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June 17, 2011, 06:29:09 AM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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June 17, 2011, 10:00:19 AM
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June 17, 2011, 11:17:04 AM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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Thanks for the warning and the link to this *cough* software.

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June 17, 2011, 11:49:05 AM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

Nefario
Thanks for the warning and the link to this *cough* software.


Why whats wrong with this?

It's OpenSource, fairly well know, a well know domain, from a fairly well known user (me), whats the problem?

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June 17, 2011, 12:42:14 PM
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Why whats wrong with this?

It's OpenSource, fairly well know, a well know domain, from a fairly well known user (me), whats the problem?
I didn't notice it was a sticky until I made the post.
Then after I noticed it was a stick, I looked at who posted it.

You have to admit it's a bit ironic. Cheesy

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June 17, 2011, 01:02:22 PM
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Why whats wrong with this?

It's OpenSource, fairly well know, a well know domain, from a fairly well known user (me), whats the problem?
I didn't notice it was a sticky until I made the post.
Then after I noticed it was a stick, I looked at who posted it.

You have to admit it's a bit ironic. Cheesy

What that I'm say "be careful what you download it could be a virus, download this to protect"? I've no idea what you're talking about  Tongue

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June 17, 2011, 01:05:47 PM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Yeah, I know about the messages in the middle.
My eyes skip over a lot of words sometimes.

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June 17, 2011, 03:03:33 PM
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Is the trojan only for Windows or need the rest of us be scared too? Embarrassed

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June 17, 2011, 03:11:21 PM
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If you're so paranoid about external links to encryption software then use the windows file encryption option.  If you're using Windows ofcourse....   Wink

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June 17, 2011, 03:30:53 PM
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Use 7-zip is easiest, AES-256 encryption

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June 18, 2011, 11:47:27 AM
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You don't need to encrypt your wallet. You can just move your bitcoin data folder usually located in %appdata% to another location, and edit the bitcoin client shortcut's target from:

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June 18, 2011, 01:03:28 PM
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You don't need to encrypt your wallet. You can just move your bitcoin data folder usually located in %appdata% to another location, and edit the bitcoin client shortcut's target from:

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"C:\bitcoin-install-directory"

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"C:\bitcoin-install-directory" -datadir=C:\bitcoin-data-folder
This is an interim solution at best - until the trojans start scanning the whole HD for a wallet.dat. Still much better than doing nothing!
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June 18, 2011, 09:09:42 PM
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I have a solution! Download and install a much more secure operating system its called linux. Did I mention its free too?  Roll Eyes
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June 19, 2011, 12:46:25 AM
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I have a solution! Download and install a much more secure operating system its called linux. Did I mention its free too?  Roll Eyes
Just because it's a different operating system doesn't mean there aren't hackers who don't know how to get the wallet.dat
Always take precaution when downloading / installing / running files.

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June 19, 2011, 12:53:33 AM
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What i do is have my wallet on a dedicated machine that is never used for anything at all!, Encrypted partitions don't hurt. But I guess no on e can every really be truly secure! Perhaps transfer your money to a wallet that is never used online! stored in a couple of External drives. Maybe in gmail, a nice strong password in 7zip is VITAL! Operating system doesn't matter, Linux isn't more secure because it's better but because its not as profitable! If 50%+ of the world was on Ubuntu there would be just as much crap on there too!
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June 19, 2011, 12:17:10 PM
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What i do is have my wallet on a dedicated machine that is never used for anything at all!, Encrypted partitions don't hurt. But I guess no on e can every really be truly secure! Perhaps transfer your money to a wallet that is never used online! stored in a couple of External drives. Maybe in gmail, a nice strong password in 7zip is VITAL! Operating system doesn't matter, Linux isn't more secure because it's better but because its not as profitable! If 50%+ of the world was on Ubuntu there would be just as much crap on there too!
Not entirely true. Linux is absolutely more secure by design, and even *if* more than half of the world was using Linux for their desktop machines, it would be considerably harder to write successful hardware for Linux systems than it would be for Windows systems.
I do agree however that a wallet stealer would be just as successful on Linux, seeing as your wallet is stored in your /home directory, and is thus accessible freely by anything you run. A "wallet stealer" really isn't anything more than something that emails/uploads a file in your user directory.

If anything, the wallet needs to be encrypted by default (through the client, and not by third-party software, so that you never need to have an unencrypted copy accessible as is the case with Truecrypt etc).

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June 19, 2011, 01:02:16 PM
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What i do is have my wallet on a dedicated machine that is never used for anything at all!, Encrypted partitions don't hurt. But I guess no on e can every really be truly secure! Perhaps transfer your money to a wallet that is never used online! stored in a couple of External drives. Maybe in gmail, a nice strong password in 7zip is VITAL! Operating system doesn't matter, Linux isn't more secure because it's better but because its not as profitable! If 50%+ of the world was on Ubuntu there would be just as much crap on there too!
Not entirely true. Linux is absolutely more secure by design, and even *if* more than half of the world was using Linux for their desktop machines, it would be considerably harder to write successful hardware for Linux systems than it would be for Windows systems.
I do agree however that a wallet stealer would be just as successful on Linux, seeing as your wallet is stored in your /home directory, and is thus accessible freely by anything you run. A "wallet stealer" really isn't anything more than something that emails/uploads a file in your user directory.

If anything, the wallet needs to be encrypted by default (through the client, and not by third-party software, so that you never need to have an unencrypted copy accessible as is the case with Truecrypt etc).
I totally agree. Default encryption is really needed. Amazing how such a secure network is so insecure at the client level. Something has to be put in place ASAP.
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June 19, 2011, 07:32:26 PM
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Bitcoin is getting more and more attention. It is getting tested from so many different angles. I hope it can survive all the attacks.

I agree that there needs to be an integrated, encrypted wallet in the base app. Or are there other apps that replace that functionality?
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June 23, 2011, 03:15:22 AM
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I coded a stealer just to see what a detection rate would be. I never released it of course. It was coded in VB.net it is shit anyway XD and obviously very loud and noticeable. I'll learn a real language some day.

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June 23, 2011, 09:08:43 PM
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Different OS doesn't matter that much (I can show you numerous documented security holes in popular Linux distros). What matters is how you care about your data being vulnerable. If you leave your wallet full of money in a car on the street, it doesn't really matter that much if it's an expensive Mercedes or a cheap Fiat: it may be stolen just by breaking the car's glass.

However, there are some uses for lowering the probability of getting hacked. For example, as an additional security measure, one could use a standalone laptop with a totally different OS and CPU (say, PowerBook with a PowerPC CP)U, so that email trojans which use Windows's software vulnerabilities won't work, plus no x86 code won't work because it's a PPC CPU.

