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March 09, 2017, 04:34:35 PM
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Dear community we have a situation and I'm kindly asking your help with it.

About a year ago user known on BCT as dzeros (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1046791.0) sent a phishing link and got access to our BCT account. He then tried to extort money to return it or release our PMs and of course he tried to sign in under my account on BitDice, but failed as the password for BCT was unique. He has left some trash posts and cleaned PMs, then we regained access without paying anything for it, thanks to Quickseller.

Today we figured out that current user blackjack on the new version of BitDice is dzeros, he was blocked from cashouts with the balance of ~38BTC. He confirmed that it was him. So this one is clear.

What's your opinion on how we should proceed with those funds (38BTC). We can confiscate them (and add them to investors bankroll, I do not need his money) as he clearly broke our rules and we are able to do this. However considering that we didn't lose any money to him that's a bit harsh, still, I'm not sure whether we should release or confiscate it as I have concerns about how legit those funds are.

Regards,
Alex.

13 March Update:

We are trying to start a legal case against James Volpe in Australia, consider the fact that some of his actions took place is 2015 it will take some time to gather all required information. I would say a lot of time. Our legal advisers also told me not to disclosed any information which can help James.

BitDice Casino S.L.R. seizes those funds because James broke rules 6 and 19 of BitDice Casino S.L.R. Terms Of Services. We will await AFP resolutions on how we should proceed with those funds, and we would be more than happy to use them to repay his victims.

I can't tell how much time it will take, but I hope we can put him behind the bars, there's enough evidence at least for several felonies. Unfortunately, there's not much I can tell right now, but I will try to keep this community up to date on our progress.

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March 09, 2017, 04:35:48 PM
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Edit March 10 9:32am Server Time: I can no longer login to my account via desktop, though strangely I still can via mobile. My credentials show as "non existent". I'm assuming alex has disabled login or deleted my account.

Posting as alias's: blackjack/dzeros

I am not denying that I am dzeros, I have been playing on bitdice since it's reopening with the assumption that alex knew this in the first place. I have wagered over 350BTC with the site since it's new opening of Version 4, with no issues cashing out or depositing, until now with my peak balance being 38BTC~. Though, I accept alex's decision and I am calling the community to read this post carefully and make a fair decision. I am not hear to cause trouble, I am here to straighten out issues that I have caused in the past due to my own greed. Below is my shortened explanation of the situation.

Around 2-4 years ago in the periods of 2013-2015 myself (and an anonymous accomplice) made a series of investor-based games in which had ran in the structure of HYIP sites. For all of you who do not know what HYIPs are:
"A high-yield investment program (HYIP) is a type of Ponzi scheme, an investment scheme that promises unsustainably high return on investment by paying previous investors with the money invested by new investors. Most of these schemes work from anonymous offshore bases which make them hard to track down."

I want to make it very clear that all of these sites stated in the terms of services that returns were never guaranteed and that loss was highly probable though some people (majority) do not read the ToS despite being indicated clearly on these services to read the ToS before proceeding.

The money made from these websites were mostly gambled, @dzeros was an account I used on BitDice that made 80+ BTC from these site winnings. As well as this @dzeros made around 20k clams on Just-Dice during this 2015 period, again from a 1k clam deposit made from these websites. Both occasions, the BTC was lost back to these websites.

After being accused by @Quickseller of apparently "committing a crime" and information being posted publicly after being tricked into sending my information by another bitcointalk user for a bank deal, an investigation was started on this handle + a number of other handles I have used.

2 years later after earning money purely from gambling and offering services on other forums (proof of this is available if needed) I have earned a fair fortune which is now confiscated by @alex.

Alex's account was in fact phished by myself, NO FINANCES NOR USER INFORMATION WAS ACCESSED. I was using the account to post an explanation since all of my posting privileges were disabled at the time by @theymos. The account was recovered and I was unable to post.

I am willing to compensate all those who were involved in my schemes with part of the funds, based on blockchain evidence I have compiled against the accusations posed against me. I do not believe that @alex nor @bitdice should have the funds in their bankroll since they have never faced any financial loss (besides my winnings on their site) but rather given back to those who were naive enough to not read the terms of service stated in the schemes I ran in those years.

The decision is up to the community. I do not believe that donating back to the bitdice bankroll is a fair conclusion, I do believe that partially refunding those who were involved in these schemes is fair, even though the risks were very clearly stated in all sites (I made sure of this).

Again, proof is available to back all of my statements if wanted.


