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February 28, 2017, 07:27:06 PM
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Hello, could somebody please share the hashrate for amd ryzen processor? Thanks

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February 28, 2017, 07:32:10 PM
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Im curious on this on for cryptonight.
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February 28, 2017, 08:21:25 PM
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Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)
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February 28, 2017, 08:23:59 PM
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Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)


lol.....this is biggest bulshit i ahve ever heard Cheesy
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February 28, 2017, 08:29:05 PM
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Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)


lol.....this is biggest bulshit i ahve ever heard Cheesy
okay if you are so smart (not really but...) chose  any CPU, any algorithm and calculate ROI time. You will see what actual hashrate are CPUs getting. Before you write something stupid please do some research beforehand you dumb fuck.
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February 28, 2017, 08:45:03 PM
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Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)

are you serious? do some research, it is true that cpu has lower roi but they will hit it... When zec was out the first 2 weeks were great for cpu miners + ryzen should have greater performance and consumption, I need some cpu to my rig, why not buy on which can earn me money?

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February 28, 2017, 08:58:46 PM
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Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)

are you serious? do some research, it is true that cpu has lower roi but they will hit it... When zec was out the first 2 weeks were great for cpu miners + ryzen should have greater performance and consumption, I need some cpu to my rig, why not buy on which can earn me money?
If you are right why are everyone using GPU over CPU now ? Difficulty is constantly increasing and with low CPU hashrate you will eventually be in a loss. Ryzen cannot earn you money. For that 350$ (1700) you can get almost RX 470 and for a few more bucks you can get another one. CPU mining is just a nonsense. I asked you something last time. Chose cpu and algo and please let us all know what is ROI time and then compare invested money with some GPU in same price range and then tell me CPU mining is any profitable.
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February 28, 2017, 10:20:24 PM
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Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)

are you serious? do some research, it is true that cpu has lower roi but they will hit it... When zec was out the first 2 weeks were great for cpu miners + ryzen should have greater performance and consumption, I need some cpu to my rig, why not buy on which can earn me money?
If you are right why are everyone using GPU over CPU now ? Difficulty is constantly increasing and with low CPU hashrate you will eventually be in a loss. Ryzen cannot earn you money. For that 350$ (1700) you can get almost RX 470 and for a few more bucks you can get another one. CPU mining is just a nonsense. I asked you something last time. Chose cpu and algo and please let us all know what is ROI time and then compare invested money with some GPU in same price range and then tell me CPU mining is any profitable.

Op didn't ask if it was profitable or not he asked the hashrate.

It its always possible to ROI if you have cheap electricity. Sure you cant compare a gpu with cpu but still highend cpu's can farm good specially at new coins with low diff.
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February 28, 2017, 10:34:14 PM
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Considering the Ryzen chips dont even come out for 2 more days I doubt you will find an answer right now.

Stop buying industrial miners, running them at home, and then complaining about the noise.
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February 28, 2017, 10:54:19 PM
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Considering the Ryzen chips dont even come out for 2 more days I doubt you will find an answer right now.

nah, you can already buy them at least in my country - http://imgur.com/a/lobM2

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Considering the Ryzen chips dont even come out for 2 more days I doubt you will find an answer right now.

nah, you can already buy them at least in my country - http://imgur.com/a/lobM2

Those must be preorders, or else more benchmarks would be posted besides a couple of low quality leaked screenshots and AMD sourced numbers.
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March 01, 2017, 03:25:28 AM
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If you needed a new CPU anyway, the 1700 might be good for monero. My 6800k does 350h/s, and the 1700 should do ~475 at a lower TDP.
But unless we have another Zcash situation where CPU is competitive with GPU in the beginning, it's a worse investment than a GPU. Not saying you won't ROI, but it's comparatively worse.

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Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)

are you serious? do some research, it is true that cpu has lower roi but they will hit it... When zec was out the first 2 weeks were great for cpu miners + ryzen should have greater performance and consumption, I need some cpu to my rig, why not buy on which can earn me money?
If you are right why are everyone using GPU over CPU now ? Difficulty is constantly increasing and with low CPU hashrate you will eventually be in a loss. Ryzen cannot earn you money. For that 350$ (1700) you can get almost RX 470 and for a few more bucks you can get another one. CPU mining is just a nonsense. I asked you something last time. Chose cpu and algo and please let us all know what is ROI time and then compare invested money with some GPU in same price range and then tell me CPU mining is any profitable.

first of all you did not ask him but you asked me ... second : on cryptonight the cpu has more profitability than gpu , and there are still some coin mineable only by cpu. the problem with cpu is that for each cpu u need a motherboard and so on , making them very expensive for mining , but if you consider that for each cpu u can pair 6 gpus.... then you are gonna roi pretty fast...


just fyi : at the moment 2 opteron cpus are capable of pulling 900 h/s at less than 100w in monero. such cpu combo will cost around 150 Eur (like a graphic card) problem is that you can
stack up to 4 cpus in an opteron motherboard... and 4cpus mobo are blody expensive....

so CPU WILL HIT ROI , and CPU ARE , ACTUALLY , MORE PROFITABLE THAN GPU , they will just roi slower due to the bond , usually 1 cpu - 1 motherboard.
imagine make 1 rig and for each rig use only 1 videocard.....



here is 6 , SIX, stupid examples of coins that used to bring me not only roi with a cpu but also some serious profit (from oldest to newest )

1 ) BITCOIN (in 2009 was cpu minable only)
2 ) XPM
3 ) XMR
4 ) XMG
5 ) ZCASH
6 ) PASCAL

and this just coz i aint mined zcoin ........


not to mention  that MAGI (XMG ) is still cpu only , and there are more coins cpu only.... but better not to open the eyes to ignorant.... better leave them in the darkness...
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just fyi : at the moment 2 opteron cpus are capable of pulling 900 h/s at less than 100w in monero. such cpu combo will cost around 150 Eur (like a graphic card) problem is that you can
stack up to 4 cpus in an opteron motherboard... and 4cpus mobo are blody expensive....

so CPU WILL HIT ROI , and CPU ARE , ACTUALLY , MORE PROFITABLE THAN GPU , they will just roi slower due to the bond , usually 1 cpu - 1 motherboard.
imagine make 1 rig and for each rig use only 1 videocard.....


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do you have more info about it please? is it opteron 6276? I think it can be possible to get motherboard for 2 cpu, but it will need at least 3 pcie slots for gpu... do you know what is the best combination of mobo+cpu

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Doesn't really matter. CPU mining will never be as profitable. Whatever hashrate new Ryzen processors are getting they will never hit ROI so there is no point in buying them with mining in mind, and if you want to mine from time to time there is no profit (just a few bucks)

are you serious? do some research, it is true that cpu has lower roi but they will hit it... When zec was out the first 2 weeks were great for cpu miners + ryzen should have greater performance and consumption, I need some cpu to my rig, why not buy on which can earn me money?
If you are right why are everyone using GPU over CPU now ? Difficulty is constantly increasing and with low CPU hashrate you will eventually be in a loss. Ryzen cannot earn you money. For that 350$ (1700) you can get almost RX 470 and for a few more bucks you can get another one. CPU mining is just a nonsense. I asked you something last time. Chose cpu and algo and please let us all know what is ROI time and then compare invested money with some GPU in same price range and then tell me CPU mining is any profitable.

first of all you did not ask him but you asked me ... second : on cryptonight the cpu has more profitability than gpu , and there are still some coin mineable only by cpu. the problem with cpu is that for each cpu u need a motherboard and so on , making them very expensive for mining , but if you consider that for each cpu u can pair 6 gpus.... then you are gonna roi pretty fast...


just fyi : at the moment 2 opteron cpus are capable of pulling 900 h/s at less than 100w in monero. such cpu combo will cost around 150 Eur (like a graphic card) problem is that you can
stack up to 4 cpus in an opteron motherboard... and 4cpus mobo are blody expensive....

so CPU WILL HIT ROI , and CPU ARE , ACTUALLY , MORE PROFITABLE THAN GPU , they will just roi slower due to the bond , usually 1 cpu - 1 motherboard.
imagine make 1 rig and for each rig use only 1 videocard.....



here is 6 , SIX, stupid examples of coins that used to bring me not only roi with a cpu but also some serious profit (from oldest to newest )

1 ) BITCOIN (in 2009 was cpu minable only)
2 ) XPM
3 ) XMR
4 ) XMG
5 ) ZCASH
6 ) PASCAL

and this just coz i aint mined zcoin ........


not to mention  that MAGI (XMG ) is still cpu only , and there are more coins cpu only.... but better not to open the eyes to ignorant.... better leave them in the darkness...


yup those boards do cost a long time ago i had one that took two cpu the board cost me if remember right 300 bucks and that was a few years ago they are way more now ..

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mobo - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Supermicro-H8DGi-F-Dual-Opteron-AMD-Slots-SR5690-Extended-ATX-Motherboard-/391677047878?hash=item5b31c57446:g:4tkAAOSwjDZYelPN
2x cpu - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AMD-Opteron-6276-16-Core-CPU-Processors-2-3GHz-16MB-OS6276WKTGGGU-/282358551444?hash=item41bde19394:g:8bsAAOSwCU1YoHfy
6x gpu

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yeah that will do.
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CPU's often have first dibs on new coins before good GPU miners are made. Getting early mining on a coin before it reaches top 100 is indeed profitable.
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Two E5-2667 V3 ES 8 core cpu's running Wolfs GPU XMR miner average ~1150 H/s .

[19:26:35] New job at diff 100002
[19:26:35] Thread 2, (CPU): 35.40H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 20, (CPU): 37.13H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 33, (CPU): 34.98H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 28, (CPU): 35.34H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 11, (CPU): 35.95H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 4, (CPU): 36.18H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 31, (CPU): 38.17H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 25, (CPU): 36.45H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 21, (CPU): 36.10H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 26, (CPU): 35.24H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 23, (CPU): 35.04H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 17, (CPU): 35.13H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 19, (CPU): 35.69H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 22, (CPU): 34.83H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 9, (CPU): 36.44H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 5, (CPU): 35.91H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 15, (CPU): 35.49H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 18, (CPU): 35.82H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 24, (CPU): 35.23H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 30, (CPU): 34.75H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 10, (CPU): 35.69H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 8, (CPU): 36.04H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 32, (CPU): 35.52H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 12, (CPU): 34.56H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 29, (CPU): 35.68H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 27, (CPU): 37.30H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 7, (CPU): 35.57H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 13, (CPU): 35.18H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 16, (CPU): 35.43H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 6, (CPU): 34.81H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 3, (CPU): 33.71H/s
[19:26:35] Thread 14, (CPU): 37.04H/s


Yes cpu's can be viable.

EDIT: Added this from the Serve The Home forum Monero performance post.

