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November 21, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
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How can a service like this compete with free?

Through increasing a price!

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November 21, 2010, 09:14:33 PM
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* kiba hopes to get people to download his stuff and get commission for bitcoin.

Nice picture =))

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November 21, 2010, 09:38:45 PM
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Economic Advantage of a micropay download site:

1. No Turing test that reject you even if you're a human.
2. No waiting 15 seconds to download.
3. No FRICKING ANNOYING ADS.
4. No bittorrent seeds fail.

Suggestions:

1. Keep it simple and fast to download site. Should be 3 seconds, MINIMUM. The longest process should be the DOWNLOADING OF CONTENT.
2. No ads please. No content to distract us from the act of downloading.
3. Make it easy to find new content to download while without contradicting #1 and #2. Advertise good uploaders on your front page.
4. Keep ANONYMOUS uploading, no account. An uploader should be able to try the service without registering, visiting his email account, etc.

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November 21, 2010, 09:44:41 PM
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Kiba, thank you for suggestions.

I plan to keep anonymous upload but add accounts in order to speedup downloads since currently it take 10-20 minutes to download file since it take this much time to get  atleqast one confirmation of transaction (and I am really not comfortable with just one confirmation too)

If this going to take off - I think about some sort of ratings or something to show on front page. Tagging as well.

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November 21, 2010, 09:46:29 PM
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Just accept 0 confirmations and run Bitcoin with -maxconnections=50. It's not a lot of money, and attacks against this are difficult.

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November 21, 2010, 09:48:50 PM
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BTW, I think you got the upload incentives NAILED. I uploaded a picture, get INSTANT feedback of how much my picture is worth.

.03 BTC in commission for .02 payment. w00t.

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November 21, 2010, 09:53:35 PM
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Hippch,

File will expire 22 November, 2010 at 9:50. Expiration date will be automatically extended when someone successfully download this file.

For what time zone?

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November 21, 2010, 09:58:26 PM
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Test my hallucinogenic picture, please:

http://ub.yepcorp.com/file/download/10

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November 21, 2010, 10:00:25 PM
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Just accept 0 confirmations and run Bitcoin with -maxconnections=50. It's not a lot of money, and attacks against this are difficult.

Actually, this is one of the way I thought to do it. But I will need to implement a "queue" which will look for confirmations and do comission payments only when payment confirmed 6 times.

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November 21, 2010, 10:01:22 PM
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Hippch,

File will expire 22 November, 2010 at 9:50. Expiration date will be automatically extended when someone successfully download this file.

For what time zone?

UTC. If someone downloaded file in 6 hours before expiration, expiration date moved to 6 hours from last download. So it keep purging junk files from my S3 account.

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November 21, 2010, 10:14:46 PM
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I think the benefits of not requiring an account are obvious.

But the benefits of optional accounts should not be overlooked. From the upload side it allows reputations to build. I don't want to buy a fake Kiba after all. There may be other ways to solve this, but an account is one easy way.

And from the download side it would be nice to have credit on account as a convenience. Then you wouldn't have to worry about confirm time at all. If prices rise for some content you will not want to take 0 confirms, if my understanding is correct this is a risk not only because of double spends, but also issues like those non confirming coins, etc.

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November 21, 2010, 10:18:18 PM
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A "paid" account would be a download buffet. 5 BTC would provide like 250 downloads.(as well, upload)

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November 21, 2010, 10:43:00 PM
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A "paid" account would be a download buffet. 5 BTC would provide like 250 downloads.(as well, upload)

Agreed, that is another benefit. You don't have to go to the client 250 times and send to 250 different addresses.

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November 21, 2010, 10:49:24 PM
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Test my hallucinogenic picture, please:

http://ub.yepcorp.com/file/download/10


WOW. This is weird image!!!!

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November 22, 2010, 01:43:45 AM
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I revisited the download link. It said "pag".

view-source:http://ub.yepcorp.com/file/download/8


It must have expired.

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November 22, 2010, 01:52:00 AM
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I revisited the download link. It said "pag".

view-source:http://ub.yepcorp.com/file/download/8


It must have expired.

Hm. I will check. At least after my download it should extend time till expiration. And it's definitely passed less 6 hours before expiration.

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November 22, 2010, 01:52:54 AM
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Hm. I will check. At least after my download it should extend time till expiration. And it's definitely passed less 6 hours before expiration.

How many hours does a download typically add?

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November 22, 2010, 01:57:00 AM
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It should add 6. But looks like it didn't, since passed only 5 hours between my download and your report.

I am working on implementing 0 confirmation download revision right now (it will allow immediate downloads, but will keep paying commission until 6 confirmation received). Will take care about expired files too. keep tuned =)

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November 22, 2010, 01:57:56 AM
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It should add 6. But looks like it didn't, since passed only 5 hours between my download and your report.

I am working on implementing 0 confirmation download revision right now (it will allow immediate downloads, but will keep paying commission until 6 confirmation received). Will take care about expired files too. keep tuned =)

There's been 5 transaction that I counted. So that's about 30 hours. More than day worth of time.

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November 22, 2010, 02:28:18 AM
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It do not add up, but looks if there is less then 6 hours left and set expiration datetime to NOW() + 6 hours. I will change this to 24 hours and in future will look into more sophisticated way of controlling file expiration.

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