I also want to reiterate that the funds are legitimate gambling/service earnings and I am more than happy to provide evidence of this from any of my clients from other forums.

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March 09, 2017, 05:25:47 PM
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If it can be deciphered as to who has been defrauded and by how much then IMO the money belongs to his victims.

I am not sure how I feel about the seizing of his assets though. Maybe Australian law enforcement should be contacted and give them an opportunity to serve you with a seizure notice of Volpe's assets.

Out of curiosity, did you hack the account you are using? I don't think you are the original owner of the account.

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If it can be deciphered as to who has been defrauded and by how much then IMO the money belongs to his victims.

I am not sure how I feel about the seizing of his assets though. Maybe Australian law enforcement should be contacted and give them an opportunity to serve you with a seizure notice of Volpe's assets.

Out of curiosity, did you hack the account you are using? I don't think you are the original owner of the account.
No, I bought this account years ago, and I can provide proof of this.

I am more than happy to provide blockchain evidence of my "schemes" that I ran and the amounts that were taken. I want to be very clear that I had all intentions of repaying, as obviously my information being posted publicly is not something I want permanently, or at least without being rectified that I have straightened out the situation, despite that I did in fact state the risks in every one of the schemes that were made.

Quickseller or alex, if you are interested in discussing privately, I'm more than happy to come to an agreement.

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IMO, I don't agree with holding the 38btc that belongs to DZERO,
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March 09, 2017, 06:47:03 PM
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So my take on this is Dzeros phished Alex's BCT account and extorted money to get his BCtalk account back...

He also tried to log in on Alex's bitdice admin account, the reason according to dzeros:

09:55:13blackjackTo post the bitcointalk link to the thread I was preparing, as obviously it would attract a very large amount of attention


Which I still don't understand what it means. I think you used Alex's BCT credential on BitDice to see if you could steal investor funds.

Honestly I think it's super dumb that you'd go back to BD after knowing your history with Alex.

I did ask how much did you extort him for, which you replied ".5 BTC".

If it were just the extortion attempt, I'd say it's unrelated to BD, but you did try to log in to Alex's Bitdice account which is against the TOS.

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So my take on this is Dzeros phished Alex's BCT account and extorted money to get his BCtalk account back...

He also tried to log in on Alex's bitdice admin account, the reason according to dzeros:

09:55:13blackjackTo post the bitcointalk link to the thread I was preparing, as obviously it would attract a very large amount of attention

Which I still don't understand what it means. I think you used Alex's BCT credential on BitDice to see if you could steal investor funds.

Honestly I think it's super dumb that you'd go back to BD after knowing your history with Alex.

I did ask how much did you extort him for, which you replied ".5 BTC".

If it were just the extortion attempt, I'd say it's unrelated to BD, but you did try to log in to Alex's Bitdice account which is against the TOS.

My 0.02 BTC.

Anyone with half a brain will know that casino funds are located minorly server/majorly in a cold wallet. Do you really think I am stupid enough to think that Alex keeps his investor funds in his dice account? Seriously.
Again, I went back to BD with no hiding, nothing more than a different username. I've played on the site since our "confrontation", never used a VPN, never hid who I was, nor did I deny who I was when he confronted me. I have nothing to hide nor have I ever had anything to hide. The fact that now, on the balance I have which is locked, I am suddenly recognized (or alex is suddenly curious who i was in BD3?) as dzeros and now it is all of a sudden a problem after over a year of gameplay, very active in the chat and participate in many of alex's contests and competitions.

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March 09, 2017, 06:54:06 PM
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he won the 38btc fair and squar. so i think alex you should give it back



but alex, i would take 0.5btc from him for the extortion amount he asked for


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March 09, 2017, 06:56:44 PM
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So my take on this is Dzeros phished Alex's BCT account and extorted money to get his BCtalk account back...

He also tried to log in on Alex's bitdice admin account, the reason according to dzeros:

09:55:13blackjackTo post the bitcointalk link to the thread I was preparing, as obviously it would attract a very large amount of attention

Which I still don't understand what it means. I think you used Alex's BCT credential on BitDice to see if you could steal investor funds.

Honestly I think it's super dumb that you'd go back to BD after knowing your history with Alex.

I did ask how much did you extort him for, which you replied ".5 BTC".

If it were just the extortion attempt, I'd say it's unrelated to BD, but you did try to log in to Alex's Bitdice account which is against the TOS.

My 0.02 BTC.

