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“These women are working as slaves in the fields and we know they are blackmailed to have sex with the owners of the farms or greenhouses because of their psychological subjugation,” he says. “It is not easy to investigate or stop this from happening, as the women are mostly too afraid to speak out.”
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The huge rise in the number of Romanian women seeking abortions in Sicily is also alarming medical professionals and human rights groups. According to Proxyma, while Romanian women make up only 4% of the female population of Ragusa province, they account for 20% of registered abortions.

“The numbers of abortions among Romanian women is very alarming,” says Ausilia Cosentini, coordinator of the Fari project, which provides assistance for Romanian women at a clinic. She says that many of the women coming to seek abortions were accompanied by their employers or other Italian men. “While you clearly can’t conclude that all these pregnancies are the result of sexual violence or fear of losing their work, the high number of abortions in relation to the few thousand Romanian women in the province has to be taken very seriously.”

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Police say they believe that up to 7,500 women, the majority of whom are Romanian, are living in slavery on farms across the region. Guido Volpe, a commander in the carabinieri military police in Sicily, told the Observer that Ragusa was the centre of exploitation on the island.

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“Where I come from in Romanian Moldavia, nobody has a job,” says Bolos, as she nurses her five-month-old daughter in a dark warehouse that is now her home on another farm in Ragusa province. “The average salary there is €200 a month. Here you can make much more, even if you need to suffer.”

The Observer spoke to 10 Romanian women working on farms in Ragusa. All detailed routine sexual assault and exploitation, including working 12-hour days in extreme heat with no water, non-payment of wages and being forced to live in degrading and unsanitary conditions in isolated outbuildings. Their working days often include physical violence, being threatened with weapons and being blackmailed with threats to their children and family.

From April 2014 in Italian which I don't speak http://www.meltingpot.org/Le-donne-delle-serre.html#.WMoyUjvysdU

From July 2013 in Italian http://www.meltingpot.org/Due-volte-sfruttate-Le-donne-rumene-nella-fascia.html#.WMoxiTsrIdU
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2) Women who work in the greenhouses: between exploitation and sexual blackmail

In addition to the different "power" within the agricultural production system of the territory, and in addition to their membership of the European Union, there is another key difference between the Romanian workers and their "colleagues" in North Africa: most migrants from Romania to work in the Ragusa greenhouses are women.
If elsewhere women immigrants from the former Soviet bloc are as "natural" target, in the context of ethnic and gender segmentation of the labor market, to serve in the Italian homes, becoming the so-called "domestic workers and caregivers" of which our country from collapsing welfare badly needs, these women come here already knowing that the wait for the campaign.
What is less clear is whether they already before leaving to be aware, to the end, even the working conditions they will encounter and the ambiguous and murky reality in which their work appears structurally inserted.

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Father Benjamin speaks bluntly of so-called " agricultural feasts ", he was the first to publicly denounce:

" It is real parties sexual in which the owners and employers shall share with friends and acquaintances to his female employees. The feasts are widespread especially in small family farms, because the big companies are more controlled. Take place between the greenhouses themselves, or in isolated farmsteads, or sometimes even in low traffic disco-bar. The girls involved are young Romanian workers who often have 20 to 24 years. Sometimes it is also about girls daughters of employees to whom the owner rents the farmhouse. Every so often it happens that they are the children of the owners to exploit them. Once you enter this ride it is difficult to get out. There is a family network or strong friendship in support of these women, and there are no ties of solidarity between workers, a bit 'for the segregation which they are forced, a bit' for the competition triggered by the same employers that trigger a kind of competition with each other out of desperation . "

The basic problem is what a group of people accepts as a proper way to treat outsiders. Italy makes itself a 3rd world country, destroys its future, by accepting that when a foreigner goes there to work they are game for any predation.

The general trend in civilized society is towards treating outsiders with the same rights as natives, Italy falls.

The solution is either to try to civilize Italy or to offer the victims some opportunity out.

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This has been going on for a while and so far nobody has found a solutions that works.

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“The women are telling us they need to migrate to try to ensure their children are not living in complete poverty in Romania, but that they themselves are being forced to endure terrible conditions and abuse as a result,” she says. “There is no other work, the women told us, so in order to provice for their families they felt they had to accept this deal. It is a conscious choice they are having to make. What we witnessed is nothing less than forced labour and trafficking as defined by the United Nations International Labour Organisation.”
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March 16, 2017, 11:20:57 AM
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Italy is the capital of sexual slavery in Western Europe. In the mafia infested regions of Sicily and Calabria, the situation is alarming. It is not only the Romanian girls who are being trafficked. Large numbers of women from Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, and Nigeria end up getting gang-raped there.

