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March 14, 2018, 04:51:27 PM
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From what I understand ..this coin is based on DASH ..thus they are waiting for the Dev's of DASH to make some fixes to the code

before they move on and release Helium? Is that the crux of the issue now? If so anyone have any idea of a timeline just on the DASH fix?

thanks, just trying to put this in some kind of perspective/timeline

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Isn't this a really bad sign for HELIUM itself then? Whenever there is a bug or some issue with the code that requires an update or a fix, this community has to wait for DASH developers to act? Or am I misunderstanding this?

I am looking for clarity on this myself...but, from what I understand this is the reason for the delay...I suppose it makes sense, as a fork....this is also true of say

Litecoin and Bitcoin ..in that litecoin is a fork...I suppose it depends on how open DASH devs are with Helium devs....on keeping them in the loop..it is not a big

deal with LTC and BTC but it may be a big deal for DASH devs just not liking forks like Helium or something.

But yeah, clarity on the holdup, a timeline on the supposed 'fix' needed by dash devs ....would be helpful..even if it is just a 'ballpark' this summer of 2018 as a guess



So Dash has 3 security bugs that were discovered during the bounty. Dash has a large development team to fix those bugs. Helium has been financed out of pocket by the developers. Since Helium does not yet have the funds to hire a large development team, they were waiting for Dash to release the update to save months of development time and costs.

 Things have changed though, from what I understand, Helium will launch soon but remain Dash compatible until after the security patch can be added. Then it will branch out. Helium needs to gain steam so the Treasury can start funding a core development team.


After the 'branch out' will it still be x11 mineable? Or by 'branch out' you mean it will go POS coin or something? (I plan to mine this coin if possible with x11 miner)


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March 15, 2018, 01:40:55 PM
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ok, i hope that this Helium is now on a right highway
my D3s are waiting this start  Cool

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March 15, 2018, 06:42:27 PM
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They've been ramping up with Graham's help. The latest updates have been encouraging. They are based off ox X11 and planned on D3s mining for coins. I don't think that has changed.
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March 15, 2018, 08:28:39 PM
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I can have understanding for slow start, but I received today mail from Cryptopia about unsuccessful login attempt. It says that after third one, account will be locked. Advice is using exclusive e-mail address for Cryptopia.
Too much time passed, not knowing how long it will take more. Give us any kind of wallet (paper one is good enough) to move the coins from exchange. It is bad practice keeping them so long there.

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March 15, 2018, 09:08:08 PM
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I can have understanding for slow start, but I received today mail from Cryptopia about unsuccessful login attempt. It says that after third one, account will be locked. Advice is using exclusive e-mail address for Cryptopia.
Too much time passed, not knowing how long it will take more. Give us any kind of wallet (paper one is good enough) to move the coins from exchange. It is bad practice keeping them so long there.

HLM blockchain has not activated yet so there is no way to transfer HLM from exchanges. We are keeping HLM as IOUs in the exchange. If something happens to cryptotopia than we have a bigger problem to get hlms. When they activate the blockchain we will have wallets and we can transfer but atm we can only wait for devs to finalize things.
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March 15, 2018, 11:16:57 PM
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It's alive  Shocked

From what I understand ..this coin is based on DASH ..thus they are waiting for the Dev's of DASH to make some fixes to the code

before they move on and release Helium? Is that the crux of the issue now? If so anyone have any idea of a timeline just on the DASH fix?

thanks, just trying to put this in some kind of perspective/timeline

brad


Isn't this a really bad sign for HELIUM itself then? Whenever there is a bug or some issue with the code that requires an update or a fix, this community has to wait for DASH developers to act? Or am I misunderstanding this?

I am looking for clarity on this myself...but, from what I understand this is the reason for the delay...I suppose it makes sense, as a fork....this is also true of say

Litecoin and Bitcoin ..in that litecoin is a fork...I suppose it depends on how open DASH devs are with Helium devs....on keeping them in the loop..it is not a big

deal with LTC and BTC but it may be a big deal for DASH devs just not liking forks like Helium or something.

But yeah, clarity on the holdup, a timeline on the supposed 'fix' needed by dash devs ....would be helpful..even if it is just a 'ballpark' this summer of 2018 as a guess



So Dash has 3 security bugs that were discovered during the bounty. Dash has a large development team to fix those bugs. Helium has been financed out of pocket by the developers. Since Helium does not yet have the funds to hire a large development team, they were waiting for Dash to release the update to save months of development time and costs.

