A simple way to decentralize discussions: copy-paste your posts

[Findus]

Like many of us long-time bitcoiners, I'm sick of the war between "us" and "them" on redd1t. I'm talking solely about subs, not about different bitcoin implementations or proposals (these are fundamentally separate issues, only superficially related).

Obviously, no sub is perfect. I'm not going to argue which one is better than the other(s), nor even which flaws and advantages each one brings to the table. I'd simply like to suggest a way to improve the situation, by decentralizing these various advantages and flaws.

I'm asking the whole bitcoin community to do this simple effort: every post you submit to your favorite sub or on this forum, please submit it to at least one other bitcoin sub.

And if possible, if you comment on a post on one sub or forum topic, copy-paste the same comment if there is the same post on an other sub or forum topic.

"What if I get shitty answers/downvotes?" So what? Just ignore them. "Then what's the point?" To decentralize all points of control of discussions.

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[davis196]

Why do you care about this?
I don`t read bitcoin related subreddits and i don`t use reddit.
People have different opinions and diffrerent goals and this is normal.
I can`t see how this "copy-paste your posts" thing will stop people from arguing against each other.
If you have a problem with this,just don`t read bitcoin subreddit posts.

[Findus]

I care about this because bitcoin relies on a system of incentives, which can only work if most agents are mostly rationals. And for agents to be rational, they need to be well-informed. If information in the bitcoin community is sequestered into compartments with very different flavors, the community is bound to be split and the agents are bound to be ill-informed.

People have different opinions and diffrerent goals and this is normal.

That is not my issue. I surely hope that different people have different opinions and different goals. And I do not want people to stop arguing against each others.
The issue is when one is exposed to only one side of argument, which shapes one's opinion, even though one would have reached a different conclusion if only one would have been exposed to the arguments of several "teams".
Therefore, I want to decentralize the discussions.

If you have a problem with this,just don`t read bitcoin subreddit posts.

Now, that is exactly the problem! To have a constructive thinking process, you have to explore a bit away from your comfort zone.

[Findus]

An answer from frank01945 on r/bitcoin:

> great idea!

[Findus]

An answer from viners on r/btc:

> The problem is that the majority of people only read one sub and don't know that others exist.



My answer to that:

I think many r/bitcoin people know that r/btc exists, but when you look at the frontpage of r/btc, ALL posts are related to only two topics: BU vs segwit, or r/btc vs r/bitcoin.
This is unlike r/bitcoin, where, you could argue, MOST posts are also related to the same two topics, but at least there is a bit more diversity in the topics.
Therefore, I think we have to improve the quality of r/btc before we can expect most r/bitcoin people (most of the bitcoin community) to join r/btc.

[Findus]

An answer from italeffect on r/btc:

> Except that a large amount of people posting in r/btc have been banned from /r/bitcoin, so can't post there even if they wanted to.


And my response to that:

1. Of course I submitted the exact same post to r/bitcoin. I'm asking r/bitcoin people to also post on r/btc, to increase the quality and diversity of r/btc, without the drawback of heavy censorship.
2. What r/btc people can do anyway, is to browse r/bitcoin, find a quality post (or just a funny meme or whatever), and post it here too, in order to broaden the conversation.

[naughty1]

I do not know why you think so? what makes you think more negative? we all have a right to voice their thoughts, because this is a forum for everyone who loves Bitcoin. why do you say we argue? it was discussed and give their opinion, and that is absolutely correct. Your thinking too negative

[jacafbiz]

If this is coming as a result of Bitcoin Core VS Bitcoin Unlimited, I don't buy the idea, also this is going to lead to spam, why copy and paste something/content meant for another discussion in another thread.

[requester]

No, copy pasting any topic  and answer is not a good ideas it breaks the copyright law. If we have interest then topic on one place is enough. Interested people will see the topic anywhere because  they will serach for that.

[Hydrogen]

Reddit is too pro censorship for my liking.

Its too easy for someone with a few farmed accounts to downvote topics and people they dislike into censorship obscurity.

Those who take time to research and educate themselves on topics are usually a minority.

Reddit catering to a majority who are often opposite to that, makes it a giant echo chamber in a lot of ways.

Its not a good place for discussion.

[Findus]

Reddit is too pro censorship for my liking.

Its too easy for someone with a few farmed accounts to downvote topics and people they dislike into censorship obscurity.

Those who take time to research and educate themselves on topics are usually a minority.

Reddit catering to a majority who are often opposite to that, makes it a giant echo chamber in a lot of ways.

Its not a good place for discussion.

That's exactly the problem I'm trying to solve.

And I think that is an important issue, because 200 000 subscribers are probably getting their bitcoin news from reddit. Therefore we can not expect these agents to be well informed, and thus rational.