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January 06, 2012, 06:03:36 AM
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I have a solution! Download and install a much more secure operating system its called linux. Did I mention its free too?  Roll Eyes
Just because it's a different operating system doesn't mean there aren't hackers who don't know how to get the wallet.dat
Always take precaution when downloading / installing / running files.

you are clearly no unix-user..

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I have a solution! Download and install a much more secure operating system its called linux. Did I mention its free too?  Roll Eyes
Just because it's a different operating system doesn't mean there aren't hackers who don't know how to get the wallet.dat
Always take precaution when downloading / installing / running files.

you are clearly no unix-user..

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January 07, 2012, 04:18:21 AM
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dude..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware

3 reasons:

1. open source - everyone can search for possible bugs, vulnerabilities and patch them nearly immidiatelly
2. much better user/rights management
3. there are far to much different distributions

IF there was a walletstealer-trojan which affects up-to-date ubuntu, example given, that would probably hit the GNU/Linux community like a napalm bomb - while nobody cares if there are trojans for mac or windows - cause everybody is used to them.

get over it: your chances of getting your wallet.dat stolen are much lower if you use GNU/Linux, especially if you use a widespread distribution like Ubuntu, Mint or Fedora.
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dude..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_malware

3 reasons:

1. open source - everyone can search for possible bugs, vulnerabilities and patch them nearly immidiatelly
2. much better user/rights management
3. there are far to much different distributions

IF there was a walletstealer-trojan which affects up-to-date ubuntu, example given, that would probably hit the GNU/Linux community like a napalm bomb - while nobody cares if there are trojans for mac or windows - cause everybody is used to them.

get over it: your chances of getting your wallet.dat stolen are much lower if you use GNU/Linux, especially if you use a widespread distribution like Ubuntu, Mint or Fedora.
1) How many people do you know who can patch their own OS?
2) How many people do you know who uses the permission management system properly?
3) True, which is why Java is a bitch. Wink

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January 07, 2012, 10:37:29 PM
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Everyone concerned in security should read this, it will blow you really away: http://www.thebitcointrader.com/2011/12/bitcoin-06-will-blow-you-away.html
If this will get true, nobody has to be worried about wallet stealers in future.

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June 24, 2012, 02:24:59 PM
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IF there was a walletstealer-trojan which affects up-to-date ubuntu, example given, that would probably hit the GNU/Linux community like a napalm bomb - while nobody cares if there are trojans for mac or windows - cause everybody is used to them.

The problem isn't with ubuntu, but with other things you might have installed. A buffer overflow attack on apache or something else could get a remote user access to your wallet. There are many rootkits for linux. It's not a virus, but it's still a risk.
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Thanks you never can be to carefull.

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November 14, 2012, 06:35:07 PM
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BTC won't make it very long if this keeps up.

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BTC won't make it very long if this keeps up.

It's nothing to do with Bitcoin itself, it's stupid idiots who fuck up something on their computer and decide to blame what they're using for the problem rather than realising what happened, it's something technology has had to deal with for ages now, human stupidity, if you ever get a lot of Bitcoins the best solution is to clearly store it offline and make sure it is properly backed up. Sorry, you just reminded me of an argument I had with my dad when I was trying to tell him he needed to enter in information for the nameservers on my web host when even a support staff there said we needed to, then when he finally bloody did it, the website was working fine.
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January 12, 2013, 07:19:56 PM
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Use 7-zip is easiest, AES-256 encryption
I already use 7-zip and telling it's great !
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fresh hard drive formatting new os and uptodate anti virus software should be sufficient for a few bitcoins
if you are amassing large numbers then extra precautions would be expected





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February 06, 2013, 05:37:46 PM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.


You have been warned.

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impressive contradiction - this whole post

why should anyone trust "a good reputation" if everything IS an attempt to steal wallets

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April 13, 2013, 08:15:11 AM
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Linux is great for security, no doubts there. Caveat: if you understand it.

Most Linux users only understand a fraction of it correctly. I know that from working with many server people who claim to understand Linux but when you question them about really securing their servers most do not have a clue.

Therefore I don't think advising "normal" people to "download Linux" is really a great solution to securing their bitcoins.

A far quicker method would be to advise them to download wallets that take security seriously.

Encryption of your wallet is a must. The suggestion of simply moving your wallet away from the default location is akin to moving your cash from under your bed to a bed in the spare room. Thieves will look under more than one mattress.

I would also advise against clicking on any link in a forum which says "this will really help you secure your bitcoins". Even the user is "super-trusted" he could have just had his account hacked.
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April 13, 2013, 03:23:40 PM
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I'm using Ubuntu in a virtual machine, and I only use it to run bitcoin-qt, manage my encrypted wallet, and deal with mtgox (and I don't do any of those things elsewhere). The hardest thing I had to do is to figure out how to install bitcoin-qt (and increase the disk space afterwards because I somehow missed that the default 8Gb wouldn't be enough). Am I right to think that's the closest thing in safety to a dedicated computer and/or cold storage? How much money would you feel safe with storing in such a setup?
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Thanks for this info. Looks like you have got to be pretty careful.
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April 22, 2013, 10:49:38 PM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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Thanks for the warning and the link to this *cough* software.
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Why whats wrong with this?

It's OpenSource, fairly well know, a well know domain, from a fairly well known user (me), whats the problem?

No problem, just the fact that a big "SCAMMER" title is below your username...

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April 25, 2013, 01:34:33 PM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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May 05, 2013, 08:15:16 PM
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I hardly keep any value in wallet no more than few dollars because I'm just starting out. I plan on encrypting it and such if I ever get a large amount in there, but if I'm just starting out, is it necessary that I encrypt my wallet, or is the hassle not worth the potential reward. What do you recommend?
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May 16, 2013, 12:29:34 AM
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I want some to try and hack my paper wallet. Grin
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May 31, 2013, 06:07:13 PM
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Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You first told us this. And then...


send us a link !!

Very clever huh
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Nice - 2 "hero" members who are now labeled scammers.  Best tread carefully with clicking on links in these forums.   Tongue

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Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You first told us this. And then...


send us a link !!

Very clever huh
That was hilarious.
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June 16, 2013, 06:02:42 AM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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A scam reported by a scammer.... who post links....

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Jep, very cool thread.  Grin

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September 07, 2013, 03:09:23 PM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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I don't get it why just encrypting my wallet is not enough?