 Things have changed though, from what I understand, Helium will launch soon but remain Dash compatible until after the security patch can be added. Then it will branch out. Helium needs to gain steam so the Treasury can start funding a core development team.


After the 'branch out' will it still be x11 mineable? Or by 'branch out' you mean it will go POS coin or something? (I plan to mine this coin if possible with x11 miner)



 That will be decided by the Masternodes. Given that POW is a dead end, I imagine it will go POS eventually, or something else if new tech arises. But that is not on the roadmap at the moment. I think many of us are hoping to revolutionize development speed, transaction speed, and the services offered by the platform. It's been discussed modifying the governance to make it more dynamic, but changes need to be approved by the Masternodes. So early on is a critical time, w can only hope that a stagnant culture doesn't develop within the governance.

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March 15, 2018, 11:17:59 PM
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I can have understanding for slow start, but I received today mail from Cryptopia about unsuccessful login attempt. It says that after third one, account will be locked. Advice is using exclusive e-mail address for Cryptopia.
Too much time passed, not knowing how long it will take more. Give us any kind of wallet (paper one is good enough) to move the coins from exchange. It is bad practice keeping them so long there.

Cryptopia only locks for 24 hours, I've done it before.

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March 16, 2018, 12:38:24 AM
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link on HOW to get masternodes when it happens again please (or at least the process)


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link on HOW to get masternodes when it happens again please (or at least the process)



This is the info on it right now: https://www.heliumlabs.org/v1.0/docs/an-introduction-to-masternodes
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March 16, 2018, 04:48:26 AM
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link on HOW to get masternodes when it happens again please (or at least the process)



This is the info on it right now: https://www.heliumlabs.org/v1.0/docs/an-introduction-to-masternodes


bit confused...how the heck do you get 1,000 HLM to run a masternode, if there is no HLM yet? (befuddled)

So do you setup up the masternode FIRST in some manner and THEN when HLM hits ..fund it after the fact? (in order for them to keep track of nodes?)

thanks...

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edit: ok Spreadcoin? or has this ship sailed?



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March 16, 2018, 06:02:40 AM
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link on HOW to get masternodes when it happens again please (or at least the process)



This is the info on it right now: https://www.heliumlabs.org/v1.0/docs/an-introduction-to-masternodes


bit confused...how the heck do you get 1,000 HLM to run a masternode, if there is no HLM yet? (befuddled)

So do you setup up the masternode FIRST in some manner and THEN when HLM hits ..fund it after the fact? (in order for them to keep track of nodes?)

thanks...

brad


edit: ok Spreadcoin? or has this ship sailed?




Brad, the airdrop happened some time last year. If you held SPR in a wallet you'd get the same HLM at some point. I missed the boat, too. I found out about this effort about a month late. The only way to get in would be to buy HLM on an exchange when they launch the coin. I'm hoping it won't be too high, because I really want some masternodes myself.

They're still working on specifics on the whole thing, but if it is similar to SPR masternodes then this guide may offer some guidance on how it might look like: http://spreadcointalk.org/index.php?topic=106.0

hope this helps some.
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March 16, 2018, 11:16:26 AM
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It's alive  Shocked

From what I understand ..this coin is based on DASH ..thus they are waiting for the Dev's of DASH to make some fixes to the code

before they move on and release Helium? Is that the crux of the issue now? If so anyone have any idea of a timeline just on the DASH fix?

thanks, just trying to put this in some kind of perspective/timeline

brad


Isn't this a really bad sign for HELIUM itself then? Whenever there is a bug or some issue with the code that requires an update or a fix, this community has to wait for DASH developers to act? Or am I misunderstanding this?

I am looking for clarity on this myself...but, from what I understand this is the reason for the delay...I suppose it makes sense, as a fork....this is also true of say

Litecoin and Bitcoin ..in that litecoin is a fork...I suppose it depends on how open DASH devs are with Helium devs....on keeping them in the loop..it is not a big

deal with LTC and BTC but it may be a big deal for DASH devs just not liking forks like Helium or something.

But yeah, clarity on the holdup, a timeline on the supposed 'fix' needed by dash devs ....would be helpful..even if it is just a 'ballpark' this summer of 2018 as a guess



If you take Litecoin I don't think they are in any way dependent on the development of Bitcoin. In fact they are much quicker when it comes to implementation of new features. That's why they are also called something like a testnet for Bitcoin. There is a different mutual interest in LTC and BTC than in Dash and Helium I believe.

