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April 26, 2017, 04:52:33 PM
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I know this deal is done now but does anyone have a copy of the offering memorandum? It's not on the tokenhub site anymore and I would like to read through it to see if an investment makes sense once the token starts trading.

Feel free to PM me, and happy to pay a few dollars for a copy if there is one.
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April 26, 2017, 05:18:25 PM
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I know this deal is done now but does anyone have a copy of the offering memorandum? It's not on the tokenhub site anymore and I would like to read through it to see if an investment makes sense once the token starts trading.

Feel free to PM me, and happy to pay a few dollars for a copy if there is one.

Reads to me like they got deleting shit down to a science.
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April 26, 2017, 05:26:44 PM
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scam , this is a scam LOL

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April 26, 2017, 05:27:14 PM
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I know this deal is done now but does anyone have a copy of the offering memorandum? It's not on the tokenhub site anymore and I would like to read through it to see if an investment makes sense once the token starts trading.

Feel free to PM me, and happy to pay a few dollars for a copy if there is one.
It works for me. Try this link https://tokenhub.com/memorandum

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April 26, 2017, 05:30:11 PM
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I know this deal is done now but does anyone have a copy of the offering memorandum? It's not on the tokenhub site anymore and I would like to read through it to see if an investment makes sense once the token starts trading.

Feel free to PM me, and happy to pay a few dollars for a copy if there is one.

Reads to me like they got deleting shit down to a science.

It never was available to the public I think, you need to be logged in to view it, it's still there.
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April 26, 2017, 09:02:50 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/ethereum/comments/646e6i/blockchain_capital_is_using_an_ethereum_token_to/dg1ytut/

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ProtectYourMind 2 points 16 days ago

Okay, I'm going to talk about this outside of BCAP.

Let's say you setup a company and decided to start a blockchain. That blockchain will then be sold on the open market and will be valued at some amount. This will create a market cap and a total valuation of the coins.

What you could say is that on a quarterly basis, you're going to value your company based on a 3rd party assessment of your assets. You could then calculate the value of the coin. If the value of the coin drops below the value of the company, they could issue a mandatory buyback of the coins on the market until the market cap equals the NAV (Net Asset Value).

In this way, there is a guaranteed floor on the value of the coin, because the company guarantees a buyback in the market cap falls too low. By the same token, if the price gets too high, the company could release a supply of coins held to lower the value to match their latest valuation. This would put a ceiling and floor on the value of the coin, making it relatively close to the value of the NAV.

Now back to BCAP: this is not what they're doing. There is no guarantee on buybacks, it's 100% at the discretion of the fund. There is nothing but their good spirits you can rely on.

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[–]darvink 1 point 16 days ago

Thanks for this.

I might have missed it but I still don't get how is the coin being tied back to the company? Yes you can say there is a presumed link between the coin and the company, but how do you enforce it?

A simpler analogy (the way I see it), say company A issued 1,000 shares. These shares represent 100% ownerships of company A. If they have excess return they can choose to dividend it out to all shareholders, or decide on a buyback so that the rest of the shares will increase in value - this is because there is a link between the shares and company ownerships.

So technically if the buyback happens until there is only 1 share left, the owner of the share is the owner of the company and its assets.

I don't see that with tokens.

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[–]ProtectYourMind 1 point 16 days ago

Apparently neither of us are smart enough to understand this. That's what I've been trying to figure out for the last two days.

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[–]darvink 1 point 16 days ago

Yeah, this was always the point that I am looking to establish, because we had the same challenge with our project, REIDAO.

We are tokenising real estate and were looking for ways to link the token and the real estate. In the end this is how we do it: the tokens can be claimed back to get the piece of property. Again I don't see this happening with asset management based of offering.

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[–]ProtectYourMind 1 point 16 days ago

Ultimately, all you need is a guarantee of tying some value back to the value of whatever asset you're trying to track.

It's not like the piece of paper that constitutes the deed is magic. it has value because whoever has their name on that paper owns the property and it's backed up by all parties. If you had tokens that basically established ownership, then you would be getting somewhere.

So long as there's some financial guarantee to the asset, it can be worth something.
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April 27, 2017, 07:22:18 AM
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I'm a gambler investor.  I'm treating the BCAP token exactly like a share in a company.  Doesn't necessarily get bought back or more shares released, don't expect the company to manipulate the value to match some kind of asset valuation.  You're appraising its value on what you think the potential of the investments are versus the market price.
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April 27, 2017, 08:14:54 AM
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April 27, 2017, 05:53:24 PM
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scam , this is a scam LOL
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April 27, 2017, 06:16:30 PM
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scam , this is a scam LOL
What now? Smiley

A "scam" with Tim Draper onboard, plenty of big names managing it and investing 500k into ETHCore/Parity. I appreciate the efforts to investigate and do due diligence with any crypto projects but let's not get carried away with those tin foil hats folks. No ICO guarantees profits or that it will be a good investment, it's at your own discretion where to invest, there's plenty of other ICOs or opportunities right now, but calling everything a scam is ridiculous like it usually happens at this forum and is turning it into a cesspool.