Anyone with half a brain will know that casino funds are located minorly server/majorly in a cold wallet. Do you really think I am stupid enough to think that Alex keeps his investor funds in his dice account? Seriously.

Who said anything about CW? It makes sense to assume he has special admin powers on his admin that controls the hot wallet, among other things.

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So my take on this is Dzeros phished Alex's BCT account and extorted money to get his BCtalk account back...

He also tried to log in on Alex's bitdice admin account, the reason according to dzeros:

09:55:13blackjackTo post the bitcointalk link to the thread I was preparing, as obviously it would attract a very large amount of attention

Which I still don't understand what it means. I think you used Alex's BCT credential on BitDice to see if you could steal investor funds.

Honestly I think it's super dumb that you'd go back to BD after knowing your history with Alex.

I did ask how much did you extort him for, which you replied ".5 BTC".

If it were just the extortion attempt, I'd say it's unrelated to BD, but you did try to log in to Alex's Bitdice account which is against the TOS.

My 0.02 BTC.

Anyone with half a brain will know that casino funds are located minorly server/majorly in a cold wallet. Do you really think I am stupid enough to think that Alex keeps his investor funds in his dice account? Seriously.

Who said anything about CW? It makes sense to assume he has special admin powers on his admin that controls the hot wallet, among other things.
If you knew anything about programming or web developing in general you would know this is the single dumbest security flaw a casino could have. This is a very, very stupid statement. I'm sorry to be rude, though that's the truth. there's no "super powers" when it comes to handling thousands of bitcoins of investor money, especially if someone can easily access that account. 

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All I'm saying is I think you tried to log in on Alex's BD account to steal any sort of funds, not to post your thread on BD to "attract" attention.

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Some insight on "dzeros", some of you also know him as Spoderman or some of the other accounts he had here (over 10 for sure).

He tried hacking BD and successfully hacked Alexe's BCT account.
He tried to gain access to investor funds.
He has ran a multitude of various scams on this forum. From cloud mining to scam coins (20+ for sure if not more)
He has been loaning/scamming this community for years using different identities.

He has lost 100's of BTC gambling (all scammed from users) and scammed at least as much.

What he has been up to lately, i do not know, but his past is the one of a bastard.

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Guys, I want to stress some facts which may not be clear at first.

He not only run the HYIP sites and used money to gamble, but several other scams:

  • He admitted that he used fudns from HYIP to gamble them
  • He used to have scam cloud mining sites
  • He spammed BCT users with phisihng link, I was not the only victim, I've seen numerous accounts on that server he used to accumulate account data. He confirmed in chat that he has colluded with a group of people to make it happen.
  • He says that he just wanted to leave a message, but he extorted money for not releasing personal messages from account, when I got account back all messages have been deleted.
  • He tried to get access to the casino, using stolen credentials, which confirms his intentions were to steal money.

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Some insight on "dzeros", some of you also know him as Spoderman or some of the other accounts he had here (over 10 for sure).

He tried hacking BD and successfully hacked Alexe's BCT account. [A]
He tried to gain access to investor funds.
He has ran a multitude of various scams [C] on this forum. From cloud mining to scam coins (20+ for sure if not more) [D]
He has been loaning/scamming this community for years using different identities. [E]

He has lost 100's of BTC gambling (all scammed from users) and scammed at least as much. [F]


What he has been up to lately, i do not know, but his past is the one of a bastard

A. Yes, I gained access to his bitcointalk account. No, I did not try to hack BitDice nor did I ever have a intention to financially disrupt Alex's casino nor the investors funds.
B. No, I never had any financial damage intention in mind, if I did this situation would be a lot different than what it is.
C. Scams? No. Investor based games? Yes. I stated all risks in these sites VERY CLEARLY in the ToS. I made them for the players since the industry is large. Those who were naive and did not read the ToS is their own fault. I don't control if people read the terms of service or not.
D. Cloud mining scams? No. Investor based games? Yes. Very, Very big difference. Cloud mining sites guarantee returns, Investor based games state all risk of loss to the people who decide to "play the game" or "invest"
E. I have been in this community for a very long time, yes, though majority of my involvement is via HYIPs & gambling, and always has been this way
F. Yes, I have won and lost 100's (maybe even thousands) of BTC, though not only has it been to operate the HYIP, though from the earnings on these HYIPs, as well as combined with my own money. If you read the ToS of all of these games you will see the risks and you will realize that all players know the risks.


Guys, I want to stress some facts which may not be clear at first.

