Seasteading

[franky1]

Elwar is probably the best guy for seasteading. He's approximately the only person along with Nadia to have ever done it out in the ocean. If there are others, they are very few. Elwar's experience is beyond just about anybody else.

he and nadia didnt 'do it' they were in their own words just guests on someone elses floating pod

infact in the time from its first night at sea to the night they fled. they didnt even stay there that much in between. so it was not really even a trial of a living experience.

take those training for mars missions. they actually stay in a 'biodome' for months. to work out if they can survive(mentally and physicallly) and what is actually needed to make it a effective living experience.
all in all they just had a free vacation bed to sleep in.

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here is one thing. elwar has not identified how hard it is to actually supply a pod. after all knowing he might have to travel many dozens of miles round trip would require extra refrigeration. and also stockpiles of spare clothing/bedsheets and other things. just incase you cant get to shore for resupply.
he has not even thought about those basics.

yet even a idiot during this pandemic should realise the issues that occur when suddenly travel and access to certain stores can become less available.

anyway
there are thousands of people around the world that live on floating homes. thousands that live on moored dwellings in the water. heck many live on oil refineries.. and there is even things like freeland and other things.
elwar has not invented anything new. infact he isnt the inventor. and while trying to flip flip in and out of his inability to decide if he is a project manager or salesman. he fails at both.

even elwar has said he didnt invent it and is not the ceo. yet your lack of ability to grasp reality is still struck by the 'wannabe influencer' fangirling mindset

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the reasons i make these posts is to make people wary of the pitfulls of certain things. because its become obvious that there is too much glossing over the details.
and in my opinion no one should be handing any money via elwar. he will just spend it on vacations but declare it as 'research'

if anyone is interested in sea steading. bypass elwar and actually investigate and research those actually doing it.who are not obsessed with grabbing money before even a prototype is made

[BADecker]

Elwar is probably the best guy for seasteading. He's approximately the only person along with Nadia to have ever done it out in the ocean. If there are others, they are very few. Elwar's experience is beyond just about anybody else.

he and nadia didnt 'do it' they were in their own words just guests on someone elses floating pod

Of course Elwar did it. He went to the iron ore fields of northern Minnesota, ate iron ore for breakfast, lunch, and supper everyday for years, and pooped out the metal that he used to make the spar.


Since you don't really have any idea what living on a seastead is really like, you are jealous. Me franky1. Me good. Me very good. Me better than everyone. Me so good that everyone else bad. This why I flap duck bill so much.

[franky1]

in my life i have travelled to many countries. and lived in many different types of dwellings and experienced many cultures.
elwar couldnt even get his teeth fixed until recently

no jealousy at all. im just making people wary of certain things promoted by certain people, where what they say is full of flaws and limited knowledge

when elwar has to pull details about toilets from a blog post. and not from any business plan or specification sheet in the actual head quarters. where even then the blog post is non specific.. it shows how unprepared his promotion is

its like asking a real estate agent how many windows a house has and what type of windows. and they just pull out a blog post of random window types and say 'um we might just pick up whatever one we can find at a store.. we will find out later when we hire window experts'

kinda loses confidence that they even know much about building. let alone actually have a house to sell

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we already know by now that elwars ploy is the tourist vacation market. because thats what the locals that let them in the area want. they dont want a whole new community of outsiders living their permanently. as it will take their livelihoods away.. they want vacation spots where they can work on them.

but he still tries to subtly hint at the 'seasteading' (its your home on the sea). yet has priced it out of both markets before even thinking about the end user or even the living experience.