"CPU Results (wolf's) Using (MB L3 cache/ 2) for threads
4x Intel Xeon E7-8870 V3 = 2600H/s (NB drops to 2000 over time)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2699 V4 = 1723H/s
1x Intel Xeon Phi 7210 = 602H/s (case to use nproc-1)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V4 = 1572H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V3 = 1463H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2690 V3 = 1100H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2667 V3 = 1090H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2658 V3 = 1050H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V4 = 1047H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V4 = 1031H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2683 V3 = 1014H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2628L V4 = 897H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V3 = 874H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 = 866H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V1 = 829H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V1 = 750H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 V1 = 480H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1587 = 388H/s
1x Intel Xeon E5-2630L V3 = 334H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1541 = 242H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1515M V5 = 240H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1540 = 218H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 = 186H/s (case to use either nproc/2 or nproc-1)
1x Intel Xeon E3-1245 V5 = 161H/s
1x Special CPU = 153H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Atom C3338 = 77H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Pentium D1508 = 47H/s (case to use nproc-1)
1x Intel Atom C2358 = 18H/s (use nproc)


ARM CPU Results (thanks Fractal)
ARM Cortex A7 (Odroid-C1) 5.9H/s (no AES)
ARM Cortex A53 (Odroid-C2) 7.2 H/s (no AES)
ARM Cortex A53 (Pine64) 12.5 H/s @ 4.1W (using AES instructions, thermal limited) 3H/W

GPU Results (ccminer)
1/4x GRID M40 GPU = 220H/s
1x GRID M40 GPU = 880H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 1070 (ASUS STRIX) = 475H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (ASUS dual fan) = 431H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA ACX single fan) = 432H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 1050 Ti 4GB (PNY) = 297H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 970 (ASUS STRIX) = 375H/s
1x NVIDIA GTX 750 Ti = 205 H/s (Fractal)
1x NVIDIA GRID K520 (AWS g2.2xlarge) = 164H/s
1x NVIDIA K80 (one of two GPUs AWS p2.xlarge) = 209H/s"




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thanks for sharing it but aren't the opteron cpu better in price/hasharate

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thanks for sharing it but aren't the opteron cpu better in price/hasharate


Yea but they are power hungry.

But you can buy a new socket G34 4 cpu motherboard for under $80.00 of course you would have to deal with non standard format and non standard power connectivity and every time I thought of it I quickly talked myself out of it.

The more standard boards are more expensive to the point its not worth it.

It's worth doing if you could get a deal on a decommissioned server for cheap.

But you can purchase a dual node dual cpu open compute socket 2011 Wiwynn server new in the box for under $200.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiwynn-SV7210-Two-Node-Open-Compute-Server-Dual-LGA-2011-/391296440423

All you need to do is buy 4 cheap E5-2600 V1 cpu's and some cheap ddr 3 ram and a SSD and 240 volt power source, will run Linux and windows 7 just fine.

The only reason I have have not bought several is I moving away from socket 2011 and moving to socket 2011-3.


EDIT: Every time I look at those open compute servers I am SO tempted........I must not buy.........must not........will power must have will power.....LOL
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thanks for sharing it but aren't the opteron cpu better in price/hasharate
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiwynn-SV7210-Two-Node-Open-Compute-Server-Dual-LGA-2011-/391296440423

All you need to do is buy 4 cheap E5-2600 V1 cpu's and some cheap ddr 3 ram and a SSD and 240 volt power source, will run Linux and windows 7 just fine.

Interesting

I am curious about using this to mine XMR and switch to new alts for early dibs on the mining
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Given it hasn't even been released yet (later this week), how are we going to share hashrates?

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1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others
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1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others
My AMD FX8320E gives 320 H/S for Cryptonight with six threads while I'm able to mine other coins with my GPUs consuming 65W extra. While GPUs are much better, Ryzen may be able to close the gap. At least to an extent with Cryptonight.
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1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others

This is relevant to those who are making dedicate mining rigs

Some people may be building a new PC anyway and would like to put their CPU to work when not in use. Far as just trying to cram a mining CPU into a regular GPU mining rig we got awhile before we see any ideal AM4 based motherboards for mining rigs

XMR aside, there are rising new altcoins that are open game for CPU's. You may want to keep mentioning that CPU mining is inferior but for the rest of us who care to utilize the CPU please let us speculate and archive any hash rate reports we can find in here or whatever new thread when Ryzen is actually out. I'd really just like a clean thread of just Ryzen hashrates without this GPU vs. CPU debate cluttering the first page and beyond
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Hi Povertybyte

Sure, my intention wasn't to bash, just to report a conclusion that could help others in this sector, while considering to invest heavily, or not, in State-Of-The-Art CPUs.

With this goal surely the CPU, given it's name "Central Processing Unit", it's fundamental, but just for mining purposes unfortunately not.

I am pretty sure that the Ryzen architecture could bring benefits, but I see that the multi-threading implementation for these architectures needs a lot of phisical and logical cores, so it could be interesting surely for the server derivations with higher TDPs and raw power. From what I've seen RYZEN seems just a stop-gap measure in opposition to the Intel dominance, because of an i7 7700K has the edge on a lof of applications, due the single thread performance.

What could really move something could be the new Intel 7950x with 24 threads, potentially, not a 95W TDP RYZEN.

The main issue is the fact that when we'll have that, there will be VOLTA refresh and the successor of VEGA.
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THEYRE HERE!

someone show us benchmarks

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THEYRE HERE!

someone show us benchmarks

a friend of mine received his today but the mobo isnt there yet, if no one else chimes in till that is the case i can provide numbers for the 1700 stock and with max OC

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THEYRE HERE!

someone show us benchmarks

a friend of mine received his today but the mobo isnt there yet, if no one else chimes in till that is the case i can provide numbers for the 1700 stock and with max OC


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1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others


It's not worthless, cpu mining is complementary. Wink


 



 
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1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others
My AMD FX8320E gives 320 H/S for Cryptonight with six threads while I'm able to mine other coins with my GPUs consuming 65W extra. While GPUs are much better, Ryzen may be able to close the gap. At least to an extent with Cryptonight.

65W extra for 320H is very efficient. It is better than RX 480.
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Little bird told me Ryzen R7 1800x  1390h/s mining XMR
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From the awesome Servethehome forums
I'm guessing these numbers will improve as they get optimized miners from the devs.

CPU Results (wolf's) Using (MB L3 cache/ 2) for threads
4x Intel Xeon E7-8870 V3 = 2600H/s (NB drops to 2000 over time)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2699 V4 = 1723H/s
1x Intel Xeon Phi 7210 = 602H/s (case to use nproc-1)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V4 = 1572H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V3 = 1463H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2690 V3 = 1100H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2667 V3 = 1090H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2658 V3 = 1050H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V4 = 1047H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V4 = 1031H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2683 V3 = 1014H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2628L V4 = 897H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V3 = 874H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 = 866H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V1 = 829H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V1 = 750H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 V1 = 480H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1587 = 388H/s
1x Intel Xeon E5-2630L V3 = 334H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 273H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 250H/s (209 using nproc)
1x Intel Xeon D-1541 = 242H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1515M V5 = 240H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1540 = 218H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 = 186H/s (case to use either nproc/2 or nproc-1)
1x Intel Xeon E3-1245 V5 = 161H/s
1x Special CPU = 153H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Atom C3338 = 77H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Pentium D1508 = 47H/s (case to use nproc-1)
1x Intel Atom C2358 = 18H/s (use nproc)

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Unfortunately the reviews are stating the TDP figures are pure fiction for Ryzen.  So I wouldn't use those TDP numbers to figure efficiency. 














 

 

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From the awesome Servethehome forums
I'm guessing these numbers will improve as they get optimized miners from the devs.

CPU Results (wolf's) Using (MB L3 cache/ 2) for threads
4x Intel Xeon E7-8870 V3 = 2600H/s (NB drops to 2000 over time)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2699 V4 = 1723H/s
1x Intel Xeon Phi 7210 = 602H/s (case to use nproc-1)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V4 = 1572H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V3 = 1463H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2690 V3 = 1100H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2667 V3 = 1090H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2658 V3 = 1050H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V4 = 1047H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V4 = 1031H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2683 V3 = 1014H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2628L V4 = 897H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V3 = 874H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 = 866H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V1 = 829H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V1 = 750H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 V1 = 480H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1587 = 388H/s
1x Intel Xeon E5-2630L V3 = 334H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 273H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 250H/s (209 using nproc)
1x Intel Xeon D-1541 = 242H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1515M V5 = 240H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1540 = 218H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 = 186H/s (case to use either nproc/2 or nproc-1)
1x Intel Xeon E3-1245 V5 = 161H/s
1x Special CPU = 153H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Atom C3338 = 77H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Pentium D1508 = 47H/s (case to use nproc-1)
1x Intel Atom C2358 = 18H/s (use nproc)



Quoted from the Serve The Home forum:

"It's definitely not a perfect formula, but the cryptonight algorith requires 2MB of memory per thread to calculate hashes. Keeping it all in L3 cache or below definitely sped it up on the platforms I've tested.

For example:

Intel Xeon E3-1240 v1 went from 129 H/s to 231 H/s (going from 7 to 4 threads, respectively). L3 cache size is 8MB."

This is the most important thing with cpu mining cryptonight, with both my E5's combined I have 70 mb of L3 so 70/2 = 35 so I can run all 32 threads and get the best performance, with my older pair of E5 2670's with a total of 40mb of L3 for both it seemed to run best with ~18 threads and any more the hash rate would drop.

Also you compare my ES 2667 V3's to the retail ones in the above list my has rate is a about 50-60 H/s faster even tho mine only boost up to 3.0 Ghz and the retail version boost up to I think 3.6 Ghz. The thing to think about is that the retail 2667's have 20mb of L3 vs 35mb of L3 with my ES cpu's.
 
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Quoted from the Serve The Home forum:

"It's definitely not a perfect formula, but the cryptonight algorith requires 2MB of memory per thread to calculate hashes. Keeping it all in L3 cache or below definitely sped it up on the platforms I've tested.

For example:

Intel Xeon E3-1240 v1 went from 129 H/s to 231 H/s (going from 7 to 4 threads, respectively). L3 cache size is 8MB."

This is the most important thing with cpu mining cryptonight, with both my E5's combined I have 70 mb of L3 so 70/2 = 35 so I can run all 32 threads and get the best performance, with my older pair of E5 2670's with a total of 40mb of L3 for both it seemed to run best with ~18 threads and any more the hash rate would drop.

Also you compare my ES 2667 V3's to the retail ones in the above list my has rate is a about 50-60 H/s faster even tho mine only boost up to 3.0 Ghz and the retail version boost up to I think 3.6 Ghz. The thing to think about is that the retail 2667's have 20mb of L3 vs 35mb of L3 with my ES cpu's.
 