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March 16, 2018, 03:04:22 PM
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Just so you all are aware and can have a voice there is a debate on the Slack channel on whether to move to PIVX or follow the DASH codebase. Currently, just about everyone has voted for PIVX. If you feel strongly either way then head over there and voice your opinion.
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March 18, 2018, 12:08:35 PM
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link on HOW to get masternodes when it happens again please (or at least the process)



 Will do, it will be compatible with Dash or PivX, depending on which wins the vote. Here's my summary (with my opinion) of the current debate.



 There is an active vote to move to Discord, Discord is winning by a landslide. There will be a vote in the coming days, the questions are:

 Fork Dash, deal with patented, centralized updates that could take forever. Helium should not remain compatible with Dash long enough to even get 1 security update. Dash is POW.

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 Fork PivX and get a less proven tech, but faster speeds out the door, little risk of centralization and a wallet that is more advanced. IE: Treasury proposals and Masternode voting from the wallet.

My take:

POW will never scale, it will always be wasteful and no one really benefits from it except ASIC manufacturers. The age old question, spend my money on mining equipment or buy coins. Well, in the history of crypto, buying coins flat out has always been  the better choice. POW will attrack negative media attention for wasting electricity and is vulnerable to a 51% attack.

POS solves the entry level dilemma, buying coins is mining. You PC will process transaction (or VPS) the way Satoshi Nakamoto intended. You earn rewards staking until you have enough for a Masternode, then you can move to that for more rights and income. POS is more secure against a 51% attack, you can't just control 51% of the hash power (like Bitmain could), you have to own 51% of the coins, which becomes impossible. POS has no mining pools to sabotage software upgrades, that is BTCs biggest flaw.

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March 18, 2018, 05:37:13 PM
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That gives much more of an insight into how far along and how well planned this project is. Considering this is now at least a full quarter late to launch and was announced over a year ago, to say this is disappointing is an understatement. This should all have been dealt with at the planning stage before the coin was announced.
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That gives much more of an insight into how far along and how well planned this project is. Considering this is now at least a full quarter late to launch and was announced over a year ago, to say this is disappointing is an understatement. This should all have been dealt with at the planning stage before the coin was announced.

Dash was the settled fork in the beginning. Since then, a lot has come to lite about Dash code. I can't tell you what happened to the testnet from fall, there was some work done by coins101 in the Dash github. But the debate to change to PivX is due to more recent developments. gj is handling the technical side of the launch and is very capable, a realistic plan to implement service nodes is in place and some of us have other proposals to put forward to increase the usefulness of the network.

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March 21, 2018, 07:01:38 PM
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I'll be setting up a few nodes. I vote for the PIVX clone with the zerocoin. This is working well for PHR, RUPX, WGR, etc. Either is fine though! Glad to see this coin is alive - been anticipating this for quite some time.

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March 21, 2018, 07:36:39 PM
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Just so you all are aware and can have a voice there is a debate on the Slack channel on whether to move to PIVX or follow the DASH codebase. Currently, just about everyone has voted for PIVX. If you feel strongly either way then head over there and voice your opinion.

Ffs will the outcome of this decision impact the price of either of them? PIVX has a leg over DASH in regard to auto-adjustability of mn earnings and maybe team is not that cracked up in comparison with dash team who forget their own names in endless pursuit of cheap coins yielded through price manipulation.
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March 21, 2018, 08:18:53 PM
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Thanks Krister and the team for the update on the site. Sad to see gjhiggins go, but thanks a lot for all you did Cheesy

I am happy to read we are getting more dev-power on board, something that is desperately needed at this time. I won't lie, I was rather shocked to learn that a discussion was coming up whether to fork off Dash or PIVX that late in development, I thought a lot of code was written already. If I do understand things correctly, we are starting with a 1:1 clone of PIVX and implement some kind of layer-2 network like Lightning on top of it. And this also means we would be launching soon-ish?
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Thanks Krister and the team for the update on the site. Sad to see gjhiggins go, but thanks a lot for all you did Cheesy

I am happy to read we are getting more dev-power on board, something that is desperately needed at this time. I won't lie, I was rather shocked to learn that a discussion was coming up whether to fork off Dash or PIVX that late in development, I thought a lot of code was written already. If I do understand things correctly, we are starting with a 1:1 clone of PIVX and implement some kind of layer-2 network like Lightning on top of it. And this also means we would be launching soon-ish?

PivX is officially announced. The second layer will be service nodes. I have my own project hopes that I will present to the community to see if there is any interest. I wouldn't be the one implementing it so feasibility would be a factor. Soonish for sure, only a few issues with Bittrex wallets and reimbursement to the core team to deal with. Almost time for lunch.

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