$10k a week. is a mega laugh even for las vegas prices

[BADecker]

in my life i have travelled to many countries. and lived in many different types of dwellings and experienced many cultures.
elwar couldnt even get his teeth fixed until recently

no jealousy at all. im just making people wary of certain things promoted by certain people, where what they say is full of flaws and limited knowledge

when elwar has to pull details about toilets from a blog post. and not from any business plan or specification sheet in the actual head quarters. where even then the blog post is non specific.. it shows how unprepared his promotion is

its like asking a real estate agent how many windows a house has and what type of windows. and they just pull out a blog post of random window types and say 'um we might just pick up whatever one we can find at a store.. we will find out later when we hire window experts'

kinda loses confidence that they even know much about building. let alone actually have a house to sell

..
we already know by now that elwars ploy is the tourist vacation market. because thats what the locals that let them in the area want. they dont want a whole new community of outsiders living their permanently. as it will take their livelihoods away.. they want vacation spots where they can work on them.

but he still tries to subtly hint at the 'seasteading' (its your home on the sea). yet has priced it out of both markets before even thinking about the end user or even the living experience.

$10k a week. is a mega laugh even for las vegas prices

I can't tell you that Elwar doesn't lie. All people tell lies or twist the truth a little here and there. That being said...

What I CAN tell you is, in the same way you trust that other people have truly found a Covid-19 without doing the research yourself, so we all can see that Elwar was a seasteader.

Unless he screwed you personally, all your badmouthing of him is unethical. If he screwed you badly enough, pursue litigation in an international court of law. If he didn't screw you that bad, get over it. He's just a guy trying to start a business like many of us.

We have successes in life, and we have failures. But Elwar's successes are kinda dynamic. Looks like you are jealous.

[franky1]

ive never needed to beg using investment schemes to cover the costs of my vacations.
seems you are a scammer defender..
but hey that just makes you look bad

[Elwar]

I see franky1 continues calling me a scammer.

Whichever, slander away if it makes you feel good about yourself.

Actions are what we rely on. I would certainly not encourage someone to buy a seapod without first coming down and seeing for yourself firsthand what we are doing here. As several people already have.

Anyone is welcome (once the lockdown is lifted).

[BADecker]

ive never needed to beg using investment schemes to cover the costs of my vacations.
seems you are a scammer defender..
but hey that just makes you look bad

Investment companies are the norm.
Thieves don't beg, either.
You absolutely need defending.
Right. It doesn't pay to defend you, though I try at times.

[BADecker]

Elwar. Does it pay to make a Seasteading altcoin to get seasteading moving faster?

[Tash]

Elwar. Does it pay to make a Seasteading altcoin to get seasteading moving faster?

I doubt it
On way forward would be to have operational Seaweed farms, have generating income other than tourism.
Ideally all food consumed daily should have a total potential renal (kidney) acid load of about -2.
Tried seaweed is on of the lowest values and a great way to archive a healthy balanced died.
Oysters, steamed

-----------------------------------	PRAL value mEq/100mg
Seaweed, dried	-24,7
Seaweed, pickled	-4,2
Seaweed, raw	-3,6
Seaweed,  with soy sauce	-2,2
.
Apple	-2
.
Oysters, canned	1,9
Jellyfish, pickled	3,3
Mackerel, salted	5,1
Clams, smoked, in oil	5,6
Lobster, cooked	7,7
Crab, hard shell, steamed	8,4
Salmon, baked or broiled	12,7
Sardines, canned in oil	15,9
Trout, smoked	18,8
Shrimp, dried	32,4
Squid, dried	35,5

The most alkaline I know of is Marmite/Vegemite...with -41.9   and dried or dehydrated Chives -50.6
The most acidic I know of is Cheese, (Parmesan) 20-34.2 and  Gelatin powder, dietetic, sweetened with low calorie sweetener, dry with a value of 55.1

[Febo]

I saw a tweet that Tesla plans to launch its rockets from a seastead in the future.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1272972228326379520


SpaceX is building floating, superheavy-class spaceports for Mars, moon & hypersonic travel around Earth


There will be close to shore I guess but should be massive and hopefully will make some research/development that will also help seasteaders.

[bits4books]

Any such experiment breaks down from this freedom for all. You built your community, then your neighbors came and captured you, enslaved you, or sold you to other neighbors. What will you do? "The FBI please help??»? All your libertarianism is based on the utopian idea of absolute freedom and is broken down by the oldest "right of the strong". I'm sorry but it's true.