Anyway never store unencrypted versions of your wallet...
It would be the same as storing an unencrypted video of you having sex with your girlfriend and an encrypted one at the same place!

I don't trust any of your links due to you being scammer tagged....
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September 18, 2013, 08:24:04 PM
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seems legit - why is this a sticky?
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I give him - 2 points for stupidity, but +1 for boldness and +1 for making me interested enough to post this. All in all, I broke even.

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Even so, won't it be detected by mainstream anti viruses already?  Undecided

A scam reported by a scammer.... who post links....

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November 08, 2013, 11:17:20 AM
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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Are you asking us to download your trojan instead???

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Thanks for the heads-up Nefario I'm downloading and encrypting as I type this to protect my hard-earned coins! Smiley

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November 28, 2013, 11:29:48 PM
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Also: May I ask why the original poster has a large red "SCAMMER" warning, in his profile?  Grin That definitely made my day.

that's why: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=115669.0
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December 05, 2013, 09:48:03 AM
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Even so, won't it be detected by mainstream anti viruses already?  Undecided

Not if the program was developed from scratch for this particular purpose (which is likely), and the developer is talented.
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Good tip!Thanks!

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Damn that is crazy! You think it'll get into an encrypted mac with an encrypted wallet?
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December 21, 2013, 07:51:16 PM
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You don't need to encrypt your wallet. You can just move your bitcoin data folder usually located in %appdata% to another location, and edit the bitcoin client shortcut's target from:

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This is great tip. Some hac.kers  which uses scanner tools first checks appdata directory actually maybe we should develop to insert a tool in bitcoin software to able to change it.. This will very much help to protect wallet.dat
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December 22, 2013, 03:54:06 AM
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Just use Armory: all digital wallets are encrypted.

If a hacker gets a hold of your digital wallet and it's encrypted with AES256. It will take hackers approximately 1.56 billion years to crack the encrypted password.

I am not even worried.

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December 23, 2013, 12:08:15 AM
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Just use Armory: all digital wallets are encrypted.

If a hacker gets a hold of your digital wallet and it's encrypted with AES256. It will take hackers approximately 1.56 billion years to crack the encrypted password.

I am not even worried.

Why would they bother to try to crack it?  The same malware that steals your wallet will just steal your passphrase next time you use it.  And even if there isn't a passphrase stealer, you're assuming you are anywhere near as good at picking strong passphrases as you think you are (the fact that you say 'password' rather than 'passphrase' is not a good start).

Using Armory is good advice, but if you have a non-trivial balance you should be using cold storage, which is where Armory comes into its own.

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I have a solution! Download and install a much more secure operating system its called linux. Did I mention its free too?  Roll Eyes

brb, writing a trogan designed for linux that steals wallets and will be spread throughout the forum

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(Not really, But you get the picture.)

It's only more secure from obscurity. Otherwise everything's pretty much the same.

(Unless if you have your wallet.dat stored in a folder only root has access to or some non-standard shit like that)

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January 16, 2014, 04:43:42 PM
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What is wrong with people why do they need to scam and steal?

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Whats wrong with people, why do they feel the need to dredge up dead threads?

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Thanks for tips. This is becoming my biggest problem using a pc , ill partition my drive to test run linux os.

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Thanks for the warning. There are many people loosing their btc with so many hacking. It looks like we should save wallet in separate offline computer.

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The security problem isn't from the os ... even if most linux distrib help with package repository where apps are builded from source and signed.

The problem is the ChairKeyboard interface !

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Thanks for tips. This is becoming my biggest problem using a pc , ill partition my drive to test run linux os.

doing the same thing. worth the time.

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February 22, 2014, 04:04:53 AM
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is Mac OS vulnerable as well?

is it common here, that people with trust issues post warnings offering exe files as a remedy?  Huh

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is Mac OS vulnerable as well?

Mac OS and Linux are definitely vulnerable as well - there are cross-platform Java RATs out there, at least one of which has been distributed in this very forum in order to steal people's wallets. You would be crazy to run anything anyone posted here except in a clean virtual machine, really. Even long-time members can have their accounts hijacked and could post a trojan. Antivirus is a crap-shoot, no better than 50% final detection rate of wallet stealers overall, and that number usually starts out in single digits for the first couple of weeks after a new trojan is released.
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is Mac OS vulnerable as well?

Mac OS and Linux are definitely vulnerable as well - there are cross-platform Java RATs out there, at least one of which has been distributed in this very forum in order to steal people's wallets. You would be crazy to run anything anyone posted here except in a clean virtual machine, really. Even long-time members can have their accounts hijacked and could post a trojan. Antivirus is a crap-shoot, no better than 50% final detection rate of wallet stealers overall, and that number usually starts out in single digits for the first couple of weeks after a new trojan is released.
This is about right. Unless the code's really short and you can look at it yourself within a few minutes (and know what it means), at least let a few people test it out for you before thinking about downloading and running it. Cheesy

Think of the computer as you, and you're out in a big city in a shady part of town, and some guy in a Guy Fawkes mask and furry suit comes out and tries giving people some type of liquid in a glass which he says solves some particular problem. You probably wouldn't drink first, and probably not even within a day or so of Fawkes still standing outside filling Solo cups with mystery fluid from a pitcher, and maybe you'd refuse to drink the mystery fluid until its contents can be certified in a lab. That's sorta-kinda what it's like to download software from this forum. Wait as long to download as you'd wait to drink from Fawkes' pitcher, keeping in mind the furry Fawkes of yesterday may not be the same furry Fawkes as today, and you can't be absolutely sure nobody added anything to his pitcher (or the bottom of the Solo cups).

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is Mac OS vulnerable as well?

Mac OS and Linux are definitely vulnerable as well - there are cross-platform Java RATs out there, at least one of which has been distributed in this very forum in order to steal people's wallets. You would be crazy to run anything anyone posted here except in a clean virtual machine, really. Even long-time members can have their accounts hijacked and could post a trojan. Antivirus is a crap-shoot, no better than 50% final detection rate of wallet stealers overall, and that number usually starts out in single digits for the first couple of weeks after a new trojan is released.
This is about right. Unless the code's really short and you can look at it yourself within a few minutes (and know what it means), at least let a few people test it out for you before thinking about downloading and running it. Cheesy

Think of the computer as you, and you're out in a big city in a shady part of town, and some guy in a Guy Fawkes mask and furry suit comes out and tries giving people some type of liquid in a glass which he says solves some particular problem. You probably wouldn't drink first, and probably not even within a day or so of Fawkes still standing outside filling Solo cups with mystery fluid from a pitcher, and maybe you'd refuse to drink the mystery fluid until its contents can be certified in a lab. That's sorta-kinda what it's like to download software from this forum. Wait as long to download as you'd wait to drink from Fawkes' pitcher, keeping in mind the furry Fawkes of yesterday may not be the same furry Fawkes as today, and you can't be absolutely sure nobody added anything to his pitcher (or the bottom of the Solo cups).