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March 18, 2017, 07:23:30 PM
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This is just sad. Is this happening all over Italy or just Sicily? I have a relative working in northern Italy, I don't hear stories about this. They complain though about house robbers and pickpockets from Eastern Europe.

I wonder what they are doing to stop this. Definitely human trafficking with groups abroad working with those inside Italy. These women probably expected to find decent work there only to find out they'll end up in brothels and other stuff. Sorta reminded me of how women here in SE Asia are being trafficked to the Middle East. They get there, find themselves locked up basically as house slaves and then later dumped without even being paid.

Maybe we should get the word out there. Italy is currently no good place to stay. My aunt said several business were closing (one of her former employers already lost her businesses). She herself has been through different employers already. Some of our countrymen there have already been unemployed for some time and some (well, even the natives themselves) are already committing suicide.
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March 18, 2017, 07:43:23 PM
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Italy is the capital of sexual slavery in Western Europe. In the mafia infested regions of Sicily and Calabria, the situation is alarming. It is not only the Romanian girls who are being trafficked. Large numbers of women from Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, and Nigeria end up getting gang-raped there.
The majority of prostitutes are trafficked through Italy to other countries. In Italy it's not so bad. Abortion among Romanians do not speak about rape, they're often looking for partners in order to obtain a stable life.
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March 19, 2017, 12:01:15 AM
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Abortion among Romanians do not speak about rape, they're often looking for partners in order to obtain a stable life.

Of course for women intrinsically the focus is on resources with which to feed a family. In complex society that means money to buy food. Forcing women to resort to trading sex for resources damages a society, whether you blame the man or the woman.

Rape is a word that evolves. Most people in mixed society, places where cultures have clashed, resort to a primitive transaction to some extent. A smart person should notice this, realize the price and try to make it visible.

Some basic constants never change. When people are forced to retreat in evolution, and use tactics that have already been shown harmful, it is not necessary to force the lesson.
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March 19, 2017, 12:27:22 AM
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Until everything happens by agreement of the parties this should not worry anyone. I think adults will understand. It's nature when a woman seeks a rich man who will provide her and the children.
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Until everything happens by agreement of the parties this should not worry anyone. I think adults will understand. It's nature when a woman seeks a rich man who will provide her and the children.

Would you want your daughter to marry any man that could afford her? And if no wealthy man wants to buy her then should her children be hungry?
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This is a billion annual dollar industry. Human trafficking affects a lot of people globally and are trafficked for many reasons like hard or forced labor and sexual exploitation. Men ofter in hard labor jobs, while women and children in prostitution or other forms of sexual exploitation.

Most likely, it was controlled by the Mafia, in Italy. Yes it is illegal in almost every country in the world. But why do it still exists in the 21th century? Simple because of widespread corruption and greed of local politicians to quickly and easily earn money in their pocket. Though national and international institutions may attempt to regulate and enforce anti-trafficking legislation, local governments and police forces may in fact be participating in sex trafficking rings.




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March 19, 2017, 01:31:03 PM
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This is a billion annual dollar industry. Human trafficking affects a lot of people globally and are trafficked for many reasons like hard or forced labor and sexual exploitation. Men ofter in hard labor jobs, while women and children in prostitution or other forms of sexual exploitation.

Most likely, it was controlled by the Mafia, in Italy. Yes it is illegal in almost every country in the world. But why do it still exists in the 21th century? Simple because of widespread corruption and greed of local politicians to quickly and easily earn money in their pocket. Though national and international institutions may attempt to regulate and enforce anti-trafficking legislation, local governments and police forces may in fact be participating in sex trafficking rings.





Of course the politicians and police support certain things that get them a payoff. But if something is acceptable to the general community then it is not enforceable anyway. In a very strong society you would not see stuff like that because people would not tolerate it. If Italians in general support it though then there is not much to do except wait for the next war. It's not a sign of a strong society. Maybe Italy will be consumed.
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Italy is the capital of sexual slavery in Western Europe. In the mafia infested regions of Sicily and Calabria, the situation is alarming. It is not only the Romanian girls who are being trafficked. Large numbers of women from Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, and Nigeria end up getting gang-raped there.
The majority of prostitutes are trafficked through Italy to other countries. In Italy it's not so bad. Abortion among Romanians do not speak about rape, they're often looking for partners in order to obtain a stable life.

If the sex was consensual, then there was no need for abortions. Then women may have used birth control. But here it seems that in the majority of the instances, the sex was not consensual. After all, how can you call married Italian men in their 50s and 60s as partners of these women, who are mostly in their 20s.   

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March 19, 2017, 06:35:41 PM
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Italy is the capital of sexual slavery in Western Europe. In the mafia infested regions of Sicily and Calabria, the situation is alarming. It is not only the Romanian girls who are being trafficked. Large numbers of women from Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, and Nigeria end up getting gang-raped there.
The majority of prostitutes are trafficked through Italy to other countries. In Italy it's not so bad. Abortion among Romanians do not speak about rape, they're often looking for partners in order to obtain a stable life.