[franky1]

Any such experiment breaks down from this freedom for all. You built your community, then your neighbors came and captured you, enslaved you, or sold you to other neighbors. What will you do? "The FBI please help??»? All your libertarianism is based on the utopian idea of absolute freedom and is broken down by the oldest "right of the strong". I'm sorry but it's true.

yep.
i said this years ago. he wanted communities that agreed on laws..
funny part is disagreements happen
he replied people can just move away
funny part is. his pods are stuck on poles moored to the sea floor
he had a argument with thai authorities and couldnt simple just move the pod.. he ran away instead

he then replied nonsense.. as he lost grasp of the idea, denying the initial idea was even a thing he was involved in

then he started a new project and hinted to the original plan
then he started another project thats just going to be tourist villa's at $10k a week

[BADecker]

Elwar is probably the best guy for seasteading. He's approximately the only person along with Nadia to have ever done it out in the ocean. If there are others, they are very few. Elwar's experience is beyond just about anybody else.

he and nadia didnt 'do it' they were in their own words just guests on someone elses floating pod

Thank you for saying that they did it. I mean, did the owner live on his own seastead? I don't really care who the owner is. Elwar and Nadia lived on the seastead. So, they did it. When you get all twisted up in what you say and think like that, how is anybody supposed to understand what you are even talking about?

infact in the time from its first night at sea to the night they fled. they didnt even stay there that much in between. so it was not really even a trial of a living experience.

take those training for mars missions. they actually stay in a 'biodome' for months. to work out if they can survive(mentally and physicallly) and what is actually needed to make it a effective living experience.
all in all they just had a free vacation bed to sleep in.

Now you are trying to say that Elwar and Nadia didn't even live on the seastead. We have videos. Did they really fake those videos? Are those videos animated cartoon videos? Were they dead as they walked around on the seastead? You sound like you don't like Elwar for some reason. I don't even want to know why.

...
here is one thing. elwar has not identified how hard it is to actually supply a pod. after all knowing he might have to travel many dozens of miles round trip would require extra refrigeration. and also stockpiles of spare clothing/bedsheets and other things. just incase you cant get to shore for resupply.
he has not even thought about those basics.

Lol! ... That's what I like about you, franky1. You are constantly in the brains of other people, knowing all about what they think. Are you some kind of super AI, that can determine from a person's few words, every possibility of what he might mean by his words, so that you absolutely know every thing that he thinks? Lol.

If you are really interested in buying a pod, aren't you going to go down to Panama and talk details with Elwar and the Ocean Builders company? I know. It's so easy to badmouth somebody for nothing. But you enjoy doing it, right?... maybe because it is easy to do, right?... and you like easy things, right?

yet even a idiot during this pandemic should realise the issues that occur when suddenly travel and access to certain stores can become less available.

anyway
there are thousands of people around the world that live on floating homes. thousands that live on moored dwellings in the water. heck many live on oil refineries.. and there is even things like freeland and other things.
elwar has not invented anything new. infact he isnt the inventor. and while trying to flip flip in and out of his inability to decide if he is a project manager or salesman. he fails at both.

even elwar has said he didnt invent it and is not the ceo. yet your lack of ability to grasp reality is still struck by the 'wannabe influencer' fangirling mindset

..
the reasons i make these posts is to make people wary of the pitfulls of certain things. because its become obvious that there is too much glossing over the details.
and in my opinion no one should be handing any money via elwar. he will just spend it on vacations but declare it as 'research'

if anyone is interested in sea steading. bypass elwar and actually investigate and research those actually doing it.who are not obsessed with grabbing money before even a prototype is made

Next time you want a car, don't go to a dealership and talk to the dealers about the benefits of the various vehicles. Rather, just go out and build you own car, thereby getting your own experience so you can find out what is factual. Lol.

franky1, you are such fun.