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Does virus total detect most virus, & trojans?

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Does virus total detect most virus, & trojans?

Not at first if it's a newly developed family or packer. After a time, you'll get some detection from some of the AV engines used by Virus Total. Of course, the malware author can tweak the file until it's no longer detected, and the game starts all over again.
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What would be the best way to avoid "accidentally" stumbling across a trojan by regular browsing? Any type of anti virus software that is specific to something like this?  Huh

I ask because I've been seeing increased mention of simply clicking a link and it installs a trojan or some other malware. Sorry if this is a noob question.
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What would be the best way to avoid "accidentally" stumbling across a trojan by regular browsing? Any type of anti virus software that is specific to something like this?  Huh

I ask because I've been seeing increased mention of simply clicking a link and it installs a trojan or some other malware. Sorry if this is a noob question.
Avast or Avira are statistically your best bets for catching 0days, which is pretty much all you're going to see in the crypto community. According to Shadowserver's long-term testing, they'll catch right around 73-78% of new and tweaked malware. For the other quarter of the time, even with the best heuristic analysis tools, you're still screwed unless you browse and download very carefully.

ETA: The 73-78% only applies to "all" 0days... 0days you'll find in the crypto community may be more likely to pass through most AV heuristic analysis systems.

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Thanks
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thanks for the warning.

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Is the trojan only for Windows or need the rest of us be scared too? Embarrassed

windows has way to many trojans...
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Great ! Thanks for the warning Smiley
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Where did you find theese trojans please, i am using bitcoin on my computer about 2 years and i dont even have anti virus of any kind
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Use 7-zip is easiest, AES-256 encryption

I use 7-zip also , fast and easy  Smiley

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thanks for the information.
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i'll try to protect again my wallet from stealer.
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thanks for the information.
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i'll try to protect again my wallet from stealer.

Use Paperwallet (with BIB-38)  Smiley

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I got 26 Bitcoin stolen in the past 3 months. NO MORE. I have all my bitcoin on Cryptsy now.
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store offline..
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and maybe the links provided are not very safe also..
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use trucrypt.org

opensource... and VERY efficient.

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i prefer no truecrypt and other programs like this.ive faced in the past decrypt problems..
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April 13, 2014, 01:26:15 PM
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I got 26 Bitcoin stolen in the past 3 months. NO MORE. I have all my bitcoin on Cryptsy now.

That is actually not a good alternative. It's been said so many times before -- if you don't own the private key to the address holding your coins, then you don't own those coins.
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Greetings Thanks for the warning, the info is really helpful and keep us away from the trojan, and take the necessary security steps to keep out wallet and pc's safe, it's getting normal find that kind of virus
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TrueCrypt is excellent. I have a TrueCrypt partition on my laptop and my external hdd is fully encrypted.  This will only protect your wallet when your wallet is not in use and the TrueCrypt volume/file is not decrypted.

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Well I am using Linux for 5 years now and I am neither using a antivirus, neither getting any trojans!
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What wrong with you, man? This software is awful. Your security advice is poor. All you said is just "OR BEWARE OF TROJAN AAA!!!" and then "I have some SOFT to deal your problems with DREADFULL TROJAN".
In your post there is more advertising than information!

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Thank you very much for sharing such a useful and important information with us. keep it up.

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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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Is this thread an exercise in recognition of irony?

You warn us not to install anything linked to on this forum and then in the next line you link to a windows executable?

I don't run windoze so i couldn't install your trojan even if i wanted to but anway, thanks for the laughs.

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I got 26 Bitcoin stolen in the past 3 months. NO MORE. I have all my bitcoin on Cryptsy now.
How that happened ? This is only one stealing or several times?
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Is the trojan only for Windows or need the rest of us be scared too? Embarrassed
In my opinion Ubuntu is safe for everything. Nothing to be afraid of while using Ubuntu.
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Hey thanks for the warning. This is why I try to only download things from the official website. I don't even use GitHub.
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Hey thanks for the warning. This is why I try to only download things from the official website. I don't even use GitHub.
Upss... Dude this website is for sure a Java Drive Bay be carefull...

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Many still do not know about this which is sad when thier wallet just empties

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I encrypted my wallet with in-built option, is it secure?  Roll Eyes Huh

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I encrypted my wallet with in-built option, is it secure?  Roll Eyes Huh

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Not if you have a trojan that spies on your keyboard. When you spend something from the wallet, the trojan will see your passphrase, and then the attacker can potentially spend the rest of your wallet contents.
But a password protected wallet is at least somewhat more secure in that a simple attack reading the wallet file will not suffice.

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If anything, the wallet needs to be encrypted by default
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thank you for the information dude  Smiley

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Thanks for the post
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BTC won't make it very long if this keeps up.

It's nothing to do with Bitcoin itself, it's stupid idiots who fuck up something on their computer and decide to blame what they're using for the problem rather than realising what happened, it's something technology has had to deal with for ages now, human stupidity, if you ever get a lot of Bitcoins the best solution is to clearly store it offline and make sure it is properly backed up. Sorry, you just reminded me of an argument I had with my dad when I was trying to tell him he needed to enter in information for the nameservers on my web host when even a support staff there said we needed to, then when he finally bloody did it, the website was working fine.

Actually, he is absolutely correct about btc not making it. You can condescendingly preach about the stupidity / ignorance of people susceptible to coin stealing malware. Pontificate all you like and continue w/ irrelevant analogies like leaving a wallet on the dashboard of your car. The fact of the matter is you have to use rather inconvenient safeguards to ensure, w/ certainty, your coins are safe. For btc to " make it " it has to be practical, secure and easy for the average Joe layman to use. It is definitely none of those things. The little issue of irreversibility is likewise a deterrent to btc proliferation. So blast away if that boosts your intellectual ego. I think, btc will continue to be relegated to it's current use and form. Perhaps though another digital currency, that nullifies btc issues, will someday go into more mainstream use.
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July 31, 2014, 03:10:57 AM
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The fact of the matter is you have to use rather inconvenient safeguards to ensure, w/ certainty, your coins are safe.
Just like you have to jump through hoops to make sure your cash (whether physical or digital) is safe. I've had my physical wallet stolen twice (once in my house by a plumber, even), and lost once, but I've never had my qt/Core wallet lost or stolen, and I've been using both almost as long, being fairly young. Just to get a bank account in the US, there's a long form to fill out, requiring all sorts of government info and in some cases, a fingerprint or a "vein print." Though SOME forms of cash is supposedly safe from theft in SOME cases, the hassle of recovery is, in a good few instances, more hassle than it's worth. US high schools (including where I went, in the middle of nowhere) actually have personal finance courses to teach teenagers how to use this complex system, from writing checks and securing cash to figuring out the pros and cons of different kinds of bank accounts and figuring out what the Hell TransUnion is. -But people need a bank account because it's what everyone else is using, and like switching from the imperial to metric system, it's a PitA current adults aren't interested in taking so long as the current system can continue limping along (though still a bad long-term plan to go with). -And I STILL don't understand fiat issuance fully (along with a few grads of university Quantitative courses). THAT's a complex system almost impossible to fully wrap your head around.

