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December 31, 2017, 03:31:52 PM
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    So, just for some clarity:

  • The primary dev/promoter has not logged into BTCT since October
  • The github repo has had no code commits/activity since October
  • There was considerable speculation this was just a scheme to pump SPR for bagholders
  • SPR hit ATH in... October just before split
  • Slack is no longer auto-inviting and there's been zero updates for two months


Going out on a limb here, but the speculation seems correct.[/list]

  • WTF are you talking about? BTCT is not the name of the Helium repository. Just like any intelligent dev they do not post repository updates until it is live on the main net. No one in their right mind would make their intelectual property public before they can implement it.

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    The 'official' repository at heliumpay is more or less empty as HLM is still weeks ahead of launch but if you are in dire need of GitHubs please feel welcome.

    • An ICO would be a better way to scam the community, an airdrop without a launch? Why wouldn't they just launch a Dash clone and make even more money?

    • Of course it hit ATH, because a superior project was born.


      • Bullshit, slack may be full but there have been plenty of updates. There was one just a few days ago.

Now that's what I needed to hear. Same for many people here who are becoming doubtful of the project.

But if that's the case, I would hope they'd drop a quick update to all their channels. I also wish they hadn't hunted at an imminent launch mid-november on twitter. That got a lot of our hopes up. Like others have said, needing more time is fine. Not dropping any updates on this main thread nor on Twitter with the only updates being on a closed Slack, doesn't help the FUD that many are spreading here.

And likewise, as others have said, this whole pre-launch marketing and whatnot could have been handled a lot better. I think there's a lot that can still be salvaged and not make this entire coin a massive dump on launch, but the team REALLY has to want it IMO. Simply showing that would go a long way. [/list][/list]


HLM dead?

Can something be dead before it is born?

Technically, yes, it's called stillborn. And apparently it can happen to cryptocurrencies as well. Grin

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Thomas Paine, 1776.
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December 31, 2017, 09:41:45 PM
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It's 2018 now and this project hasn't even finished a wallet yet damn.

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January 01, 2018, 12:42:09 AM
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Another dead project?
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January 01, 2018, 02:07:55 PM
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SPR holders, for the price of what you are prepared to do? Waiting for the release of a helium wallet or selling your SPR. Unfortunately, I put the SPR in the wallet while taking a snapshot, and if I put it in Cryptopia then it's a good time
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January 01, 2018, 04:01:52 PM
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SPR holders, for the price of what you are prepared to do? Waiting for the release of a helium wallet or selling your SPR. Unfortunately, I put the SPR in the wallet while taking a snapshot, and if I put it in Cryptopia then it's a good time

jeeezus!!this keeps up  in fiat value it will be almost back to where it was before swap. glad i held!  (well most anyway)
crypto ....man its crazy.


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January 01, 2018, 09:12:21 PM
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Another dead project?

i hope not,,
last news from HLM is at November 30th
https://www.heliumlabs.org/blog/november-30th-almost-there
and now all people waiting when the mainnet will be launch

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January 02, 2018, 08:17:56 PM
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Time yet, to say, that those who bought SPR to get HLM have been thoroughly fucked?
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January 02, 2018, 08:39:27 PM
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Another dead project?

i hope not,,
last news from HLM is at November 30th
https://www.heliumlabs.org/blog/november-30th-almost-there
and now all people waiting when the mainnet will be launch

until when,,?
slack is quiet and no announcements about the launch of mainnet

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January 02, 2018, 10:01:02 PM
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looks like a scam...
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January 03, 2018, 12:11:33 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2671181.0
https://bitcoinspread.co/

BitcoinSpread
Launched 29 July 2014, 9:00 UTC, No Premine
Website
Reddit | Twitter

Completely Decentralized Digital Currency
without Pools

We are officially forking off SpreadCoin on 31 January 2018, 00:00 UTC
Exact block number to be confirmed at a later date!

All existing SpreadCoin (SPR) holders will get 1:1 fork of the coin on the new chain.





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SPR price increase has been found.
I'm grateful to the HLM team for allowing me to wait so long that I might have lost SPR without you.
It looks like your project is not going well and may even fail.
It does not matter, new opportunities come. BitcoinSpread is faster than yours, maybe it will not be blocked by BITTREX like yours.
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January 04, 2018, 12:08:47 AM
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Time yet, to say, that those who bought SPR to get HLM have been thoroughly fucked?

It's starting to feel that way. Problem is, I bought my SPR with BTC, not USD or cashing out shitcoins. We're the guys who lost big-time in raw dollar value! But then, that's probably the majority of us.

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January 04, 2018, 10:59:35 AM
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Warning to everyone.   Coins101 is clearly the creator of Bitcoin Spread.   As always his helper Karmashark is by his side cheering on his latest scam.   

Karmashark introduced Bitcoin Spread Ann thread and as if by magic a new user has created the coin.