He not only run the HYIP sites and used money to gamble, but several other scams:

  • He admitted that he used fudns from HYIP to gamble them
  • He used to have scam cloud mining sites
  • He spammed BCT users with phisihng link, I was not the only victim, I've seen numerous accounts on that server he used to accumulate account data. He confirmed in chat that he has colluded with a group of people to make it happen.
  • He says that he just wanted to leave a message, but he extorted money for not releasing personal messages from account, when I got account back all messages has been deleted.
  • He tried to get access to the casino, using stolen credentials, which confirms his intentions were to steal money.

1. Yes, that is right, I'm not denying that at all.
2. Cloud mining sites? What the hell is that crap? These games were your classic "doubler" games. Double your money in 100 hours, inspired by CryptoDouble and many other sites. As well as that they were "trading" sites. AGAIN, ALL RISKS WERE STATED IN THE TERMS OF SERVICE, THERE WERE NEVER ANY GUARANTEES OF RETURN.
3. As stated in the chat, the link was created by a group who had it in for quickseller. Since he posted my information publicly, obviously I had a common interest to find out who Quickseller was, since he posted my dox publicly and inflated the amounts apparently "stolen" by HYIPs.
4. I tried to use the account to post the message, I wanted the 0.5BTC to buy an account to post my message since at the time all my accounts were banned/not allowed to post, and there was no way for me to leave a thread that would gain attention. That 0.5BTC was the only way to get a reputable account to post the thread, or alternatively, use your bitcointalk account. I was unable to do neither since how fast your account was recovered. NO FINANCIAL/REPUTATION DAMAGE OCCURRED while I used your account, none what so ever.
5. I tried to access your bitdice account, I did not once attempt to go through any of your servers or look for any of your coins. What would be the point? majority is in cold storage....It's like trying to knock down a brick wall with bear hands? Pointless.  If I had financial intentions I would have gone to a lot more effort than what I did, but like I said, I had done enough damage, why would I dig myself an even bigger hole than I was already in?

The points you are raising are nothing more than attacks and trying to reason for you to keep the funds. notice that they are all about you, and your casino, in which I have never done any financial nor reputation damage.

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Okay, why would you try to access Alex's BitDice account if you weren't gonna try to steal funds?

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Some insight on "dzeros", some of you also know him as Spoderman or some of the other accounts he had here (over 10 for sure).

He tried hacking BD and successfully hacked Alexe's BCT account. [A]
He tried to gain access to investor funds.
He has ran a multitude of various scams [C] on this forum. From cloud mining to scam coins (20+ for sure if not more) [D]
He has been loaning/scamming this community for years using different identities. [E]

He has lost 100's of BTC gambling (all scammed from users) and scammed at least as much. [F]


What he has been up to lately, i do not know, but his past is the one of a bastard

A. Yes, I gained access to his bitcointalk account. No, I did not try to hack BitDice nor did I ever have a intention to financially disrupt Alex's casino nor the investors funds.
B. No, I never had any financial damage intention in mind, if I did this situation would be a lot different than what it is.
C. Scams? No. Investor based games? Yes. I stated all risks in these sites VERY CLEARLY in the ToS. I made them for the players since the industry is large. Those who were naive and did not read the ToS is their own fault. I don't control if people read the terms of service or not.
D. Cloud mining scams? No. Investor based games? Yes. Very, Very big difference. Cloud mining sites guarantee returns, Investor based games state all risk of loss to the people who decide to "play the game" or "invest"
E. I have been in this community for a very long time, yes, though majority of my involvement is via HYIPs & gambling, and always has been this way
F. Yes, I have won and lost 100's (maybe even thousands) of BTC, though not only has it been to operate the HYIP, though from the earnings on these HYIPs, as well as combined with my own money. If you read the ToS of all of these games you will see the risks and you will realize that all players know the risks.


Guys, I want to stress some facts which may not be clear at first.

He not only run the HYIP sites and used money to gamble, but several other scams:

  • He admitted that he used fudns from HYIP to gamble them
  • He used to have scam cloud mining sites
  • He spammed BCT users with phisihng link, I was not the only victim, I've seen numerous accounts on that server he used to accumulate account data. He confirmed in chat that he has colluded with a group of people to make it happen.
  • He says that he just wanted to leave a message, but he extorted money for not releasing personal messages from account, when I got account back all messages has been deleted.
  • He tried to get access to the casino, using stolen credentials, which confirms his intentions were to steal money.