I'd argue what's really putting "normal" middle-aged people off to Bitcoin is just the worry about screwing something up and losing money because they just aren't very familiar with computer software in general and think this is some type of high-level sorcery only able to be understood by basement-dwelling neckbeards and MIT grads (... assuming a difference Grin) when it's as simple as copy-pasting one string of characters (or clicking a URI), double-checking it to make sure you/it copied the string right, then clicking the button to send it off (and hopefully, entering your password in).

I think it's really just fear of the unfamiliar, and I think that's compounded when we're really paranoid because we don't want them to lose any money on our advice, so we give them really over-the-top security measures we insist they take to keep $300 in BTC secure when they'd almost certainly never run into a security issue using a lite client without any significant changes to their general browsing/use habits. We -- and I'm using "we" really loosely here, because I mean to say "I" and assume most others are paranoid when someone comes to them for advice on what to do with their wealth -- tend to basically tell them the equivalent of keeping 2+ physical wallets for their cash, one they keep on-hand with a trivial amount in but for which they still tether to a hole cut into their body with a key they keep in another compartment of their body they had cut with a waterproof-bag which only opens with your fingerprint, and one which is kept inside mini-safes under a floorboard with a significant amount of cash (or even better, with some buried under floor boards, some kept buried in the backyard, and some stuffed into a tree) with keys kept in bank safeboxes, though you obviously don't want to keep all the keys in the same box or even the same bank -- you want to use different keys, and ideally, you'll use modular key parts, where there are maybe three key parts fit together, and you need any two keys to open one box, where these various key combinations are stored on a hidden, encrypted hard drive partition which uses a n-of-m password you've written down and given to various family members and well-trusted friends to decrypt. -And really, for a casual user with a "casual" amount of cash, the paranoid advice we give is just fucking stupid. Almost nobody keeps tens of thousands of dollars under their mattress, but it's almost like we assume everyone curious about Bitcoin's going to have 100BTC just sitting around on their Android BTC wallet, though maybe this is just from too many people in the past going full-retard and investing tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars into something they just accumulated a cursory understanding of thirty minutes ago because they have some intuitive sense that it's the next big thing because young people are using it. Those people really ought to be waiting until they can just have their EdwardJones agent, or whoever, buy BTC (or a representative fund) for them, and maybe we're just too enthusiastic about BTC to tell them to wait for an established corporation to professionally handle (and insure) their life savings.

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August 03, 2014, 06:41:58 PM
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~~Is good to know~~
~~Thanks for the Info!~~
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August 12, 2014, 05:36:14 PM
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thanks for warning will be careful
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August 13, 2014, 08:37:57 AM
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Thanks for the information and i will be more careful from now on...
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August 15, 2014, 04:50:08 AM
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thanks for help on it.

that's a good warning. we must beware of posibility crime on this forum, like this one. crime is not just want to do it for the reason, but some chance could make it happen.

let's keep our eyes.
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Thank you for this, I put up a hard password so good luck withdrawing bitches.

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August 17, 2014, 01:12:59 AM
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Is the trojan only for Windows or need the rest of us be scared too? Embarrassed
In my opinion Ubuntu is safe for everything. Nothing to be afraid of while using Ubuntu.
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Who the hell told you this? Stop spreading shit that isn't true.

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I recommend having wallet in virtualized computer and try new potentionally dangerous apps on regular pc (or vise versa)
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August 19, 2014, 02:38:08 PM
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Is the trojan only for Windows or need the rest of us be scared too? Embarrassed
In my opinion Ubuntu is safe for everything. Nothing to be afraid of while using Ubuntu.
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Who the hell told you this? Stop spreading shit that isn't true.

Yes, Ubuntu can be attacked too but it is safer than Windows. Sorry for not being clear and about the last line.

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Is the trojan only for Windows or need the rest of us be scared too? Embarrassed
In my opinion Ubuntu is safe for everything. Nothing to be afraid of while using Ubuntu.
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Who the hell told you this? Stop spreading shit that isn't true.

Yes, Ubuntu can be attacked too but it is safer than Windows. Sorry for not being clear and about the last line.

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Much better Smiley yes, it's safer, but of course you have to do your part as well to maintain the security posture. Now in terms of Trojans... I do think compiling from source is better is than installing a freaking executable... But from what I hear, it's pretty easy to hide a line of malicious code in the source files. Guess that's the risk we have to take

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August 27, 2014, 08:02:40 PM
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i lost 6.5btc and 14.5million doge
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I've seperated my btc wallet from alt wallets.
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August 31, 2014, 07:07:40 PM
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u shold never store $$$ on your hard drive, you hard knocks.

Try a brain wallet and use a few clues that you can use to help you remember the brain wallet and store it in several places.  

That is a sure way to ensure that no one will ever steal your money.

my brain wallets are as hard as fort knox.

Here is one  of my brain wallets.  I feel no problem storing my real bit coins in there.

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1LBZcMTRB1Pr9UJQnGTVKcLv6jsDimrD2y

It is as hard as fort knox and it is not stored online or in my hard drive.

If you don't want moey to be stolen, tri using ur brain, dubm fuks.


Different OS doesn't matter that much (I can show you numerous documented security holes in popular Linux distros). What matters is how you care about your data being vulnerable. If you leave your wallet full of money in a car on the street, it doesn't really matter that much if it's an expensive Mercedes or a cheap Fiat: it may be stolen just by breaking the car's glass.

