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January 04, 2018, 03:40:54 PM
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How about producing a video from someone in Helium?   you can't.

Robert is there to represent Hyperledger, and the topic of blockchain.  He is not representing Helium, he doesn't even mention in during the whole
presentation!!!!  He wont even talk about what helium is.

IBM area a serious company, they produce serious ideas and solutions. 

Coins101 shadow of secrets is coming to an end. No more false promises

It is a very serious environment but according to you they have put the Helium Alliance logo because yes, because it was cool.
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January 05, 2018, 11:12:31 AM
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How about producing a video from someone in Helium?   you can't.

Robert is there to represent Hyperledger, and the topic of blockchain.  He is not representing Helium, he doesn't even mention in during the whole
presentation!!!!  He wont even talk about what helium is.

IBM area a serious company, they produce serious ideas and solutions. 

Coins101 shadow of secrets is coming to an end. No more false promises

It is a very serious environment but according to you they have put the Helium Alliance logo because yes, because it was cool.

I have skimmed the 50 minutes video, but I haven't noticed the Helium logo. Could you point me to the correct part, please? Unfortunately I couldn't spend enough time to see the whole video from the beginning to the end.

(Genuine question, not trolling)
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January 05, 2018, 11:53:41 AM
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I have skimmed the 50 minutes video, but I haven't noticed the Helium logo. Could you point me to the correct part, please? Unfortunately I couldn't spend enough time to see the whole video from the beginning to the end.

(Genuine question, not trolling)

It's on the first slide on the corner, it says "Helium Alliance."
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January 05, 2018, 03:23:05 PM
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I have skimmed the 50 minutes video, but I haven't noticed the Helium logo. Could you point me to the correct part, please? Unfortunately I couldn't spend enough time to see the whole video from the beginning to the end.

(Genuine question, not trolling)

It's on the first slide on the corner, it says "Helium Alliance."


Yes, I saw it (or something very similar as the quality isn't too good), thank you...
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January 05, 2018, 03:27:35 PM
Last edit: January 05, 2018, 04:23:49 PM by excelerator
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Check this:

HELIUM BLOCKCHAIN ALLIANCE - Robert Longden IBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=3WszfphlmZA

Check this web too: http://cobieblockchain.com/

May they never tell you again that this is smoke and waste Wink

This is completely misleading - the logo for Helium Blockchain Alliance is not associated with Robert Longden's presentation (starting at 8:33) but rather the previous presenter's discussion (name unidentified).  Longden's presentation is clearly about the Hyperledger Fabric and the importance of that to the construction industry.

The Helium Alliance logo appears to be just a paid sponsor logo for the event which is an extremely common and acceptable business practice (along side of the Hyperledger logo).

I sincerely appreciate RzeroD taking the time to document that the Helium Alliance in fact presented nothing to the industry at this event other than a sponsor logo and actually promoted the importance of Hyperledger to the construction industry.
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January 05, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
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Does anyone have an update from Slack about this?
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January 05, 2018, 05:34:32 PM
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Does anyone have an update from Slack about this?

No update about anything in Slack, Coin101 is still absent. There are a few hundred messages about if it was a scam or not. Useless, but very entertaining.

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January 05, 2018, 05:58:56 PM
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Man, I'm really getting tired of emotionally coddling the children on this board. Stop responding to newbie trolls, some of you are either lying or incompetent. Slack was updated days ago.


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To offer some insight into a few burning questions that arise every so often:

1. @coins101 and myself are most definitely committed to this project and the motivations are not financially rooted. Said another way, both of us have been working day jobs in the Enterprise world at various levels (you can look up my background via Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassidyjason/ ).  We have accomplished much in our professional careers outside of cryptocurrency as well as a fair share within. For both of us the goal here is simple - Create something that will last well beyond our years in the project. We have put a sizeable amount of our own funds (yes, a lot of money) into the project and we have every intention of seeing that come back to us someday.




2. The Bittrex listing was something that both @coins101 and myself worked diligently on for many months. Not weeks, months. This was due to a changing of the political climate and Bittrex was preparing to address this. Their resources were very constrained due to having to jump through hoops for regulators and other improved security measures. They also knew helping us with the snapshot would be more work on their end. Sadly, we did not get word from them that they could not help us until very close to our snapshot date. At the time, the snapshot date had been pushed back to accommodate an exchange due to the overwhelming support from the community to have one for convenience.  We had a back-up option in Cryptopia and we pivoted as fast as possible without forcing yet another delay on the community.




3. This project has very long term goals with Enterprise aspirations. Any chain can close DASH and toss out a MN setup with a few fancy tech terms to gain a quick marketcap placing. This is not our interest, so much of the work we do that cannot be shared here is due to either legal reasons or it is in the best interest of our partnerships at the time. Some of the delays on the project to date have been due to this and that is a reflection of our long term focus to bring value to the chain. Nothing outside of real world usage is going to matter soon with a space of 5000 coins
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Posted in #generalDec 30th at 3:47 PM

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January 05, 2018, 06:30:08 PM
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Check this:

HELIUM BLOCKCHAIN ALLIANCE - Robert Longden IBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=3WszfphlmZA

Check this web too: http://cobieblockchain.com/

May they never tell you again that this is smoke and waste Wink

This is completely misleading - the logo for Helium Blockchain Alliance is not associated with Robert Longden's presentation (starting at 8:33) but rather the previous presenter's discussion (name unidentified).  Longden's presentation is clearly about the Hyperledger Fabric and the importance of that to the construction industry.

The Helium Alliance logo appears to be just a paid sponsor logo for the event which is an extremely common and acceptable business practice (along side of the Hyperledger logo).

I sincerely appreciate RzeroD taking the time to document that the Helium Alliance in fact presented nothing to the industry at this event other than a sponsor logo and actually promoted the importance of Hyperledger to the construction industry.