That explains why my own CPU does not get more hashing past a certain point. I suppose the Ryzen CPU's are fairly efficient power wise for CPU mining but it would have been nice if they could simply produce double the hash rates they got right now.

I wonder now if disabling hyperthreading can be done to actually cram all its power into 8 threads. I could probably try that with my old i7
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Quoted from the Serve The Home forum:

"It's definitely not a perfect formula, but the cryptonight algorith requires 2MB of memory per thread to calculate hashes. Keeping it all in L3 cache or below definitely sped it up on the platforms I've tested.

For example:

Intel Xeon E3-1240 v1 went from 129 H/s to 231 H/s (going from 7 to 4 threads, respectively). L3 cache size is 8MB."

This is the most important thing with cpu mining cryptonight, with both my E5's combined I have 70 mb of L3 so 70/2 = 35 so I can run all 32 threads and get the best performance, with my older pair of E5 2670's with a total of 40mb of L3 for both it seemed to run best with ~18 threads and any more the hash rate would drop.

Also you compare my ES 2667 V3's to the retail ones in the above list my has rate is a about 50-60 H/s faster even tho mine only boost up to 3.0 Ghz and the retail version boost up to I think 3.6 Ghz. The thing to think about is that the retail 2667's have 20mb of L3 vs 35mb of L3 with my ES cpu's.
 


That explains why my own CPU does not get more hashing past a certain point. I suppose the Ryzen CPU's are fairly efficient power wise for CPU mining but it would have been nice if they could simply produce double the hash rates they got right now.

I wonder now if disabling hyperthreading can be done to actually cram all its power into 8 threads. I could probably try that with my old i7

I thought about trying that with my older dual 2670 build, but that parts are back in their boxes because I wanted to put them up on ebay. 
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1x AMD R9 290 = 870 H/ TDP 300
1x AMD RX 480 = 700 H/ TDP 150
1x AMD R9 470 = 650 H/ TDP 130
1x AMD R9 280x = 600 H/ TDP 250
1x AMD R9 280 = 550 H/ TDP 250

CPU mining it's worthless, as always Wink

Better to scale up with GPUs (7/8 per system) than with CPUs (up to 2 in very costly, and power hungry, configs). If you max out CPUs you loose hashrate on the GPUs, that's why CPU mining it's ridicolous compared to GPU; if you're using a botnet then good for you, but we're not talking about legit operations, not hacking others

 Better example - NVidia 750 Ti - 250 H/s or a bit more if pushed for around 50 watts actual usage - which is the same ballpark as most CPUs are in any more, is easily a match for those Ryzen results at a bit LOWER power despite being generation-older tech and quite a bit less power usage than the high-end stuff usually used for CPU mining, as well as being quite a bit less $$$ than any of the CPUs listed in the post I didn't quote that can compete with it on hashrate.


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That explains why my own CPU does not get more hashing past a certain point. I suppose the Ryzen CPU's are fairly efficient power wise for CPU mining but it would have been nice if they could simply produce double the hash rates they got right now.

I wonder now if disabling hyperthreading can be done to actually cram all its power into 8 threads. I could probably try that with my old i7

No it won't. The algo is cache bound, it has nothing to do with compute power. Once the cache overflows performance goes
down. Optimum thread count is cache size MB / 2 MB. No CPU can mine cryptonight efficiently with max threads, hyper or not.


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From the awesome Servethehome forums
I'm guessing these numbers will improve as they get optimized miners from the devs.

CPU Results (wolf's) Using (MB L3 cache/ 2) for threads
4x Intel Xeon E7-8870 V3 = 2600H/s (NB drops to 2000 over time)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2699 V4 = 1723H/s
1x Intel Xeon Phi 7210 = 602H/s (case to use nproc-1)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V4 = 1572H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V3 = 1463H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2690 V3 = 1100H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2667 V3 = 1090H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2658 V3 = 1050H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V4 = 1047H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V4 = 1031H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2683 V3 = 1014H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2628L V4 = 897H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V3 = 874H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 = 866H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V1 = 829H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V1 = 750H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 V1 = 480H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1587 = 388H/s
1x Intel Xeon E5-2630L V3 = 334H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 273H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 250H/s (209 using nproc)
1x Intel Xeon D-1541 = 242H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1515M V5 = 240H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1540 = 218H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 = 186H/s (case to use either nproc/2 or nproc-1)
1x Intel Xeon E3-1245 V5 = 161H/s
1x Special CPU = 153H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Atom C3338 = 77H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Pentium D1508 = 47H/s (case to use nproc-1)
1x Intel Atom C2358 = 18H/s (use nproc)


Only ? i aspected more from ryzen , i think is not optimized...

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From the awesome Servethehome forums
I'm guessing these numbers will improve as they get optimized miners from the devs.

CPU Results (wolf's) Using (MB L3 cache/ 2) for threads
4x Intel Xeon E7-8870 V3 = 2600H/s (NB drops to 2000 over time)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2699 V4 = 1723H/s
1x Intel Xeon Phi 7210 = 602H/s (case to use nproc-1)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V4 = 1572H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V3 = 1463H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2690 V3 = 1100H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2667 V3 = 1090H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2658 V3 = 1050H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V4 = 1047H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V4 = 1031H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2683 V3 = 1014H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2628L V4 = 897H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V3 = 874H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 = 866H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V1 = 829H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V1 = 750H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 V1 = 480H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1587 = 388H/s
1x Intel Xeon E5-2630L V3 = 334H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 273H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 250H/s (209 using nproc)
1x Intel Xeon D-1541 = 242H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1515M V5 = 240H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1540 = 218H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 = 186H/s (case to use either nproc/2 or nproc-1)
1x Intel Xeon E3-1245 V5 = 161H/s
1x Special CPU = 153H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Atom C3338 = 77H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Pentium D1508 = 47H/s (case to use nproc-1)
1x Intel Atom C2358 = 18H/s (use nproc)


Only ? i aspected more from ryzen , i think is not optimized...

I would also expect that the numbers will get a lot better if there is optimization for this new CPU.  Just like when new coin or new GPU is launched the first miners generally run pretty poorly.














 

 

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Big update on Ryzen:

"Which was keeping the thread count too low. Updated the Ryzen 7 1800X numbers and now getting over 500H/s. "

 https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/monero-mining-performance.12116/

Read page 16 for info.

He has not retested 1700 or 1700x yet.

"CPU Results (wolf's) Using (MB L3 cache/ 2) for threads
4x Intel Xeon E7-8870 V3 = 2600H/s (NB drops to 2000 over time)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2699 V4 = 1723H/s
1x Intel Xeon Phi 7210 = 602H/s (case to use nproc-1)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V4 = 1572H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2698 V3 = 1463H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2690 V3 = 1100H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2667 V3 = 1090H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2658 V3 = 1050H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V4 = 1047H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V4 = 1031H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2683 V3 = 1014H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2680 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V3 = 969H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2628L V4 = 897H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650L V3 = 874H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2630 V4 = 866H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2670 V1 = 829H/s
2x Intel Xeon E5-2650 V1 = 750H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1800X = 537H/s (note have custom Monero Ryzen image)
2x Intel Xeon E5-2620 V1 = 480H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1587 = 388H/s
1x Intel Xeon E5-2630L V3 = 334H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 273H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 250H/s (209 using nproc)
1x Intel Xeon D-1541 = 242H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1515M V5 = 240H/s
1x Intel Xeon D-1540 = 218H/s
1x Intel Xeon E3-1220 V3 = 186H/s (case to use either nproc/2 or nproc-1)
1x Intel Xeon E3-1245 V5 = 161H/s
1x Special CPU = 153H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Atom C3338 = 77H/s (case to use nproc)
1x Intel Pentium D1508 = 47H/s (case to use nproc-1)
1x Intel Atom C2358 = 18H/s (use nproc)"

Nice increase with testing to find the sweet spot with the number of threads.

EDIT: Also to add the cpu was using 133 watts, not bad at all.  

But still behind Xeon ES's as for price/performance.

I can't wait until Naples is released.


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Now those numbers are starting to look more realistic.  Thanks for the update.  I am sure there will be quite a few lessons learned and updates since this CPU is new to the market.  I now hear rumblings coming from Intel about more cores... Gosh, so all it takes is a little competition to get some progress and better prices??? Who knew right? 

I think I will give a Ryzen CPU a shot.  It has been a long time since I owned an AMD.  I won't be buying it for mining specifically, but I will test it and see if I can multitask it when the machine isn't busy doing other things.   Grin  It will be nice to have an AMD in the house again.  Always rooting for the underdog!














 

 

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133 watt with nominal tdp 95 watt , i read ryzen have a bug in all firmware bios motherboard . Anyone know this issue ? . Ryzen is a GREAT cpu , but all motherboard product is not good at moment .

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133 watt with nominal tdp 95 watt , i read ryzen have a bug in all firmware bios motherboard . Anyone know this issue ? . Ryzen is a GREAT cpu , but all motherboard product is not good at moment .

LOL, well neither AMD or Intel have a good track record of sticking to the TDP figures.  For example look at the AMD TDP figures for the RX480 and RX470 GPU's.  Those figures are wishful thinking with the stock ROM's.  So I would venture to say the Ryzen CPU tdp figures are largely marketing at this point.  So far all the reviews I have read have shown much higher consumption rates than the published TDP.

You are right about the mobo's they are pretty iffy right now.  I heard this morning that the latest microcode was only finalized a few weeks ago so this is going to be a "work in progress" for a while.














 

 

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there are issues with (multiple) high clocked ram sticks installed, a friend of mine will try to get 3200mhz working, might have a great impact on cryptonight performance, sadly still no mobo arrived

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In review i read , ryzen 1700 clock at 4ghz is the same identical result with 1700x 4ghz and 1800x 4ghz , why in the table:

1x AMD Ryzen 7 1800x = 537H / s (nota avere su immagine Monero Ryzen)

1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 273H / s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 250h / s (209 utilizzando nproc)

Its not possible .

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In review i read , ryzen 1700 clock at 4ghz is the same identical result with 1700x 4ghz and 1800x 4ghz , why in the table:

1x AMD Ryzen 7 1800x = 537H / s (nota avere su immagine Monero Ryzen)

1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 273H / s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 250h / s (209 utilizzando nproc)

Its not possible .

Did you read the link I gave?

At first he was getting a "modest" improvement ( the first result is no longer in the list since he updated it with the new info but if I remember correctly it was ~305 H/s) over the 1700's but after he played around with the thread count in Wolfs miner he saw a large improvement so he updated the list for the 1800x, he did not update the 1700's yet.