However, there are some uses for lowering the probability of getting hacked. For example, as an additional security measure, one could use a standalone laptop with a totally different OS and CPU (say, PowerBook with a PowerPC CP)U, so that email trojans which use Windows's software vulnerabilities won't work, plus no x86 code won't work because it's a PPC CPU.
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September 08, 2014, 07:59:39 PM
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From a guy that stole bitcoins from other people... not credible...
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Do not download portcoin wallet ,it's Trojan Wallet .
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Default wallet place is in application data folder, to reach maximum safety. move your wallet to another place in your hard drive and don't download thirdparty files to make your wallet secure.
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October 22, 2014, 03:46:56 PM
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i agree to this. So before installing any application or software, always check for feedback about it or do a background research about it.


best hopes to you guys.
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October 29, 2014, 03:22:04 PM
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Christ thats a lot to lose sorry.For the security experts out there whats the safest OS to use possible
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Christ thats a lot to lose sorry.For the security experts out there whats the safest OS to use possible
No OS is safe... Because of the market though (windows has the biggest share in sales) the target of the exploits/viruses is the one that can spread the most. So windows is the most targeted OS. That being said it's a matter of preference really.

 

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checksums and Open PGP.....


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remain cautious. to anticipate,
download anti virus first.

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dont you guys use an antivirus HuhHuhHuh??

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dont you guys use an antivirus HuhHuhHuh??

Antivirus doesn't always help - it's best against widely distributed older viruses, but often would not help against specialized trojans.
Brain 1.0 is the best antivirus against most threats - it just does not work automatically, you need to explicitly use it.

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Thanks for the heads up!
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yes I agree be carefull but you can use anti malware to prevent trojan or roque...roque is a bad trojan, can cut it only roque remover
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thanks...how strong is it? :/ can he beat internet protection?

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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

Nefario

Your so right I will not download this in your link, how do we know its not a wallet stealer like you said.
I might have, had it been from a good rep member.

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oh im shocked with this news, is it real ? trojan virus can steal our wallet?

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hi
i havent see any trojans or other crypto related malware

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April 04, 2015, 05:57:12 AM
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this post is bias now right? or is it still possible?

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this post is bias now right? or is it still possible?

Yes it is possible now too. Almost all things which were possible earlier is possible now too but not all things which are possible now aren't possible earlier. Hope you understand! Smiley

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Thanks for the warning  I will definitely be more careful when I download something in the future.

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just one or more again, i hope you can give more information about trojan wallets seems like this  Cool
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hows that even possible, well, thank you for the warning
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The world full with scums, thank for the tips by the way  
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i thank you for the information you provided. trojan is a non self replicating malware and it can cause a serious damage to our wallets.
it is better for the members to use a wallet with high security.
online wallets are much of danger to the users . so , it is better to use an offline wallet.
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trojans and malwares are found everywhere these days.
it attacks the devices causing serious threats.
anyways , thank you for letting us know about the trojans.
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Thanks for the information.
We should provide high security to our wallet as Trojan can cause that to it.

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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

Nefario

Thankyou!!!
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It thread was created on June 17, 2011.  So maybe with a good antivirus is enough,anyway, better dont run it app.........

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It thread was created on June 17, 2011.  So maybe with a good antivirus is enough,anyway, better dont run it app.........

Yes, the thread is old, but the threat (could not resist the pun) is fresh as ever.
Wallet stealers can be dangerous because they might be less frequent "in the wild" so antivirus companies don't develop signatures against them, and AV programs don't recognize them as malware.

Best advice is to avoid running any software of somewhat questionable origin on a Windows machine when you have an active wallet on the same machine.

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It thread was created on June 17, 2011.  So maybe with a good antivirus is enough,anyway, better dont run it app.........

Yes, the thread is old, but the threat (could not resist the pun) is fresh as ever.
Wallet stealers can be dangerous because they might be less frequent "in the wild" so antivirus companies don't develop signatures against them, and AV programs don't recognize them as malware.

Best advice is to avoid running any software of somewhat questionable origin on a Windows machine when you have an active wallet on the same machine.

Onkel Paul

100% Agree, besides alway use a  protected wallet  with password and do backups on usb devices..........

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thanks for warning ..
try secure my wallet by using even more strong password  ... will be careful while in my all downloads ..
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I did not realize that the trojan could also enter the wallet, thanks for the tip
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thanks for your info,,,but if there are any antivirus that can prevent the trojan ?
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Is the trojan stealer primarily target offline wallet or online wallet?

Thank you.
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We all now that wallet stealers are out there, but this post a sticky "WHY"  anything to download here is gone, I run it through my virus detector the first time I posted here about it.... suspicious was the result I was look looking for the download again to run it under a different detecter.

I actually have a link for a wallet stealer I reported it to Zendesk it goes something like this...

Your Blockchain account needs to be verified.
 
We will reset the chains from your wallet. If you have funds please verify you account and your wallet don't will be erased. We don't are responsible if you lose your funds for not make the verification. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Best Regards.
 
Start the verification process here

I keep these type of mails so I can IP track the mofos

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Also this one I reported.

 

Aug 7, 08:14

What follows is a hack mail to me, I gathered some information about it, I attached the e-mail for your security to look at.
Regards

Received: from server44.zamahost.com ([170.178.182.194]) by COL004-MC4F24.hotmail.com over TLS secured channel with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.5.7601.23008); Fri, 7 Aug 2015 04:42:07 -0700
Received: from globalfx by server44.zamahost.com with local (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from <globalfx@server44.zamahost.com>) id 1ZNg2H-002QDF-8v forREDACTED@outlook.com; Fri, 07 Aug 2015 17:12:05 +0530

The source IP address is 170.178.182.194.
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Country United States
State/Region NV
City Las Vegas
Latitude 36.0768
Longitude -115.0891
Area Code 702

Whois:
The IP address 170.178.182.194 appears to have been assigned by the American Registry for Internet Numbers (ARIN). ARIN is the Regional Internet Registry (RIR) for the United States, Canada, and several islands in the Caribbean Sea and North Atlantic Ocean.

For details, see the additional information about IP address 170.178.182.194 at ARIN

http://whois.arin.net/rest/ip/170.178.182.194

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Here is another thing I done for my bitcoin loving family.

I also reported this to blockchain



Something else for you to investigate.


From: Steal Peoples Bitcoin Wallets
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2015 12:52 AM
To: REDACTED@outlook.com
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Want to make some fast money using Bitcoin?

Why not Steal other peoples valuable wallets?

You can do just that with the following code.

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Only priced at 1.5 BTC, Usually 5 BTC, You can send the code to anyone and it will upload their wallets to an FTP server of your choice.
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Jade (Blockchain)

 

Hello,

This is definitely a scam email - DO NOT click on any of the links. Blockchain.info will never ask for your passwords or private account information via email. Thanks for bringing this to our attention. We can initiate a takedown of phishing sites like this with the URL, but again, be sure to *never* click on it.