1. Yes, that is right, I'm not denying that at all.
2. Cloud mining sites? What the hell is that crap? These games were your classic "doubler" games. Double your money in 100 hours, inspired by CryptoDouble and many other sites. As well as that they were "trading" sites. AGAIN, ALL RISKS WERE STATED IN THE TERMS OF SERVICE, THERE WERE NEVER ANY GUARANTEES OF RETURN.
3. As stated in the chat, the link was created by a group who had it in for quickseller. Since he posted my information publicly, obviously I had a common interest to find out who Quickseller was, since he posted my dox publicly and inflated the amounts apparently "stolen" by HYIPs.
4. I tried to use the account to post the message, I wanted the 0.5BTC to buy an account to post my message since at the time all my accounts were banned/not allowed to post, and there was no way for me to leave a thread that would gain attention. That 0.5BTC was the only way to get a reputable account to post the thread, or alternatively, use your bitcointalk account. I was unable to do neither since how fast your account was recovered. NO FINANCIAL/REPUTATION DAMAGE OCCURRED while I used your account, none what so ever.
5. I tried to access your bitdice account, I did not once attempt to go through any of your servers or look for any of your coins. What would be the point? majority is in cold storage....It's like trying to knock down a brick wall with bear hands? Pointless.  If I had financial intentions I would have gone to a lot more effort than what I did, but like I said, I had done enough damage, why would I dig myself an even bigger hole than I was already in?

The points you are raising are nothing more than attacks and trying to reason for you to keep the funds. notice that they are all about you, and your casino, in which I have never done any financial nor reputation damage.

What you want us to do is trust your word that your intentions were what you say. Even though you say you assumed Alex wouldn't hold funds nor "special" powers on his BD account, the truth is you couldn't have known this for sure which kinda makes your point baseless. I don't think you tried to access his account for no other reason than to benefit out of it financially in one or another way. For sure there's often something held on Admin accounts though maybe not much and for no other than convenience reasons. I would be able to believe what you say if you didn't try to access his BD account, which you did anyways.
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March 09, 2017, 07:20:56 PM
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What's your opinion on how we should proceed with those funds (38BTC). We can confiscate them (and add them to investors bankroll, I do not need his money) as he clearly broke our rules and we are able to do this. However considering that we didn't lose any money to him that's a bit harsh, still, I'm not sure whether we should release or confiscate it as I have concerns about how legit those funds are.

A player deposited to your site and won, and you're asking whether it's OK to confiscate his winnings or not?

On what grounds would you think that might be OK to do? Are you thinking he cheated in some way?

If he won fairly then I don't see what right you have to take someone else's money.

Perhaps there's more to the story than I'm seeing here. He tried and failed to log in as you on your dice site, OK. I'm sure people try to log in as me all the time. I don't confiscate their money for it though.

I guess if you have proof that he has stolen from people you could feel justified in using his funds to repay his victims, and then return the rest to him. But running an HYIP isn't the same as stealing, especially if the terms of the HYIP were clearly stated up front.

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March 09, 2017, 07:21:21 PM
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Okay, why would you try to access Alex's BitDice account if you weren't gonna try to steal funds?
I have told you time and time again, do I really need to answer you again?

Some insight on "dzeros", some of you also know him as Spoderman or some of the other accounts he had here (over 10 for sure).

He tried hacking BD and successfully hacked Alexe's BCT account. [A]
He tried to gain access to investor funds.
He has ran a multitude of various scams [C] on this forum. From cloud mining to scam coins (20+ for sure if not more) [D]
He has been loaning/scamming this community for years using different identities. [E]

He has lost 100's of BTC gambling (all scammed from users) and scammed at least as much. [F]


What he has been up to lately, i do not know, but his past is the one of a bastard

A. Yes, I gained access to his bitcointalk account. No, I did not try to hack BitDice nor did I ever have a intention to financially disrupt Alex's casino nor the investors funds.
B. No, I never had any financial damage intention in mind, if I did this situation would be a lot different than what it is.
C. Scams? No. Investor based games? Yes. I stated all risks in these sites VERY CLEARLY in the ToS. I made them for the players since the industry is large. Those who were naive and did not read the ToS is their own fault. I don't control if people read the terms of service or not.
D. Cloud mining scams? No. Investor based games? Yes. Very, Very big difference. Cloud mining sites guarantee returns, Investor based games state all risk of loss to the people who decide to "play the game" or "invest"
E. I have been in this community for a very long time, yes, though majority of my involvement is via HYIPs & gambling, and always has been this way
F. Yes, I have won and lost 100's (maybe even thousands) of BTC, though not only has it been to operate the HYIP, though from the earnings on these HYIPs, as well as combined with my own money. If you read the ToS of all of these games you will see the risks and you will realize that all players know the risks.


