that service, on a 100A panel (no changes), then we have a 225A disconnect that feeds power back to the shed's dedicated breaker panel.

11K seems high when you already have 200amp

You can have a separate meter on a detached garage or separate building on your property, I did it an added 600amps to my garage and on top of that i set it up using business info so i got far lower business rates on the seccond meter

all for 13k for 600amp

My original estimate was like 10k including digging, but that was before Centerpoint started making problems. I would expect closer to 12k.

For me the biggest cost was the digging crew.

Damn Man! I had a new 200 amp service set  for my new storage building.  I had $500 in parts to build the service(6x6 post, 200 amp box w/main for outdoor and 200 amp panel for inside, ground rod, conduit and a few other items.) Im figuring about $100 dollars for  the wire to feed the shed as thats the last thing i need to have it all finished. Entergy dropped overhead service 150 feet for free. I should have less than 1000 bucks. I was gonna go underground but he told me 3.10 per foot plus some other fees and i had to dig and put the conduit in. .....I was like is there another way? He said yeah we can go overhead for no charge to you!