Output of lscpu on Ryzen:
"Architecture:          x86_64
CPU op-mode(s):        32-bit, 64-bit
Byte Order:            Little Endian
CPU(s):                16
On-line CPU(s) list:   0-15
Thread(s) per core:    2
Core(s) per socket:    8
Socket(s):             1
NUMA node(s):          1
Vendor ID:             AuthenticAMD
CPU family:            23
Model:                 1
Stepping:              1
CPU MHz:               3600.000
BogoMIPS:              7180.28
Virtualization:        AMD-V
L1d cache:             32K
L1i cache:             64K
L2 cache:              512K
L3 cache:              8192K
NUMA node0 CPU(s):     0-15"

He was using the output of lscpu and it was not listing L3 cache correctly, Ryzen has TWO 8MB L3 Caches, for a total of 16 mb of L3 and he was using only 4 threads instead of 8 so the performance was crap.

Cryptonite is very sensitive with the number of threads you let it use, not enough or too many the performance is worse. The algorithm uses two mb per thread so if you give it too many cores where it's swapped to ram it slows down or if you give it less than the optimum amount it is not using all of the resources in the cache optimally so it is not running as many threads it can for best performance.

From the link:

"Added AMD Ryzen 1800X Monero mining benchmarks to the first post. Modest improvement over the 1700X. "

And:

"Uh, if you were only using 4 threads that's your problem. and why it performs at half what i expected...

Ryzen has 4 MB L2 and 16MB l3. it is 8MB L3 per cluster complex and there are 2 clusters. Not 8MB total.

You should definitely retest at 8 and 10 threads. and what the hell test some others too because you never know... "

And:

"I did not get as good of results with 10 and 16 was extremely poor."






Ryzen uses two 8 mb L3 cache's not a single 16mb, so if data is transfered from 8mb L3 to 8mb L3 it hurts performance vs a single 16 mb L3 cache.

So it looks like testing and running the optimum number of threads is critical for performance for CPU's especially Ryzen, also until things are optimized for Ryzen it could be hit or miss with the performance of mining programs.

I do know there will be improvements to the microcode and motherboard bios's also software will need some optimizations, but all that means that the performance will only get better and that is usually what happens when a new cpu is released.
 
 
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Ryzen on cynebench :



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At 500h/s that is good enough to go with a R7 1700 and a sub $120 mobo that supports 6 gpus imo. Better hashing density, slow depreciation and easy to resell mobo, socket valid for 4 years, able to CPU mine new coins like zcash when it launched. I would underclock and undervolt for better hash/watt.

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Anyone try cpuminer-opt-3.5.3-windows with zcoin on ryzen ? This is :

i7 5820k @ 4.3 ghz :



i7 7700k @ 5ghz :



And i5 6600 @ default :



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I have a couple of suggestions for testing. Cryptonight is a good test for cache performance but
doesn't stress the CPU in any way. Ryzen (16 MB cache) is equivalent to 2x i7-6700K (8 MB cache each).
Very competitive in cache performance.

Testing raw compute performance is better done with the deep algo. It makes generous use of AES,
AVX and AVX2 while not being bogged down by memory accesses. It's a good test of Ryzen's AVX/2
and hyperthreading performance.

Lyra2z330 (zoin) is a good test for a memory hard algo. It's extreme memory requirements blow away
the cache and make it irrelevent. This tests the memory interface but is also dependetn on the memory itself.
Ryzen went with a 2 channel controller so will be at a disadvantage over Intel E series 4 channel controller.

Lyra2rev2 has a good mix of compute intensive and memory intensive functions.

It's good to monitor CPU Usage while testing. As seen with cryptonight a memory or cache bottleneck means
the CPU spends a lot of time idle. The CPU needs to be able to hit 100% to show its full compute potential.




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Who is the best miner for cpu zcoin now ? .

I have ordered ryzen 1700 with asus x370 prime pro . I dont know when arrived , i think 15 march .

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well i believe any cpu even a few older cpus can excel on any one task.. (microsoft directx 12 code actually made the an older 2010 AMD K10 based processors increased its mathematical output in most cases up to 200% in multi-core) ..in par for todays uses in cpu mining.. for Amd , their last great and best cpu im own opinion was the K10 series..  as long the mining program uses optimized SSE2 , SSE3 compilers for AMD64 code can make any AMD or even a Intel chip fly fast.. I wouldnt use cryptonight as my only method on evaluating performance. if the difficulty is to high, even a brand new cpu like the AMD ryzen or a I7 will flop...  seriously. cpuming is only good for low difficulty scaling and if any one remember the last time you cpu mined bitcoins .. almost all cpu mining failed and even with the best cpu of the day because the difficult level surpassed cpu computations so it wasnt a slow death.. like almost over night all bitcoin mining on a cpu level was dead!!        
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Ryzen 8 core at 4ghz can get 800 KH/s on ZCoin

Assuming your R7 1700 is not a silicon lotto failure and can OC to 4 ghz it could pretty much ROI at the same speed as a GTX 1070. Far as efficiency a 1070 is more efficient largely because the ZCoin GPU miners do not pull much power from the cards

The ZCoin algo is going to hardfork again in 2-3 months so I wouldn't specifically get Ryzen just for ZCoin
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Ryzen 8 core at 4ghz can get 800 KH/s on ZCoin

Assuming your R7 1700 is not a silicon lotto failure and can OC to 4 ghz it could pretty much ROI at the same speed as a GTX 1070. Far as efficiency a 1070 is more efficient largely because the ZCoin GPU miners do not pull much power from the cards

The ZCoin algo is going to hardfork again in 2-3 months so I wouldn't specifically get Ryzen just for ZCoin

wow nice speed btw Smiley
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Monero performance update from Serve The Home:

"1x AMD Ryzen 7 1800X = 537H/s 
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 516H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 481H/s"


https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/monero-mining-performance.12116/
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Monero performance update from Serve The Home:

"1x AMD Ryzen 7 1800X = 537H/s 
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 516H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 481H/s"


https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/monero-mining-performance.12116/

This performance is a stock . Ryzen easy go 4 ghz at air .

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Any news for performance with ryzen ? .

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Monero performance update from Serve The Home:

"1x AMD Ryzen 7 1800X = 537H/s 
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700X = 516H/s
1x AMD Ryzen 7 1700 = 481H/s"


https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/monero-mining-performance.12116/

This performance is a stock . Ryzen easy go 4 ghz at air .

Usually

A silicon loser 1700 will fail at 4ghz
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See this video :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEqRK_Ora9M

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Did anyone actually start mining with ryzen? Whats the hashrates on monero or zcash?
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Did anyone actually start mining with ryzen? Whats the hashrates on monero or zcash?

I want same news .

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Did anyone actually start mining with ryzen? Whats the hashrates on monero or zcash?


Did anyone actually start mining with ryzen? Whats the hashrates on monero or zcash?

I want same news .


Did you two even read any of the posts above? Roll Eyes
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We did test the 1700X: https://www.nicehash.com/?p=news&id=148

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I got a bit moar of dem hashes out of a 1700X:

595 H/s @ 3.7GHz @ 1.2V:

http://i.imgur.com/TSzkeM2.png

650 H/s @ 4.0 GHz @ 1.42V:

http://i.imgur.com/DZnFMdu.png

Affinity in the config.txt set to even numbers of threads (0,2,4,6,8,10,12,14) and nothing else can be running in the background or the hashrate takes a big hit.
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https://www.servethehome.com/monero-mining-benchmarks-cpu-mining-amd-ryzen-7-systems/
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I just ran the benchmark in the Nicehash miner and came up with 435.9 H/s - This is with a 1700X @ 4.0 Ghz and 2933Mhz DDR4. I did have some things running in the background, so that may have influenced it.

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So I want to know, what the best configuration for ryzen in terms of watts? and what the best currency for this cpu and how miner.

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I just ran the benchmark in the Nicehash miner and came up with 435.9 H/s - This is with a 1700X @ 4.0 Ghz and 2933Mhz DDR4. I did have some things running in the background, so that may have influenced it.

Since you are one of the lucky ones that has a Ryzen yet, can you do done tests more?
Maybe try some other miners and report frequencies.I hope that some other miners will outperform nice hash
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Review a little too spartan. you can not deal with all the algorithms comparing them with Intel i7 7700k? .

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I just ran the benchmark in the Nicehash miner and came up with 435.9 H/s - This is with a 1700X @ 4.0 Ghz and 2933Mhz DDR4. I did have some things running in the background, so that may have influenced it.

Since you are one of the lucky ones that has a Ryzen yet, can you do done tests more?
Maybe try some other miners and report frequencies.I hope that some other miners will outperform nice hash

I installed and ran the latest MinerGate software, the results are below. Compared to the results from Nicehash it would appear that MinerGate isn't utilizing Ryzen very well. The one exception being AEON with a MUCH higher hashrate, but it crashed the PC within 30 seconds.

All with 15 Cores (16 cores made no difference other than making the system laggy)

AEON - ~560 H/s - Not Stable, crashes computer.
BCN - ~160 H/s
DSH - ~160 H/s
ETC - ~887 kH/s
ETH - ~887 kH/s
FCN - ~160 H/s
INF8 - ~160 H/s
MCN - ~160 H/s
QCN - ~160 H/s
XDN - ~160 H/s
XMR - ~160 H/s

XMR with 15 cores - ~160 H/s @ 63 watts
XMR with only 8 Cores - ~340 H/s @ 65 watts   
XMR with only 4 Cores - ~195 H/s @ 46 watts

Clearly something if off with the number of cores/threads not being used properly. The XMR results at 8 Cores, 340 H/s @ only 65 watts isn't too bad. With more optimized miners I could see the cheaper R5 series being an option to at least consider for mining down the road when motherboards are more available etc....

This was with a R7 1700X 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35 volts

If you have a different CPU miner that you would like me to test let me know and I might be able to benchmark it. Smiley

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Can you do some testing with cpuminer-opt? The following algos are suggested:

Cryptonight: cache bound, threads = L3 cache MB / 2 MB, so 8 threads on 1700x. Already understood,
excellent performer.

Deep: compute bound and heavilly optimized for AES and AVX2, Comparing performance with Intel on
a thread and clock basis will give an indication of how well AVX2 was implemented. Should be able to
load all threads.

Lyra2z330: I/O bound, large array too big for cache. With only a 2 channel memory controller it likely won't
compete with Intel E series. Performance will likely peak with fewer than N threads.

It would also be good to confirm thread order. On Intel default affininity assigns one thread to each physical core before
using HT. Someone suggested Ryzen assigns threads diffferently when threads less than number of virtual cores.


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thanks for sharing it but aren't the opteron cpu better in price/hasharate


Yea but they are power hungry.

But you can buy a new socket G34 4 cpu motherboard for under $80.00 of course you would have to deal with non standard format and non standard power connectivity and every time I thought of it I quickly talked myself out of it.

The more standard boards are more expensive to the point its not worth it.