Thank you.

But I do take the risk to get the real IP of the sender.

I ddos the fucker  Cheesy
 

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So any how this was from ages ago when my wallet got got hacked

This is a follow-up to your previous request #39682 "HACKED WALLET"

Hello

Why can I not send this amount out from my wallet

0.0001235 btc
yet the the last transaction out is of a similar amount ,it was made by the hacker, not me? this is one of his many wallets 1EkF4Ja2ZJXwh1seskMTCgngQiUhuUCfu7
This hacker takes without paying fees

Block chain could not help me regarding this, the hacker could take funds but I could not

This is where blockchain lets you down, they dont even give rewards for reporting these type of scammers /trojans/thieves.

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Thanks for the tip!
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Trojan horse viruses are very dangerous.
If it can affect our wallet then there will be no safety to our bit coins also. Thanks for the tip.

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Its easy to shield your PC against trojans, have a decent antivirus, good firewall, and scan links before clicking it.

Like the OP with -8 negative trust expects us to click those links, maybe he is the one spreading the virus? One of the site is even down, which is strange...?

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Got some blockchain.info phishing mails de last couple of weeks... But Huh ... Wait Undecided ... That email adress is never used on blockchain.info  Roll Eyes

Its easy to shield your PC against trojans, have a decent antivirus, good firewall, and scan links before clicking it.

Like the OP with -8 negative trust expects us to click those links, maybe he is the one spreading the virus? One of the site is even down, which is strange...?
It may look strange but there is nothing to be afraid of in the OP... It's a 4 year old post...

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whether the Trojan can steal all bitcoin we have ?? if that's right, that be so dangerous  Sad
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Got some blockchain.info phishing mails de last couple of weeks... But Huh ... Wait Undecided ... That email adress is never used on blockchain.info  Roll Eyes

Its easy to shield your PC against trojans, have a decent antivirus, good firewall, and scan links before clicking it.

Like the OP with -8 negative trust expects us to click those links, maybe he is the one spreading the virus? One of the site is even down, which is strange...?
It may look strange but there is nothing to be afraid of in the OP... It's a 4 year old post...

I also got a phishing mail, I too have never used the mail on blockchain.
I traced the e-mail, below is where it came from
The first in the list is the ip origin, then it came through the others to me.
I reported and attached the mail to support@blockchain.zendesk.com 
 

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IP Address 37.187.136.15
Location France, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Roubaix
Latitude, Longitude 50.69421, 3.17456 (50°41'39"E   3°10'28"N)
Connection through OVH SAS
Local Time 03 Sep, 2015 07:45 PM (UTC +01:00)
Net Speed T1
Area Code 03
IDD Code 33
ZIP Code 59100
Weather Station Roubaix (FRXX0084)
Mobile Country Code (MCC) -
Mobile Network Code (MNC) -
Carrier Name -
Elevation 31m
Usage Type (DCH) Data Center/Web Hosting/Transit
 



IP Address 198.21.6.174
Location United States, Colorado, Boulder
Latitude, Longitude 40.034107, -105.305454 (40°2'3"W   -105°18'20"N)
Connection through Sendgrid Inc.
Local Time 04 Sep, 2015 12:45 AM (UTC -06:00)
Net Speed T1
Area Code 303
IDD Code 1
ZIP Code 80302
Weather Station Boulder (USCO0038)
Mobile Country Code (MCC) -
Mobile Network Code (MNC) -
Carrier Name -
Elevation 1624m
Usage Type (DCH) Data Center/Web Hosting/Transit
 



IP Address 10.70.132.36
Location Unknown
Latitude, Longitude 0, 0
Connection through Private IP Address LAN
Local Time 03 Sep, 2015 06:45 PM (UTC -)
Net Speed -
Area Code -
IDD Code -
ZIP Code -
Weather Station -
Mobile Country Code (MCC) -
Mobile Network Code (MNC) -
Carrier Name -
Elevation 0m
Usage Type (RSV) Reserved
 



IP Address 10.25.197.212
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Connection through Private IP Address LAN
Local Time 03 Sep, 2015 06:45 PM (UTC -)
Net Speed -
Area Code -
IDD Code -
ZIP Code -
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Good tips
maybe I should pick a good antivirus for my computer  Smiley
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

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Thanks for the warning dude... Otherwise it could have stinked more cryptocurrencies till now....

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whether AVG antivirus can destroy the trojan  Huh
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It would be best if you use trusted & reputable online wallets like xapo, green address or coinbase and stop worrying about your bits getting stolen! This is because those sites are highly secured and can't be hacked so easily! (thinking of hacking them is like planning to hack Google's database Tongue ) Moreover they store your bitcoins in cold wallets where hackers will never be able to reach! And did I forget mentioning that they are free and doesn't take any extra transaction or yearly account fees ?

Still, if you aren't able to fully trust them, then head on to http://bitaddress.org and create more than one paper wallets according to your needs (if you are paranoid, then download their website package from GitHub and create offline)

I think that should be enough not to worry about your wallet.dat getting compromised again.

And if you want to run bitcoin nodes and secure the blockchain by installing Bitcoin core wallet, then consider installing the best Antivirus programs like Norton 360 for extra safety.

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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

Nefario

Encrypting your wallet when not in use is no protection as you have to decrypt to use it. Trojans lie in wait until an unencrypted wallet.dat is found, and some also have keyloggers to steal your password. I have been preaching bitcoin hardware wallets for a year now to encourage using Trezor or Ledger to move private keys off your laptop or phone. Once you have your bitcoin stolen you will become a believer.

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Encrypting your wallet when not in use is no protection as you have to decrypt to use it. Trojans lie in wait until an unencrypted wallet.dat is found, and some also have keyloggers to steal your password. I have been preaching bitcoin hardware wallets for a year now to encourage using Trezor or Ledger to move private keys off your laptop or phone. Once you have your bitcoin stolen you will become a believer.

Harware wallets are also not the ultimate solution, they can protect you against virtual theft but not against physical theft.

If a robber robs you with a gun and sees your hardware wallet he will force you to reveal your pasword. This case will probably be more frequent in the future than virtual trojans sneaking on your PC.

Once criminals learn abotu bitcoin, it will be more frequent than mobile phone thefts.


So hardware wallets may not be the best solution.

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Thanks for the tip!
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There is a (new?) trojan wallet stealer out in the wild ATM.

Plenty of script kiddies and scammers are going to be trying to get you to download and install it, what's more they'll be putting posts to do so (using lies obviously).

