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April 22, 2013, 07:30:28 AM
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I have found that you do not need to use the ancient multicoin-based version of Tenebrix, this more recent version works:

https://github.com/Lolcust/Tenebrix-QT

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April 22, 2013, 07:49:12 AM
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It's dead.

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April 22, 2013, 07:55:12 AM
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It's dead.

What is it? Is that "TRC" ?
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April 22, 2013, 07:55:49 AM
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It's Tenebrix, really really old project with huge premine I think

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April 22, 2013, 07:56:56 AM
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Dead? Not at all, it is simply another of the nice quiet under-the-radar coins that people can mine with CPUs without all the bullies with GPUs and such driving the difficulty out of reach of CPU miners.

It is great when the big miners think a coin is dead, as it puts it back into the reach of small miners so the whole early adopter phase can continue, in some cases maybe even for years.

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April 22, 2013, 08:33:54 AM
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It's dead, period. Unless you can name one service or exchange that accepts TBX.

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April 22, 2013, 08:45:55 AM
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Once an exchange accepts a coin, it gets jumped on and dumped by big miners, and becomes too high difficulty for small miners and CPU miners. So basically an exchange is the end of the early-adopter phase and time for the small miners to go look for some other coin that the large miners still think of as "dead".

Admittedly though maybe using an Open Transactions based exchange could help with this, as GRouPcoin despite being traded on Open Transactions for well over a year now maybe going on two years has nonetheless managed to stay largely "under the radar". Put up a web based exchange for it though and most players (olr the games whose players are most of the user-base currently) will no longer be able to mine them effectively.

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April 22, 2013, 08:55:42 AM
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And my second argument about services?

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April 22, 2013, 09:09:22 AM
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Well in the case of coins used by players of games, you can regard them as one service "you can use them in the game" or as a vast array of services "you can buy anything any player is willing to sell you".

Also of course depending on the scale of play in which you take part you could use the various coins for various hosting-related costs such as paying for hosting of OpenSimulator "regions" representing parts of your in-game holdings, or paying your nation's hosting fees that are based on the amount of territory your nation controls, or paying for special servers your clan or nation uses such as Cyclos servers for your own custom national or clan currency or private Tor or i2p based forums chatrooms or whatever for your clan, all that kind of stuff.

It seems to be fashionable here to ignore all the currencies that started as blockchains but lacked enough miner-interest to afford to stay as blockchains until some day when their transaction volume will permit transaction fees sufficient to attract miners, or until some day when the infrastructure of the games includes lots of ASIC farms, but the figures are quite surprising, see the tables and plots at

http://galaxies.mygamesonline.org/digitalisassets.html

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April 22, 2013, 05:11:50 PM
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I am still getting connections and I am downloading the blockchain now..   Cheesy
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May 12, 2013, 11:10:12 AM
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Maybe such dead coins can be ressurected to the mainstream if we - as community - will think out the right purpose for them first. Maybe they will die again by pump + dump attack as new altcoins, but it can learn us new usage of coin.

Most new alt coins are made just for quick pump + dump so all service they have seen so far (and maybe forever) is usually exchange, forum and gambling site - so nothing gaining them any real value. By "value" i mean purpose.
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July 17, 2013, 05:33:19 AM
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It crashes.

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July 17, 2013, 05:37:51 AM
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The GUI? I admit I haven't even considered trying to compile the GUI, I always use daemons.

Or is it the daemon that is crashing? I haven't had it crash yet in quite a while now of using it.

What operating system and distro etc?

What debug.log and /var/log/messages (or your system's equivalent) clues?

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July 17, 2013, 05:57:53 PM
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The GUI? I admit I haven't even considered trying to compile the GUI, I always use daemons.

Or is it the daemon that is crashing? I haven't had it crash yet in quite a while now of using it.

What operating system and distro etc?

What debug.log and /var/log/messages (or your system's equivalent) clues?

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The GUI. Arch Linux. Apparently it fucked up threading, according to xcb.

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July 17, 2013, 06:06:20 PM
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Oh yeah that happened with DeVCoin too though we thought it was to do with the curl stuff DeVCoin used to go out and get its lists of who to give coins to. Dunno what Tenebrix would have needed that would not be thread-safe and that other coins don't use though.

For DeVCoin we just use the daemon for mining, people who need GUIs probably aren't the geeky techie types likely to get into setting up p2pool to merged mine for them or stuff like that so for DeVCoin the GUI not being able to mine isn't much (if any) of an issue.

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July 18, 2013, 04:49:30 AM
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Oh yeah that happened with DeVCoin too though we thought it was to do with the curl stuff DeVCoin used to go out and get its lists of who to give coins to. Dunno what Tenebrix would have needed that would not be thread-safe and that other coins don't use though.

For DeVCoin we just use the daemon for mining, people who need GUIs probably aren't the geeky techie types likely to get into setting up p2pool to merged mine for them or stuff like that so for DeVCoin the GUI not being able to mine isn't much (if any) of an issue.

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I get 500 Internal Server Error from minerd when trying to mine...

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July 18, 2013, 04:55:50 AM
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Oh well, once Litecoin updates to latest bitcoin code Tenebrix can use that to jump right to latest code.

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July 18, 2013, 05:04:17 AM
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Tenebrix was one of the early cpu coins, had been dormant for a long time together with fairbrix.

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July 18, 2013, 05:05:53 AM
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Tenebrix was one of the early cpu coins, had been dormant for a long time together with fairbrix.

Were either of them ever really totally unmined though? Any time i checked there were always nodes online and the block count had moved. maybe I just did not happen to catch any of the moments when none were online at all?

People thought the same about BBQcoin, so that last year CPU miners had lovely long long time of mining BBQcoin too not just Tenebrix and Fairbrix. Likely the reason BBQcoin came back into the limelight before them was it was using newer code, whereas miners were content not to be in any rush to update the code of the others?

These coins the big miners keep claiming to be "dead" are perfect for small miners. Playing dead has so far seemed to be the most effective way of providing coins only small miners bother to mine.

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July 18, 2013, 05:31:16 AM
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Oh well, once Litecoin updates to latest bitcoin code Tenebrix can use that to jump right to latest code.

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