It's worth doing if you could get a deal on a decommissioned server for cheap.

But you can purchase a dual node dual cpu open compute socket 2011 Wiwynn server new in the box for under $200.00

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wiwynn-SV7210-Two-Node-Open-Compute-Server-Dual-LGA-2011-/391296440423

All you need to do is buy 4 cheap E5-2600 V1 cpu's and some cheap ddr 3 ram and a SSD and 240 volt power source, will run Linux and windows 7 just fine.

The only reason I have have not bought several is I moving away from socket 2011 and moving to socket 2011-3.


EDIT: Every time I look at those open compute servers I am SO tempted........I must not buy.........must not........will power must have will power.....LOL



so is this still the best kinda options compared to using ryzen to mine with then?
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what cpu's would you all recommend with the 2011v1 board. taking into consideration power draw, mb, core count
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So what is the best currency to ryzen now? and with what miner. thanks for those who want to explain.

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Can you do some testing with cpuminer-opt? The following algos are suggested:

Cryptonight: cache bound, threads = L3 cache MB / 2 MB, so 8 threads on 1700x. Already understood,
excellent performer.

Deep: compute bound and heavilly optimized for AES and AVX2, Comparing performance with Intel on
a thread and clock basis will give an indication of how well AVX2 was implemented. Should be able to
load all threads.

Lyra2z330: I/O bound, large array too big for cache. With only a 2 channel memory controller it likely won't
compete with Intel E series. Performance will likely peak with fewer than N threads.

It would also be good to confirm thread order. On Intel default affininity assigns one thread to each physical core before
using HT. Someone suggested Ryzen assigns threads diffferently when threads less than number of virtual cores.



I'm not sure if I understood everything you posted, but I will try to test some of those options when I have some extra time. I haven't even tried any CPU mining since the early days of Bitcoin, so I'm not at all up to date on it. Wink

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So what is the best currency to ryzen now? and with what miner. thanks for those who want to explain.

Probably Monero (XMR), at least that is what I would probably do if I was looking to CPU mine regularly.

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I just ran the benchmark in the Nicehash miner and came up with 435.9 H/s - This is with a 1700X @ 4.0 Ghz and 2933Mhz DDR4. I did have some things running in the background, so that may have influenced it.

Since you are one of the lucky ones that has a Ryzen yet, can you do done tests more?
Maybe try some other miners and report frequencies.I hope that some other miners will outperform nice hash

I installed and ran the latest MinerGate software, the results are below. Compared to the results from Nicehash it would appear that MinerGate isn't utilizing Ryzen very well. The one exception being AEON with a MUCH higher hashrate, but it crashed the PC within 30 seconds.

All with 15 Cores (16 cores made no difference other than making the system laggy)

AEON - ~560 H/s - Not Stable, crashes computer.
BCN - ~160 H/s
DSH - ~160 H/s
ETC - ~887 kH/s
ETH - ~887 kH/s
FCN - ~160 H/s
INF8 - ~160 H/s
MCN - ~160 H/s
QCN - ~160 H/s
XDN - ~160 H/s
XMR - ~160 H/s

XMR with 15 cores - ~160 H/s @ 63 watts
XMR with only 8 Cores - ~340 H/s @ 65 watts   
XMR with only 4 Cores - ~195 H/s @ 46 watts

Clearly something if off with the number of cores/threads not being used properly. The XMR results at 8 Cores, 340 H/s @ only 65 watts isn't too bad. With more optimized miners I could see the cheaper R5 series being an option to at least consider for mining down the road when motherboards are more available etc....

This was with a R7 1700X 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35 volts

If you have a different CPU miner that you would like me to test let me know and I might be able to benchmark it. Smiley

 You DO realise that the R7 1700X is a *8 core* CPU, not a 16 core?

 Threads via hyperthreading are NOT additional cores, they are more about being able to split usage on a core to be able to do 2 low-utilization things at once on a core.


 A lot of software is MISidentifying the Ryzen 1700/1700X/1800X as 16 CORE cpus, because they mark the first time AMD has put Hyperthreading into a CPU.


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I just ran the benchmark in the Nicehash miner and came up with 435.9 H/s - This is with a 1700X @ 4.0 Ghz and 2933Mhz DDR4. I did have some things running in the background, so that may have influenced it.

Since you are one of the lucky ones that has a Ryzen yet, can you do done tests more?
Maybe try some other miners and report frequencies.I hope that some other miners will outperform nice hash

I installed and ran the latest MinerGate software, the results are below. Compared to the results from Nicehash it would appear that MinerGate isn't utilizing Ryzen very well. The one exception being AEON with a MUCH higher hashrate, but it crashed the PC within 30 seconds.

All with 15 Cores (16 cores made no difference other than making the system laggy)

AEON - ~560 H/s - Not Stable, crashes computer.
BCN - ~160 H/s
DSH - ~160 H/s
ETC - ~887 kH/s
ETH - ~887 kH/s
FCN - ~160 H/s
INF8 - ~160 H/s
MCN - ~160 H/s
QCN - ~160 H/s
XDN - ~160 H/s
XMR - ~160 H/s

XMR with 15 cores - ~160 H/s @ 63 watts
XMR with only 8 Cores - ~340 H/s @ 65 watts   
XMR with only 4 Cores - ~195 H/s @ 46 watts

Clearly something if off with the number of cores/threads not being used properly. The XMR results at 8 Cores, 340 H/s @ only 65 watts isn't too bad. With more optimized miners I could see the cheaper R5 series being an option to at least consider for mining down the road when motherboards are more available etc....

This was with a R7 1700X 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35 volts

If you have a different CPU miner that you would like me to test let me know and I might be able to benchmark it. Smiley

 You DO realise that the R7 1700X is a *8 core* CPU, not a 16 core?

 Threads via hyperthreading are NOT additional cores, they are more about being able to split usage on a core to be able to do 2 low-utilization things at once on a core.


 A lot of software is MISidentifying the Ryzen 1700/1700X/1800X as 16 CORE cpus, because they mark the first time AMD has put Hyperthreading into a CPU.



Of course I know it's an 8 core 16 thread cpu. I was using the specific terminology in the program so that others can observe, compare, and replicate it if they have a R7 CPU themselves.

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what cpu's would you all recommend with the 2011v1 board. taking into consideration power draw, mb, core count


I have a single E5 2695 V2 mining monero on a dual 2011 board, its been running for a week and a half with zero issues so I have not needed to shut it down to plug it into my kill-a-watt meter.

It does run cooler than the 2670 v1's I sold.

I won a bid on ebay for one and was outbid on the second one so thats why i'm running just one.
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I just ran the benchmark in the Nicehash miner and came up with 435.9 H/s - This is with a 1700X @ 4.0 Ghz and 2933Mhz DDR4. I did have some things running in the background, so that may have influenced it.

Since you are one of the lucky ones that has a Ryzen yet, can you do done tests more?
Maybe try some other miners and report frequencies.I hope that some other miners will outperform nice hash

I installed and ran the latest MinerGate software, the results are below. Compared to the results from Nicehash it would appear that MinerGate isn't utilizing Ryzen very well. The one exception being AEON with a MUCH higher hashrate, but it crashed the PC within 30 seconds.

All with 15 Cores (16 cores made no difference other than making the system laggy)

AEON - ~560 H/s - Not Stable, crashes computer.
BCN - ~160 H/s
DSH - ~160 H/s
ETC - ~887 kH/s
ETH - ~887 kH/s
FCN - ~160 H/s
INF8 - ~160 H/s
MCN - ~160 H/s
QCN - ~160 H/s
XDN - ~160 H/s
XMR - ~160 H/s

XMR with 15 cores - ~160 H/s @ 63 watts
XMR with only 8 Cores - ~340 H/s @ 65 watts   
XMR with only 4 Cores - ~195 H/s @ 46 watts

Clearly something if off with the number of cores/threads not being used properly. The XMR results at 8 Cores, 340 H/s @ only 65 watts isn't too bad. With more optimized miners I could see the cheaper R5 series being an option to at least consider for mining down the road when motherboards are more available etc....

This was with a R7 1700X 4.0 Ghz @ 1.35 volts

If you have a different CPU miner that you would like me to test let me know and I might be able to benchmark it. Smiley

 You DO realise that the R7 1700X is a *8 core* CPU, not a 16 core?

 Threads via hyperthreading are NOT additional cores, they are more about being able to split usage on a core to be able to do 2 low-utilization things at once on a core.


 A lot of software is MISidentifying the Ryzen 1700/1700X/1800X as 16 CORE cpus, because they mark the first time AMD has put Hyperthreading into a CPU.



Of course I know it's an 8 core 16 thread cpu. I was using the specific terminology in the program so that others can observe, compare, and replicate it if they have a R7 CPU themselves.

Plus the Ryzen 8 cores use two 8 mb L3 cache's and if data is swapped from one L3 to the other it slows things down quite a bit, so I appreciate the info because AMD has a tendency to run unusual cache architecture on some of their cpu's and the more test data that is out the better.

Example on my FX 8320 mining monero:

AMD FX 8320 at 4.4 GHz VERY unusual results! LOL

Running XMR-STAK-CPU: only max listed, after a few minutes it would settle on a slightly lower hash rate.
8 threads= 305 H/s
7 threads= 435 H/s
6 threads= 329 H/s
5 threads= 324 H/s
4 threads= 219 H/s
3 threads= 217 H/s
2 threads= 111 H/s
1 thread = 107 H/s

The 8 core FX cpu's have a 8MB L3 cache AND each module pair has 2MB of L2 cache so the cpu has a total of 16 MB of cache.

So you would think that 8 threads would be ideal for monero, its not because of the cpu module's and 4 threads are not the fastest but they are the only down a little from the max seen with 7 threads and run much cooler and use a bit less wattage.

So look at the results above, 1 thread is 107 H/s and then 2 threads only hash 4 H/s more, then a BIG jump in the hash rate running 3 threads, then another tiny jump running 4 and on and on until 7 threads.

So running 1 thread per module on a FX cpu is the most efficient thing to do.

Running XMR-STAK-CPU on only 1 thread per module and there still is unusual results.

EDIT: I just remembered that I had lowered the speed to 4.0 GH/z before I did the testing below so at 4.4 GH/z it would hash higher.

If I set the affinity to even numbered threads 0,2,4,6 it hashes at ~339 H/s.

If I change it to use threads 1,3,5,7 it hashes at ~385 H/s.

So testing and sharing data can help everyone even tho it may not interest everyone.

I don't know if anybody else are mining monero on a fx cpu but if they are what I have found will help them.

EDIT: My theory on why FX cpu's mining monero is fastest using one thread per module is because of that 2mb L2 cache per module is that cryptonyte is running in L1 and L2 and if you run more than one thread per module the two threads are forced to share the single L2 and then have to swap to L3 therefore there is almost no speed improvement.
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Best algo for amd ryzen 8 core now ? .