The slide in that video is from the presentation found here: http://cobieblockchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2017//07/03-cobie-blockchain4.pdf

In that presentation there is a slide that says:

• Blockchain software will be based on Hyperledger
Composer
• Linux Foundation & IBM influenced
• Cross industry specification and requirements will be
coordinated through Helium Alliance

Then the next presenter is Robert Longden from Hyperledger.

Funny that he didn't see the need tell everyone that they actually weren't working together...
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January 06, 2018, 07:57:40 AM
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cant wait to put my antminer D3 on helium pool
when it will start? approx? some insider info? anyone :-)

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January 06, 2018, 09:20:08 AM
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cant wait to put my antminer D3 on helium pool
when it will start? approx? some insider info? anyone :-)

Not really... All of us waiting for the start or at least Coin101's appearance and a meaningful update..

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January 06, 2018, 01:42:34 PM
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Man, I'm really getting tired of emotionally coddling the children on this board. Stop responding to newbie trolls, some of you are either lying or incompetent. Slack was updated days ago.


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To offer some insight into a few burning questions that arise every so often:

1. @coins101 and myself are most definitely committed to this project and the motivations are not financially rooted. Said another way, both of us have been working day jobs in the Enterprise world at various levels (you can look up my background via Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassidyjason/ ).  We have accomplished much in our professional careers outside of cryptocurrency as well as a fair share within. For both of us the goal here is simple - Create something that will last well beyond our years in the project. We have put a sizeable amount of our own funds (yes, a lot of money) into the project and we have every intention of seeing that come back to us someday.




2. The Bittrex listing was something that both @coins101 and myself worked diligently on for many months. Not weeks, months. This was due to a changing of the political climate and Bittrex was preparing to address this. Their resources were very constrained due to having to jump through hoops for regulators and other improved security measures. They also knew helping us with the snapshot would be more work on their end. Sadly, we did not get word from them that they could not help us until very close to our snapshot date. At the time, the snapshot date had been pushed back to accommodate an exchange due to the overwhelming support from the community to have one for convenience.  We had a back-up option in Cryptopia and we pivoted as fast as possible without forcing yet another delay on the community.




3. This project has very long term goals with Enterprise aspirations. Any chain can close DASH and toss out a MN setup with a few fancy tech terms to gain a quick marketcap placing. This is not our interest, so much of the work we do that cannot be shared here is due to either legal reasons or it is in the best interest of our partnerships at the time. Some of the delays on the project to date have been due to this and that is a reflection of our long term focus to bring value to the chain. Nothing outside of real world usage is going to matter soon with a space of 5000 coins
Posted in #generalDec 30th at 3:42 PM


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Posted in #generalDec 30th at 3:47 PM

Unless I'm mistaken there is no longer any way to join the slack group? Thanks for the update I suppose.
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January 06, 2018, 03:22:41 PM
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Unless I'm mistaken there is no longer any way to join the slack group? Thanks for the update I suppose.

They have already fixed it. Check it: https://heliumslack.herokuapp.com/

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Unless I'm mistaken there is no longer any way to join the slack group? Thanks for the update I suppose.

They have already fixed it. Check it: https://heliumslack.herokuapp.com/



Not sure what slack that is. Trollbox is the official slack of Helium.

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January 06, 2018, 06:33:01 PM
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Not sure what slack that is. Trollbox is the official slack of Helium.

It's a Heroku app to send invitations. It's for the Slack of Helium, this same link is placed in the OP.
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January 06, 2018, 09:54:40 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

I have the perfect tale for yourself, its called Emperors new clothes.  It directly applies to you. 

Helium simply does not exist, its only an IOU on cryptopia that has been abandoned.

There is no enterprise. No blockchain. No leader.  A basic twitter. A basic website. Nothing updated. Community desperate and abandoned.  Every time frame
months past with zero result.

And in the face of the above you want to call me out for fud?  there is nothing to fud. Im just trying to stop Coins101 pulling this crap
again and answer to the entire mess he has made.

HLM Dead +++

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January 06, 2018, 10:10:53 PM
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https://www.facebook.com/HeliumPay/posts/2002001986755589?comment_id=2002110136744774&reply_comment_id=2003423339946787&notif_id=1515259109471753&notif_t=feed_comment_reply


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Helium Pay Jason Gilhooley - I can understand the community is getting frustrated with the time lines being pushed back. We are in the final stages and will release an update in the coming weeks.

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January 07, 2018, 01:07:40 AM
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They have missed an insane opportunity with the enthusiastic new market right now.  Launching in a few weeks means a lot smaller of a community as Im sure a market correction will be under way by then.

This is such a let down project.  If it had been active during the last few weeks there could have been a chance to build a community around it.  So many new people entering the market looking for a coin to get behind.  Excuse me.. but fuck perfect code why not just launch and fork if there are any issues.  I cant understand why the delay other then either this being a scam.. OR someone is being a perfectionist and refusing to launch something they dont think is finished.  The fact is nothing is ever finished and can always be improved.  It does more harm than good to hold back a project like this.

I had such high hopes here and to see it squandered is a really big bummer.  Honestly if you just came out and said you were a scam and you were living in the bahamas now I would feel better. I hate having to constantly check back in and see more empty promises. 
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January 07, 2018, 01:14:15 AM
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hello friends all
I have not understood
about this helium coin.
is there any way to get this free coin?
if i want to buy this coin
where is the market?
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January 07, 2018, 08:11:08 AM
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hello friends all
I have not understood
about this helium coin.
is there any way to get this free coin?
if i want to buy this coin
where is the market?
There is no market yet for hilium development of the wallet and blockhain are still in progress hilium was airdrop from spreadcoin chain and cryptopia exchange have supported it.
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