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November 05, 2013, 08:06:12 AM
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I know about the basics...but bad gambling sites, exchanges anything will help, thanks

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November 05, 2013, 08:44:56 AM
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You pretty much have to do your research, there are a LOT...

Here are some good sites to research:

http://bitcoinscammers.com/

http://www.coinjabber.com/currency/bitcoin

http://usebitcoins.info/

I'm trying to get payment proof on as many sites as possible.. Smiley
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November 05, 2013, 09:58:04 AM
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Before trusting anything you should search this forum, especially the Scam accusations sub forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 .

If it's a scam it has most likely been talked about here before.

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November 05, 2013, 10:13:48 AM
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I know about the basics...but bad gambling sites, exchanges anything will help, thanks

MT Gox
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It's easier to ask what companies can be trusted since the number of them is much less.
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November 05, 2013, 10:20:45 AM
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I know about the basics...but bad gambling sites, exchanges anything will help, thanks

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Thanks for sharing, I guess those 2 are the biggest scam on earth for Bitcoin, what about Labcoin.....
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November 05, 2013, 10:28:05 AM
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newbies should probably focus on companies that have been proven reliable rather than avoiding companies that have been proven unreliable.

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November 05, 2013, 12:22:37 PM
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is MT Gox a bad one to use???  their exchange rate seems the highest

I see many experienced people on this forum use the exchange rate from MT Gox when they request some kind of trades...

What is the fair market value?  Published rate at BitPay or just look at multiple exchange listings and take something in between?

The price seems a bit higher for the localbitcoin guys

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November 05, 2013, 12:36:02 PM
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The problem with Gox is getting your money out, in terms of delays and charges.

Localbitcoin is usually pretty quick and reliable (in the UK anyway) so that is a more realistic value as to what you can actually get.

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November 05, 2013, 12:36:42 PM
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HashFast
Along with every other mining company.

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November 05, 2013, 12:40:24 PM
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Dang....

You don't recommend HashFast?

Who do you recommend?

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November 05, 2013, 12:42:26 PM
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Dang....

You don't recommend HashFast?

Who do you recommend?

Someone with hardware ready to ship.

Hashfast promised to ship by the end of october, but now screwed up everyone.

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Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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November 05, 2013, 12:47:16 PM
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The odds at a casino are usually much better than a pre-order.

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November 05, 2013, 02:12:18 PM
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Dang....

You don't recommend HashFast?

Who do you recommend?

Someone with hardware ready to ship.

Hashfast promised to ship by the end of october, but now screwed up everyone.

You are correct on HashFast. I contacted HashFast for the shipment date several weeks ago. Then, I recently asked them again for the updated shipment date, which has changed. They won't tell me why - but I suspect it's related to ASIC issues.

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November 05, 2013, 02:17:37 PM
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Dang....

You don't recommend HashFast?

Who do you recommend?

Someone with hardware ready to ship.

Hashfast promised to ship by the end of october, but now screwed up everyone.

Yup, they promised to ship by the end of october but their policy said latest by 31 december... So I guess they will just try to meet that deadline instead...
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November 05, 2013, 04:52:29 PM
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Hi all,
Whats the best website for bitcoin exchange. I have read on this forum that Mt.gox isn't very trust worthy.
How does the selling of Bitcoins work, can you sell instantly like stock, or do you have to find a buyer manually? Can you easily buy on low and sell on high? EG it went from 240 -250 about three times today.
Perhaps I'm a bit late jumping on the band wagon but I'm very interested.
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November 05, 2013, 04:53:55 PM
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Bitstamp if you are in the EU.

My anger against what is wrong in the Bitcoin community is productive:
Bitcointa.lk - Replace "Bitcointalk.org" with "Bitcointa.lk" in this url to see how this page looks like on a proper forum (Announcement Thread)
Hashfast.org - Wiki for screwed customers
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November 05, 2013, 05:06:24 PM
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I've had good experiences so far with " Coinex " and " Cryptsy " have added coins, gotten payouts on coins to my wallet or another exchange, an coinex has mining pools for those who jump around to most valuable coin to trade with.

Not sure about the others, I do know Mt Gox raised flags since it's almost always having the highest bitcoin value of all exchanges, that's just a red flag to stay away, any site that needs to promote via false inflated values needs to be avoided like the plague.

As for scams,

Gambling as from what I've seen is more set up than vegas, in other words you'd be more profitable playing the state lottery every day, pick 5 or pick 3 n 4 mid days, there is always Keno.

Just remember, TRUST NO ONE. It isn't the X files, but has just as many creeps. Smiley
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November 05, 2013, 05:30:01 PM
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This is useful. I'm pretty new to the whole business and don't want to get scammed. Thanks everyone!
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