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Ryzen new faster cpu is coming.
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Thought I'd contribute my experience mining with an 1600X:

Using xmr-stak-cpu mining Monero I get on average just over 400 H/s running 6 threads.

My 1600X is downclocked to 3.5 GHz @ 1.087 V (SVI2 TFN). CPU+SoC power draw reported as 64 W (SVI2 TFN).

Although I can get above 430 H/s overclocking to 3.9 GHz, it is not worth the extra power draw. 3.3 to 3.5 GHz is the most efficient for Ryzen chips.

Personally I am very impressed and happy with the results.
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Seriously? That type of hashrate will yield less than $1/day with electricity factored in.

Really no point imo...


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Even at 400 hash you get a CPU that pays for itself within 6 months at current prices. Since you need a CPU to mine with your GPUs anyways why not get one that pays for itself, brings in a little profit after that and also has good resale value?

For those that have an 8 core Ryzen and have not been able to reach 600+ hashrate on XMR, you will need to enable large page files (requires Windows Pro). Once I did that I went from ~450-470 to 600-630 hashrate on my R7 1700X @ 4.0 ghz.  It's a nice boost in AEON too (the most profitable CPU coin right now).

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June 06, 2017, 03:54:01 PM
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My friend just got a Ryzen 1700 and haven't played with overclocking yet (using stock cooler, too).  I sent him a script and cpuminer-opt (forgot version - at least 3.6.x) and he was getting 161 kH/s for m7m and 145 kh/s with xevan.

For context, I have a 4770k OC'd to 4.3 GHz and get 108 kH/s m7m and 87 kh/s xevan.  It's an average of 63.5% faster than my CPU, and he didn't even OC.

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Just got one if my own.  OC'd to 3.7 GHz and getting 206 kh/s with m7m

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Even at 400 hash you get a CPU that pays for itself within 6 months at current prices. Since you need a CPU to mine with your GPUs anyways why not get one that pays for itself, brings in a little profit after that and also has good resale value?

For those that have an 8 core Ryzen and have not been able to reach 600+ hashrate on XMR, you will need to enable large page files (requires Windows Pro). Once I did that I went from ~450-470 to 600-630 hashrate on my R7 1700X @ 4.0 ghz.  It's a nice boost in AEON too (the most profitable CPU coin right now).

Hi man, Are you talking about  Virtual Memory? if not, how i enable large page files?
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Even at 400 hash you get a CPU that pays for itself within 6 months at current prices. Since you need a CPU to mine with your GPUs anyways why not get one that pays for itself, brings in a little profit after that and also has good resale value?

For those that have an 8 core Ryzen and have not been able to reach 600+ hashrate on XMR, you will need to enable large page files (requires Windows Pro). Once I did that I went from ~450-470 to 600-630 hashrate on my R7 1700X @ 4.0 ghz.  It's a nice boost in AEON too (the most profitable CPU coin right now).

Hi man, Are you talking about  Virtual Memory? if not, how i enable large page files?

Basically you are telling windows that it can use larger pages amounts of physical memory instead of virtual memory, at least that's my understanding of it. You need to assign "lock pages" privileges to the user account that will be mining. Follow the steps here and it should work --- https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms190730(v=sql.105).aspx --- you may need to reboot afterwards and when you start the miner you will need to right click and run as administrator for the changes to take effect.

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June 22, 2017, 03:00:14 AM
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I 'm thinking to buy new threadripper ryzen 16-core version with 32 threads for mining,
also I need new PC for personal use.
I watch lot of videos about new ryzen processors, seem they don't spend much energy especially this one I'm talking about.
Looking to mine alt coin with X11 chained hashing algorithm.
Can somebody tell me how profitable it is? Some estimates of profit?

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June 22, 2017, 09:41:01 AM
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I 'm thinking to buy new threadripper ryzen 16-core version with 32 threads for mining,
also I need new PC for personal use.
I watch lot of videos about new ryzen processors, seem they don't spend much energy especially this one I'm talking about.
Looking to mine alt coin with X11 chained hashing algorithm.
Can somebody tell me how profitable it is? Some estimates of profit?

X11 is mineable with ASIC. So it is not profitable to mine with CPU.
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I would love to try mining with a nice new Threadripper CPU, but not all algorithms support more then 8 threads, so it might not be much better for those. In instances where more threads are supported I suspect it will be amazing. If it didn't require a new motherboard I'd consider upgrading my personal PC for one. Smiley

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Requires a new motherboard, socket is different Angry

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June 23, 2017, 03:14:57 AM
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Pretty impressive CPU for mining. In addition to everything in the R7 it also has 4 channel memory.
I also like that the L3 cache scales with the number of cores. The 16 core Threadripper should perform
about double the 8 core R7 at the same clock speed. It'll be interesting to see how the price compares.

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I'd like to build a Threadripper + 8 GPUs rig, hahaha...
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Any one can point me the direction to mine with one rig using both cpu and gpu? I cannot find any useful information...TIA
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I have a Ryzen 5 1600 that gives ~400H/s,  default settings and fastest official supported memory for the AM4 socket.
I run 6 threads
enabled large page files
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Just ordered my 1500x, has anyone tried it already? Would be grateful for any information Smiley
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Just ordered my 1500x, has anyone tried it already? Would be grateful for any information Smiley
I'd like to know if you get any benefit from running  more than 4 threads on that processor since it should have crosstalk between the CCX's.  The Ryzen 5  1400 would also be nice to look at for a mining rig cpu but it would only be able to run 4 threads because of it's L3 cache and in theory it doesn't have the CCX latency issue, which could help with less expensive RAM as well.
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Just ordered my 1500x, has anyone tried it already? Would be grateful for any information Smiley
I'd like to know if you get any benefit from running  more than 4 threads on that processor since it should have crosstalk between the CCX's.  The Ryzen 5  1400 would also be nice to look at for a mining rig cpu but it would only be able to run 4 threads because of it's L3 cache and in theory it doesn't have the CCX latency issue, which could help with less expensive RAM as well.

That specific thread limitation only applies to cryptonight due to it's specific memory use. Other algos have different
characteristics and limitations.

The modular cache is not an issue for mining because miner threads are pinned to a core. There are only problems if a thread
moves to another core on a different CCX. When this happens there is a double hit because the data on the "from" CCX cache
has to be flushed to memory and then loaded into the "to" CCX cache.

There is a more subtle effect of modular L3 cache affecting shared data. If the same data is accessed from multiple threads
on different CCXs that data needs to be loaded from memory into the cahes of multiple CCXs increasing the memory load.
A thread can't benefit from data cached by another thread. If the data is modified it creates even more memory load as the
modified data needs to be immediately written to memory and all other CCXs that access that data need to reload it.

Anyone get SHA working?

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Just ordered my 1500x, has anyone tried it already? Would be grateful for any information Smiley
I'd like to know if you get any benefit from running  more than 4 threads on that processor since it should have crosstalk between the CCX's.  The Ryzen 5  1400 would also be nice to look at for a mining rig cpu but it would only be able to run 4 threads because of it's L3 cache and in theory it doesn't have the CCX latency issue, which could help with less expensive RAM as well.

That specific thread limitation only applies to cryptonight due to it's specific memory use. Other algos have different
characteristics and limitations.


With the 16 core 32 thread "Threadripper" CPU coming out fairly soon from AMD, would you be able to list any algorithms that can support that many threads? I'm debating whether or not to get one and if I could find a cooler to handle it I might just have it mine abit to pay for itself if I do nite the bullet and buy one.

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With the 16 core 32 thread "Threadripper" CPU coming out fairly soon from AMD, would you be able to list any algorithms that can support that many threads? I'm debating whether or not to get one and if I could find a cooler to handle it I might just have it mine abit to pay for itself if I do nite the bullet and buy one.

That requires compute intensive algos and most compute intensive algos are dominated by GPUs or ASICs. What's good
for CPU is even better for GPU. Conversely what's bad for CPU is worse for GPU. The only compute intensive algo I can think of
with no GPU miner yet available (that could change at any time) is xevan.

It's memory performance where CPUs have an edge over GPUs so don't get hung up trying to load all the cores on the CPU.

I usually don't give direct advice but I would buy the CPU with the highest cache/core ratio. If the 10, 12 core versions have the
same cache as the 16 core version (32 MB IIRC) you can save some money by getting fewer cores, as long as there are enough cores to
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Even at 400 hash you get a CPU that pays for itself within 6 months at current prices. Since you need a CPU to mine with your GPUs anyways why not get one that pays for itself, brings in a little profit after that and also has good resale value?

For those that have an 8 core Ryzen and have not been able to reach 600+ hashrate on XMR, you will need to enable large page files (requires Windows Pro). Once I did that I went from ~450-470 to 600-630 hashrate on my R7 1700X @ 4.0 ghz.  It's a nice boost in AEON too (the most profitable CPU coin right now).

Could you kindly point me the direction to mine with one rig using both cpu and gpu? I cannot find any useful information...TIA
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Even at 400 hash you get a CPU that pays for itself within 6 months at current prices. Since you need a CPU to mine with your GPUs anyways why not get one that pays for itself, brings in a little profit after that and also has good resale value?

For those that have an 8 core Ryzen and have not been able to reach 600+ hashrate on XMR, you will need to enable large page files (requires Windows Pro). Once I did that I went from ~450-470 to 600-630 hashrate on my R7 1700X @ 4.0 ghz.  It's a nice boost in AEON too (the most profitable CPU coin right now).

Could you kindly point me the direction to mine with one rig using both cpu and gpu? I cannot find any useful information...TIA

To both CPU mine and GPU mine you just need to run both a CPU miner program and a GPU miner program at the same time. Unless you have a fairly powerful CPU it may not be profitable to mine with it, but it's technically possible to do so with any semi modern CPU.

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Just ordered my 1500x, has anyone tried it already? Would be grateful for any information Smiley
I'd like to know if you get any benefit from running  more than 4 threads on that processor since it should have crosstalk between the CCX's.  The Ryzen 5  1400 would also be nice to look at for a mining rig cpu but it would only be able to run 4 threads because of it's L3 cache and in theory it doesn't have the CCX latency issue, which could help with less expensive RAM as well.

Just tested aeon on the 1400...does about 700 h/s so not bad (8 threads). I cant enable large page size on the home version of windows 10 im running though.

EDIT: figured out paging...now doing about 800 h/s on 6 threads

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My FX 8230e does about 320h/s with six threads for Monero which is about 40% of what an RX480 can do on average. If you mine Monero with GPUs, you can also mine with the CPU as it's going to be sitting idle anyways.
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Does anyone know what SHA versions the Ryzen family supports?
This is just curiosity on my part I'm just interested in PacalCoin and PascalLite which is SHA-265
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Does anyone know what SHA versions the Ryzen family supports?
This is just curiosity on my part I'm just interested in PacalCoin and PascalLite which is SHA-265

SHA256, needs openssl 1.1 and compiler support, ie gcc 5.