Coins101 also has created Vtorrent in 2017 and now is going back to pump that now he is finished his total joke of
claiming to create Helium.

Coins101 and Karmashark have abandoned the Helium project and ignore the community, amusingly the community
has a bizarre belief development will still occur, when its clear its leaders have cashed in and shipped out long ago.

Coins101 never completes any project he is involved in will go on forking and creating coins until he has enough money
that he no longer feels the need to pull this BS. 

Coins101 never responds to any questions from the helium community, but he will run to his own defence if any accusation is made by Georgem as he is purely interested in his own self preservation. 

Shame on him and his front man Karmashark.   Their time is coming to an end and the walls are closing in on their double act.  Its over gentleman. Just go and create a new profile and start all over again.

For those that are not capable Zijieli is clearly just coins101 and his gang of scammers.   

Typical hallmarks include getting cryptopia to release the coin and claiming Bittrex with zero chance of achieving it. Exactly the same as Helium. 

What a joke.
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January 04, 2018, 11:11:02 AM
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Warning to everyone.   Coins101 is clearly the creator of Bitcoin Spread.   As always his helper Karmashark is by his side cheering on his latest scam.   

Karmashark introduced Bitcoin Spread Ann thread and as if by magic a new user has created the coin.

Coins101 also has created Vtorrent in 2017 and now is going back to pump that now he is finished his total joke of
claiming to create Helium.

Coins101 and Karmashark have abandoned the Helium project and ignore the community, amusingly the community
has a bizarre belief development will still occur, when its clear its leaders have cashed in and shipped out long ago.

Coins101 never completes any project he is involved in will go on forking and creating coins until he has enough money
that he no longer feels the need to pull this BS. 

Coins101 never responds to any questions from the helium community, but he will run to his own defence if any accusation is made by Georgem as he is purely interested in his own self preservation. 

Shame on him and his front man Karmashark.   Their time is coming to an end and the walls are closing in on their double act.  Its over gentleman. Just go and create a new profile and start all over again.

For those that are not capable Zijieli is clearly just coins101 and his gang of scammers.   

Typical hallmarks include getting cryptopia to release the coin and claiming Bittrex with zero chance of achieving it. Exactly the same as Helium. 

What a joke.

And now is when the FUD attack begins.
A lot of accusations and no evidence. You are the joke Smiley
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January 04, 2018, 11:16:18 AM
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True fud would only occur if Coins and Karma actually manage to Launch something,  but they are totally inept. 

So the only way you can Fud their project is to try and prevent a pre pump of whichever fork they are trying to run.

Coins101 Has been in crypto for years and years.  Never has seen a single project through.

He has abandoned Helium,  he has done zero work.    Karmashark created a twitter account that has stock photos and about 20 minutes of effort.

Its a total disaster.   Its time this came to an end.   
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January 04, 2018, 11:54:52 AM
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Warning to everyone.   Coins101 is clearly the creator of Bitcoin Spread.   As always his helper Karmashark is by his side cheering on his latest scam.    


First, there is not a single proof that coins101 or karma have any relationship with BitcoinSpread. Such a relationship is stupid for the following reasons:
  • According to you they have gone from the most complicated and rare scam in history (Helium) to the most stupid and easy of all (BitcoinSpread - make a "fork" with the word Bitcoin)
  • The creators of BitcoinSpread show a CLEAR lack of not having a clue (they do not know that there are 2 threads of SPR, they copied the old thread and they cloned the old GitHub, they think that the developer is MrSpread) and I do not have to tell you about the technical part.
  • Why expose himself as Coins101, that there are people who know him personally when you can create a new account in BTCT, say that it was necessary for PR.

Karmashark introduced Bitcoin Spread Ann thread and as if by magic a new user has created the coin.


That is completely false. Karma did not introduce BTCSPR at any time.
You are referring to this message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.6400

He was offering a plausible explanation of Spreadcoin's price increase at the beginning of the year and responding to the accusations about the manipulation of the SPR price that georgem made about the Helium team in that same thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.msg27008946#msg27008946
You can see the answers from coins101 and karmashark below.
In addition, two messages later he criticized that same project saying clearly that it was not going to get to anything:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.msg27303936#msg27303936

Why say that project (a supposed scam of yours) was trash and that it was not going to get to anything when you could just shut up? To look more innocent? Please...


Coins101 also has created Vtorrent in 2017 and now is going back to pump that now he is finished his total joke of
claiming to create Helium.

Coins101 and Karmashark have abandoned the Helium project and ignore the community, amusingly the community
has a bizarre belief development will still occur, when its clear its leaders have cashed in and shipped out long ago.


The same as before, if according to you they have created two scams with new accounts (BTCSpread and Vtorrent) why not create another one for Helium?
Apart from that, there is nothing to indicate that coins101 or karma were the creators of those projects.
Your theory does not hold.

Coins101 never completes any project he is involved in will go on forking and creating coins until he has enough money
that he no longer feels the need to pull this BS.  