It also reminds of the boy who cried wolf tale, all this noise and I've seen a lot of minor projects literally scam 50-200 BTC on this forum while no one paid any attention.
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April 28, 2017, 01:33:56 PM
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Indeed wise words, and guys who need advice from those "scam busters" better stop trading in first place.
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April 29, 2017, 06:19:48 AM
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How much did Blockchain capitial invest in ETHCORE? How many ETHCORE company tokens will Blockchain capitial  get in the future ?
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April 29, 2017, 06:22:01 AM
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Some news:

https://medium.com/zeppelin-blog/blockchain-capital-token-audit-68e882d14f0
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April 29, 2017, 12:56:31 PM
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How much did Blockchain capitial invest in ETHCORE? How many ETHCORE company tokens will Blockchain capitial  get in the future ?

I don't think this deal is about tokens, Parity is a software studio/company, they get revenue when they are hired for consultancy, maintenance, development, etc. Considering blockchain is expanding at a rapid pace and will be everywhere in the next coming years (at least we hope so) these are the investments we want them to do, in actual blockchain business. Not everything will have a token, blockchain is and will be a major business like everything else.

I'm sure there would be a lot of "Blockchain Banks" too for example. Coinbase, Xapo and the like will be used by the average person most likely. Again, these companies could become huge or just get acquired by current giants if blockchain keeps growing. It's the logical thing to do since they are already industry leaders and had been doing this since inception.
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April 29, 2017, 01:50:38 PM
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How much did Blockchain capitial invest in ETHCORE? How many ETHCORE company tokens will Blockchain capitial  get in the future ?

I don't think this deal is about tokens, Parity is a software studio/company, they get revenue when they are hired for consultancy, maintenance, development, etc. Considering blockchain is expanding at a rapid pace and will be everywhere in the next coming years (at least we hope so) these are the investments we want them to do, in actual blockchain business. Not everything will have a token, blockchain is and will be a major business like everything else.

I'm sure there would be a lot of "Blockchain Banks" too for example. Coinbase, Xapo and the like will be used by the average person most likely. Again, these companies could become huge or just get acquired by current giants if blockchain keeps growing. It's the logical thing to do since they are already industry leaders and had been doing this since inception.
ok, I agree your viewpoint.Maybe blockchain capitial will join Parity's Board of Directors, hold a certain ratio stocks of Parity. As we know, in the future, Parity company will start ico for their product "polkdot" tokens, I think blockchain capitial will get some tokens due to its director status.
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April 29, 2017, 03:07:11 PM
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How much did Blockchain capitial invest in ETHCORE? How many ETHCORE company tokens will Blockchain capitial  get in the future ?

I don't think this deal is about tokens, Parity is a software studio/company, they get revenue when they are hired for consultancy, maintenance, development, etc. Considering blockchain is expanding at a rapid pace and will be everywhere in the next coming years (at least we hope so) these are the investments we want them to do, in actual blockchain business. Not everything will have a token, blockchain is and will be a major business like everything else.

I'm sure there would be a lot of "Blockchain Banks" too for example. Coinbase, Xapo and the like will be used by the average person most likely. Again, these companies could become huge or just get acquired by current giants if blockchain keeps growing. It's the logical thing to do since they are already industry leaders and had been doing this since inception.
ok, I agree your viewpoint.Maybe blockchain capitial will join Parity's Board of Directors, hold a certain ratio stocks of Parity. As we know, in the future, Parity company will start ico for their product "polkdot" tokens, I think blockchain capitial will get some tokens due to its director status.

Yes it can be considered an early founder and could receive a good share of the tokens, we don't know if there's such deal. Either way I'm sure they got equity in the company too, that's the appeal of this project. Anyone can get tokens or buy an crypto ETF or Index in the future, but true equity in business is very different. You don't hold just a token or a piece of software (that could still be very valuable indeed), you hold revenue, offices, computers, land, whatever the company owns.
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April 29, 2017, 05:16:56 PM
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When  i can receive my own tokens?

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I have a hunch as to how these ICO are being funded so quickly. Is it possible that hedge fund participates (e.g. common Joe with an 401K et al. at his workplace) are participating in them unbeknownst to them by the managers of hedge funds, they augmenting the scant few from the crypto community, namely this forum where the ICO managers spend most their time after penning press releases which in turn generate quasi-organic news?

Since I know as a fact that my posts are read by 3-LAs, I'm sure they'll now give consideration to this possibility if they haven't already. Your welcome, suits.

Think about it. If a bank could have its employees create over a million bogus accounts, it's nothing for a hedge fund outfit to get its trusted employees to participate in crypto ICOs.


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May 02, 2017, 02:54:51 AM
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Nice.. so another huge ICO, with 0 product right now.

No mention of how BTC funds received will be used.

No mention of how devs and project team will be incentivized to work over the entirety of the roadmap (2 years or more) without receiving all the funds upfront and then leaving the project and pocketing the funds..

Just like every other shit project out there...

This time it's different.
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I would just stay silent at the moment until BCAP updates with more valuable news.

This thread is a 10,000,000$ Thread but no Devs around.

Sarcastic..
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