[bits4books]

Any such experiment breaks down from this freedom for all. You built your community, then your neighbors came and captured you, enslaved you, or sold you to other neighbors. What will you do? "The FBI please help??»? All your libertarianism is based on the utopian idea of absolute freedom and is broken down by the oldest "right of the strong". I'm sorry but it's true.

yep.
i said this years ago. he wanted communities that agreed on laws..
funny part is disagreements happen
he replied people can just move away
funny part is. his pods are stuck on poles moored to the sea floor
he had a argument with thai authorities and couldnt simple just move the pod.. he ran away instead

he then replied nonsense.. as he lost grasp of the idea, denying the initial idea was even a thing he was involved in

then he started a new project and hinted to the original plan
then he started another project thats just going to be tourist villa's at $10k a week

I noticed by the way that huge number of people in the crypto community have some wild bias towards libertarianism/anarcho-capitalism/anarchism. They think that if they gathered with friends put up three tents and now call themselves an INDEPENDENT COMMUNITY (lol) then no one will touch them. Sometimes it seems that such people are either joking or children 5 years old who built a castle in the courtyard of cardboard and no one broke it, which means (in their opinion) everything works in this world.

[BADecker]

Any such experiment breaks down from this freedom for all. You built your community, then your neighbors came and captured you, enslaved you, or sold you to other neighbors. What will you do? "The FBI please help??»? All your libertarianism is based on the utopian idea of absolute freedom and is broken down by the oldest "right of the strong". I'm sorry but it's true.

yep.
i said this years ago. he wanted communities that agreed on laws..
funny part is disagreements happen
he replied people can just move away
funny part is. his pods are stuck on poles moored to the sea floor
he had a argument with thai authorities and couldnt simple just move the pod.. he ran away instead

he then replied nonsense.. as he lost grasp of the idea, denying the initial idea was even a thing he was involved in

then he started a new project and hinted to the original plan
then he started another project thats just going to be tourist villa's at $10k a week

I noticed by the way that huge number of people in the crypto community have some wild bias towards libertarianism/anarcho-capitalism/anarchism. They think that if they gathered with friends put up three tents and now call themselves an INDEPENDENT COMMUNITY (lol) then no one will touch them. Sometimes it seems that such people are either joking or children 5 years old who built a castle in the courtyard of cardboard and no one broke it, which means (in their opinion) everything works in this world.

That's quite an idea you have. We'll need to ask Elwar if something like that is even a remote consideration. A seastead in the form of a courtyard with a castle in it for 5-y-o children.

You should really be more explicit. Most parents would like to be nearby their children. Would the parents have their own seastead? Or would they simply be living upstairs or down?

[bits4books]

Any such experiment breaks down from this freedom for all. You built your community, then your neighbors came and captured you, enslaved you, or sold you to other neighbors. What will you do? "The FBI please help??»? All your libertarianism is based on the utopian idea of absolute freedom and is broken down by the oldest "right of the strong". I'm sorry but it's true.

yep.
i said this years ago. he wanted communities that agreed on laws..
funny part is disagreements happen
he replied people can just move away
funny part is. his pods are stuck on poles moored to the sea floor
he had a argument with thai authorities and couldnt simple just move the pod.. he ran away instead

he then replied nonsense.. as he lost grasp of the idea, denying the initial idea was even a thing he was involved in

then he started a new project and hinted to the original plan
then he started another project thats just going to be tourist villa's at $10k a week

I noticed by the way that huge number of people in the crypto community have some wild bias towards libertarianism/anarcho-capitalism/anarchism. They think that if they gathered with friends put up three tents and now call themselves an INDEPENDENT COMMUNITY (lol) then no one will touch them. Sometimes it seems that such people are either joking or children 5 years old who built a castle in the courtyard of cardboard and no one broke it, which means (in their opinion) everything works in this world.

That's quite an idea you have. We'll need to ask Elwar if something like that is even a remote consideration. A seastead in the form of a courtyard with a castle in it for 5-y-o children.

You should really be more explicit. Most parents would like to be nearby their children. Would the parents have their own seastead? Or would they simply be living upstairs or down?

Parents will violate the principle of non-aggression, collapse your house and drive to home to eat broccoli and cauliflower 

[BADecker]

That's quite an idea you have. We'll need to ask Elwar if something like that is even a remote consideration. A seastead in the form of a courtyard with a castle in it for 5-y-o children.

You should really be more explicit. Most parents would like to be nearby their children. Would the parents have their own seastead? Or would they simply be living upstairs or down?