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Hi, what hashrate is on Ryzen R5 1600X?

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Hi, what hashrate is on Ryzen R5 1600X?

You should be able to get ~450 hashrate on Monero with locked pages enabled (on Windows 10 Pro at least). We have several R5 1600s and they get 400-450 hashrate at stock settings. A 1600X is clocked a little higher I believe so it should get a few more hashes at it's stock settings.

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September 21, 2017, 01:29:11 AM
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Just ordered my 1500x, has anyone tried it already? Would be grateful for any information Smiley
I'd like to know if you get any benefit from running  more than 4 threads on that processor since it should have crosstalk between the CCX's.  The Ryzen 5  1400 would also be nice to look at for a mining rig cpu but it would only be able to run 4 threads because of it's L3 cache and in theory it doesn't have the CCX latency issue, which could help with less expensive RAM as well.

Just tested aeon on the 1400...does about 700 h/s so not bad (8 threads). I cant enable large page size on the home version of windows 10 im running though.

EDIT: figured out paging...now doing about 800 h/s on 6 threads

It is really awesome performance to run at 800h/s, I just checked with whattomine and you can get $1.45 per day on monero, not a bad profit. And yet, 1400 is not expensive though.

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Just ordered my 1500x, has anyone tried it already? Would be grateful for any information Smiley
I'd like to know if you get any benefit from running  more than 4 threads on that processor since it should have crosstalk between the CCX's.  The Ryzen 5  1400 would also be nice to look at for a mining rig cpu but it would only be able to run 4 threads because of it's L3 cache and in theory it doesn't have the CCX latency issue, which could help with less expensive RAM as well.

Just tested aeon on the 1400...does about 700 h/s so not bad (8 threads). I cant enable large page size on the home version of windows 10 im running though.

EDIT: figured out paging...now doing about 800 h/s on 6 threads

It is really awesome performance to run at 800h/s, I just checked with whattomine and you can get $1.45 per day on monero, not a bad profit. And yet, 1400 is not expensive though.

You're confusing AEON and Monero, which use 2 different algorithms. 800 H/s in AEON is not going to be the same on Monero. For example, we have several R5 1600 CPUs. At stock settings they do ~1400 in AEON (Cryptonight Lite algorithm) and ~430 on Monero (Cryptonight algorithm).

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Hi, what hashrate is on Ryzen R5 1600X?

I have one running at 3.9 G and get 480 h/s mining XMR.
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I have Ryzens in my rigs - built especially with monero in mind and my results are following (large pages enabled in Win 10):
Ryzen 5 1600X (3,8 Ghz at 1.23V) - stable 540 - 550 Hash/s - consumes ca 44W from wall
Ryzen 7 1700 (3,8 Ghz at 1.23V) - stable 630 Hash /s - consumes ca 44W from wall
I believe that I can get near 4 Ghz - but this setup is 24/7 rock solid and doesnt lead to unnecessary restarts of the system. Wattage was measured as a difference between idle system and CPU-only mining turned ON.
Ill build new rig with Ryzen 5 1600 this weekend - but I guess the results will be same as for 1600X - cause L3 cache and number of cores are identical.


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Will overclocked 1600 give the same hashrate as 1600x?

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I have Ryzens in my rigs - built especially with monero in mind and my results are following (large pages enabled in Win 10):
Ryzen 5 1600X (3,8 Ghz at 1.23V) - stable 540 - 550 Hash/s - consumes ca 44W from wall
Ryzen 7 1700 (3,8 Ghz at 1.23V) - stable 630 Hash /s - consumes ca 44W from wall
I believe that I can get near 4 Ghz - but this setup is 24/7 rock solid and doesnt lead to unnecessary restarts of the system. Wattage was measured as a difference between idle system and CPU-only mining turned ON.
Ill build new rig with Ryzen 5 1600 this weekend - but I guess the results will be same as for 1600X - cause L3 cache and number of cores are identical.


Just did quick math on ryzen 1600 build,at current monero price roi is about 450 days with cpu mobo and ddr4 wich doesnt seems so bad considering that xmr is having 1/3 price pull back



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September 21, 2017, 06:53:04 PM
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I have Ryzens in my rigs - built especially with monero in mind and my results are following (large pages enabled in Win 10):
Ryzen 5 1600X (3,8 Ghz at 1.23V) - stable 540 - 550 Hash/s - consumes ca 44W from wall
Ryzen 7 1700 (3,8 Ghz at 1.23V) - stable 630 Hash /s - consumes ca 44W from wall
I believe that I can get near 4 Ghz - but this setup is 24/7 rock solid and doesnt lead to unnecessary restarts of the system. Wattage was measured as a difference between idle system and CPU-only mining turned ON.
Ill build new rig with Ryzen 5 1600 this weekend - but I guess the results will be same as for 1600X - cause L3 cache and number of cores are identical.



Thanks for the info I am pretty interested in seeing what the Ryzen 5 1600 does if you don't mind sharing!

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I have Ryzens in my rigs - built especially with monero in mind and my results are following (large pages enabled in Win 10):
Ryzen 5 1600X (3,8 Ghz at 1.23V) - stable 540 - 550 Hash/s - consumes ca 44W from wall
Ryzen 7 1700 (3,8 Ghz at 1.23V) - stable 630 Hash /s - consumes ca 44W from wall
I believe that I can get near 4 Ghz - but this setup is 24/7 rock solid and doesnt lead to unnecessary restarts of the system. Wattage was measured as a difference between idle system and CPU-only mining turned ON.
Ill build new rig with Ryzen 5 1600 this weekend - but I guess the results will be same as for 1600X - cause L3 cache and number of cores are identical.



Thanks for the info I am pretty interested in seeing what the Ryzen 5 1600 does if you don't mind sharing!

We have 5 of them and they do ~430 (max of about 460 on one, lowest about 420) on Monero at stock settings. The motherboards they are in don't seem to support much in the way of overclocking so we left them at stock settings. On a gaming oriented motherboard they should overclock up close to 4.0 ghz for a decent boost in hashrate with a little more power consumption.

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September 25, 2017, 05:13:04 AM
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Hi all,

I was hoping one of you could help me troubleshoot my r5 1600, as you all seem to be getting 400 H/s stock. Meanwhile, here's how my CPU's been performing:

1 thread: 60 H/s (max values)
2 threads: 110 H/s
3 threads: 160 H/s
4 threads: 240 H/s
5 threads: 180 H/s
6 threads: 140 H/s
7 threads: 100 H/s

I can't understand why my chip's hashrate is peaking at 4 threads when you all are reporting optimal rates at 6 threads.

I've gone through all the necessary steps (locked paging file), and I'm really stuck here.

Claymore's miner yields similar results, although I have only tried with 3 and 4 threads.

The only thing I can think of is that stak's miner could have been updated since the pre-compiled version that I downloaded, although I doubt that's the cause for this behavior.

Any suggestions? I'd really appreciate it!
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Hi all,

I was hoping one of you could help me troubleshoot my r5 1600, as you all seem to be getting 400 H/s stock. Meanwhile, here's how my CPU's been performing:

1 thread: 60 H/s (max values)
2 threads: 110 H/s
3 threads: 160 H/s
4 threads: 240 H/s
5 threads: 180 H/s
6 threads: 140 H/s
7 threads: 100 H/s

I can't understand why my chip's hashrate is peaking at 4 threads when you all are reporting optimal rates at 6 threads.

I've gone through all the necessary steps (locked paging file), and I'm really stuck here.

Claymore's miner yields similar results, although I have only tried with 3 and 4 threads.

The only thing I can think of is that stak's miner could have been updated since the pre-compiled version that I downloaded, although I doubt that's the cause for this behavior.

Any suggestions? I'd really appreciate it!

Post your config file, please.
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So I built the rig with Ryzen 5 1600 (without X) - and was quite amazed. That thing is performing even better than my other 1600X CPUs Cheesy I get stable 560 H/s from it - again at 3.8 Ghz. I guess it was a lucky pick of the CPU.

If You get below 500 (around 450 H/s) on Your 1600 CPUs - I may know where problem is. Im not sure if I should tell You - cause Youll be taking away my profits by mining better Cheesy But I am a good person so Ill tell You. (You can alway send me some monero scraps to: 4JUdGzvrMFDWrUUwY3toJATSeNwjn54LkCnKBPRzDuhzi5vSepHfUckJNxRL2gjkNrSqtCoRUrEDAgR wsQvVCjZbRwc3EtMhPPX3gZ4daM ) Cheesy

1st - follow this guide and unlock large pages in Win (https://www.usxmrpool.com/#easy_mining_guide)
2nd - cause You have 8 possible threads (16 MB L3) - but just 6 cores - it DOES matter on which cores You do the mining. Cause two cores will be under heavier load. And Windows uses cores from "beginning" - so usually core 1 and 2. If You put 2 threads on these two first cores - Youll see lower hashrates.

so configure xmr-stak-cpu like this:
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 },
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 },
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 4 },
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 6 },
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 8 },
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 9 },
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 10 },
{ "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 11 },

when I had it 0/1/2/3/4/6/8/10 - my hashrates were in those 450 ranges

hope it helps


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Thanks for trying to help me out, I really appreciate it.

My page file is configured to be 16 Gb at the min, 24 Gb at the max. While running the miner, it hovers around 16 Gb.

Funnynuffy, I followed that exact guide in setting up the miner, and I've locked page files in memory, granting access to the default user (myself). Maybe I should try allowing this function for root? Is that a thing?

Here's the "interesting" part of my config file:

[
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 4 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 6 },
],

I've tried the following as well:

[
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 4 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 6 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 8 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 10 },
],

[
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 4 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 6 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 8 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 10 },
],

[
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 1 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 3 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 5 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 7 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 9 },
   { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : false, "affine_to_cpu" : 11 },
],

Yet these behave similarly, netting ~140 H/s.

On HWMonitor, I can't get the CPU to draw more than 30W, which oddly makes sense (240 H/s is more or less half of what I'm expecting, and others have posted CPU draws of ~60W).

I have one 8 GB stick of 2400 MHz RAM in there, and I'm running Win10.

Thanks again!
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September 25, 2017, 03:50:30 PM
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Wow! Okay, so I just realized what's wrong.

I received a Ryzen 5 1400 instead of a 1600...

I can't believe I didn't notice that only four cores were enabled on HWMonitor...