If the sex was consensual, then there was no need for abortions. Then women may have used birth control. But here it seems that in the majority of the instances, the sex was not consensual. After all, how can you call married Italian men in their 50s and 60s as partners of these women, who are mostly in their 20s.   
Not all women and men think about contraception. Abortion is quite a common phenomenon in many countries. As for the difference in the age, the richer one spouse is the younger half of it.
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If you don't control your lust you are nothing but an animal of the nature you will get nothing in the afterlife, you can believe what you want.
It matters if you are in a room with a young and beautiful girl and her being defenseless against you, if you can control yourself and never abuse her sexually unless she consents to have intercourse with you, that is what really matters.
Stories such as this are not anything new unfortunately and happens all around the world from the dawn of humanity.

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If you don't control your lust you are nothing but an animal of the nature you will get nothing in the afterlife, you can believe what you want.
It matters if you are in a room with a young and beautiful girl and her being defenseless against you, if you can control yourself and never abuse her sexually unless she consents to have intercourse with you, that is what really matters.
Stories such as this are not anything new unfortunately and happens all around the world from the dawn of humanity.
I do not understand people who rape women. I think it's sick perverts. They are not so much satisfying sex as an opportunity to bully a defenseless woman. This is very bad, but in many situations, women themselves provoke criminals.
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Italy is the capital of sexual slavery in Western Europe. In the mafia infested regions of Sicily and Calabria, the situation is alarming. It is not only the Romanian girls who are being trafficked. Large numbers of women from Poland, Ukraine, Moldova, and Nigeria end up getting gang-raped there.
The majority of prostitutes are trafficked through Italy to other countries. In Italy it's not so bad. Abortion among Romanians do not speak about rape, they're often looking for partners in order to obtain a stable life.

If the sex was consensual, then there was no need for abortions. Then women may have used birth control. But here it seems that in the majority of the instances, the sex was not consensual. After all, how can you call married Italian men in their 50s and 60s as partners of these women, who are mostly in their 20s.   
Not all women and men think about contraception. Abortion is quite a common phenomenon in many countries. As for the difference in the age, the richer one spouse is the younger half of it.

How can you label these men as "spouses"? They have their own families. They even have grandchildren of their own, and despite that they rape multiple Romanian girls. For me, these men are rapists, and not spouses.

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If you don't control your lust you are nothing but an animal of the nature you will get nothing in the afterlife, you can believe what you want.
It matters if you are in a room with a young and beautiful girl and her being defenseless against you, if you can control yourself and never abuse her sexually unless she consents to have intercourse with you, that is what really matters.
Stories such as this are not anything new unfortunately and happens all around the world from the dawn of humanity.
I do not understand people who rape women. I think it's sick perverts. They are not so much satisfying sex as an opportunity to bully a defenseless woman. This is very bad, but in many situations, women themselves provoke criminals.

To be honest, this is the culture that misogyny has bred, over all these years that we have been civilized. It was much worse back in the day, when the rule of law couldn't protect citizens like it does now, and penalties for rape weren't as harsh. Now, we normalize rape on television, media teaches our sons to be aggressive and dismissive against females, and it's teaches ohr daughters to accept that bullshit from males. It will take a complete overhaul of contemporary gender attitudes, around the entire globe, before we see any progress with shit like this. To be honest, it will get much, much worse before it gets better.
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If you don't control your lust you are nothing but an animal of the nature you will get nothing in the afterlife, you can believe what you want.
It matters if you are in a room with a young and beautiful girl and her being defenseless against you, if you can control yourself and never abuse her sexually unless she consents to have intercourse with you, that is what really matters.
Stories such as this are not anything new unfortunately and happens all around the world from the dawn of humanity.
I do not understand people who rape women. I think it's sick perverts. They are not so much satisfying sex as an opportunity to bully a defenseless woman. This is very bad, but in many situations, women themselves provoke criminals.

To be honest, this is the culture that misogyny has bred, over all these years that we have been civilized. It was much worse back in the day, when the rule of law couldn't protect citizens like it does now, and penalties for rape weren't as harsh. Now, we normalize rape on television, media teaches our sons to be aggressive and dismissive against females, and it's teaches ohr daughters to accept that bullshit from males. It will take a complete overhaul of contemporary gender attitudes, around the entire globe, before we see any progress with shit like this. To be honest, it will get much, much worse before it gets better.

I can't agree with your statement. In most of the Western nations, the TV programs are full of leftist-liberal and radical feminist propaganda. In the third world, the situation might be the opposite, but I am not too much sure about it.

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