Parents will violate the principle of non-aggression, collapse your house and drive to home to eat broccoli and cauliflower  

The system under which parents live with regard to their children is different than the way they live with regard to other families.

If you want to sink your seastead, why collapse it? Just drill a few holes in the side of the underwater part. The idea of having an underwater seastead is one that has been thought of many times.

Hydroponics is being used for growing all kinds of plants. I haven't heard of growing broccoli or cauliflower with it. However, being on the ocean, seasteading has lots of water and fish, so it might be worth a try.

Most of the time, driving a boat (or submarine if you live in an ocean-bottom seastead) is called piloting the boat (or submarine).

[bits4books]

That's quite an idea you have. We'll need to ask Elwar if something like that is even a remote consideration. A seastead in the form of a courtyard with a castle in it for 5-y-o children.

You should really be more explicit. Most parents would like to be nearby their children. Would the parents have their own seastead? Or would they simply be living upstairs or down?

Parents will violate the principle of non-aggression, collapse your house and drive to home to eat broccoli and cauliflower  

The system under which parents live with regard to their children is different than the way they live with regard to other families.

If you want to sink your seastead, why collapse it? Just drill a few holes in the side of the underwater part. The idea of having an underwater seastead is one that has been thought of many times.

Hydroponics is being used for growing all kinds of plants. I haven't heard of growing broccoli or cauliflower with it. However, being on the ocean, seasteading has lots of water and fish, so it might be worth a try.

Most of the time, driving a boat (or submarine if you live in an ocean-bottom seastead) is called piloting the boat (or submarine).

So that's what happened to that Russian submarine that just sank - it was a libertarian underwater boat!

[BADecker]

That's quite an idea you have. We'll need to ask Elwar if something like that is even a remote consideration. A seastead in the form of a courtyard with a castle in it for 5-y-o children.

You should really be more explicit. Most parents would like to be nearby their children. Would the parents have their own seastead? Or would they simply be living upstairs or down?

Parents will violate the principle of non-aggression, collapse your house and drive to home to eat broccoli and cauliflower  

The system under which parents live with regard to their children is different than the way they live with regard to other families.

If you want to sink your seastead, why collapse it? Just drill a few holes in the side of the underwater part. The idea of having an underwater seastead is one that has been thought of many times.

Hydroponics is being used for growing all kinds of plants. I haven't heard of growing broccoli or cauliflower with it. However, being on the ocean, seasteading has lots of water and fish, so it might be worth a try.

Most of the time, driving a boat (or submarine if you live in an ocean-bottom seastead) is called piloting the boat (or submarine).

So that's what happened to that Russian submarine that just sank - it was a libertarian underwater boat!

You forget that they didn't sink their sub intentionally. They weren't prepared. They weren't libertarian. Nor were they seasteading.

[bits4books]

That's quite an idea you have. We'll need to ask Elwar if something like that is even a remote consideration. A seastead in the form of a courtyard with a castle in it for 5-y-o children.

You should really be more explicit. Most parents would like to be nearby their children. Would the parents have their own seastead? Or would they simply be living upstairs or down?

Parents will violate the principle of non-aggression, collapse your house and drive to home to eat broccoli and cauliflower  

The system under which parents live with regard to their children is different than the way they live with regard to other families.

If you want to sink your seastead, why collapse it? Just drill a few holes in the side of the underwater part. The idea of having an underwater seastead is one that has been thought of many times.

Hydroponics is being used for growing all kinds of plants. I haven't heard of growing broccoli or cauliflower with it. However, being on the ocean, seasteading has lots of water and fish, so it might be worth a try.

Most of the time, driving a boat (or submarine if you live in an ocean-bottom seastead) is called piloting the boat (or submarine).

So that's what happened to that Russian submarine that just sank - it was a libertarian underwater boat!

You forget that they didn't sink their sub intentionally. They weren't prepared. They weren't libertarian. Nor were they seasteading.

This is a joke, nothing more.
The main idea is that any seasteading is a child's dream "here I will build a castle of boards and live in it!!!", but as soon as the hooligans come to destroy it, children run to their parents.