I apologize for wasting your time, gents!
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Nevermind - then just run 4 threads (8MB L3 cache) - each on physical core (0,2,4,6) - and You should get maximum performance for Your CPU.
Btw one additional finding - when I dual mine ETH + something on my GPUs (1070) - each card draws around 100-110W (undervolted). And its possible to surf net, do administrative work etc. But when I switch GPUs to Monero - power draw is reduced to 60-70W per card, earnings +- similar to ETH - but its no longer possible to work on computer. Its as slow as my old 486 SX 25MHz machine or even ZX Spectrum Cheesy
Btw - those 1070s are doing 700-710 Hashes on Monero - so considering the price - Ryzen CPUs win (at least in my country)

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So I built the rig with Ryzen 5 1600 (without X) - and was quite amazed. That thing is performing even better than my other 1600X CPUs Cheesy I get stable 560 H/s from it - again at 3.8 Ghz. I guess it was a lucky pick of the CPU.
There is nothing amazing. 1600X is only overclocked 1600.
But everybody can do it himself.

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I've recently started to CPU mine Monero using xmrig.exe (I tried to compile xmr-stak-cpu from source, but unfortunately I can't afford to quit my daytime job to fix all problems I encountered) in administrator mode on Windows 10, meaning Huge pages are activated. I have a Ryzen 1700 processor (not overclocked) that I currently get about 300 H/s from.

Isn't this a bit low? I've seen people in this thread mention hash rates above 500 H/s. Is there any tweaking that I could perform to get a larger hash rate? I pretty much have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm eager to learn Smiley
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I was getting 400 on my fx8350 but the power part wasn't worth it are you guys gpu mining along side cpu mining if so what motherboards are u running

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October 13, 2017, 12:13:26 AM
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I've recently started to CPU mine Monero using xmrig.exe (I tried to compile xmr-stak-cpu from source, but unfortunately I can't afford to quit my daytime job to fix all problems I encountered) in administrator mode on Windows 10, meaning Huge pages are activated. I have a Ryzen 1700 processor (not overclocked) that I currently get about 300 H/s from.

Isn't this a bit low? I've seen people in this thread mention hash rates above 500 H/s. Is there any tweaking that I could perform to get a larger hash rate? I pretty much have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm eager to learn Smiley

Try installing Nicehash and running it in Administrator mode in order for locked pages to function correctly. See what the benchmark is for Monero after doing that - it will let you know if there's a need to configure your miner better etc... since it's all automated.  You can expect to top 600 hashrate if you Overclock your 1700.... even as high as 630-650 at 4.0 ghz.

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Picked up a Ryzen 3 1300x for my wifes build, damn this thing is powerful for the cost!
Does 400kh/s on Zcoin, 300ish on XMR, same performance as my 6th gen i-7 that cost x2, wow.
Gonna get a threadripper i think for next build, regret getting just a 3 this go around Sad

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I've recently started to CPU mine Monero using xmrig.exe (I tried to compile xmr-stak-cpu from source, but unfortunately I can't afford to quit my daytime job to fix all problems I encountered) in administrator mode on Windows 10, meaning Huge pages are activated. I have a Ryzen 1700 processor (not overclocked) that I currently get about 300 H/s from.

Isn't this a bit low? I've seen people in this thread mention hash rates above 500 H/s. Is there any tweaking that I could perform to get a larger hash rate? I pretty much have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm eager to learn Smiley


Try this config. You should expect 590 h/s at 3.8 Ghz

"cpu_thread_num" : 8,
"cpu_threads_conf" :[
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 4 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 6 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 8 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 10 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 12 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 14 },
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prices on I7 are dropping plus you can get an 8 thread xeon kaby lake now for $200
I dont think ryzens are really worth dealing with the low amount of 8 plus gpu motherboards

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I am not mining with my ryzen.
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October 13, 2017, 07:06:34 AM
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start mining biblecoin with ryzens= it very stable for this cpu on this coin

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October 13, 2017, 07:34:49 AM
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start mining biblecoin with ryzens= it very stable for this cpu on this coin

whats the biblecoin hash rate? with ryzen?

will biblecoin be worth anything? seems kind like a uselses coin

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October 13, 2017, 10:26:44 AM
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I've recently started to CPU mine Monero using xmrig.exe (I tried to compile xmr-stak-cpu from source, but unfortunately I can't afford to quit my daytime job to fix all problems I encountered) in administrator mode on Windows 10, meaning Huge pages are activated. I have a Ryzen 1700 processor (not overclocked) that I currently get about 300 H/s from.

Isn't this a bit low? I've seen people in this thread mention hash rates above 500 H/s. Is there any tweaking that I could perform to get a larger hash rate? I pretty much have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm eager to learn Smiley


Try this config. You should expect 590 h/s at 3.8 Ghz

"cpu_thread_num" : 8,
"cpu_threads_conf" :[
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 4 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 6 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 8 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 10 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 12 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 14 },
],

Thanks! I guess these commands are for xmr-stak-cpu, and not for xmrig, right? Can't get them to work in xmrig.
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October 13, 2017, 08:23:58 PM
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I've recently started to CPU mine Monero using xmrig.exe (I tried to compile xmr-stak-cpu from source, but unfortunately I can't afford to quit my daytime job to fix all problems I encountered) in administrator mode on Windows 10, meaning Huge pages are activated. I have a Ryzen 1700 processor (not overclocked) that I currently get about 300 H/s from.

Isn't this a bit low? I've seen people in this thread mention hash rates above 500 H/s. Is there any tweaking that I could perform to get a larger hash rate? I pretty much have no idea what I'm doing, but I'm eager to learn Smiley


Try this config. You should expect 590 h/s at 3.8 Ghz

"cpu_thread_num" : 8,
"cpu_threads_conf" :[
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 0 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 2 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 4 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 6 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 8 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 10 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 12 },
    { "low_power_mode" : false, "no_prefetch" : true, "affine_to_cpu" : 14 },
],

Thanks! I guess these commands are for xmr-stak-cpu, and not for xmrig, right? Can't get them to work in xmrig.

Yep, that looks like xmr-stak-cpu settings to me.  I have not tried xmrig myself since xmr-stak-cpu has always been stable and efficient in our use of it.

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October 21, 2017, 10:34:27 AM
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i suppose xmr stack cpu gives u the highest hashrate.  im currently running amd ryzen 1700(no x version) on asus x370 pro  @3.850mhz stock air cooler. getting about 550h/s in claymore xmr cpu miner.hadnt time to oc better. should have configured xmr stack.
u know what is best about ryzen?  even if i put load on 8 real cores ,i have no drop in hashrate for any gpus. this is way beyond expectations as intels are the other way around.i dont know why mining ppl do not buy amd for their rigs. the mainboards northbridge chip is also cool at load.

tweak : just remember  to activate 'high performance' in power options of windows. if not, u will get about 350h/s
dont forget to enable 'lock pages in memory'  as well.
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October 21, 2017, 11:30:29 AM
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i suppose xmr stack cpu gives u the highest hashrate.  im currently running amd ryzen 1700(no x version) on asus x370 pro  @3.850mhz stock air cooler. getting about 550h/s in claymore.hadnt time to oc better. should have configured xmr stack.
u know what is best about ryzen?  even if i put load on 8 real cores ,i have no drop in hashrate for any gpus. this is way beyond expectations as intels are the other way around.i dont know why mining ppl do not buy amd for their rigs. the mainboards northbridge chip is also cool at load.

tweak : just remember  to activate 'high performance' in power options of windows. if not, u will get about 350h/s
dont forget to enable 'lock pages in memory'  as well.

how about power usage ? is it stable when you are activating high performance ? need more info about this ryzen
want to build new ryzen rig, since im amd big fans hehehe

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October 21, 2017, 11:40:38 AM
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Just for info, I'm doing 1370 h/s XMR with XMR-STACK-CPU on a stock Threadripper 1950x.
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i suppose xmr stack cpu gives u the highest hashrate.  im currently running amd ryzen 1700(no x version) on asus x370 pro  @3.850mhz stock air cooler. getting about 550h/s in claymore.hadnt time to oc better. should have configured xmr stack.
u know what is best about ryzen?  even if i put load on 8 real cores ,i have no drop in hashrate for any gpus. this is way beyond expectations as intels are the other way around.i dont know why mining ppl do not buy amd for their rigs. the mainboards northbridge chip is also cool at load.

tweak : just remember  to activate 'high performance' in power options of windows. if not, u will get about 350h/s
dont forget to enable 'lock pages in memory'  as well.

how about power usage ? is it stable when you are activating high performance ? need more info about this ryzen
want to build new ryzen rig, since im amd big fans hehehe

We have 5 Ryzen CPUs in my wife's small mining farm and 2 Ryzen CPUs in personal computers. They have all been CPU mining for several months at a minimum and we have never had a single issue with them. They are very stable and power consumption is quite reasonable if you don't overvolt them. Temperatures are lower then when running CPU benchmarks or stress tests too. Ie. mining has lower temps then running Cinebench etc...

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October 22, 2017, 01:48:09 AM
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i suppose xmr stack cpu gives u the highest hashrate.  im currently running amd ryzen 1700(no x version) on asus x370 pro  @3.850mhz stock air cooler. getting about 550h/s in claymore.hadnt time to oc better. should have configured xmr stack.
u know what is best about ryzen?  even if i put load on 8 real cores ,i have no drop in hashrate for any gpus. this is way beyond expectations as intels are the other way around.i dont know why mining ppl do not buy amd for their rigs. the mainboards northbridge chip is also cool at load.

tweak : just remember  to activate 'high performance' in power options of windows. if not, u will get about 350h/s
dont forget to enable 'lock pages in memory'  as well.

how about power usage ? is it stable when you are activating high performance ? need more info about this ryzen
want to build new ryzen rig, since im amd big fans hehehe

We have 5 Ryzen CPUs in my wife's small mining farm and 2 Ryzen CPUs in personal computers. They have all been CPU mining for several months at a minimum and we have never had a single issue with them. They are very stable and power consumption is quite reasonable if you don't overvolt them. Temperatures are lower then when running CPU benchmarks or stress tests too. Ie. mining has lower temps then running Cinebench etc...

what are u mining ? with rizen ? i tried bible pay but ryzen is terrible on that, way slower than I7

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October 22, 2017, 02:04:36 AM
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We have 5 Ryzen CPUs in my wife's small mining farm and 2 Ryzen CPUs in personal computers. They have all been CPU mining for several months at a minimum and we have never had a single issue with them. They are very stable and power consumption is quite reasonable if you don't overvolt them. Temperatures are lower then when running CPU benchmarks or stress tests too. Ie. mining has lower temps then running Cinebench etc...

Temps depend on the algo. Cryptonight and other memory hard algos run relatively cool.
If you want a hot algo try keccak. I'm particularly interested in the 1700. It comes
with a cooler and has a lower TDP, besides being cheaper than the 1700X. Do you OC?

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