Don't install anything linked to on this forum, unless it's been found by someone with a good reputation to be legit. Assume everything is an attempt to steal your wallet.

You should also encrypt your wallet when not in use.
http://www.freeotfe.org/

Here is a portable apps version http://www.freeotfe.org/downloads/FreeOTFEExplorer_3_51.paf.exe

You have been warned.

Nefario

Funny!  So, if I were to click on those links, would it take me to this wallet stealing trojan?  Tricky situation there and also kinda funny.  I guess that I have been warned here.

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Very easy to avoid.
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skids can try and try haha, thanks for the tip
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I just found these links out today. Somebody sent me to my email. (Sorry, I deleted the email soon after viewing it, didn't feel the need to trace it either)

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http://digieuro-altcoin.com/Bitcoin_Software
http://digieuro-altcoin.com/Bitcoin_Wallet

Beware of downloading anything from this site!


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be wary thieves have found a way to change your phone number on google mail to access your email then change password to wallet.I had my computer hacked and the contents of my account at www.cex.io stolen.They contacted cex.io and said i lost my phone and the stupid clowns took the 2FA off and allowed them to change password and stole over a 1000 dollars.CEX.IO is not safe

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wow thanks for the tip , but does this apply to hardware wallet too ?
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We call bitcoin secure and strong?
I don't know every day i'm reading about hackers, viruses, and trojans.
Missing bitcoins, hacked accounts..this is becoming serious!
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Thanks for warning mate. Will be careful.

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Thanks for the warning. It's good to look an eye out for those thieves. There are many scams and you gotta be smart to not fall in one of them.
Viruses and Trojans are also common, the more we share these information the better we can avoid them.

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We call bitcoin secure and strong?
I don't know every day i'm reading about hackers, viruses, and trojans.
Missing bitcoins, hacked accounts..this is becoming serious!

I have also heard of. I protect all good. But I do not know whether it really is that good. But I just hope people stop hacking each other and respect each other.
But that's often not the case.
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Thanks for poiting this out Smiley
I think that my wallet is encrypted by default though Smiley
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Thanks for the warning. It's good to look an eye out for those thieves. There are many scams and you gotta be smart to not fall in one of them.
Viruses and Trojans are also common, the more we share these information the better we can avoid them.
Yeah. You must be really careful and that is most important. You must secure everything.
And that is good. If you secure your coins. Than it will be alright.
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Tnx for waring guys Smiley

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Thanks for this warning be safe out there people it's a dangerous world in cyberspace
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Thanks for the warning mate. Indeed you must be safe and secure your coins otherwise it is all gone.
And that will be not good, because the value is also rising slowly. So be careful.
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I've learned a lot from reading this thread. Great topic.
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Thanks for the pre-caution your thread gave. Thumbs Up!
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We should be careful all the time, new threats are appearing all the time. So, don't keep all your coins in one wallet

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March 18, 2016, 09:36:34 AM
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Thank you so much for the tip. We all have to be careful with Bitcoin because there are indeed many scammers.
And that is really bad. I hope that more people will of course use Bitcoin but they have to be careful.
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March 27, 2016, 09:35:18 AM
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I lived this kind of problem month ago. One bastard stole my coinbase account. I could get it back after one week effort and tens of mail messages with coinbase support service
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Great thread ! ty for warning us  Wink
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Thanks for the info!!! Wink Wink


 
 
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Are the desktop wallets safe ?


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online wallets can be unsafe

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April 19, 2016, 07:25:04 PM
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wow thanks for the tip , but does this apply to hardware wallet too ?

Nice Tips. Also make sure you enable 2FA and keep your password strong and secret. That will be
enough to keep your wallet and sound. Never share your passwords.
I believe hardware wallets and desktop wallets are safe, unless and until you are careless enough to share your private keys / password / access to your wallet with anyone including your friends.

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April 21, 2016, 06:14:14 AM
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Yea let's take tips from the guy with mass neg rating sure sure. That site is clearly a scam. It even has a weird as hell address. Think if you download such a thing you deserve what comes next.

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April 28, 2016, 06:41:41 PM
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Guys something suspicious in my laptop its running slow  and i open the task manager my cpu usage is full and i think my laptop is infected by trojan what should i doo guys  can you help me.. even i scan or full scan using kaspersky never detected any virus on my pc.. guys help i strong believe this is an trojan stealer that i got i think in altcoin wallet.. looks like some altcoin has backdoor script...

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Guys something suspicious in my laptop its running slow  and i open the task manager my cpu usage is full and i think my laptop is infected by trojan what should i doo guys  can you help me.. even i scan or full scan using kaspersky never detected any virus on my pc.. guys help i strong believe this is an trojan stealer that i got i think in altcoin wallet.. looks like some altcoin has backdoor script...

which process is using all the cpu? (look in taskmanager)
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Guys something suspicious in my laptop its running slow  and i open the task manager my cpu usage is full and i think my laptop is infected by trojan what should i doo guys  can you help me.. even i scan or full scan using kaspersky never detected any virus on my pc.. guys help i strong believe this is an trojan stealer that i got i think in altcoin wallet.. looks like some altcoin has backdoor script...

which process is using all the cpu? (look in taskmanager)
svchost.exe has 80% of my cpu used by this can you help how to solve this issue in my laptop?
Im wondering that this is trojan virus or what.. im looking and search solution in google but i cant change the local services.. looks like unable to choose manual instead of automatic..

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May 04, 2016, 06:46:27 AM
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Guys something suspicious in my laptop its running slow  and i open the task manager my cpu usage is full and i think my laptop is infected by trojan what should i doo guys  can you help me.. even i scan or full scan using kaspersky never detected any virus on my pc.. guys help i strong believe this is an trojan stealer that i got i think in altcoin wallet.. looks like some altcoin has backdoor script...

which process is using all the cpu? (look in taskmanager)
svchost.exe has 80% of my cpu used by this can you help how to solve this issue in my laptop?
Im wondering that this is trojan virus or what.. im looking and search solution in google but i cant change the local services.. looks like unable to choose manual instead of automatic..
you should try malware byte, supper strong to clean virus and ad ware, if that is not working try to use kaspersky, its the best antivirus i ever used, its really recommended

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May 11, 2016, 03:57:12 PM
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Guys he got -ve trust hard to believe him
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May 21, 2016, 06:19:31 AM
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wow thanks for the tip , but does this apply to hardware wallet too ?

Nice Tips. Also make sure you enable 2FA and keep your password strong and secret. That will be
enough to keep your wallet and sound. Never share your passwords.