Considering that he has never created any project from scratch, your deduction in this part doesn't hold either.

Coins101 never responds to any questions from the helium community, but he will run to his own defence if any accusation is made by Georgem as he is purely interested in his own self preservation.  


They can not answer questions related to the project for legal reasons. Karma said it, and I quote:
"...so much of the work we do that cannot be shared here is due to either legal reasons or it is in the best interest of our partnerships at the time. "

That coins101 has not said a "hello" is something that we all agree is weird. That's the only valid point you can have, and you do not even mention it.


Shame on him and his front man Karmashark.   Their time is coming to an end and the walls are closing in on their double act.  Its over gentleman. Just go and create a new profile and start all over again.

For those that are not capable Zijieli is clearly just coins101 and his gang of scammers.  


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Typical hallmarks include getting cryptopia to release the coin and claiming Bittrex with zero chance of achieving it. Exactly the same as Helium.  


The Bittrex thing has already been explained repeatedly, the snapshot could not be done with Bittrex due to the dates they were. In August there was the Bitcoin hardfork and all the work that would entail. In November they had more hard forks and on top of that they had to update something about the KYC (if I remember correctly) so they were quite busy too.

For a coin to be listed in Cryptopia, you have to pay a considerable amount (when the snapshot was less) and they also have to do an investigation of the project.
For a scam would have been easier to say that later would be listed on several exchanges.



Your accusations are not supported by any side and, on top of that, you do not offer a single piece of evidence.
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January 04, 2018, 12:22:08 PM
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RzeroD ladies and gentleman is clearly in with their whole network.  Gets the pump info prior to fleecing the dumb money which chases it later.

So sad that someone can try and support a project and claim some sort of proof using the lack of evidence method.

Bitrex and Cryptopia connection on everything they do would be easily used as significant body of proof in this total Scam operation.

Helium has zero development capability and got Ghiggins to try and bodge together a chain because they are totally inept.

Then that became too much like hard work and threw in the towel. 

Keep cheering while the titanic goes down RZeroD.
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January 04, 2018, 12:51:44 PM
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RzeroD ladies and gentleman is clearly in with their whole network.  Gets the pump info prior to fleecing the dumb money which chases it later.

So sad that someone can try and support a project and claim some sort of proof using the lack of evidence method.

Bitrex and Cryptopia connection on everything they do would be easily used as significant body of proof in this total Scam operation.

Helium has zero development capability and got Ghiggins to try and bodge together a chain because they are totally inept.

Then that became too much like hard work and threw in the towel.  

Keep cheering while the titanic goes down RZeroD.

It's easier to attack me than to prove that I am wrong.
Any accusation without evidence again? Tongue

Helium has zero development capability and got Ghiggins to try and bodge together a chain because they are totally inept.


You prove again that you have no idea what you are talking about. In any programming team that works on large or complicated projects, it is very normal for workers to only know how to program/design a part of the code because they are specialized in that part/language/framework/whatever.
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January 04, 2018, 01:34:51 PM
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By this stage there should be a whole group of developers all contributing to Helium.

Nobody can offer anything as Coins101 has nothing he can share with anyone of any quality. 

Karmashark clearly has totally zero in regards to enterprise to offer anyone. 

Coins101 months ago said "just wait there honey, I will be home soon with something great" and never returned again. Its laughable.

You see when other projects are under wraps, there are many contributing voices to each section of development.   

We have one guy, one solitary lost individual who won't talk to anyone, doesn't provide a shred of work in any area and you want to defend it
to your last breath.

Not a single ounce of work has been done on this since August. Total failure.
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January 04, 2018, 01:46:17 PM
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By this stage there should be a whole group of developers all contributing to Helium.

Nobody can offer anything as Coins101 has nothing he can share with anyone of any quality. 

Karmashark clearly has totally zero in regards to enterprise to offer anyone. 

Coins101 months ago said "just wait there honey, I will be home soon with something great" and never returned again. Its laughable.

You see when other projects are under wraps, there are many contributing voices to each section of development.   

We have one guy, one solitary lost individual who won't talk to anyone, doesn't provide a shred of work in any area and you want to defend it
to your last breath.

Not a single ounce of work has been done on this since August. Total failure.

I have to admit, you have a great imagination to invent stories.
Right now you are just a fudder without evidence, which is confirmed as the time passes.
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January 04, 2018, 02:13:04 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

I have the perfect tale for yourself, its called Emperors new clothes.  It directly applies to you. 

Helium simply does not exist, its only an IOU on cryptopia that has been abandoned.

There is no enterprise. No blockchain. No leader.  A basic twitter. A basic website. Nothing updated. Community desperate and abandoned.  Every time frame
months past with zero result.

And in the face of the above you want to call me out for fud?  there is nothing to fud. Im just trying to stop Coins101 pulling this crap
again and answer to the entire mess he has made.
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