Guys, I want to stress some facts which may not be clear at first.

He not only run the HYIP sites and used money to gamble, but several other scams:

  • He admitted that he used fudns from HYIP to gamble them
  • He used to have scam cloud mining sites
  • He spammed BCT users with phisihng link, I was not the only victim, I've seen numerous accounts on that server he used to accumulate account data. He confirmed in chat that he has colluded with a group of people to make it happen.
  • He says that he just wanted to leave a message, but he extorted money for not releasing personal messages from account, when I got account back all messages has been deleted.
  • He tried to get access to the casino, using stolen credentials, which confirms his intentions were to steal money.

1. Yes, that is right, I'm not denying that at all.
2. Cloud mining sites? What the hell is that crap? These games were your classic "doubler" games. Double your money in 100 hours, inspired by CryptoDouble and many other sites. As well as that they were "trading" sites. AGAIN, ALL RISKS WERE STATED IN THE TERMS OF SERVICE, THERE WERE NEVER ANY GUARANTEES OF RETURN.
3. As stated in the chat, the link was created by a group who had it in for quickseller. Since he posted my information publicly, obviously I had a common interest to find out who Quickseller was, since he posted my dox publicly and inflated the amounts apparently "stolen" by HYIPs.
4. I tried to use the account to post the message, I wanted the 0.5BTC to buy an account to post my message since at the time all my accounts were banned/not allowed to post, and there was no way for me to leave a thread that would gain attention. That 0.5BTC was the only way to get a reputable account to post the thread, or alternatively, use your bitcointalk account. I was unable to do neither since how fast your account was recovered. NO FINANCIAL/REPUTATION DAMAGE OCCURRED while I used your account, none what so ever.
5. I tried to access your bitdice account, I did not once attempt to go through any of your servers or look for any of your coins. What would be the point? majority is in cold storage....It's like trying to knock down a brick wall with bear hands? Pointless.  If I had financial intentions I would have gone to a lot more effort than what I did, but like I said, I had done enough damage, why would I dig myself an even bigger hole than I was already in?

The points you are raising are nothing more than attacks and trying to reason for you to keep the funds. notice that they are all about you, and your casino, in which I have never done any financial nor reputation damage.

What you want us to do is trust your word that your intentions were what you say. Even though you say you assumed Alex wouldn't hold funds nor "special" powers on his BD account, the truth is you couldn't have known this for sure which kinda makes your point baseless. I don't think you tried to access his account for no other reason than to benefit out of it financially in one or another way. For sure there's often something held on Admin accounts though maybe not much and for no other than convenience reasons. I would be able to believe what you say if you didn't try to access his BD account, which you did anyways.
I have 38BTC locked and in alex's hands, with a public dox against my name, do you really think I am going to sit here and lie and dig my hole deeper? Believe as you wish, I am telling you the exact reasoning behind my actions. It is up to you whether you believe it or not. Any idiot knows funds are in server wallets/cold storage, and not in site accounts (besides gamblers of course).

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What's your opinion on how we should proceed with those funds (38BTC). We can confiscate them (and add them to investors bankroll, I do not need his money) as he clearly broke our rules and we are able to do this. However considering that we didn't lose any money to him that's a bit harsh, still, I'm not sure whether we should release or confiscate it as I have concerns about how legit those funds are.

A player deposited to your site and won, and you're asking whether it's OK to confiscate his winnings or not?

On what grounds would you think that might be OK to do? Are you thinking he cheated in some way?

If he won fairly then I don't see what right you have to take someone else's money.

Perhaps there's more to the story than I'm seeing here. He tried and failed to log in as you on your dice site, OK. I'm sure people try to log in as me all the time. I don't confiscate their money for it though.

I guess if you have proof that he has stolen from people you could feel justified in using his funds to repay his victims, and then return the rest to him. But running an HYIP isn't the same as stealing, especially if the terms of the HYIP were clearly stated up front.
The reason behind this is because I accessed his BitcoinTalk account, that is his reasoning behind freezing the funds. I do not believe that the HYIPs have anything to do with his decision but rather a mere another addition to his justification as to why he's frozen the funds.

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March 09, 2017, 07:30:17 PM
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dooglus has spoken.


glad we got this resolved.....

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